The 'new apartment' disaster tally so far --
- Leaf mice
- Oven leaf mice
- House rain
- Falling ceilings
- Sonia's pots and pans
- Hookers [1]
- Scary, icky drain hair
[1] Dan told me that I would make a killing around here, considering how
disgustingly ugly the competition is. I need to invest in some new
thigh-high fishnets and a sleazy pair of stilettos.
~T (thinks about a part-time job...)
> We're heading on 4 months of living here and I still have contractors in my
> house. Right now, I can see the butt-crack of the plumber as he is snaking
> some wacky machiney-like thing down the bathroom drain and pulling up wads
> and wads of hair. Either the previous tenants did some really weird stuff
> while using the loo or my cats are shedding into the toilet at will.
> Regardless, it is O GROSS! The plumber pulled more hair out of my drain
> than I have on my head. EWWWW!
Yes, EW. The gross factor of drainhair is beyond measurement. Our
apartment came equipped with these little mesh hairtraps to set in the
drains, which instantly clog up the moment I wet my hair. I shed like a
hairy dog in spring, so my least favourite part of each day is standing
up to my ankles in my own dirty body water.
> The 'new apartment' disaster tally so far --
>
> - Leaf mice
> - Oven leaf mice
> - House rain
> - Falling ceilings
> - Sonia's pots and pans
> - Hookers [1]
> - Scary, icky drain hair
>
> [1] Dan told me that I would make a killing around here, considering how
> disgustingly ugly the competition is. I need to invest in some new
> thigh-high fishnets and a sleazy pair of stilettos.
>
> ~T (thinks about a part-time job...)
You know, It seems we've lucked out apartment-wise. It's a rare, rare
occasion that we run into any of our neighbours in the hall or
stairwells. The only noise pollution is the pleasant strumming of the
guitarist upstairs and he's actually talented. Our toilet does this
cheery, enthusiastic bubbling thing like it's suddenly gone all
carbonated, but a tiny jiggle of the flush handle takes care of it. All
in all, I'd say our woes are non-existent (except for the hairtraps, I
guess). I think I'm jealous.
-Keltie
> Yes, EW. The gross factor of drainhair is beyond measurement. Our
> apartment came equipped with these little mesh hairtraps to set in the
> drains, which instantly clog up the moment I wet my hair. I shed like a
> hairy dog in spring, so my least favourite part of each day is standing
> up to my ankles in my own dirty body water.
A friend related the following story to me.
Dear Laughter, The Best Medicine:
While I was in college, a bunch of people I knew rented a house
together. After about a year, I joined them and discovered that
DRAINHAIR was a major issue in the house -- one of the house duties was
cleaning out the shower drain.
One of my housemates, a red-haired chap, felt that our two long-haired
housemates should by rights have to spend more time on this duty than
anyone else. He felt that he was unfairly stigmatized because if you
looked at one of the clogs, all you could see was the RED HAIR. "But if
you separate the clog strand by strand," he continued, a gleam of
fanaticism forming in his eye, "you'll see that my hair makes up the
expected proportion of the hair in the clog!"
Needless to say, he got the job.
-jwgh
--
'The strip is beautiful, btw. I laughed, I cried, I showed it to a
friend, the friend said "I don't get it," I laughed.'
-- Reid Orsten, 27 August 2003
> A friend related the following story to me.
>
> Dear Laughter, The Best Medicine:
>
> While I was in college, a bunch of people I knew rented a house
> together. After about a year, I joined them and discovered that
> DRAINHAIR was a major issue in the house -- one of the house duties was
> cleaning out the shower drain.
>
> One of my housemates, a red-haired chap, felt that our two long-haired
> housemates should by rights have to spend more time on this duty than
> anyone else. He felt that he was unfairly stigmatized because if you
> looked at one of the clogs, all you could see was the RED HAIR. "But if
> you separate the clog strand by strand," he continued, a gleam of
> fanaticism forming in his eye, "you'll see that my hair makes up the
> expected proportion of the hair in the clog!"
>
> Needless to say, he got the job.
In our living space I seem to be the premier shedder. And we have a cat.
-Keltie
--
looka my site! http://keltie.fateback.com
I can vouch for that. Well, the part about the disgustingly ugly
competition anyway. But would you be able to be so boisterous with
all the old Canadian guys down at Jimmy's Pub?
> I need to invest in some new thigh-high fishnets and a sleazy pair
> of stilettos.
Why bother? Just go with the black-t-shirt-and-sweatpants look
popular with your, uh, local future colleagues.
JM
Yeahbut, I shed in the drain hole, and the long-haired cat sheds all
over the floor. Every couple of days, I notice yet another Large Clump
of hair in a new spot.
The short haired cat sheds on my clothes.
Don't make the mistake of cleaning your clothes by putting them on the
ground, and vacuuming one side, turning it over, and vacuuming the
other side, because you turn it over again, and find you have to
repeat, and repeat, and repeat. In fact, 4 weeks after I discovered
this fact, I am writing this UNSET article as I am VACUUMING MY
CLOTHES.
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Shift to the Left;
Shift to the Right
Pop up; Push down
Byte! Byte! Byte!!!
> Don't make the mistake of cleaning your clothes by putting them on the
> ground, and vacuuming one side, turning it over, and vacuuming the
> other side, because you turn it over again, and find you have to
> repeat, and repeat, and repeat. In fact, 4 weeks after I discovered
> this fact, I am writing this UNSET article as I am VACUUMING MY
> CLOTHES.
Here's my contribution to getting you out of this loop:
C-c
HTH,
Adam
> looka my site! http://keltie.fateback.com
My mozilla shows a couple of b0rken pictures in the main frame. Other than
that, It's Just Groovy!
--
"Mogu is a tiny golem wife ... and your best friend ...
and your worst nightmare."
- Joe Bay
The Wiblovian Institute of Kibology - http://www.aros.net/~jchapman
> You know, It seems we've lucked out apartment-wise. It's a rare, rare
> occasion that we run into any of our neighbours in the hall or
> stairwells. The only noise pollution is the pleasant strumming of the
> guitarist upstairs and he's actually talented. Our toilet does this
> cheery, enthusiastic bubbling thing like it's suddenly gone all
> carbonated, but a tiny jiggle of the flush handle takes care of it. All
> in all, I'd say our woes are non-existent (except for the hairtraps, I
> guess). I think I'm jealous.
Well I haven't seen your new place yet but you've been here a couple of
times. I think you will agree that we have a good deal here, space-wise.
Plus I love the location since the buses and streetcars run 24/7 and there
is everything I need within a 2-minute walk. It sure beats my old
neighbourhood. Still, there have been MAJOR headaches since moving in here
and it doesn't appear to be over with yet. This place was basically gutted
before we moved in and it sure does make me wonder if "newly renovated"
really means "oh boy...ha ha!...you're fucked now!"
But for $1,500 inclusive/month for 1,600 square feet of living space, I
should just shut up and stop complaining.
I just wish the mice would chip on the rent.
~T
> Well I haven't seen your new place yet but you've been here a couple of
> times. I think you will agree that we have a good deal here, space-wise.
> Plus I love the location since the buses and streetcars run 24/7 and there
> is everything I need within a 2-minute walk. It sure beats my old
> neighbourhood. Still, there have been MAJOR headaches since moving in
here
> and it doesn't appear to be over with yet. This place was basically
gutted
> before we moved in and it sure does make me wonder if "newly renovated"
> really means "oh boy...ha ha!...you're fucked now!"
>
> But for $1,500 inclusive/month for 1,600 square feet of living space, I
> should just shut up and stop complaining.
>
> I just wish the mice would chip on the rent.
Somewhere in the above post, I neglected to include the word "in." Figure
it out for yourselves.
Thanks.
~T
Wiblur the Once wrote:
> Keltie <kel...@magma.ca> was heard mumbling something about...
>
>
>>looka my site! http://keltie.fateback.com
>
>
> My mozilla shows a couple of b0rken pictures in the main frame. Other than
> that, It's Just Groovy!
Sigh. I know. It all came about due to a major conflict between myself,
Mr. Jeanes' Mac, and the horrific Mozilla Composer program which if I
were using my own machine, would never even be considered as a tool. I
must fix them soon, which will involve making new graphics. But thanks!
-Keltie
--
*confused*
doesn't emacs run on MacOS X, then?
butting
It likely do, but I just hand-code very simplistic html on my own
machine. I wanted to make a tiny change to my main page, and since I
HATE textedit with all my heart thought I'd just use composer this once
since this is not my machine. Downloading the page was easy, but
something in the machine figures that it is handy and smart to download
the graphics as well and put them in a handy and smart little folder. It
then handily and smartly re-uploaded them without asking me, and the
graphics somehow in that handy and smart process became corrupted and
crappy versions of their former selves. Argh.
There are now cheap and cheesy flamingtext.com graphics to replace them
in the meantime. My heart is broken.
-Keltie
--
> Yes, EW. The gross factor of drainhair is beyond measurement. Our
> apartment came equipped with these little mesh hairtraps to set in the
> drains, which instantly clog up the moment I wet my hair. I shed like
> a hairy dog in spring, so my least favourite part of each day is
> standing up to my ankles in my own dirty body water.
>
I had that problem in my flat until I invested in a plunger (I was told
to use Caustic Soda if that didn't work.) It may also have something to
do with the pipes being laid horizontally in my bathroom (which is bad as
they don't drain properly.)
Thanks.
--
(My email is valid, but I will not be replying to any email to this
account.)
Tim's Melbourne Flat|| GIT Groupie
http://timchuma.com || http://timchuma.com/gitgroupie/
IQC: 198344892
TimC wrote:
> Keltie (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>In our living space I seem to be the premier shedder. And we have a cat.
>
>
> Yeahbut, I shed in the drain hole, and the long-haired cat sheds all
> over the floor. Every couple of days, I notice yet another Large Clump
> of hair in a new spot.
>
> The short haired cat sheds on my clothes.
>
> Don't make the mistake of cleaning your clothes by putting them on the
> ground, and vacuuming one side, turning it over, and vacuuming the
> other side, because you turn it over again, and find you have to
> repeat, and repeat, and repeat. In fact, 4 weeks after I discovered
> this fact, I am writing this UNSET article as I am VACUUMING MY
> CLOTHES.
The answer, of course, is to wear your clothes inside out.
Tamara wrote:
> Well I haven't seen your new place yet but you've been here a couple of
> times. I think you will agree that we have a good deal here, space-wise.
> Plus I love the location since the buses and streetcars run 24/7 and there
> is everything I need within a 2-minute walk. It sure beats my old
> neighbourhood. Still, there have been MAJOR headaches since moving in here
> and it doesn't appear to be over with yet. This place was basically gutted
> before we moved in and it sure does make me wonder if "newly renovated"
> really means "oh boy...ha ha!...you're fucked now!"
>
> But for $1,500 inclusive/month for 1,600 square feet of living space, I
> should just shut up and stop complaining.
>
> I just wish the mice would chip on the rent.
I love the amount of space that you have going on. I envision some
drunken races up and down the hallway at some point in the future.
And I *like* mice. When I first got married we discovered we had a mouse
within the first week. I hated to see it go. It was our only mouse and
we caught it in one of those humane traps that seem to never work for
anyone else. We set it free behind the Becker's near our place. It never
came back.
Or just run around NEKKID!! WOOOOOO!!
~T (in the buff RITE NOW BAYBEE!)
<terrified awe>
bloody hell: they've gone and static-linked Word.
butting
> Bryce Utting wrote:
>> doesn't emacs run on MacOS X, then?
> It likely do, but I just hand-code very simplistic html on my own
> machine. I wanted to make a tiny change to my main page, and since I
> HATE textedit with all my heart thought I'd just use composer this once
> since this is not my machine.
/usr/bin/vi
HTH
C.
--
Melbourne, Victoria, Austria
> I had that problem in my flat until I invested in a plunger (I was told
> to use Caustic Soda if that didn't work.)
You put hair and caustic soda in your coffee maker?
DOUBLE EWWW!!!
> "Keltie" <kel...@magma.ca> wrote in message
> news:momdnT0QpeV...@magma.ca...
>>The answer, of course, is to wear your clothes inside out.
>
>
> Or just run around NEKKID!! WOOOOOO!!
>
> ~T (in the buff RITE NOW BAYBEE!)
My mind is now meshing this post with my post about racing in your
hallway, and I'm wondering if we're going to be able to incorporate this
into the next ARKPLE.
> Tim Chmielewski skribis,
>
>> I had that problem in my flat until I invested in a plunger (I was
told
>> to use Caustic Soda if that didn't work.)
>
> You put hair and caustic soda in your coffee maker?
> DOUBLE EWWW!!!
Wrong sort of plunger, it's the sort you carry around while singing "New
York City cops, they ain't too smart..."
Thanks.
--
--
You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard.
> Wrong sort of plunger, it's the sort you carry around while singing "New
> York City cops, they ain't too smart..."
YHBT, YHL, HAND.
It's cat fur. It is impossible to remove from the carpet.
Er, duh, I just realised I said ground instead of carpet.
You cannot vacuum the ground! It's dirty! You suck up the Earth! You
silly Billy.
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
* * It's: "SPLAT - MY CAT!"
-//-//-_
+>\ --__ Slower than a speeding DATSUN 180B. Much slower.
+>/ _------__ Mortally slower, one might say. Rest in Pieces.
-\\-\\--
* *
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but did they also manage to get him to snap the handle roughly in
half first?
"And it is that word 'hummy,' my darlings, that marks the first place in
ŹR -+- 'The House At Pooh Corner' at which Tonstant Weader Fwowed up."
http://www.bestweb.net/~notr/dreams.poems.html -++- --Dorothy Parker
> You know, It seems we've lucked out apartment-wise. It's a rare, rare
> occasion that we run into any of our neighbours in the hall or
> stairwells. The only noise pollution is the pleasant strumming of the
> guitarist upstairs and he's actually talented.
Well Sonia is wailing again. I don't know if that is a talent or not. This
time I didn't bother going to check on what she's all upset about. I just
shut the door.
> I think I'm jealous.
Jealous you say? Here...take her! Yesterday I woke up to find her standing
beside the bed again. Now THAT really creeps me out! Do you have any idea
what it is like to open your eyes and find your neighbour in your bedroom
cheerfully greeting you with "Hi guys! Can I use your computer?" GAAAH!!
~T (I wonder how long she stands there before actually waking us...?)
Tamara wrote:
> "Keltie" <kel...@magma.ca> wrote in message
>>I think I'm jealous.
>
>
> Jealous you say? Here...take her! Yesterday I woke up to find her standing
> beside the bed again. Now THAT really creeps me out! Do you have any idea
> what it is like to open your eyes and find your neighbour in your bedroom
> cheerfully greeting you with "Hi guys! Can I use your computer?" GAAAH!!
Yeah. Cuz she got caught.
> ~T (I wonder how long she stands there before actually waking us...?)
Try not to think about it. I'm sure she means you no harm.
-Keltie (just trying to help!)
>Jealous you say? Here...take her! Yesterday I woke up to find her standing
>beside the bed again. Now THAT really creeps me out! Do you have any idea
>what it is like to open your eyes and find your neighbour in your bedroom
>cheerfully greeting you with "Hi guys! Can I use your computer?" GAAAH!!
You know, I could tell you how to break her of that habit, but I got a
feeling you get all icky at the sight of blood.
(There's a hickory ax handle under my bed. She would do it only once.)
PS: Technically, isn't she your roommate, and not your neighbor? Also,
please note the correct spelling of "neighbor."
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"You can safely ignore Kevin in order to
maximise life's experience." --A. Loon, in alt.religion.kibology
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:34 GMT, "Tamara"
> <tamaraharris@rogers-removethis-.com> wrote:
>
> >Jealous you say? Here...take her! Yesterday I woke up to find her
standing
> >beside the bed again. Now THAT really creeps me out! Do you have any
idea
> >what it is like to open your eyes and find your neighbour in your bedroom
> >cheerfully greeting you with "Hi guys! Can I use your computer?"
GAAAH!!
>
> You know, I could tell you how to break her of that habit, but I got a
> feeling you get all icky at the sight of blood.
Blood doesn't bother me at all.
> PS: Technically, isn't she your roommate, and not your neighbor? Also,
> please note the correct spelling of "neighbor."
No, she's not my roommate. We live in a huge house that is divided into
three apartments. Anita and Les downstairs have a separate entrance
entirely so I rarely see them. Fool and I live on the second floor and
Carezza and Sonia live on the third floor. To get to their apartment, they
have to use part of our hallway. Their stairway runs up from the end of the
hall and there is no separate door. So basically, this means we can hear
everything that goes on upstairs and, unless I close the door in the
hallway, I see them every time they arrive or leave. By keeping that door
open, she has complete access to our flat but I prefer to keep it open since
it gives the cats more room to run around.
She just doesn't seem to understand what boundaries are and so she wanders
around as she pleases. Why should I have to close off part of my apartment
just to keep her out? This is our place, not hers. She lives upstairs.
She has a room, kitchenette and bathroom. I don't go up there! Well, not
always. Just to sneak around and take pictures. Heh.
Also, we have a washer/dryer in our unit. They don't. Because of my kind
heart, I let them use it when they want. Stupid, stupid me. This means
that they have to come into our living space since the laundry unit is at
the far end of the house, nowhere near the stairs. That's okay. They can
do laundry. Just stay the hell out of our bedroom!!
~T (and our spelling of 'neighbour' is the correct one, you putz. Sheesh.
You stubborn 'merkins just won't conform.)
<snip the explanation of how Tamara (pronounced "Tomorrow") got in
this situation)
Tamara--and I ask this with your best interests in mind--does it take
long to paint WELCOME across your chest every morning?
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:20:14 GMT, "Tamara"
> <tamaraharris@rogers-removethis-.com> wrote:
>
> <snip the explanation of how Tamara (pronounced "Tomorrow") got in
> this situation)
>
> Tamara--and I ask this with your best interests in mind--does it take
> long to paint WELCOME across your chest every morning?
It probably wouldn't take too long but I have no way of knowing. I don't
seem to have a "chest" anymore.
I really shouldn't complain. It could be a lot worse. We're lucky that we
have these two living upstairs because they are friends of Fool's sister
(who *used* to be our actual roommate until...well...until I...um...freaked
out on her one too many times and she moved out.) Our landlord gave us full
authority to approve or decline any third floor residents and these two
seemed nice enough so we gave it the go-ahead and they moved in two weeks
after we did.
They are young, geeky University students.
They provide good fodder for ARK.
~T
>They are young, geeky University students.
>
>They provide good fodder for ARK.
AND ARK IS HUNGRY.
Coming this summer to a theater near you.
--
BTR
The Glass Marble, mistaking the No. 37 Penpoint for the Four-Holed
Button, pushed it into the Yawning Chasm.
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:20:14 GMT, "Tamara"
> <tamaraharris@rogers-removethis-.com> wrote:
>
> <snip the explanation of how Tamara (pronounced "Tomorrow") got in
> this situation)
>
> Tamara--and I ask this with your best interests in mind--does it take
> long to paint WELCOME across your chest every morning?
Not since the drunken visit to the tatoo parloUr.
--Jeremy
--
Jeremy Impson
jdimpson can be contacted at acm dot org
http://impson.tzo.com/~jdimpson
Yeah, but you sure can smell them when they're partying down there.
Every night.
JM
I woke Tam up once by dangling my extremely long sleeve down over her
face and tickling her with it. I had considered using the Airzooka as
a means of awakening her, but decided against it. I think I'd gotten
my fill of injury-free violence by watching some of the many, many
episodes of "The A-Team" and "Knight Rider" that are available every
day on Canadian cable teevee stations.
JM
> By keeping that door
> open, she has complete access to our flat but I prefer to keep it open
> since it gives the cats more room to run around.
>
So, just train the cats to go poo in her shoes on command, since they
have access to her place.
--
"Mogu is a tiny golem wife ... and your best friend ...
and your worst nightmare."
- Joe Bay
The Wiblovian Institute of Kibology - http://www.aros.net/~jchapman
Hey, at least she hasn't been doing what this Floridian did:
-> PORT CHARLOTTE, Fla.- Police arrested a man who allegedly poured
-> bleach on a sleeping couple after breaking into their home.
->
-> Joseph Lee Menzel, 32, was charged with burglary of an occupied home
-> and two counts of battery for the attack on Sean and Christine Austin.
->
-> According to a sheriff's report, Menzel pried open a rear window of
-> the home and emptied a bottle of bleach on Austins while they were
-> lying in bed on July 5. Both suffered burns, but no permanent damage.
->
-> "How can you forget something like that?" Christine Austin, 31, said
-> Thursday. "We woke up when the bleach was being poured on us. Yeah, it
-> was a pretty horrible experience."
Mmmm, bleach.
JM
You SO want to live in Canada. Listen, Tam and Fool could be in the
market for upstairs roomies soon ...
-Keltie (Who is terrified of the Airzooka.)
>I woke Tam up once by dangling my extremely long sleeve down over her
>face and tickling her with it.
Um, Joe? YHBT.
Regardless of what you might've been told, they don't call it a
"sleeve" in Canada. And Tam says yours isn't very long, anyway.
IFYPFY.
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
David Barnes - "The difference between George Bush
and John Howard? Nothing - except George is on the top".
You can't make a battery with bleach. You need sulphuric acid or
somesuch. And where are the different metals?
--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Usage: fortune -P [-f] -a [xsz] Q: file [rKe9] -v6[+] file1 ...
> Keltie skribis,
>
> > Bryce Utting wrote:
>
> >> doesn't emacs run on MacOS X, then?
>
> > It likely do, but I just hand-code very simplistic html on my own
> > machine. I wanted to make a tiny change to my main page, and since I
> > HATE textedit with all my heart thought I'd just use composer this once
> > since this is not my machine.
>
> /usr/bin/vi
Macs with OS X come with vi, emacs, and pico already installed under
/usr/bin, so holy warriors of all persuasions are welcome. The emacs
isn't compiled with X11 support (though it's not hard to get a version
that is, and somebody made a Cocoa one too).
(I use BBEdit, but that's pretty expensive these days, albeit
frighteningly powerful. There used to be BBEdit Lite which was free and
pretty good; probably runs fine in the Classic environment if you can
score a copy. Bare Bones seems to have discontinued BBEdit Lite and
instead come out with a cheaper commercial editor called TextWrangler.
I don't know much about it.)
--
Matt McIrvin http://world.std.com/~mmcirvin/
> Jealous you say? Here...take her! Yesterday I woke up to find her standing
> beside the bed again. Now THAT really creeps me out! Do you have any idea
> what it is like to open your eyes and find your neighbour in your bedroom
> cheerfully greeting you with "Hi guys! Can I use your computer?" GAAAH!!
"AAHHH!! The nightmare came true and I'm back in college!"
For a brief, shining moment, the Barebones folks distributed BBedit
Lite for OS X, which I have and use daily. It is pretty powerful and
will pry open most files sos you can see what's in 'em.
Also good is Tex-Edit Plus for X from Tom Bender's Trans Tex Software
-- good grep engine for find and replace.
--
Institute for Misapplied Psychometry fellow E Teflon Piano is founder of the
Internet 'Lectronic Legal Society. Teflon is a mark owned by duPont. E is E
poly(TFE) Piano Enterprises' [dibs] for ironic hyperbole and elitist satire.
ŠE[dibs] 1994-2003
Dear Dr McIrvin,
I have used emacs for a few years now. Tell me, would I be
"frightened" by the "power" of BBEdit?
WAITING TO BE FRIGHTENED!!!
--
When we come back we'll have questions from the
audience and maybe some cake! -- Jerry Springer
http://beable.com/
> The moving finger of Beable van Polasm wrote and then moved on:
> >I have used emacs for a few years now. Tell me, would I be
> >"frightened" by the "power" of BBEdit?
> >
> >WAITING TO BE FRIGHTENED!!!
>
> The night was dark and storms were near,
> And thunder shook the floor.
> The turbid air was filled with fear,
> And editors at war.
>
> With one fell macro, a paragraph filled
> And BBedit roared;
> And in gnus a poster was killed
> In a single keychord.
>
> Throughout the night, the titans clashed
> And only dawn would see
> If BBEdit crashed, by emacs bashed
> Or who would the victor be.
Needs more wacky chimps.
--
NOBODY WITHOUT A TRIPLE-SIZE CUBICAL BRAIN CAN TRULY SMELL BACON! -- Kibo
http://beable.com/
> I have used emacs for a few years now. Tell me, would I be
> "frightened" by the "power" of BBEdit?
>
> WAITING TO BE FRIGHTENED!!!
You are probably imagining that BBEdit is some toy baby Notepad-type
editor. Of course you are wrong and I laugh at you.
I use emacs at work and BBEdit at home. For a programmer's editor, I
prefer emacs out of familiarity. But BBEdit's HTML/CSS support is
considerably fancier than that of emacs, since that's what Bare Bones
has been concentrating on for the past few years. BBEdit's regexp
engine is also better than the one in emacs; it supports more of the
common extensions.
You can write text-processing plug-ins for BBEdit in Perl, which I like
because I vastly prefer Perl to Lisp. (Now you're going to tell me that
you can also write plug-ins for emacs in Perl. Probably you can, since
in general you can do anything inside of emacs, but I've certainly never
figured out how. The internal documentation is a nightmarish maze, into
which you are tossed when you press the backspace key if you are
unlucky.)
On the other hand, emacs includes the best code-merge tool ever written.
Also, if you like Mac-like user interfaces, BBEdit has a Mac-like user
interface, whereas emacs expects you to use it to give everything else
in the universe an emacs-like user interface. So there's a pure matter
of taste involved as well. I know a guy who basically does his entire
job inside of one emacs window.
> The night was dark and storms were near,
> And thunder shook the floor.
> The turbid air was filled with fear,
> And editors at war.
<http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/editors.mp3>
-jwgh
--
'The strip is beautiful, btw. I laughed, I cried, I showed it to a
friend, the friend said "I don't get it," I laughed.'
-- Reid Orsten, 27 August 2003
Needs a brief, plinky guitar solo before the final repetition.
> In article <een0aom...@dingo.beable.com>,
> Beable van Polasm <beable+...@beable.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I have used emacs for a few years now. Tell me, would I be
> > "frightened" by the "power" of BBEdit?
> >
> > WAITING TO BE FRIGHTENED!!!
>
> You are probably imagining that BBEdit is some toy baby Notepad-type
> editor. Of course you are wrong and I laugh at you.
>
> I use emacs at work and BBEdit at home. For a programmer's editor, I
> prefer emacs out of familiarity. But BBEdit's HTML/CSS support is
> considerably fancier than that of emacs, since that's what Bare Bones
> has been concentrating on for the past few years. BBEdit's regexp
> engine is also better than the one in emacs; it supports more of the
> common extensions.
If BBEdit's HTML/CSS support is better, that just means that YOU made
Richard Stallman cry by not writing better support for Emacs! And of
course you can install the Emacs/Perl module and use Perl regexps. In
fact, surely it's time for somebody to write an entire editor in two
lines of Perl which replicates the best-ever editor interface: Ed.
Except that it uses Perl commands for its editing.
> You can write text-processing plug-ins for BBEdit in Perl, which I like
> because I vastly prefer Perl to Lisp. (Now you're going to tell me that
> you can also write plug-ins for emacs in Perl. Probably you can, since
> in general you can do anything inside of emacs, but I've certainly never
> figured out how.
Well of course you can. I think I tried this one out:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/epl
But then for some reason, I went back to Lisp. Even though it breaks
my brane. Somewhere on the web, a Lisp-lovin'-frootloop wrote that
when other languages add closures and suchlike (as Perl did), then all
they are doing is getting closer to what Lisp could already do thirty
years ago, except that their syntax is broken.
> The internal documentation is a nightmarish maze, into which you are
> tossed when you press the backspace key if you are unlucky.)
I've noticed that many large programs suffer from the same problem,
which is too much information and no easy way to display it all. One
example is Miscroifit's website, on which I have great difficulty
finding anything relevant, even using their own search engine. But
Goolge will often find the appropriate page easily. Why is that? Also
with Emacs, once I get to the Emacs info screen, I choose the "Concept
Index" and work from there.
> Also, if you like Mac-like user interfaces, BBEdit has a Mac-like
> user interface, whereas emacs expects you to use it to give
> everything else in the universe an emacs-like user interface. So
> there's a pure matter of taste involved as well. I know a guy who
> basically does his entire job inside of one emacs window.
Emacs is a good operating system, but I wanted a text editor. Also,
I am still not frightened of BBEdit's power. Or should I say, POW-AH!!
--
ZER0-DAY WaReZ!!1!
http://www.mouse-potato.com ftp://ftp.mouse-potato.com
GIT UR wArEz HERE!
http://beable.com/
> ><http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/editors.mp3>
>
> Needs a brief, plinky guitar solo before the final repetition.
It is done.
My neighbor used to MUD from my computer and would think I was
kidding when I'd ask him to go do that somewhere else as I WANTED
TO GO TO SLEEP.
Not interesting or funny, but hey.
--
Chimes peal joy. Bah. Joseph Michael Bay
Icy colon barge Cancer Biology
Frosty divine Saturn Stanford University
www.stanford.edu/~jmbay/ fhqwhgadshgnsdhjsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf
> Matt McIrvin <mmci...@world.std.com> writes:
>
>>In article
>><CY6vb.72016$j1d....@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
>> "Tamara" <tamaraharris@rogers-removethis-.com> wrote:
>
>>> Jealous you say? Here...take her! Yesterday I woke up to find her
>>> standing beside the bed again. Now THAT really creeps me out! Do
>>> you have any idea what it is like to open your eyes and find your
>>> neighbour in your bedroom cheerfully greeting you with "Hi guys!
>>> Can I use your computer?" GAAAH!!
>
>>"AAHHH!! The nightmare came true and I'm back in college!"
>
>
> My neighbor used to MUD from my computer and would think I was
> kidding when I'd ask him to go do that somewhere else as I WANTED
> TO GO TO SLEEP.
>
> Not interesting or funny, but hey.
My best friend would hang out in my tiny dorm room and start playing
Civilization* on my PC while I was falling asleep. I would wake up the
next morning to him still playing. I told him to let himself out when he
was done as I usually had classes by 10:00.
Not interesting or funny either, but hey hey hey**.
-- Schwa ---
* - the original, unless you include the board game or a good chunk of
human history
** - The first "hey" sounds like Robert Smith said it. The second as said
by Fat Albert, followed by one sung by Michael Stipe.
Or you've been eating too many of those pork rinds that have the hairs
embedded inside them. What brand is that again? Oh, yeah, any brand!
> Regardless, it is O GROSS! The plumber pulled more hair out of my drain
> than I have on my head. EWWWW!
So when you assembled it, what sort of wig did you make?
> The 'new apartment' disaster tally so far --
>
> - Leaf mice
> - Oven leaf mice
> - House rain
> - Falling ceilings
> - Sonia's pots and pans
> - Hookers [1]
> - Scary, icky drain hair
>
> [1] Dan told me that I would make a killing around here, considering how
> disgustingly ugly the competition is. I need to invest in some new
> thigh-high fishnets and a sleazy pair of stilettos.
Since you're in Canada, you'd probably do even better if you could
combine "hooker" with "hockey" somehow to become the world's first
hocker. You could charge for things with names like "the full butterfly"
and, of course, "spearing" and "roughing".
A hocker outfit would be something like a sweater made from rainbow-
colored Saran Wrap, with a bright blue leaf on the front of it,
captioned "TORONTO HOT SEXS". Oh, and the fight strap would go
ALL OVER the place.
-- K.
Mike Myers would sleep
with you instantly.
Okay, maybe this was
a bad idea.
But still not as bad as
letting him crap all over
our treasured childhood
memories of Dr. Seuss.
I did this for a short while with the original Lode Runner, before I acquired
my original computer (an Apple ][e).
Dave
--
\/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
> My best friend would hang out in my tiny dorm room and start playing
> Civilization* on my PC while I was falling asleep. I would wake up the
> next morning to him still playing. I told him to let himself out when he
> was done as I usually had classes by 10:00.
There is a HUGE difference between letting your best friend hang out in your
room all night compared with simply finding your neighbour standing beside
your bed when you open your eyes in the morning.
We've since resorted to closing the hallway door when we're ready to go to
sleep. It is a hassle because we have to round up the cats (their litter
box is at the back end of the house) so we have to make sure they are all
here on this side before we close the door. That is not an easy task!
Another thing she's taken to doing now is locking herself out. Constantly.
Then ringing the doorbell over and over again until I let her in. I can't
just ignore the doorbell because it is one of those ear-piercing,
steady-ring kind and it startles me every time I hear it. She will just
lean on the bell until I let her in. She does this during the day while I'm
on the phone with clients. She does this at 11 at night when we're just
lazing around watching teevee and the shriek of the bell scares the bejeezus
out of us!
I've had a cold for the past few days and yesterday, I just wanted to stay
in bed and keep warm and snooze. Well, Sonia locked herself out again. She
rang the bell. I ignored it. She rang it four more times and then she
leaned on it for a good 30 seconds until I stomped down the stairs in my
jammies, saw her face pressed up against the frosted window and I yanked
open the door and glared at her, turned around and stomped back upstairs and
slammed the hallway door. I heard her giggle and say "I locked myself out
again! Hehee!"
She really is a very nice girl. Just not too bright.
~T
> Another thing she's taken to doing now is locking herself out. Constantly.
> Then ringing the doorbell over and over again until I let her in.
[...]
> Well, Sonia locked herself out again. She rang the bell. I ignored it.
> She rang it four more times and then she leaned on it for a good 30
> seconds until I stomped down the stairs in my jammies, saw her face
> pressed up against the frosted window and I yanked open the door and
> glared at her, turned around and stomped back upstairs and slammed the
> hallway door. I heard her giggle and say "I locked myself out again!
> Hehee!"
Splice a simple switch into the doorbell circuit. If possible, mount it
in a location visible to someone looking in the frosted window. Leave it
in the "on" position most of the time. Next time she leans on the bell,
walk out to the hallway, up to the door, flip the switch, turn around, and
go back to whatever you were doing.
> She really is a very nice girl. Just not too bright.
I am a petty girl^Wboy, and far too bright for my own good.
Have Fool 'accidentally' disconnect the doorbell.
>She really is a very nice girl. Just not too bright.
You're just rewarding her locked-herself-out behavior. Stop rewarding her by
letting her in, and she'll eventually stop doing it.
Dave "saw Dr Phil for the first time while doing laundry at the neighborhood
laundrymat last week" DeLaney
> "Schwa Love" <schw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns943E16ADF24s...@216.17.128.40...
>
>> My best friend would hang out in my tiny dorm room and start playing
>> Civilization* on my PC while I was falling asleep. I would wake up
>> the next morning to him still playing. I told him to let himself out
>> when he was done as I usually had classes by 10:00.
>
> There is a HUGE difference between letting your best friend hang out
> in your room all night compared with simply finding your neighbour
> standing beside your bed when you open your eyes in the morning.
Well, yeah. I was more following up to Joe's post along the lines of
people using your computer while you're trying to sleep.
It's probably more similar to when I was on the crapper one day and a
friend of mine decided to let himself into my home when I didn't answer the
doorbell. He called out for me and I told him I was in the bathroom, so he
decided to join me in there because he had important things to tell me,
such as he had a new name, was the long lost King of Ireland, was about to
hang some pirate flag on some buildings in Oklahoma, and that he saw things
a LOT more clearly now because the moon brought everything into balance
even the Yin was eating Yang or something.
That was six years ago. He got better. Then worse. Then better. Then
worse. Last I heard, he still thinks he's going to choose mates for people
so that he can breed elves since they've disappeared from the world, and he
lives in a van down by the river.
We don't really talk anymore, though there was a time many years ago that
he was a very close friend. I also lock my doors now, because I'm not a
trusting Canadian and don't know when Michael Moore and a camera crew are
going to come bursting into my house when I'm taking a shit and trying not
to think about elves, Ireland, or pirate flags.
> We've since resorted to closing the hallway door when we're ready to
> go to sleep. It is a hassle because we have to round up the cats
> (their litter box is at the back end of the house) so we have to make
> sure they are all here on this side before we close the door. That is
> not an easy task!
>
> Another thing she's taken to doing now is locking herself out.
> Constantly. Then ringing the doorbell over and over again until I let
> her in. I can't just ignore the doorbell because it is one of those
> ear-piercing, steady-ring kind and it startles me every time I hear
> it. She will just lean on the bell until I let her in. She does this
> during the day while I'm on the phone with clients. She does this at
> 11 at night when we're just lazing around watching teevee and the
> shriek of the bell scares the bejeezus out of us!
Perhaps safety pinning them to her jacket along with the mittens and
permission slips is the best solution. Or a door sized poster that says,
"I hope you have your keys, as I have pulled the fuse for the doorbell.
Broken windows cost $200." Or just got deadbolts that require a key on
either side (though they are unsafe during a fire) and lock the door from
the inside so that she has to use her key to leave... because everyone
loves buying locks and other fixer-uppers for places they're renting.
> I've had a cold for the past few days and yesterday, I just wanted to
> stay in bed and keep warm and snooze. Well, Sonia locked herself out
> again. She rang the bell. I ignored it. She rang it four more times
> and then she leaned on it for a good 30 seconds until I stomped down
> the stairs in my jammies, saw her face pressed up against the frosted
> window and I yanked open the door and glared at her, turned around and
> stomped back upstairs and slammed the hallway door. I heard her
> giggle and say "I locked myself out again! Hehee!"
I hope you have coughed or sneezed on many items of hers to share the fun,
as well as dumped Dr. Pepper all over her nice shiny Taco Bell. Once she
gets ill, go outside and ring the doorbell. When she comes to the door,
say, "I remembered my keys! He hee!" and then go to the store or post
office or Justice League Headquarters or wherever it is you go when you
leave the house.
-- Schwa ---
> Or just got deadbolts that require a key on either side (though they are
> unsafe during a fire) and lock the door from the inside so that she has
> to use her key to leave...
Unless the fire is REALLY SUPER HAWT I'd imagine that the deadbolts would
be perfectly safe during a fire.
[snip of weird people we know...]
> That was six years ago. He got better. Then worse. Then better. Then
> worse. Last I heard, he still thinks he's going to choose mates for
people
> so that he can breed elves since they've disappeared from the world...
That sounds a lot like my brother. Who, I might add, will be looking after
our flat and our cats while we are in Quebec this weekend.
> and he lives in a van down by the river.
Nope. Wrong guy. My brother lives with my mom. Pretty damn good
similarities, though. My brother at least *looks* like an elf so that might
help with the breeding process.
> We don't really talk anymore...
Neither do my brother and I. But hey, cat-sitting services are expensive.
I just make sure there are a few beers in the fridge and he takes care of
the kitties and cleans their litter tray and keeps them company for a bit
while he watches cable teevee. The cats seem to hide from him whenever he
is here, though. I know he's good with animals so it just might be the
stench of Jack Daniels that is turning them off.
Of course, we return home to no food in the ice box and his puke all over
the bathroom walls but that is a small price to pay.
~T (he's gonna hafta deal with Sonia this weekend! BWAAAHAHAHA!)
> "Schwa Love" <schw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns944098CF181BF...@216.17.128.40...
>
> [snip of weird people we know...]
>
>> That was six years ago. He got better. Then worse. Then better.
>> Then worse. Last I heard, he still thinks he's going to choose mates
>> for
> people
>> so that he can breed elves since they've disappeared from the
>> world...
>
> That sounds a lot like my brother. Who, I might add, will be looking
> after our flat and our cats while we are in Quebec this weekend.
The guy I'm talking about doesn't know where my current home is, which is
fine by me, especially since in his more wacky moments he has put
chokeholds on his then-girlfriend, got into swordfights, and demanded to be
shot by one of his friend's shotguns (which was pointed at him at the time)
in order to prove he was immortal. He's also done worse things, but as
this is a family-oriented chat room, I will refrain from mentioning them
here.
At any rate, I don't think I could call on him for cat-sitting services.
Where's your brother live?
>> and he lives in a van down by the river.
>
> Nope. Wrong guy. My brother lives with my mom. Pretty damn good
> similarities, though. My brother at least *looks* like an elf so that
> might help with the breeding process.
Well, so does my former friend, or at least he thinks he does. He's also
convinced that he's going to live to be a thousand years old since
(according to him) he hasn't visibly aged in the last ten years. And I'm
sure living in a van down by the river is better than sleeping in a giant
freezer bag filled with Oil of Olay.
>> We don't really talk anymore...
>
> Neither do my brother and I. But hey, cat-sitting services are
> expensive. I just make sure there are a few beers in the fridge and he
> takes care of the kitties and cleans their litter tray and keeps them
> company for a bit while he watches cable teevee. The cats seem to
> hide from him whenever he is here, though. I know he's good with
> animals so it just might be the stench of Jack Daniels that is turning
> them off.
>
> Of course, we return home to no food in the ice box and his puke all
> over the bathroom walls but that is a small price to pay.
Maybe it's not just the stench of Jack Daniels turning them off.
-- Schwa ---
<snip elf breeding tales and etc etc>
> Neither do my brother and I. But hey, cat-sitting services are
> expensive. I just make sure there are a few beers in the fridge and he
> takes care of the kitties and cleans their litter tray and keeps them
> company for a bit while he watches cable teevee. The cats seem to
> hide from him whenever he is here, though. I know he's good with
> animals so it just might be the stench of Jack Daniels that is turning
> them off.
>
> Of course, we return home to no food in the ice box and his puke all
> over the bathroom walls but that is a small price to pay.
>
> ~T (he's gonna hafta deal with Sonia this weekend! BWAAAHAHAHA!)
What if he and Sonia fall madly in love and he winds up moving in? How
great a plan is this then? She sounds like someone who might like drunk
smelling guys, girls who are desperate for attention often are ya know.
Even worse he might recruit her into elf breeding duty and then you'll
have a whole house full of short ugly people who drop stuff down the
stairs and sneak into your bedroom while you sleep, plus drink all your
booze. OTOH that is starting to sound like some midget arkple, so maybe
you're into that kinda thing..........
-Con
IFYPFY. You'll thank me later. You might also consider a brick-loaded
keychain that you can heave out the window from upstairs.
"It's not the size of the boat, it's Matt McIrvin" -- Joe
ŹR / http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/ny2001.html / Manfre
BEST LOTS42 POST EVAR!11!!!
ŹR "As long as men keep thinking with their dicks,
women will keep fucking with their heads." --TarlaStar
Well, we just got home and, thankfully, there are no stray elves running
around. Cats seem fine. Actually very happy to see us. My butt hurts from
sitting on a bus for 5 hours but other than that, all is well. I scored big
time this weekend but not in that way...I got two new printers from Fool's
dad and he also has a scanner for me which I will pick up when we go back to
Quebec in a couple of weeks. Mommy Fool gave me a whole bunch of cosmetic
products and a new pair of slippers. Plus we got a whack of food-stuff
care-packages. Geeez...you'd think it was Hmas or something!
November 30th was my sister's 57th birthday. Our options were to return
home early to spend the time with *my* dysfunctional family or to stay with
the Fool Clan and actually have a guilt-free weekend filled with too much
booze and too much food. I might wake up hungover and a wee bit pudgier,
but without any emotional scars. YAY!
~T (uh slee...)
> On 27 Nov 2003 22:10:43 GMT, Schwa Love <schw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>doorbell. He called out for me and I told him I was in the bathroom,
>>so he decided to join me in there because he had important things to
>>tell me, such as he had a new name, was the long lost King of Ireland,
>>was about to hang some pirate flag on some buildings in Oklahoma, and
>>that he saw things
>
> BEST LOTS42 POST EVAR!11!!!
Well, he is stalking me, as I did find a beer can outside my house one
time.
-- Schwa ---
I guess we'll just have to imagine all the great ranting posts that would
have caused. Oh well, maybe next time. }:-)>
-Con