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Lots42

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Feb 3, 2010, 12:32:55 AM2/3/10
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Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
stories then not.

Bill Marcum

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Feb 3, 2010, 1:52:35 AM2/3/10
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On 2010-02-03, Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> stories then not.

I like them all. TNG is the only one I can watch now, it's on at midnight
every weeknight on the local WB (or CW or whatever they call it now) station.

David DeLaney

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Feb 2, 2010, 9:13:34 PM2/2/10
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I liked the James Blish series more than the Alan Dean Foster ones.

Dave
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Bryce Utting

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Feb 3, 2010, 5:17:20 AM2/3/10
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Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> stories then not.

o-or, discuss: best theme music? Dr Who, the 1985 Edge of Darkness,
or the Bond series.


butting (only has one on vinyl)

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Lots42

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Feb 3, 2010, 6:25:53 AM2/3/10
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TNG had lots of awesome, but they dropped the ball way too many
times.

They should have had the 'Enterprise' be the least popular ship in the
fleet, sent to the cruddy assignments and staffed with the 'losers' of
the highly trained Federation.

Lots42

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Feb 3, 2010, 6:26:33 AM2/3/10
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On Feb 3, 6:17 am, Bryce Utting <butt...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> > stories then not.
>
> o-or, discuss: best theme music?  Dr Who, the 1985 Edge of Darkness,
> or the Bond series.
>
> butting (only has one on vinyl)
>
> --http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting

>   A telegram from Brighton I've just read
>   That Rosencrantz and Guildenstern... are wed!
>       -- Verity Stob

Out of all of the Bond movies I have seen, none have had tolerable
theme music. It is as if someone was electrocuting ducks.

Bryce Utting

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Feb 3, 2010, 6:52:49 AM2/3/10
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Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> o-or, discuss: best theme music? Dr Who, the 1985 Edge of Darkness,
>> or the Bond series.
>
> Out of all of the Bond movies I have seen, none have had tolerable
> theme music. It is as if someone was electrocuting ducks.

*raises eyebrows*

one of the things that *especially* impressed me about Casino Royale
was the score, particularly:

1. the low-key scoring -- and fantastic sound design -- of the car
chase, and:

2. holding off the horn sting of the theme (a stunning couple of
bars of music) until the very end of the film: "Bond. James
Bond." / cut to black / WHA-DAH *BOOM* WHA-DAH *BOOM* WHA-DAH-
DA-DA-DAH!

Casino Royale and both versions of Edge of Darkness were helmed by
Martin Campbell, note. the theme, score -- and sound design -- of the
1985 EoD are all absurdly, ridiculously good. and in 2010? score by
Howard Shore. sigh.


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Adam Funk

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Feb 3, 2010, 8:12:21 AM2/3/10
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On 2010-02-03, Bryce Utting wrote:

> one of the things that *especially* impressed me about Casino Royale
> was the score, particularly:
>
> 1. the low-key scoring -- and fantastic sound design -- of the car
> chase, and:
>
> 2. holding off the horn sting of the theme (a stunning couple of
> bars of music) until the very end of the film: "Bond. James
> Bond." / cut to black / WHA-DAH *BOOM* WHA-DAH *BOOM* WHA-DAH-
> DA-DA-DAH!


I didn't notice any of that, but I liked Burt Bacharach's ditties.


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Adam Funk

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Feb 3, 2010, 8:18:39 AM2/3/10
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On 2010-02-03, Lots42 wrote:

> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> stories then not.

I've only been a fan of classic Trek.

I really wish they had made the "Assignment: Earth" spin-off series.


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Feb 3, 2010, 8:39:53 AM2/3/10
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 03:25:53 -0800 (PST), Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Feb 3, 2:52�am, Bill Marcum <marcumb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On 2010-02-03, Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
>> > stories then not.
>>
>> I like them all. TNG is the only one I can watch now, it's on at midnight
>> every weeknight on the local WB (or CW or whatever they call it now) station.
>
>TNG had lots of awesome, but they dropped the ball way too many
>times.

I thought TNG was really good until the final season, when it had too
many episodes that were too complicated and didn't add up to anything
interesting or comprehensible.

BW

Doctroid

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Feb 3, 2010, 9:15:31 AM2/3/10
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In article
<a4bca278-a115-42cc...@36g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> stories then not.

Galaxy Quest.

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Otto Bahn

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Feb 3, 2010, 10:02:01 AM2/3/10
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"Bryce Utting" <but...@ihug.co.nz> wrote

>>> o-or, discuss: best theme music? Dr Who, the 1985 Edge of Darkness,
>>> or the Bond series.
>>
>> Out of all of the Bond movies I have seen, none have had tolerable
>> theme music. It is as if someone was electrocuting ducks.
>
> *raises eyebrows*
>
> one of the things that *especially* impressed me about Casino Royale
> was the score, particularly:
>
> 1. the low-key scoring -- and fantastic sound design -- of the car
> chase, and:

The poker scene damn near ruined it for me.

--oTTo--


JimboCat

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Feb 3, 2010, 12:54:42 PM2/3/10
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On Feb 3, 12:32 am, Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> stories then not.

Voyager? Yuck. Not enough Space Nazis!
They did have Space Dinosaurs, though: gotta givem that.
TNG: too goody-goody.
TOS: Cowboys in Spaaaace!
Enterprise: WTF? Lotsa good Space Nazis, though.
DS9 has to be my flavorite, despite its overwhelming bagfuls of
awescum.

Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
--
"Pirates? Nonsense! We're Preemptive Nautical Salvage Specialists."

Lots42

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Feb 3, 2010, 1:22:00 PM2/3/10
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On Feb 3, 7:52 am, Bryce Utting <butt...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> o-or, discuss: best theme music? Dr Who, the 1985 Edge of Darkness,
> >> or the Bond series.
>
> > Out of all of the Bond movies I have seen, none have had tolerable
> > theme music. It is as if someone was electrocuting ducks.
>
> *raises eyebrows*
>
> one of the things that *especially* impressed me about Casino Royale
> was the score, particularly:

Score? I thought we were talking about the music they play during the
opening credits. And Hasn't see Casino.

Bryce Utting

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Feb 3, 2010, 4:26:41 PM2/3/10
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Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>> one of the things that *especially* impressed me about Casino Royale
>> was the score, particularly:
>>
>> 1. the low-key scoring -- and fantastic sound design -- of the car
>> chase, and:
>>
>> 2. holding off the horn sting of the theme (a stunning couple of
>> bars of music) until the very end of the film: "Bond. James
>> Bond." / cut to black / WHA-DAH *BOOM* WHA-DAH *BOOM* WHA-DAH-
>> DA-DA-DAH!
>
>
> I didn't notice any of that, but I liked Burt Bacharach's ditties.

but there's no 's' in 'Burt Bacharach'.


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Doctroid

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Feb 3, 2010, 4:33:39 PM2/3/10
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In article <hkcpmg$9hv$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
Bryce Utting <but...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> > I didn't notice any of that, but I liked Burt Bacharach's ditties.
>
> but there's no 's' in 'Burt Bacharach'.

PLEASE KEEP IT THAT WAY!

Dr. HotSalt

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Feb 3, 2010, 4:54:50 PM2/3/10
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On Feb 3, 9:54 am, JimboCat <103134.3...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 12:32 am, Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> > stories then not.
>
> Voyager? Yuck. Not enough Space Nazis!

Some good candidates though; I just wish they'd have stuck with one
or t'other. Except of course they'd have to be retconned out of TOS
etc.

> They did have Space Dinosaurs, though: gotta givem that.
> TNG: too goody-goody.

I think a lot of that is reactionary-ism to the "grittiness" of Star
Wars. OTOH they played Klingons as Bikers In Space!

> TOS: Cowboys in Spaaaace!
> Enterprise: WTF? Lotsa good Space Nazis, though.

Hell, they had REAL Nazis!

> DS9 has to be my flavorite, despite its overwhelming bagfuls of
> awescum.

It had many good points, though I hated the arc that got Quark's
nephew's limb blowed off.

> Jim Deutch (JimboCat)

Wow, I knew you from r.a.sf.w. and r.a.sf.s, but I never knew you
were a kibologist!

> "Pirates?  Nonsense!  We're Preemptive Nautical Salvage Specialists."

A line John Cleese *should* have spoken, somewhere, somewhen...


Dr. HotSalt

madge

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Feb 3, 2010, 5:33:31 PM2/3/10
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:32:55 -0000, Lots42 <lot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
> stories then not.

The one where they all lived onna farm and had animals and, where whatever
happened, at the end of the day they were polite to each other and said
goodnight.

Strange there was never any aliens though!

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David DeLaney

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Feb 4, 2010, 12:48:02 AM2/4/10
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Dr. HotSalt <alie...@gmail.com> wrote:

>JimboCat <103134.3...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
>
> Wow, I knew you from r.a.sf.w. and r.a.sf.s, but I never knew you
>were a kibologist!

Yes. Yes, you did.

Dave "elementary, my dear Xibo" DeLaney

Bryce Utting

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Feb 4, 2010, 1:06:49 AM2/4/10
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madge <deletethisbit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Which Star Trek series is your favorite? I like Voyager. More good
>> stories then not.
>
> The one where they all lived onna farm and had animals and, where whatever
> happened, at the end of the day they were polite to each other and said
> goodnight.
>
> Strange there was never any aliens though!

huh? since when was John-Boy not an alien?


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Dr. HotSalt

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Feb 4, 2010, 4:42:23 AM2/4/10
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On Feb 3, 9:48 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:

> Dr. HotSalt <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >JimboCat <103134.3...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> >> Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
>
> >  Wow, I knew you from r.a.sf.w. and r.a.sf.s, but I never knew you
> >were a kibologist!
>
> Yes. Yes, you did.

I did?

Back to checking what I think is "sense" before posting...

> Dave "elementary, my dear Xibo" DeLaney

Lessee, that's Xi, element 224 +42i...

JiCa must therefore be an alloy of Jimbonium, element 442 + 42i and
whatever cats are made of.

What are his properties?


Dr. HotSalt

Otto Bahn

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Feb 4, 2010, 9:46:52 AM2/4/10
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"Thomas Mertz" <t...@example.com> wrote

> How bout the liquor scene?

Liquor? Hardly knew 'er!

--oTTo--


David DeLaney

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Feb 4, 2010, 9:56:02 AM2/4/10
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Dr. HotSalt <alie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 3, 9:48�pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>> Dr. HotSalt <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >JimboCat <103134.3...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> >> Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
>>
>> > �Wow, I knew you from r.a.sf.w. and r.a.sf.s, but I never knew you
>> >were a kibologist!
>>
>> Yes. Yes, you did.
>
> I did?

(upside-down A x)(x are kibologists) > (J is a kibologist) == T

>> Dave "elementary, my dear Xibo" DeLaney
>
> Lessee, that's Xi, element 224 +42i...
>
> JiCa must therefore be an alloy of Jimbonium, element 442 + 42i and
>whatever cats are made of.

sounds... unarguable.

> What are his properties?

Boardwalk and Marvin Gardens. As usual.

Dave

Mark Edwards

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Feb 4, 2010, 10:59:16 AM2/4/10
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[Casino Royale]

It was written:


>>> The poker scene damn near ruined it for me.

Was it because they poker in the front, and liquor in the rear?


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Adam Funk

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Feb 4, 2010, 2:33:54 PM2/4/10
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On 2010-02-03, Dr. HotSalt wrote:

> I think a lot of that is reactionary-ism to the "grittiness" of Star
> Wars. OTOH they played Klingons as Bikers In Space!


http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main/

In teaching us how to distinguish good from evil, Lucas prescribes
judging by looks: Villains wear Nazi helmets. They hiss and leer,
or have red-glowing eyes, like in a Ralph Bakshi cartoon. On the
other hand, "Star Trek" tales often warn against judging a book by
its cover -- a message you'll also find in the films of Steven
Spielberg, whose spunky everyman characters delight in reversing
expectations and asking irksome questions.

Above all, "Star Trek" generally depicts heroes who are only about
10 times as brilliant, noble and heroic as a normal person,
prevailing through cooperation and wit, rather than because of some
inherited godlike transcendent greatness. Characters who do achieve
godlike powers are subjected to ruthless scrutiny. In other words,
"Trek" is a prototypically American dream, entranced by notions of
human improvement and a progress that lifts all. Gene Roddenberry's
vision loves heroes, but it breaks away from the elitist tradition
of princes and wizards who rule by divine or mystical right.

By contrast, these are the only heroes in the "Star Wars" universe.

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JimboCat

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Feb 5, 2010, 9:48:44 AM2/5/10
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On Feb 3, 4:54 pm, "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   Wow, I knew you from r.a.sf.w. and r.a.sf.s, but I never knew you
> were a kibologist!
>
> > "Pirates?  Nonsense!  We're Preemptive Nautical Salvage Specialists."
>
>   A line John Cleese *should* have spoken, somewhere, somewhen...
>
>   Dr. HotSalt

And, for my part, I never did any kind of cross-check (which is not
made easy by googlegropes, anyway) and totally FAIL!ed to realize that
Dr. HotScald was a meerp nom-de-moouse for the well-known <redacted>.
Kewl!

The quote is one of the few-to-many in my unpeccably-maintained .sig
file with totally MISS!ing attribution. Maybe John Cleese DID say it.
(Did I ever mention that I have a carbon copy of a typwritten talk/
speech-type thingy with a couple actual hand-written markups by the
very hand of Cleese myself in my very own possession? I stole^W
rescued it from a cardboard box overflowing with all sorts of cruft in
a tiny basement room next to a genuine, real-dead-bodies-in-there
crypt. Yes: CRYPT! And that's no code word, bro: I am a god. Minus the
god-like powers, of course.)

Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
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Dr. HotSalt

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Feb 6, 2010, 4:56:02 AM2/6/10
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On Feb 5, 6:48 am, JimboCat <103134.3...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 4:54 pm, "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   Wow, I knew you from r.a.sf.w. and r.a.sf.s, but I never knew you
> > were a kibologist!
>
> > > "Pirates?  Nonsense!  We're Preemptive Nautical Salvage Specialists."
>
> >   A line John Cleese *should* have spoken, somewhere, somewhen...
>
> And, for my part, I never did any kind of cross-check (which is not
> made easy by googlegropes, anyway) and totally FAIL!ed to realize that
> Dr. HotScald was a meerp nom-de-moouse for the well-known <redacted>.
> Kewl!

I was *hoping* for infamous. Or maybe infandous. Oh, well.

Also, most arkians know my Real Name (those with functioning
memories do, anyway); they should, some watched me earn my one and
only ever nym.

> The quote is one of the few-to-many in my unpeccably-maintained .sig
> file with totally MISS!ing attribution. Maybe John Cleese DID say it.

Go ogling the phrase (not "the phrase") points only to a
Demotivational poster and your sig.

BTW I quite enjoyed the discussion re: dwarven electroplating tech.

> (Did I ever mention that I have a carbon copy of a typwritten talk/
> speech-type thingy with a couple actual hand-written markups by the
> very hand of Cleese myself in my very own possession? I stole^W
> rescued it from a cardboard box overflowing with all sorts of cruft in
> a tiny basement room next to a genuine, real-dead-bodies-in-there
> crypt. Yes: CRYPT! And that's no code word, bro: I am a god. Minus the
> god-like powers, of course.)

Frf. You should try to get him to sign it while he's still
breathing. Unless he decides he wants it back...

> "Google: Replacing Your Brain Since 1998." -- Michael Ash

Sure, *that* one you have an attribution for. Not that it's
appropriate or anything.


Dr. HotSalt

The Wizard of Berkeley

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Feb 6, 2010, 11:18:50 AM2/6/10
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Disagree. Star Wars: A New Hope is all about the heroes using
innovation to escape, like when they bust into a sewer.

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