How Scientology "Grew" to 8 Million Members

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From: Robert Vaughn Young <wri...@eskimo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
Subject: How Scientology "Grew" to 8 Million Members
Date: 21 Aug 1997
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I have seen much speculation on where Scientology representatives get
their figure of "8 million members" or "6 million members." Some wonder if
it is people who have taken courses or who have bought books or perhaps
people who walk in the door. It's none of that. Let me tell you how it
started.

Department 20 has been the section that handles media. It is now called
the Office of Special Affairs but in the early 70s it was called the
Guardian's Office. I worked in the PR section, first in San Francisco and
then at the US offices, 1971-82. We had clipping services for the words
"Scientology" and "L. Ron Hubbard." Other than the PRs scattered about who
would send in clips, that was the only other way to find how we were being
covered.

At that time, we were in a massive anti-FDA campaign, stemming from the
raid on the Washington, DC, organization, over the role/function of the
E-Meter so there was media interest. Inevitably, we were asked how many
members we had and while the local PR might come up with a number for
his/her area, we didn't have a figure for national, let alone
international, and this was noticed at the US office. PRs were giving
random figures and so we had to come up with a stable figure. Nothing was
used to calculate the figure. It was dreamed up as "over one million"
because anything less wouldn't sound good. There was no count of students
or anything. It was simply dreamed up and the figure sent to the PRs to
use when asked. (We also needed it for the publications we were putting
out.)

Then what came into play was the LRH order that Scientology is always
growing. He wrote it in a policy letter, to never admit to anything but
growth. That meant the "one million" had to grow. Again, no calculations
were made. No organizations were asked to submit figures. Perhaps six
months later, we were "1.1 million" and then later "1.25 million" and so
the membership figure began to grow. Occasionally it would produce some
humor, as when a reporter would call the US office and along the way ask
for the membership figure and he/she would be put on hold while someone
asked what the latest one was. "1.5" someone shouted. "No, we used that
one last month, make it 1.6," suggested another. "Why not 1.75," someone
else asked. "Too many digits," someone would call back, "make it 1.8."
"Hey," the original PR would ask, "I've got a reporter here on hold, gimme
a figure!" "Racquel Welch," came a fast reply from someone coming down the
stairs.

Okay, so it wasn't "Saturday Night Live" but that was pretty much how we
treated it. I think we stayed with the 1.5 that time. But it soon moved
up to 2 million and it has climbed ever since.

As to their actual count, it depends on the definition of a "member." But
in the meantime, there have been some good samplings that align to my own
estimation. For example, when orgs were closed and there were massive
phone campaigns ordering everyone to an event in the Greater Los Angeles
area, which has the highest number and concentration of Scientologists in
the world, they could must only a few thousand. At a similar function in
Europe where they demanded turnout, they couldn't even raise 2000. You can
also extrapolate back from some of the "stats" they give. None of it
reflects 8 million "members," unless one is including "body thetans" from
OT 3.*

But this was how it all started and how Scientology "expanded."

Robert Vaughn Young
wri...@eskimo.com

* RTC President Warren McShane is thanked for testifying - with a straight
face - that all that "Xenu" and "body thetans" stuff from OT 3 was NEVER
secret.

Phil Scott

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.
Thanks to Robt Vaughn Young, may he rest in peace, we have
some numbers from the good old days..and his comment that even
then with hard core telephone calling for major 'events' nt
more than 2,000 warm bodies could be coaxed into an LA or EU
event.

Thats what I saw also as a public person in those time frames.
5 or 10,000 really active in those time frames, maybe 100,000
as IAS members but not particularly active. It was not
unusual for an org to have 50 or 100 students in its academy
most nights...now those same orgs have a hand full or less in
most cases. Some orgs, maybe Birmingham has 50. LV orgs maybe
have 12 or so. Stevens creek last year had 35 unless my source
was lying. The SF org has bout 15 staff and 2 or 3 students
as best I can tell.

Flag is down from 700 students warming the chairs in the
academy by my count in 1982... down to 20 by my count when I
was there on both occasions in 1984 (Miscavige took over in
1982).... then up to 56 students in 1986 when I was there for
a few months.

Its in that range now... 30 to 60 students as an educated
guess, probably closer to 60 judging by the recently published
complietion lists. Thats down 90% from 1982 levels.


Due however to the accumulation of OT-7's and 8's the major
event populations have not dropped 90% ...recent events in
England and in LA had 700 to 1500 people approx... as a rough
but high guess Id say 1,000 for this purpose. So the event
stats are off only 50%


Are these thousands recommending scn to their friends and
family though? Are the thousands of WISE businesses
recruiting enough to get the orgs off of rock bottom status?
No.

So the brainwash is dead. Touch assists (which work) done
by VM's and disasters, and the sweat program (sauna's have
always worked) will not revive the brainwash.

What is booming though are the various criminal, govt
infitration, money laundering and espionage programs...those
are going gangbusters to world class levels. The cult, 'ex'
USGO staff is selling the US govt and states Oracles
relational data base software, and IT services which of course
gives scn access to all govt files and data bases, not mention
yours world...world wide.

On the issue of Oracles killer relational data base ap. That
expose and detail has been purged from the web. Before it was
though I read a lot of it, direct from concerned oracle
employees.

It can hack (automatically) almost any other data base in the
world, download the contents in over 500 different languages,
then screen it though 25,000 different screens to produce
files on any person or company or govt.

The CoS is deep inside that disaster, the op on my was done
by Bryan Quigly Oracle employee from Oracles computers...when
I called Oracle Legal, Brenda Woodson (attorney). she ended
up asking Quigley if he had done that and he admitted it (a
felony) Quigley remained as an oracle employee from that
time, fall of 1999 to approx 2004 when he was 'laid off' ( I
got a call from a recuiter who had searched Quigley on the
web and found details of his op against me, he called to fill
me in.).


The Greek govt is quoted in a recent book on Scn as saying
that the US CIA uses cults (not just scn) to infiltrate agents
into a country. France and Germany are aware of that as
well. This is why the CoS is being protected from lawsuits
and criminal prosecution in the US imo. its a CIA asset.

Phil Scott

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JP

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Actually not just your opinion Phil but a documented fact.

See the following from the FAS (Federation of American Scientists)
website:

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/stargate.htm

STAR GATE [Controlled Remote Viewing]
STAR GATE was one of a number of "remote viewing programs" conducted
under a variety of code names, including SUN STREAK, GRILL FLAME, and
CENTER LANE by DIA and INSCOM, and SCANATE by CIA. These efforts were
initiated to assess foreign programs in the field; contract for basic
research into the the phenomenon; and to evaluate controlled remote
viewing as an intelligence tool.

The program consisted of two separate activities. An operational unit
employed remote viewers to train and perform remote viewing
intelligence-gathering. The research program was maintained separately
from the operational unit.

This effort was initiated in response to CIA concerns about reported
Soviets investigations of psychic phenomena. Between 1969 and 1971, US
intelligence sources concluded that the Soviet Union was engaged in
"psychotronic" research. By 1970, it was suggested that the Soviets
were spending approximately 60 million rubles per year on it, and over
300 million by 1975. The money and personnel devoted to Soviet
psychotronics suggested that they had achieved breakthroughs, even
though the matter was considered speculative, controversial and
"fringy."

The initial research program, called SCANATE [scan by coordinate] was
funded by CIA beginning in 1970. Remote viewing research began in 1972
at the Stanford Research Institute [SRI] in Menlo Park, CA. This work
was conducted by Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff, once with the NSA and
at the time a Scientologist. The effort initially focused on a few
"gifted individuals" such as New York artist Ingo Swann, an OT Level
VII Scientologist. Many of the SRI "empaths" were from the Church of
Scientology. Individuals who appeared to show potential were trained
and taught to use talents for "psychic warfare." The minimum accuracy
needed by the clients was said to be 65%, and proponents claim that in
the later stages of the training effort, this accuracy level was "often
consistently exceeded."

GONDOLA WISH was a 1977 Army Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence
(ACSI) Systems Exploitation Detachment (SED) effort to evaluate
potential adversary applications of remote viewing.

Building on GONDOLA WISH, an operational collection project was
formalized under Army intelligence as GRILL FLAME in mid-1978. Located
in buildings 2560 and 2561 at Fort Meade, MD, GRILL FLAME, (INSCOM
"Detachment G") consisted of soldiers and a few civilians who were
believed to possess varying degrees of natural psychic ability. The SRI
research program was integrated into GRILL FLAME in early 1979, and
hundreds of remote viewing experiments were carried out at SRI through
1986.

In 1983 the program was re-designated the INSCOM CENTER LANE Project
(ICLP). Ingo Swann and Harold Puthoff at SRI developed a set of
instructions which theoretically allowed anyone to be trained to
produce accurate, detailed target data. used this new collection
methodology against a wide range of operational and training targets.
The existence of this highly classified program was reported by
columnist Jack Anderson in April 1984.

In 1984 the National Academy of Sciences' National Research Council
evaluated the remote viewing program for the Army Research Institute.
The results were unfavorable.

When Army funding ended in late 1985, the unit was redesignated SUN
STREAK and transferred to DIA's Scientific and Technical Intelligence
Directorate, with the office code DT-S.

Under the auspices of the DIA, the program transitioned to Science
Applications International Corporation [SAIC] in 1991 and was renamed
STAR GATE. The project, changed from a SAP (Special Access Program) to
a LIMDIS (limited dissemination) program, continued with the
participation of Edwin May, who presided over 70% of the total
contractor budget and 85% of the program's data collection.

Over a period of more than two decades some $20 million were spent on
STAR GATE and related activities, with $11 million budgeted from the
mid-1980's to the early 1990s. Over forty personnel served in the
program at various times, including about 23 remote viewers. At its
peak during the mid-1980s the program included as many as seven
full-time viewers and as many analytical and support personnel. Three
psychics were reportedly worked at FT Meade for the CIA from 1990
through July 1995. The psychics were made available to other government
agencies which requested their services.

Participants who apparently demonstrated psychic abilities used at
least three different techniques various times:

* Coordinate Remote Viewing (CRV) - the original SRI-developed
technique in which viewers were asked what they "saw" at specified
geographic coordinates
* Extended Remote Viewing (ERV) - a hybrid relaxation/meditative-based
method
* Written Remote Viewing (WRV) - a hybrid of both channeling and
automatic writing was introduced in 1988, though it proved
controversial and was regarded by some as much less reliable.

By 1995 the program had conducted several hundred intelligence
collection projects involving thousands of remote viewing sessions.
Notable successes were said to be "eight martini" results, so-called
because the remote viewing data were so mind-boggling that everyone has
to go out and drink eight martinis to recover. Reported intelligence
gathering successes included:

* Joe McMoneagle, a retired Special Project Intelligence Officer for
SSPD, SSD, and 902d MI Group, claims to have left Stargate in 1984 with
a Legion of Merit Award for providing information on 150 targets that
were unavailable from other sources.
* In 1974 one remote viewer appeared to have correctly described an
airfield with a large gantry and crane at one end of the field. The
airfield at the given map coordinates was the Soviet nuclear testing
area at Semipalatinsk -- a possible underground nuclear testing site
[PNUTS]. In general, however, most of the receiver's data were
incorrect or could not be evaluated.
* A "remote viewer" was tasked to locate a Soviet Tu-95 bomber which
had crashed somewhere in Africa, which he allegedly did within several
miles of the actual wreckage.
* In September 1979 the National Security Council staff asked about a
Soviet submarine under construction. The remote viewer reported that a
very large, new submarine with 18-20 missile launch tubes and a "large
flat area" at the aft end would be launched in 100 days. Two subs, one
with 24 launch tubes and the other with 20 launch tubes and a large
flat aft deck, were reportedly sighted in 120 days.
* One assignment included locating kidnapped BG James L. Dozier, who
had been kidnapped by the Red Brigades in Italy in 1981. He was freed
by Italian police after 42 days, apparently without help from the
psychics. [according to news reports, Italian police were assisted by
"US State and Defense Department specialists" using electronic
surveillance equipment, an apparent reference to the Special Collection
Service]
* Another assignment included trying to hunt down Gadhafi before the
1986 bombing of Libya, but Gadhafi was not injured in the bombing.
* In February 1988 DIA asked where Marine Corps COL William Higgins was
being held in Lebanon. A remote viwer stated that Higgins was in a
specific building in a specific South Lebanon village, and a released
hostage later said to have claimed that Higgins had probably been in
that building at that time.
* In January 1989 DOD was said to have asked about Libyan chemical
weapons work. A remote viewer reported that ship named either Patua or
Potua would sail from Tripoli to transport chemicals to an eastern
Libyan port. Reportedly, a ship named Batato loaded an undetermined
cargo in Tripoli and brought to an eastern Libyan port.
* Reportedly a remote-viewer "saw" that a KGB colonel caught spying in
South Africa had been smuggling information using a pocket calculator
containing a communications device. It is said that questioniong along
these lines by South African intelligence led the spy to cooperate.
* During the Gulf War remote-viewers were reported to have suggested
the whereabouts of Iraq's Saddam Hussein, though there was never an
independent verification of this finding.
* The unit was tasked to find plutonium in North Korea in 1994,
apparently without notable success.
* Remote viewers were also said to have helped find SCUD missiles and
secret biological and chemical warfare projects, and to have located
and identified the purposes of tunnels and extensive underground
facilities.
The US program was sustained through the support of Sen. Claiborne
Pell, D-R.I., and Rep. Charles Rose, D-N.C., who were convinced of the
program's effectiveness. However, by the early 1990s the program was
plagued by uneven management, poor unit morale, divisiveness within the
organization, poor performance, and few accurate results. The FY 1995
Defense Appropriations bill directed that the program be transferred to
CIA, with CIA instructed to conduct a retrospective review of the
program. In 1995 the American Institutes for Research (AIR) was
contracted by CIA to evaluate the program. Their 29 September 1995
final report was released to the public 28 November 1995. A positive
assessment by statistician Jessica Utts, that a statistically
significant effect had been demonstrated in the laboratory [the
government psychics were said to be accurate about 15 percent of the
time], was offset by a negative one by psychologist Ray Hyman [a
prominent CSICOP psychic debunker]. The final recommendation by AIR was
to terminate the STAR GATE effort. CIA concluded that there was no case
in which ESP had provided data used to guide intelligence operations.

Resources

* Reading the Enemy's Mind : Inside Star Gate--America's Psychic
Espionage Program by Paul Smith, January 2005
* Remote Viewing Instructional Services, Inc.
* Enhancing Human Performance 1988, the National Academy Press
* Cognitive Sciences Laboratory parapsychology research
* Psi Explorer - Project StarGate
* Farsight Institute

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Muldoon

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I would disagree with the idea that the Brainwash is dead. It is
floundering somewhat. It could be revamped - in spite of the Internet
and other factors.

The main point is that the "brainwash" is only part of the over-all L.
Ron Hubbard designed (and self-described) "psycho-political operation."
Even tho Hubbard, informally, called his 1955 Manual, the "Brainwashing
Manual," it included much more than the mere "brainwashing" of the
trusting and fearful membership.

The "Manual" outlines a comprehensive approach to "assert and maintain
domionion over the thoughts and loyalties of individuals, officers,
beureus..." etc. (As you already know, but others might not.)

It includes front groups, infiltration of companies and governments,
covert activities, Intelligence operations. So "psycho-politics"
includes "brianwashing," but is more than merely "brainwashing."

Hubbard's "psycho-political operation" seems to be making inroads, and
in most disturbing areas - as you have noted - notably in gov't
infiltration, and outright partnership - in some cases - with
government or goverment related groups. (This is very disturbing and
dangerous.)

But I do believe the "brainwash" portion will live on - partly because
some poeple WANT TO BELIEVE, and despite all warnings, they'll succumb.


The "brainwash," while essential, need not be widespread. One only
needs a certain number. The rest of the over-all psycho-political
operation - layered and compartmentalized - continues.

Muldoon

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Don't know what's going on with my spell check, and other corrections,
but no changes took, so one more time:

Muldoon wrote:

> I would disagree with the idea that the Brainwash is dead. It is
> floundering somewhat. It could be revamped - in spite of the Internet
> and other factors.
>
> The main point is that the "brainwash" is only part of the over-all L.
> Ron Hubbard designed (and self-described) "psycho-political operation."
> Even tho Hubbard, informally, called his 1955 Manual, the "Brainwashing
> Manual," it included much more than the mere "brainwashing" of the
> trusting and fearful membership.
>
> The "Manual" outlines a comprehensive approach to "assert and maintain

> dominion over the thoughts and loyalties of individuals, officers,
> bureaus..." etc. (As you already know, but others might not.)


>
> It includes front groups, infiltration of companies and governments,
> covert activities, Intelligence operations. So "psycho-politics"

> includes "brainwashing," but is more than merely "brainwashing."


>
> Hubbard's "psycho-political operation" seems to be making inroads, and
> in most disturbing areas - as you have noted - notably in gov't
> infiltration, and outright partnership - in some cases - with

> government or government related groups. (This is very disturbing and


> dangerous.)
>
> But I do believe the "brainwash" portion will live on - partly because

> some people WANT TO BELIEVE, and despite all warnings, they'll succumb.

JP

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There is no evidence that the Brainwashing Manual was written by
Hubbard, unless you have information to the contrary, see following
link:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/psychopolitics.html

The author is apparently Kenneth Goff:

"From May 2, 1936, to October 10, 1939, I was a dues-paying member of
the Communist Party, operating under my own name, Kenneth Goff, and
also the alias John Keats. In 1939, I voluntarily appeared before the
Un-American Activities Committee in Washington, D.C., which was
chairmanned at that time by Martin Dies, and my testimony can be found
in Volume 9 of that year's Congressional Report."

Ibid.

The idea of "Brainwashing" was a term that was invented during the cold
war:

http://www.answers.com/topic/brainwashing

I believe that the book that describes this subject best is In Search
of the Manchurian Candidate, written by John Marks, which is available
on line at:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks.htm

Particularly the following chapter:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm

iTal

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On 5 Sep 2005 14:10:21 -0700, "Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:

>
>Don't know what's going on with my spell check, and other corrections,
>but no changes took, so one more time:
>
>Muldoon wrote:
>
>> I would disagree with the idea that the Brainwash is dead. It is
>> floundering somewhat. It could be revamped - in spite of the Internet
>> and other factors.
>>
>> The main point is that the "brainwash" is only part of the over-all L.
>> Ron Hubbard designed (and self-described) "psycho-political operation."
>> Even tho Hubbard, informally, called his 1955 Manual, the "Brainwashing
>> Manual," it included much more than the mere "brainwashing" of the
>> trusting and fearful membership.
>>
>> The "Manual" outlines a comprehensive approach to "assert and maintain
>> dominion over the thoughts and loyalties of individuals, officers,
>> bureaus..." etc. (As you already know, but others might not.)
>>
>> It includes front groups, infiltration of companies and governments,
>> covert activities, Intelligence operations. So "psycho-politics"
>> includes "brainwashing," but is more than merely "brainwashing."
>>
>> Hubbard's "psycho-political operation" seems to be making inroads, and
>> in most disturbing areas - as you have noted - notably in gov't
>> infiltration, and outright partnership - in some cases - with
>> government or government related groups. (This is very disturbing and
>> dangerous.)
>>
<snip>

While I don't doubt - I mean, it seems obvious that Dn/Scn created a
labrynth structure of corporate entities and front groups and that
they practice the art of 'brainwashing'...

I think it may be incorrect to put forth the notion that LRH authored
the "Brainwashing Manual" or even that his original intentions with
regards to it weren't good. It's my understanding that in or around
1955, 'the church' had been taking a beating in bad PR from
governments of a number of countries. That someone anonymously
delivered a copy of the "Brainwashing Manual" to 'the church' and I
think what was delivered IIRC was actually a german translation of a
manual that was believed to have been originally written in russian.
LRH merely translated the manual into english and distributed it
sparingly as a 'research tool' to help people who might have been
victims of such brainwashing. It was LRH's belief/contention at the
time that maybe governments where employing these brainwashing
techniques and hence that is the reason why they attacked Dn/Scn -
goverments and government agencies where 'afraid' Dn/Scn could undo or
effectively neutralize any brainwashing efforts that where being used.

The HCO bulletins about the brainwashing manual indicate that the only
interest/intention was to use the already existing 'brainwashing
manual' to help those who had been or might be victimized by such!

And, it's quite possible that those where the true inentions and
assumptions of LRH at the time, but of course things eventually went
south and instead of eradicating brainwashing and psychopolitics,
Dn/Scn eventually began to practice them in earnest? What do you
think?

iTal

lissa...@my-deja.com

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iTal wrote:
>
> While I don't doubt - I mean, it seems obvious that Dn/Scn created a
> labrynth structure of corporate entities and front groups and that
> they practice the art of 'brainwashing'...
>

<snip>

Cool tip.

Zinj

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In article <72kph19646d8svdg6...@4ax.com>, I-
T...@sbcglobal.net says...

<snip>

> And, it's quite possible that those where the true inentions and
> assumptions of LRH at the time, but of course things eventually went
> south and instead of eradicating brainwashing and psychopolitics,
> Dn/Scn eventually began to practice them in earnest? What do you
> think?
>
> iTal

Nah. Everything indicates that it was a Hubbbard 'product', although he
may have plagiarized some other texts in part.

"Relevant to the use of coercive persuasion and Scientology, there is a
telling but little known text written by L. Ron Hubbard. This text is
"The Brainwashing manual." The explanation originating from Hubbard was
that in 1955 it was found on the doorstep. Some concerned somebody had
"slipped it under the door of a Scientology org."[organization], L. Ron
Hubbard Jr., in the book "L. Ron Hubbard Messiah or Madman?" states:
"Dad wrote every word of it. Barbara Bryan and my wife typed the
manuscript off his dictation. And then we took it up to New York and
tried to get them to do a program on it with Charles Collingwood at CBS.
Dad also tried to sell it to the F.B.I."

The Brainwashing Manual consisted of, according to the manual's forward,
a transcribed lecture by the dreaded Beria, head of Stalin's secret
police. The lecture was supposedly given to students of psycho politics
at Leningrad university around 1950. It was used as a textbook on how to
wage psychological warfare on Western democracies. This psychological
assault was to be eventually followed by an eventual takeover of the
West. This takeover would be done by first taking over the psychiatric
professions, and the psychiatric and mental health organizations. 2

More important than Hubbard trying to hide his authorship and his
detailed knowledge of brainwashing techniques, the manual reflects
plausible reasons for, and the role of, coercive persuasion in
Scientology. "If you want to see how LRH (L. Ron Hubbard) really worked
things org-wise, from the mid 60's on, you just have to read the
brainwashing manual." L. Ron Hubbard Jr."

Zinj

From: Warrior
Subject: Re: L. Ron Hubbard did not write "Brain washing manual"... and
the delusion of Lisa Ruby...
Date: 4 May 2005 07:30:44 -0700
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>Spacetraveler wrote:
>>
>> This manual is deriving from a guy named Charles Stickley,


This is wrong information. Please cite your source for your claim. The
manual merely says the introduction was written by "Charles Stickley".

>> and it is only published as a Public Service by CoS in 1955
>> (says so on the back of the book as well). What does that
>> mean to you? Be aware that there exist a variety of such
>> 'service' publications!!!!


In article <1115215065....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
RolandRB says... >
>How many authors do you know who use the word "beingness"?
>
>http://www.maths.qmw.ac.uk/~ade/brain-manual.html
>
>CHAPTER III
>
>MAN AS AN ECONOMIC ORGANISM
>
>Man is subject to certain desires and needs which are as
>natural to his beingness as they are to that of any other
>animal.


See also page 9 where Hubbard uses "thinkingness".

"The constitution of Man lends itself easily and thoroughly to certain
and positive regulation from without of all of its functions, including
those of thinkingness, obedience, and loyalty; and these things must be
controlled if a greater State is to ensue."


Zinj

John

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Which makes as much sense as attempting to take over dentistry.

Muldoon

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Sorry. Incorrect. Begin by looking up the observations of John Sanborn
(sometimes spelt Sanborne), consult an imaginary fellow named Charles
Stickley, and simply read the 64 page Manual. When you've had time to
sort thru it - which take a little time -then review your conclusions.
And it's not a bad idea to Google the ARS archives under the above
names, and "Brainwashing Manual."

And by the way, Hubbard's second wife was not a Russian spy named Sara
Komkosadamanaov.

You're in the land of Hubbardian "tall tales." Be patient, read and
ponder. And Happy navigating.

> http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm

JP

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Zinj wrote:
> In article <72kph19646d8svdg6...@4ax.com>, I-
> T...@sbcglobal.net says...
>
> <snip>
>
> > And, it's quite possible that those where the true inentions and
> > assumptions of LRH at the time, but of course things eventually went
> > south and instead of eradicating brainwashing and psychopolitics,
> > Dn/Scn eventually began to practice them in earnest? What do you
> > think?
> >
> > iTal
>
> Nah. Everything indicates that it was a Hubbbard 'product', although he
> may have plagiarized some other texts in part.

Do you have any links or other actual evidence to back up this
assertion?

>
> "Relevant to the use of coercive persuasion and Scientology, there is a
> telling but little known text written by L. Ron Hubbard. This text is
> "The Brainwashing manual." The explanation originating from Hubbard was
> that in 1955 it was found on the doorstep. Some concerned somebody had
> "slipped it under the door of a Scientology org."[organization], L. Ron
> Hubbard Jr., in the book "L. Ron Hubbard Messiah or Madman?" states:
> "Dad wrote every word of it. Barbara Bryan and my wife typed the
> manuscript off his dictation. And then we took it up to New York and
> tried to get them to do a program on it with Charles Collingwood at CBS.
> Dad also tried to sell it to the F.B.I."

I see, so we're merely going to rely on hearsay by his estranged son.

>
> The Brainwashing Manual consisted of, according to the manual's forward,
> a transcribed lecture by the dreaded Beria, head of Stalin's secret
> police. The lecture was supposedly given to students of psycho politics
> at Leningrad university around 1950. It was used as a textbook on how to
> wage psychological warfare on Western democracies. This psychological
> assault was to be eventually followed by an eventual takeover of the
> West. This takeover would be done by first taking over the psychiatric
> professions, and the psychiatric and mental health organizations. 2
>
> More important than Hubbard trying to hide his authorship and his
> detailed knowledge of brainwashing techniques, the manual reflects
> plausible reasons for, and the role of, coercive persuasion in
> Scientology. "If you want to see how LRH (L. Ron Hubbard) really worked
> things org-wise, from the mid 60's on, you just have to read the
> brainwashing manual." L. Ron Hubbard Jr."

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"PSYCHOPOLITICS - the art and
science of asserting and maintain-
ing dominion over the thoughts and
loyalties of individuals, officers,
bureaus, and masses, and the ef-
fecting of the conquest of enemy
nations through "mental healing."

EDITORIAL NOTE

>From May 2, 1936, to October 10, 1939, I was a dues-paying member of
the Communist Party, operating under my own name, Kenneth Goff, and
also the alias John Keats. In 1939, I voluntarily appeared before the
Un-American Activities Committee in Washington, D.C., which was
chairmanned at that time by Martin Dies, and my testimony can be found
in Volume 9 of that year's Congressional Report.

During the period that I was a member of the Communist Party, I
attended their school which was located at 113 E. Wells St., Milwaukee,
Wisconsin, and operated under the name Eugene Debs Labor School. Here
we were trained in all phases of warfare, both psychological and
physical, for the destruction of the Capitalistic society and Christian
civilization. In one portion of our studies we went thoroughly into the
matter of psychopolitics. This was the art of capturing the minds of a
nation through brainwashing and fake mental health -- the subjecting of
whole nations of people to the rule of the Kremlin by capturing their
minds. We were taught that the degradation of the populace is less
inhuman than their destruction by bombs, for to an animal lives only
once, any life is sweeter than death. The end of a war is the control
of a conquered people. If a people can be conquered in the absence of
war, the end of war will have been achieved without the destructions of
war.

During the past few years, I have noted with horror the increase of
psychopolitical warfare upon the American public. First, in the
brainwashing of our boys in Korea, and then in the well financed drive
of mental health propaganda by left-wing pressure groups, wherein many
of our states have passed Bills which can well be used by the enemies
of America to subject to torture and imprisonment, those who preach the
gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and who oppose the menace
of Communism. A clear example of this can be seen in the Lucille Miller
case. In this warfare the Communists have definitely stated: "You must
recruit every agency of the nation marked for slaughter into a foaming
hatred of religious healing."

Another example of the warfare that is being waged can be seen in the
attempt to establish a mental Siberia in Alaska, which wa called for in
the Alaskan Mental Health Bill. A careful study of this Bill will make
you see at once that the land set aside under the allotment could not
be for that small territory, and the Bill within itself establishes
such authority that it could be turned into a prison camp under the
guise of mental health for everyone who raises their voice against
Communism and the hidden government operating in our own nation.

This book was used in underground schools, and contains the address of
Beria to the American students in the Lenin University prior to 1936.
The text in the book in general is from the Communist Manual of
Instructions of Psychopolitical Warfare, and was used in America for
the training of Communist cadre. The only revision in this book is the
summary, which was added by the Communists after the atomic bomb came
into being. In its contents you can see the diabolical plot of the
enemies of Christ and America, as they seek to conquer our nation by
subjecting the minds of our people to their will by various sinister
means.

This manual of the Communist Party should be in the hands of every
loyal American, that they may be alerted to the fact that it is not
always by armies and guns that a nation is conquered.

Kenneth Goff"

Muldoon

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Yes, practically have that stuff memorized. If you read it closely it
becomes funny. It's one of those things. You'll have to take to take
the time to look into it. (See above post)

Long ago, I once believed as you did. I even took "Charles Stickley"
seriously, kind of - until I really looked into it. Suggest withholding
further opinion until some - days worth - of study and dot connecting.

Muldoon

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PLEASE ! Take some time out (days or weeks) and look into this subject
freshly. You'll be glad you did.

Muldoon

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Some more info which may be helpful:

As you look into the subject of 'Brain-washing, A Synthesis of the
Textbook on Psychopolitics," you will find several camps.

1) Scientolgists who have heard of the Manual - usually by reading
about it in Hubbard's multiple conflicting accounts from late 1955 -
and simply believe whatever Hubbard told them. (They usually believe
the 1st - "Charles Stickley" tall tale, but also will refer to tall
tale #2 re. "Paul Fadkeller" Stickley was a Hubbard invention, and
Fadkeller was a real person, but his name was Feldkeller, and he wrote
a book titled 'Psycho-Politik, Zur Demokratisierung' which had nothing
to do with brainwashing. The name was in the Library of Congress card
catelogue in Washington, DC.

2) The Kenneth Goff people who believe Goff wrote the Manual. Consult
the 1956 "Victorian League of Rights" Introduction to their version of
the Manual for greater insight into the sequence of Hubbard/Stickley
and Kenneth Goff.

You will find multiple versions of the Manaual. The original 1955
Manual by "Stickley" uses the word "Dianetics" six times. Also uses
"thinkingness," and "mental image picture," and other Hubbard
phrasings.

The 1956 Goff version. Deletes the "Stickley Note" and inserts his own.
Mentions Dianetics 3 times. Thinkingness, etc. still used. (deletes
reference to Freud, adds "Pentecostal Bible faith healers" in supposed
Beria "Address.")

Victorian League version with Intro by Eric Butler.

1968/69 Scientology re-print which includes the word "Scientology"
seven times and "Dianetics" once.

There is also a 1970s version by Roy Masters that removes the "ness"
from "thinkingness."

In short, it's nice and confusing. Happy hunting.

Suggest simply doing your own research. Don't argue with people. You'll
mostly end up spending time with either the Scn/capt. Bill camp
(Stickley) or the Kenneth Goff people. None have researched the subject
completely, altho the Goff people will have lots of mostly invented
info to cite. Not their fault. It can happen to anyone - and does.

Muldoon

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> catalogue in Washington, DC.

>
> 2) The Kenneth Goff people who believe Goff wrote the Manual. Consult
> the 1956 "Victorian League of Rights" Introduction to their version of
> the Manual for greater insight into the sequence of Hubbard/Stickley
> and Kenneth Goff.
>
> You will find multiple versions of the Manual. The original 1955

> Manual by "Stickley" uses the word "Dianetics" six times. Also uses
> "thinkingness," and "mental image picture," and other Hubbard
> phrasings.
>
> The 1956 Goff version. Deletes the "Stickley Note" and inserts his own.
> Mentions Dianetics 3 times. Thinkingness, etc. still used. (deletes
> reference to Freud, adds "Pentecostal Bible faith healers" in supposed
> Beria "Address.")
>
> Victorian League version with Intro by Eric Butler.
>
> 1968/69 Scientology re-print which includes the word "Scientology"
> seven times and "Dianetics" once.
>
> There is also a 1970s version by Roy Masters that removes the "ness"
> from "thinkingness."
>
> In short, it's nice and confusing. Happy hunting.
>
> Suggest simply doing your own research. Don't argue with people. You'll
> mostly end up spending time with either the Scn/capt. Bill camp
> (Stickley) or the Kenneth Goff people. None have researched the subject
> completely, altho the Goff people will have lots of mostly invented
> info to cite. Not their fault. It can happen to anyone - and does.


More names to check: Anti-communist author Edward Hunter, who wrote the
1951 'Brain-washing in Read China'. His view of the 1955 Manual was
that it was bogus.

The 1955 "Stickley" Editorial Note and the 1968/69 Stickley Editorial
Note are different. ("Scientology" substituted for "Dianetics.")

Another text, 'The Hoaxers - Plain Liars, Fancy Liars, and Damned
Liars', 1970, has a chapter on the "Russian Textbook," although
Kominsky, the author, was not aware of the Hubbard connection.

The original 1955 Hubbard Manual hid the Scientology connection (except
to the membership, and even, then, it was downplayed in early 1956 as
too many were seeing Hubbard as the author - not OK.) Only in the 1960s
- post Goff - was the Manual promoted openly by Scientology - with big
letters on the back cover of the Manual, announcing it as a "Public
Service" !

Again: Consult the Victorian League of Rights 'Textbook on
Psychopolitics' version. The Introduction mentions both "Stickley" and
Goff:

"The material on psychopolitics was first published in America last
year(1955) by a Charles Stickley, who said that he could not reveal the
sources of his material without endangering individuals who had
assisted him. Early this year (1956) Kenneth Goff, former American
Communist, also issued the material in booklet form."

Goff was apparently unaware of the multiple examples of Scientology
lingo contained in "his" Manual.

Muldoon

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See John Sanborn, and many others. This is not even a topic of
discussion, really. The Goff people are true believers as are the
Scientologists (who believe in Hubbard's "Stickley," and in Hubbard's
two other stories.)

By all means feel free to believe that Kenneth Goff wrote a Manual, one
that looks just like the Hubbard 1955 Manual, and contains multiple
Scientology and Dianetic lingo - and did so when? - 1947, or in the
1930s or?

Of course there's an element of reality or truth to it. There were -
and are - Communists. And Hubbard's Manual mimics similar writings. But
he wrote the thing. But, frankly, I'm not interested in converting any
Goff believers.

The Scientologists are enough to deal with - and, really, it's more
important for them to understand the significance of the "Russian
Textbook." It affects them more.

Muldoon

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Muldoon wrote:

> More names to check: Anti-communist author Edward Hunter, who wrote the

> 1951 'Brain-washing in Read _RED_ China'. His view of the 1955 Manual was
> that it was bogus.

I'm going off-line for a bit so I can fix my spell check function.

JP

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Sorry to hear that, if you have a Mac, here's a app you may find
usefull at:

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Word-Processing/SpellTools.shtml

I don't know if there is a free standing version for a PC.

Anyway, it works with any text program.

Now regarding the apocryphal Brain Washing Manual, you are in good
company. It seems the late Jim Kieth came to the same conclusion, as
you have, that Hubbard did indeed, author the text.

Personally, I never truly researched the matter thoughly as you
obviously have and it seemed more likely to me that Goff wrote it, due
to his connections, ie Liberty Lobby, JB etc, but after doing my own
research. I'd like to say I stand corrected.

Muldoon

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JP wrote:
> Muldoon wrote:
> > Muldoon wrote:
> >
> > > More names to check: Anti-communist author Edward Hunter, who wrote the
> > > 1951 'Brain-washing in Read _RED_ China'. His view of the 1955 Manual was
> > > that it was bogus.

...

> Now regarding the apocryphal Brain Washing Manual, you are in good
> company. It seems the late Jim Kieth came to the same conclusion, as
> you have, that Hubbard did indeed, author the text.

Belatedly, as his comments - while still a believer in the Goff
storyline - are what seem to have prevailed on the Net.

As I mentioned earlier, I've mainly encountered the "Stickley:Hubbard"
true believers, who know their Guru and Savior would never lie to them.

Eldonbraun

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That is, I believe, the version I had until I sent it to "Safe" several
years ago along with a batch of old Scientology books I had laying
around. I bought it in the early 1970s, but it did mention Scientology
and Dianetics as the major threat to Iberia's new world order.

But what I found interesting is that the other group mentioned as being
anti-brainwashing was Christian Science. It appeared that Hubbard
wanted to form an alliance or at least an analogy. My impression was
that he thought he might gain some support for his Dianetics
anti-psychiatry campaign from Christian Science. Obviously it didn't
work.

Muldoon

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You probably read version two of the "Charles Stickley Editorial Note."
The one written in 1968 that substituted "Scientology" for "Dianetics."

Anyone on the "inside" of Scientology knew the "Brainwashing Manual"
was bogus and dreamt up by Hubbard, and made to resemble a Communist
psych-warfare/propaganda booklet. But it was justified as a "means to
an end." Plus, it was one of "Ron's ideas," so it was sacred and could
not be criticized.

Zinj

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In article <1126624260.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
bria...@dslextreme.com says...

<snip>

> You probably read version two of the "Charles Stickley Editorial Note."
> The one written in 1968 that substituted "Scientology" for "Dianetics."
>
> Anyone on the "inside" of Scientology knew the "Brainwashing Manual"
> was bogus and dreamt up by Hubbard, and made to resemble a Communist
> psych-warfare/propaganda booklet. But it was justified as a "means to
> an end." Plus, it was one of "Ron's ideas," so it was sacred and could
> not be criticized.

One of the few objectively observable 'recovered abilities' Scientology
has demonstrated is the 'ability' to believe with utter certainty what
one simultaneously knows to be false.

Zinj
--
Villains! I say to you now! Knock off all that Evil!
- The Tick

Muldoon

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To be fair, denial of reality can cut both ways.

Since Scientology, per design, is compartmentalized, and does contain
some positive aspects, a complete description of it would require
reference to something "positive."

And Scientology takes advantage of critics who blanketly denounce it
by, then, simply producing one single item of a "positive" nature.

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