Orumila and Yemaya, Oshun and Oya
Denise Oliver-Velez
was the wife of Orula (Orunmila). and was quoted a patakin which
tells the story of how she divined when he was out of town.
I have friends who have Ochun crowned, and two have the road who is
also listed as the wife of Orunmila, and a very similar patakin is
told about Ochun and her relationship to divining.
I have also been told that there is a patakin in which Oya was the
wife of Orula, but he divorced her because she killed all of his
enemies and people who might become his enemies (so she killed
everyone in town) while he was away.
I am curious about what odu these patakines are related to, if any and
what exactly is the history of Orulas relationships to female Orisha,
and divination.
Denise
Joshua I, Rex
The way I was told in my house Yemallá was the one who divined while Orula
was away. Acheba is the one who breaks plates, right?
But I also heard once in Cuba that Oshún was his wife who divined while
Orula was out of town.
But I think it really was Yemallá who got the caracoles for Santeros.
My mother in Santo is Okute.
Josh
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(Joshua I, Rex) wrote:
>Denise:
>
>The way I was told in my house Yemallá was the one who divined while Orula
>was away. Acheba is the one who breaks plates, right?
>
>But I also heard once in Cuba that Oshún was his wife who divined while
>Orula was out of town.
>
>But I think it really was Yemallá who got the caracoles for Santeros.
>
>My mother in Santo is Okute.
>
>
>Josh
Hi Josh,
Mayalewo is the one who breaks plates to keep away iku. Achaba is
sometimes called "rules and regulations". But some houses have her
sitting in a boat, and others on an Opon Ifa because of the patakin.
My godmother's Yemaya is Okute so I was born from Okute :)
Alafia,
Denise
MarieLaveauHouse
someone offer me some insight to this? I have not been initiated nor have I
received a divination as to my own met tet, but I am a spiritualist and feel
Yemaya quite often; she comes in images and signs, appearing even though I have
not called on her (though since she has come, I make offerings to her). A dear
friend of mine and I experienced surprising tension this past summer--a power
struggle between us for which we both sadly claim guilt and responsibility; our
relationship has since healed however, her met tet is Oya. Our issues divided
us increasingly more so after Yemaya appeared in my life last May. Could there
be a plausible connection?
Blessings and thanks,
Kristine
KnightBlnc
doesn't. Some say Oya fears the head of the ram. Other patakis talk of Oya
cursing the ram for giving her up when she was running from Chango ire. Yet
another pataki states that since the ram gave up its life for Oya while she hid
behind them. Oya then gave up that ram as her food of choice in honor of the
rams sacrifice.
Respectfully,
Manny
OloObatala
OmiJuba
switch-a-roo. I have heard Yemaya (and Eleggua) on several occasion refer to
this and laugh about how they fooled Oya.
-ÓmėJubā
LuckyHoodoo9
Interesting, I was told tht Oya doesn't accept ram or sheep because they
protected her from Chango's wrath. (She hid under their bellies!)
LuckyHoodoo9
KnightBlnc
Denise Oliver-Velez
They do not eat together during ritual. But as for tension - I will
only speak for myself here. I love all the Orisha, and they each have
a special place in my heart and I call on them for different reasons.
I have Oya, though I am crowned Yemaya. She was a powerful health
booster, and I respect very much her energies, her warrior spirit and
her mysteries. My husbands godmother is an elder priestess of Oya,
and she loves and adores Yemaya and says that Yemaya is the one who
takes care of her.
Sometimes tensions with other people are not Orisha generated - but
are "person" generated :)
jes my 2 cents
Denise