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American debacle

By Zbigniew Brzezinski [national security
advisor to President Carter.]
Los Angeles Times, October 9, 2005
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-brzezinski9oct09,0,4356864.story


Some 60 years ago Arnold Toynbee concluded,
in his monumental "Study of History," that
the ultimate cause of imperial collapse was
"suicidal statecraft." Sadly for George W.
Bush's place in history and — much more
important — ominously for America's future,
that adroit phrase increasingly seems
applicable to the policies pursued by the
United States since the cataclysm of 9/11.

Though there have been some hints that the
Bush administration may be beginning to
reassess the goals, so far defined largely
by slogans, of its unsuccessful military
intervention in Iraq, President Bush's
speech Thursday was a throwback to the
demagogic formulations he employed during
the 2004 presidential campaign to justify a
war that he himself started.

That war, advocated by a narrow circle of
decision-makers for motives still not fully
exposed, propagated publicly by rhetoric
reliant on false assertions, has turned out
to be much more costly in blood and money
than anticipated. It has precipitated
worldwide criticism.

In the Middle East it has stamped the United
States as the imperialistic successor to
Britain and as a partner of Israel in the
military repression of the Arabs. Fair or
not, that perception has become widespread
throughout the world of Islam.

Now, however, more than a reformulation of
U.S. goals in Iraq is needed. The persistent
reluctance of the administration to confront
the political background of the terrorist
menace has reinforced sympathy among Muslims
for the terrorists.

It is a self-delusion for Americans to be
told that the terrorists are motivated
mainly by an abstract "hatred of freedom"
and that their acts are a reflection of a
profound cultural hostility. If that were
so, Stockholm or Rio de Janeiro would be as
much at risk as New York City. Yet, in
addition to New Yorkers, the principal
victims of serious terrorist attacks have
been Australians in Bali, Spaniards in
Madrid, Israelis in Tel Aviv, Egyptians in
the Sinai and Britons in London.

There is an obvious political thread
connecting these events: The targets are
America's allies and client states in its
deepening military intervention in the
Middle East.

Terrorists are not born but shaped by
events, experiences, impressions, hatreds,
ethnic myths, historical memories, religious
fanaticism and deliberate brainwashing.

They are also shaped by images of what they
see on television, and especially by
feelings of outrage at what they perceive to
be the brutal denigration of their religious
kin's dignity by heavily armed foreigners.

An intense political hatred for America,
Britain and Israel is drawing recruits for
terrorism not only from the Middle East but
as far away as Ethiopia, Morocco, Pakistan,
Indonesia and even the Caribbean.

America's ability to cope with nuclear
nonproliferation has also suffered.

The contrast between the attack on the
militarily weak Iraq and America's
forbearance of a nuclear-armed North Korea
has strengthened the conviction of the
Iranians that their security can only be
enhanced by nuclear weapons. Moreover, the
recent U.S. decision to assist India's
nuclear program, driven largely by the
desire for India's support for the war in
Iraq and as a hedge against China, has made
the U.S. look like a selective promoter of
nuclear weapons proliferation. This double
standard will complicate the quest for a
constructive resolution of the Iranian
nuclear problem.

Compounding such political dilemmas is the
degradation of America's moral standing in
the world.

The country that has for decades stood tall
in opposition to political repression,
torture and other violations of human rights
has been exposed as sanctioning practices
that hardly qualify as respect for human
dignity.

Even more reprehensible is the fact that the
shameful abuse and/or torture in Guantanamo
and Abu Ghraib was exposed not by an
outraged administration but by the U.S. media.

In response, the administration confined
itself to punishing a few low-level
perpetrators; none of the top civilian and
military decision-makers in the Department
of Defense and on the National Security
Council who sanctioned "stress
interrogations" (a.k.a. torture) were
publicly disgraced, prosecuted or forced to
resign. The administration's opposition to
the International Criminal Court now seems
quite self-serving.

Finally, complicating this sorry foreign
policy record are war-related economic trends.

The budgets for the departments of Defense
and Homeland Security are now larger than
the total budget of any nation, and they are
likely to continue escalating as budget and
trade deficits transform America into the
world's No. 1 debtor nation.

At the same time, the direct and indirect
costs of the war in Iraq are mounting, even
beyond the pessimistic prognoses of its
early opponents, making a mockery of the
administration's initial predictions. Every
dollar so committed is a dollar not spent on
investment, on scientific innovation or on
education, all fundamentally relevant to
America's long-term economic primacy in a
highly competitive world.

It should be a source of special concern for
thoughtful Americans that even nations known
for their traditional affection for America
have become openly critical of U.S. policy.

As a result, large swathes of the world —
including nations in East Asia, Europe and
Latin America — have been quietly exploring
ways of shaping regional associations tied
less to the notions of transpacific, or
transatlantic, or hemispheric cooperation
with the United States. Geopolitical
alienation from America could become a
lasting and menacing reality.

That trend would especially benefit
America's historic ill-wishers and future
rivals.

Sitting on the sidelines and sneering at
America's ineptitude are Russia and China —
Russia, because it is delighted to see
Muslim hostility diverted from itself toward
America, despite its own crimes in
Afghanistan and Chechnya, and is eager to
entice America into an anti-Islamic
alliance; China, because it patiently
follows the advice of its ancient strategic
guru, Sun Tzu, who taught that the best way
to win is to let your rival defeat himself.

In a very real sense, during the last four
years the Bush team has dangerously undercut
America's seemingly secure perch on top of
the global totem pole by transforming a
manageable, though serious, challenge
largely of regional origin into an
international debacle.

Because America is extraordinarily powerful
and rich, it can afford, for a while longer,
a policy articulated with rhetorical excess
and pursued with historical blindness. But
in the process, America is likely to become
isolated in a hostile world, increasingly
vulnerable to terrorist acts and less and
less able to exercise constructive global
influence. Flailing away with a stick at a
hornets' nest while loudly proclaiming "I
will stay the course" is an exercise in
catastrophic leadership.

But it need not be so.

A real course correction is still possible,
and it could start soon with a modest and
common-sense initiative by the president to
engage the Democratic congressional
leadership in a serious effort to shape a
bipartisan foreign policy for an
increasingly divided and troubled nation.

In a bipartisan setting, it would be easier
not only to scale down the definition of
success in Iraq but actually to get out —
perhaps even as early as next year. And the
sooner the U.S. leaves, the sooner the
Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis will either reach
a political arrangement on their own or some
combination of them will forcibly prevail.

With a foreign policy based on
bipartisanship and with Iraq behind us, it
would also be easier to shape a wider Middle
East policy that constructively focuses on
Iran and on the Israeli-Palestinian peace
process while restoring the legitimacy of
America's global role.


Art Bulla

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Oct 9, 2005, 9:20:56 PM10/9/05
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You slander, and you know it. Taking things out of context is what
anti-Mormons do. The Tanners and you are expert at it. All calculated to
offend the prejudices of the people. And you are a coward, for if you saw
me, you would not dare say those things to my face for you would get the
whipping of your life. Something your mulatto parentage never cared enough
to do as most Negroes in their family affairs. Hence you and Jackson are
pedophiles.


--
"I just tell em the truth, and they think it's hell." Harry Truman

Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the
context of
the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and
foul wretches
imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to
all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If
this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see
that I am
justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on
the matter in the following:

Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice,
and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys
of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according
to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him.
Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the
Lord your God.

THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.

"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition
of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand."
Dr.Samuel Johnson.

The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
<http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3>


Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68
As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons
of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the
brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.

"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call
down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are
indebted
to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God
has
spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith

"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the
one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge
and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over
preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of
righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the
creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229,
George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866

"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they
understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not
understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This
can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became
foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of
Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the
gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith
in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)

35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall
be sent away, and shall not inherit the land.
36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim,
wherefore they shall be plucked out.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)


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John Manning

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Bulla loses what's left of his mind.

Art Bulla is a deadbeat dad who abandoned
his wife and six children and never paid a
dime of child support. He's also a hateful
racist bigot, a documented liar and a
psychotic law fugitive from involuntary
commitment. And he claims that he's
*persecuted* ?!?

Amazing.

Art Bulla

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Willytex replied: So, Mr. Manning, it's my fault that your name is mud all

over Rio de Janero, Salt Lake City, Utah and Fairfield, Iowa? This is a

classic and should go down in the a.m.t. and a.r.m. history archives! Well,

John, I don't care how many chemicals you've taken, or how high you've been,

or how many cults you've joined, or how many wives you've divorced, or how

many drafts you evaded, OR HOW MANY CHILDREN YOU'VE ABANDONED, nothing can

compare...

ROTHLMAO!!!

Don Juan, fits in perfectly with TM, does it, Manning? That whole hurdy

gurdy George Harrison Maharishi bullshit! Woe to those who seek to climb up

some other way than by entering in at the gate, saith the Lord. There is no

salvation without a legal administrator. The devil used this as a vehicle to

infect the minds and bodies of a whole generation! Drug using to get close

to God! What foolishness. Tower of Babel foolishness! Manning has done so

much acid, his brain is fried and hardened and seared into complete

devilishness in which the world he that he beholds is the complete opposite

of godliness! And then he goes from TM into further depravity, that of

actually covenanting and swearing allegiance by oath to the devil. Satanist!

Fool And why does the devil come here to persecute the Saints of God? It is

because the devil knows that Zion is his enemy and he fears no other system

of religion or government, therefore he sends his servants to throw up a

mist of darkness to confuse the gullible and ignorant, while wearing the

bumper sticker of Christianity! Wolf in sheep's clothing! Well I will not

succeed while I'm here.

Art Bulla

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Oct 10, 2005, 1:57:50 PM10/10/05
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Nigger Politics. You demonstrate the principle of the person who has one
drop of the blood of Cain always thinks like a nigger. You indeed are a
nigger in your thinking, as Booker T. Washington admitted:

Dr. Booker T. Washington, who obtained a degree in the field of genetics. In
1913 Dr. Washington was invited to speak at the University of Utah, at which
nearly all of the general authorities of the Church were in attendance.
Bishop John Whitaker, in a private conversation afterwards, asked him about
the effect of this mixed blood between the two races. Whitaker reported:
If perchance under discussion on some Negro problem, the question arose as
to how a Negro would vote if only one drop of Negro blood run in his veins
which way would that drop of blood vote on a question, white or black?
Without hesitation he [Dr. Washington] said, "If there was one drop of blood
in a person and such a question arose, it would always vote with the Negro."
I was struck with his ready answer, [205] showing he had thought out almost
every conceivable connection white and black. And I have been told that pure
white blood through intermarriage with any other blood runs out in four
generations. I am told that Negro blood will persist up to eight
generations. There seems to be something in that accursed blood that will
not yield to white blood. (Daily Journal of John M. Whitaker, March 27,
1913, U of U Library)
It is for this reason that men who are of partially mixed blood with the
Canaanite will not vote or sustain the laws or principles that pertain to
the covenants and Priesthood of the House of Israel. Therefore, men must be
particularly certain as to where, how and by whom the Priesthood is handled.
This problem came up in a Council meeting in which George Q. Cannon spoke
up, saying:

President Young held to the doctrine that no man tainted with Negro blood
was eligible to have the priesthood; that President Taylor held to the same
doctrine, claiming to have been taught it by the Prophet Joseph Smith.
(Council Minutes, Aug. 22, 1900, Bennion Papers) These factors governing
the Priesthood are so critical that men, in any position, can lose their own
Priesthood and calling by disobedience to them. Brigham Young understood it
to be so conclusive that he declared: Let this Church which is called the
Kingdom of God on the earth; we will summons the First Presidency, the
Twelve, the High Council, the Bishopric, and all the Elders of Israel,
suppose we summons them and appear here, and here declare that it is right
to mingle our seed with the black race of Cain, that they shall come in with
us and be partakers with us of all the blessings God has given to us. On
that very day and hour we should do so, the Priesthood is taken from this
Church and Kingdom and God leaves us to our fate. The moment we
con-[206]sent to mingle with the seed of Cain, the Church must go to
destruction--we should receive the curse which has been placed upon the seed
of Cain, and never more be numbered with the children of Adam who are heirs
to the Priesthood until that curse be removed. (Speech by Gov. Brigham Young
in Joint Session of the Legislature, giving his views on slavery, Feb. 5,
1852) You are a nigger, will always advocate the racial politics of the
Negro and will go down to hell for it and blasphemy against the white and
delightsome race, even Israel. I say up with Ephraim and down with the
black race of Cain, you hurdy gurdy Canaanite bastard. Come down here and
blaspheme to my face coward.
Zech 14:21
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD
of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and
seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the
house of the LORD of hosts.

John Manning

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Oct 10, 2005, 2:09:18 PM10/10/05
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Art Bulla pulls this one out of his ass over
and over again.

He's apparently terribly desperate to
somehow hide the fact that he's a deadbeat

dad who abandoned his wife and six children
and never paid a dime of child support. He's
also a hateful racist bigot, a documented
liar and a psychotic law fugitive from
involuntary commitment. And he claims that
he's *persecuted* ?!?

Amazing.

As for Willytex, he's a known meth addict,
prolific drug user, liar and troll. See for
yourself:

"So, Uncle Tantra, Willytex isn't the only
person who gets a buzz out of
performing the puja and enjoying some good
old recreational substances!"

~~ Richard 'little dick' Williams, aka
Willytex, bragging about his drug usage -
December, 20, 2004 - Google archive:
http://tinyurl.com/3tncu

From Willytex:

"I said 'I introduced Ned Wynn to TM.' So,
I don't care what Ned says in his book or
what he calls me."

Google archives:
http://tinyurl.com/6hgnw

From Ned Wynn's book:

"Riley and I would pace the floor anxiously
for Willie, a Methedrine addict from Alabama
who weighed maybe one hundred and five
pounds, to bring us some acid [LSD]."

Google archives:
http://tinyurl.com/5ctgw

Willytex, the drug addled troll claims to
have gotten 'enlightened' with psylocybin
['magic' mushrooms] slipped into his taco by
none other than Don Juan:

FROM WILLY'S POST:

"...However, that being said, nothing can
compare with the psylocibin I
ingested down in Mexico with Don Juan back
in '71! That's when I realized the
inter-dependnce of all things; I saw and
talked to God and His wife and His Son, and
I realized that creation is a family affair;
I got enlightened on the spot at the exact
center of the universe. Now I don't need
scriptures, gurus, drugs, meditation, sleep,
or even feedback anymore, because I'm solo
auditing, constantly, and in communication
with the Demi-urge on a daily basis.
However, I still meditate because that's
just what intelligent people do."

Click here for the full thread:
http://tinyurl.com/4n3yf

*****
BOB BRIGANTE:

"The trouble with relying on a drug-addled
clown like Willytex for one's meditation
instruction is that this approach is as
full of holes as Tex's brain after a
lifetime of drug use (for people new to
this list, Willytex regularly sings the
praises of recreational drugs)."

Here's another example of Willytex praising
drug use:

WILLYTEX:

"I think most, if not all, of the Vedas
were composed while under the influence of
the psychoactive substance, the fly
agaric, just like it says in the Rig Veda.
It seems apparent to me that the
majority of the Upanishads were composed
while under the influence of hemp.

In addition, I fully agree with John M.
Allegro, one of the translators of
the Dead Sea Scrolls, that the fly agaric
was the substance used in order to
compose most, if not all, of the Old and
New Testament. Apparently, parts of
the Appendix, such as the Gospel According
to John was composed by its
author while under the influence of
fermented grape juice. The Book of
Revelations was obviously composed while
under the influence of a
psychedelic because it even says so: John
swallowed a square blotter paper
laced with LSD, which as you probably know,
is an ergot found in old bread
and synthesized by Hoffman in 1959.

No less an exalted hero than the Lord Shiva
himself smoked the Cannibus Indica, just
like millions of holy men, sadhus, and
fakirs do today throughout India and the
Middle East. The entire Zend Avesta of the
Persian religion was composed while under
the influence of 'Hoama' i.e. the 'Soma'
of the Rig Veda. There is no reason to
assume that the use of psychoactive
substances is a recent trend in India!"

Here's a comment on Willytex from Judy
Stein, an astute, fully knowledgeable
practitioner and supporter of TM (over 30
years experience) and a regular poster on
alt.meditation.transcendental:

JUDY STEIN:

"Willytex is a troll. He didn't used to
be, but he's turned into one in the past
year. Most of us just ignore him now."

John Manning

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Art Bulla wrote:
> Nigger Politics. You demonstrate the principle of the person who has one
> drop of the blood of Cain always thinks like a nigger. You indeed are a
> nigger in your thinking,


Happy days for hateful racist bigot Art Bulla!

[NOTE: This hateful crackpot, Art Bulla,
actually claims to be a new 'messiah'. LOL!]

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Actual Quotes from Art Bulla:

“Nigger Inko-Stinko, murderous black son of
a bitch. I piss down your neck, black ass
hole. Niggers be gone!”
~~ Art Bulla

“Say that to my face you brazen slanderer
and liar and I will kick your ass before I
kill you.”
~~ Art Bulla

"You understand nothing. Not your present,
past or future. You are as the brute beast,
meant to be taken and destroyed, saith the
Lord.”
~~ Art Bulla

“Low, venal Niggerizer in chief. You are
despised. Nigger politics, smear merchants,
the party of no, party of Maxine Waters,
John Conyers. Uphold the nigger, down with
Israel, but white and delightsome race.”
~~ Art Bulla

""The left are all barbarian swine and
should be destroyed, saith the Lord."
~~ Art Bulla

“God is a racist, saith the Lord."
~~ Art Bulla

"Don't you get it yet? He is not the God of
niggers, you fool"
~~ Art Bulla

"More nigger politics! Ha! Ha! Nigger

Politics. You demonstrate the principle of
the person who has one drop of the blood of
Cain always thinks like a nigger."

~~ Art Bulla

“You don't believe anything Christ said or
believed, so don't give me that shit, you
stupid bastard. Come down here and meet
your end. I will bury you under the rocks
and no one will care and the heavens will
rejoice that such swine are destroyed.”
~~ Art Bulla

"It is from "Martin-Luther-Coonism" that all
the ills of homosexual marriage and rights
and feminist balderdash and abortion rights
come, for these always compare their
movements with the crime against nature of
mixing with the black race of Cain."
~~ Art Bulla

"Your kind always lie, you queer. I know you
are a fat fuck. Come down here and I will
teach you to keep silence. Even a dog knows
its superiors. It is probably that black
blood in Brazil that makes you so crazy. BY
[Brigham Young] said one drop of the blood
of Cain colors one's thinking. This, as
well as you being queer (yo momma is
probably black) causes you to be so loopy on
the left. Now go away, you black queer."
~~ Art Bulla


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