G O D
Lots42 The Library Avenger
Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
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Karlo X
news:20040826221451...@mb-m15.aol.com:
> For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name.
> G O D. Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
There's an old Jewish tradition, mostly among the Orthodox, that one
does not spell out the name of G_d except in the Torah or prayer books.
In a letter or newspaper, something that might be eventually discarded,
one uses the Wheel of Fortune version: G_d. I was never really clear on
the rationale behind this, but I think it's sort of a Kabbalistic thing,
where the Word is a manifestation of the Lord.
I recall something from my days in Jew school, about the scribes who
make the scrolls of the Torah having to take a ritual bath before writing
the name of God. Since Her name appears about 125,000 times in the Five
Books of Moshe, those are some clean motherfucking scribes.
And then there's the whole Yahweh thing: you're not supposed to say that
name EVAR! There are all of these synonyms: the Lord, Adonoi, Elohim, etc.
It all comes from the ancient Jabiru, who called God "He Who Must Not Be
Named". What the fuck, we're worshipping Beetlejuice?
This doesn't explain John_-_Winston's usage of G_d, as he does this with
place names and government agencies, too (C_A, N_SA, M__nt Sh_sta). Maybe
his tin foil hat is too tight.
Oh, and God doesn't grep. God *is* grep.
k., the best thing about being Jewish is having a cool looking penis.
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TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42 The Library Avenger) wrote in
> news:20040826221451...@mb-m15.aol.com:
>
>> For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name.
>> G O D. Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
>
> There's an old Jewish tradition, mostly among the Orthodox, that one
> does not spell out the name of G_d except in the Torah or prayer books.
> In a letter or newspaper, something that might be eventually discarded,
> one uses the Wheel of Fortune version: G_d. I was never really clear on
There is no such metric as G subscript d. Where did you get your
license to do relativity? A weetbix box?
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David DeLaney
>For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name. G O D.
>Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
Of course he does - he invented the concept!
Dave "you're posting WHERE now?" DeLaney
PS: John_-_ is Allowed to try to hide from God if John_-_ wants to.
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TimC wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 at 03:35 GMT, Karlo X (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
>>lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42 The Library Avenger) wrote in
>>news:20040826221451...@mb-m15.aol.com:
>>
>>
>>>For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name.
>>>G O D. Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
>>
>>There's an old Jewish tradition, mostly among the Orthodox, that one
>>does not spell out the name of G_d except in the Torah or prayer books.
>>In a letter or newspaper, something that might be eventually discarded,
>>one uses the Wheel of Fortune version: G_d. I was never really clear on
>
>
> There is no such metric as G subscript d. Where did you get your
> license to do relativity? A weetbix box?
I suspect [Hammond] hands out that license.
James Kibo Parry
>
> Lots42 The Library Avenger (lot...@aol.comaol.com) wrote:
> >
> > For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name.
> > G O D. Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
>
> There's an old Jewish tradition, mostly among the Orthodox, that one
> does not spell out the name of G_d except in the Torah or prayer books.
> In a letter or newspaper, something that might be eventually discarded,
> one uses the Wheel of Fortune version: G_d.
I think in Israel it's "Dreidel of Fortune". And every episode opens
with Alan Thicke singing the dreidel song.
> Oh, and God doesn't grep. God *is* grep.
Then who is "kill -9"?
> k., the best thing about being Jewish is having a cool looking penis.
The best thing about being Jewish is being smug about not knowing that
most American gentiles are circumcised, too.
And because most men are circumcised, they're fascinated by the sight
of an uncut penis, which makes those cool through rarity as opposed
to the others which are cool through stylish sculpting.
Currently about 60% of newborn American boys are cicumcised, the
number's been going down as we gradually lose faith in the Victorian
belief that it would keep boys from masturbating if they wouldn't have
to spend as much time cleaning it.
-- K.
A 1997 study claimed, "circumcised men were
40 percent more likely than non-circumcised men
to masturbate at least once a month." Either
that or uncircumcised men are 40% more likely
to be liars.
crgr
> For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name.
> G O D. Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
Quit search-engine-bombing G-d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark South
news:kibo-27080...@10.0.1.2...
> Karlo X (kta...@artcrime.com) wrote:
> > Oh, and God doesn't grep. God *is* grep.
>
> Then who is "kill -9"?
I'll take that job on if it isn't already spoken for.
With pleasure. Make that profound pleasure.
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Mark South
news:slrn-0.9.7.4-24175-...@hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au...
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 at 03:35 GMT, Karlo X (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> > lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42 The Library Avenger) wrote in
> > news:20040826221451...@mb-m15.aol.com:
> >
> >> For GOD's sake, God isn't going to kill you if you spell out his name.
> >> G O D. Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
> >
> > There's an old Jewish tradition, mostly among the Orthodox, that one
> > does not spell out the name of G_d except in the Torah or prayer books.
> > In a letter or newspaper, something that might be eventually discarded,
> > one uses the Wheel of Fortune version: G_d. I was never really clear on
>
> There is no such metric as G subscript d. Where did you get your
> license to do relativity? A weetbix box?
A dog ate half his homework.
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> number's been going down as we gradually lose faith in the Victorian
> belief that it would keep boys from masturbating if they wouldn't have
Probably related to religion to. It always scares me that 60% of
Americans are religious nutters :)
> to spend as much time cleaning it.
"cleaning".
> A 1997 study claimed, "circumcised men were
> 40 percent more likely than non-circumcised men
> to masturbate at least once a month." Either
> that or uncircumcised men are 40% more likely
> to be liars.
I've the best of both worlds. Not circumsized, and no ugly flap that
needs "cleaning". I "clean" it regularly anyway.
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Lots42 The Library Avenger
>And then there's the whole Yahweh thing: you're not supposed to say that
>name EVAR! There are all of these synonyms: the Lord, Adonoi, Elohim, etc.
>It all comes from the ancient Jabiru, who called God "He Who Must Not Be
>Named". What the fuck, we're worshipping Beetlejuice?
Hah hah it's old school refs!
Kids these days would say 'What the fuck, we're worshipping Voldemort?'
>k., the best thing about being Jewish is having a cool looking penis.
The best thing about not belonging to any religion whatsoever is sleeping in on
Sundays.
Lots42 The Library Avenger
>
>And because most men are circumcised, they're fascinated by the sight
>of an uncut penis,
I don't know about you, but if a Jewish male offered to show me his uncut
penile organ, I would decline
Lots42 The Library Avenger
>> 40 percent more likely than non-circumcised men
>> to masturbate at least once a month." Either
>> that or uncircumcised men are 40% more likely
>> to be liars.
>
Were any males at all on this study?
Rich Holmes
> Currently about 60% of newborn American boys are cicumcised, the
> number's been going down as we gradually lose faith in the Victorian
> belief that it would keep boys from masturbating if they wouldn't have
> to spend as much time cleaning it.
At least in Virginia, at least in Newport News, at least at Riverside
Hospital, it's surprisingly difficult to get a newborn male child out
the door intact.
Not actually difficult in any absolute sense, but more difficult than
I would have thought. I'd've thought you'd just have to tell them,
possibly in writing, "no circumcision", and they'd attach a note to
his crib and write "NO" on his foreskin with a Sharpie, and that'd be
that. But no, there was a succession of nurses who had to have it
explained to him that the reason he hadn't been circumcised yet was
because he wasn't going to be circumcised, period, and we really did
want to take the WHOLE BABY home. Well, except for the meconium and
so forth. And the placenta, we let them keep that for a souvenir.
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cold, empty pile of clothes." -- James "Kibo" Parry
Glitter Ninja
>> Currently about 60% of newborn American boys are cicumcised, the
>> number's been going down as we gradually lose faith in the Victorian
>> belief that it would keep boys from masturbating if they wouldn't have
>> to spend as much time cleaning it.
>At least in Virginia, at least in Newport News, at least at Riverside
>Hospital, it's surprisingly difficult to get a newborn male child out
>the door intact.
The whole issue is teh suck because the parents have to decide for the
child, and who knows, when they get older maybe they wish they were
cut/intact and they disagree with the parent's decision. And by the time
a male is old enough to decide for themselves if they want to be intact or
not, the procedure is painful.
It's kind of like names, except you can't go to a judge and pay $20 to
get your penis legally changed to Elvis Presley MacGillicuddy.
Stacia * sta...@xmission.com * The Glitter Ninja
Cthulhu for President 2004! Why settle for a lesser evil?
rone
>Why do people spell it with blanks? Does God grep?
It's one of those crazy "taking his name in vain" things. You can
only use his name if he owes you money.
rone
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With a hammer in his hand
rone
>>And then there's the whole Yahweh thing: you're not supposed to say that
>>name EVAR! There are all of these synonyms: the Lord, Adonoi, Elohim, etc.
>>It all comes from the ancient Jabiru, who called God "He Who Must Not Be
>>Named". What the fuck, we're worshipping Beetlejuice?
>Hah hah it's old school refs!
>Kids these days would say 'What the fuck, we're worshipping Voldemort?'
I was going to say Hastur, because Lovecraft is a much better HP than
JK Rowling's.
Marc Goodman
> But no, there was a succession of nurses who had to have it
> explained to him
This is like that StarTrek:tOS episode where there
are like 85 copies of the same librarian running around
and Spock gets it on with a Hawt Chi><0rz and eats
kabobs, right?
Dr. Otto Bahn
> >> Currently about 60% of newborn American boys are cicumcised, the
> >> number's been going down as we gradually lose faith in the Victorian
> >> belief that it would keep boys from masturbating if they wouldn't have
> >> to spend as much time cleaning it.
>
> >At least in Virginia, at least in Newport News, at least at Riverside
> >Hospital, it's surprisingly difficult to get a newborn male child out
> >the door intact.
But shorten it just the teeniest bit, and they can
squeeze on through.
> The whole issue is teh suck because the parents have to decide for the
> child, and who knows, when they get older maybe they wish they were
> cut/intact and they disagree with the parent's decision. And by the time
> a male is old enough to decide for themselves if they want to be intact or
> not, the procedure is painful.
Thank your lucky stars you weren't born in Sudan
> It's kind of like names, except you can't go to a judge and pay $20 to
> get your penis legally changed to Elvis Presley MacGillicuddy.
Well, for about 1000 times that amount, a guy can
have his penis turned into a vagina and take home
his balls in a jar of formaldehyde. At which point a
name change would be appropriate.
--oTTo--
Mark South
news:u4wtzkx...@mep1.phy.syr.edu...
> And the placenta, we let them keep that for making into cosmetics.
IFYPFY.
Joseph Michael Bay
>On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 at 05:43 GMT, James "Kibo" Parry (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> Currently about 60% of newborn American boys are cicumcised, the
>> number's been going down as we gradually lose faith in the Victorian
>> belief that it would keep boys from masturbating if they wouldn't have
>Probably related to religion to. It always scares me that 60% of
>Americans are religious nutters :)
I think cirucmcision in the US is pretty much secular tradition,
actually. Although there are a heck of a lot of religious nutters here.
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Dr. Otto Bahn
> A 1997 study claimed, "circumcised men were
> 40 percent more likely than non-circumcised men
> to masturbate at least once a month." Either
> that or uncircumcised men are 40% more likely
> to be liars.
Maybe uncircumcized men enjoy sex that much more
than masturbation. If that's the reason, then I
no longer view circumcision as borderline criminal.
Instead circumcision would be a crime against
humanity, responsible for hundreds of millions
of deaths in the wars that man has waged this
century.
In the old days, back when Achilles was limping
about Troy and Remus was eyeing Romulus, part of
the reason you went to war was to TAKE TEH WIMMINS,
seeing as half of yours had died in childbirth
at some point or another. War was a method of
balancing the male/female ratio. What good is
a snotty little brat if you can't do the mother?
Now we have a different type of imbalance, where
sex isn't enjoyable enough, and therefore people
are dumb enough to RISK THEIR PENIS in the name
"Freedom" and "Oil". That's fucked up. You want
a fight? Go get pussy whipped, you castrated
fighting machine. Those muscles would be better
served stuffin' Martha's muffins if you had any
goddamn balls.
YOU GUESSED IT -- THE ONLY THING WORTH RISKING
YOUR PENIS OVER IS PUSSY. Or maybe a purty mouth,
but you get the picture.
Oh, fuck humanity. I did one quick study and
90% of people suck liek a Hoover. They range
from merely being an annoying waste of my time
to a seriously fucked-up inconvenience. Everytime
a soldier drops in Iraq, the rest of us guys have
that much better of a chance at getting laid.
MORE WAR! LOUNGE LIZARDS DEPEND ON IT!
I think I'll go develop a WMD that only targets
men. Maybe Kibo can help with the gaydar. It
would be a shame to kill innocent queers.
In other news, why would a neighbor that I barely
know go out of her way to tell me about her husband's
prostate? If any of you guys are lonely, I think
I can set you up.
--oTTo--
Dr. Otto Bahn
> I think cirucmcision in the US is pretty much secular tradition,
> actually.
Actually it's a right-wing conspiracy to keep the country
supplied with soldiers -- dumb, desensitized brutes who
don't enjoy sex enough to see the stupidity of war.
> Although there are a heck of a lot of religious nutters here.
Their only redeeming feature is that they are easily conned.
--oTTo--
Karlo X
> And the placenta, we let them keep that for a souvenir.
Actually, if Sodexho provides food services at that hospital...
k.
Karlo X
27080401...@10.0.1.2:
> Karlo X (kta...@artcrime.com) wrote:
>> Oh, and God doesn't grep. God *is* grep.
>
> Then who is "kill -9"?
I am become Shiva, destroyer of processes.
k.
technomaNge
I'm so ashamed. All I could think of to name mine was Dick.
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> "James "Kibo" Parry" <ki...@world.std.com> wrote in message
> news:kibo-27080...@10.0.1.2...
>
>>Karlo X (kta...@artcrime.com) wrote:
>
>
>>> Oh, and God doesn't grep. God *is* grep.
>>
>>Then who is "kill -9"?
>
>
> I'll take that job on if it isn't already spoken for.
>
> With pleasure. Make that profound pleasure.
I want to be kill -28.
Your window size is changing! Your window size is changing!
Mark Hill
> "Joseph Michael Bay" <jm...@Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>
>
>>I think cirucmcision in the US is pretty much secular tradition,
>>actually.
>
>
> Actually it's a right-wing conspiracy to keep the country
> supplied with soldiers -- dumb, desensitized brutes who
> don't enjoy sex enough to see the stupidity of war.
Yeah, because everyone knows that circumcised men don't enjoy sex.
Lots42 The Library Avenger
>This is like that StarTrek:tOS episode where there
>are like 85 copies of the same librarian running around
>and Spock gets it on with a Hawt Chi><0rz and eats
>kabobs, right?
>
No, that's the Star Trek: Tos category of fanfiction.net.
Lots42 The Library Avenger
>
>I was going to say Hastur, because Lovecraft is a much better HP than
>JK Rowling's.
>
>rone
Lovecraft is a much better Harry Potter?
"Mr. Potter, do you know why Professor Snape has gone insane and torn his
eyeballs out?"
"I...I don't know, Dumbledore! All I did was show him the face of an Elder God.
And then he just went nuts and ate Ron."
"He ATE Ron?"
"Oh, sorry, I thought the other kids told you."
"What other kids?"
"Aw, crap."
Hong Ooi
Avenger) wrote:
>>>Kids these days would say 'What the fuck, we're worshipping Voldemort?'
>>
>>I was going to say Hastur, because Lovecraft is a much better HP than
>>JK Rowling's.
>>
>>rone
>
>Lovecraft is a much better Harry Potter?
>
No, Lovecraft is a much better Hewlett-Paqard. Duh.
What has the newsgroup come to these days?
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[Snips]
> What has the newsgroup come to these days?
The Dow is quoting it as twenty dollars, SAIT.
Thus will it come to pass that Hnefatafl, the Mystical Norse Bag
of Obviousness, will come to cover the whole of Midgaard, a sure
sign that it is getting on for Fimbulwinter.
All the best,
John.
Poot Rootbeer
>
> Yeah, because everyone knows that circumcised men don't enjoy sex.
They think they do but they don't really.
-Poot
Mark South
news:Xns95538C8A3E8...@216.196.97.136...
> Mark Hill <mh...@epicentre.net> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, because everyone knows that circumcised men don't enjoy sex.
>
> They think they do but they don't really.
Even now the technology does not exist to perform an objective comparison.
Other than letting some guy have sex before and after the SNIP.
Of course, the excruciating pain afterwards tends to skew the results in a way
that's hard to calibrate.
--
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James Kibo Parry
>
> Poot Rootbeer (po...@dork.com) wrote:
> >
> > Mark Hill (mh...@epicentre.net) wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, because everyone knows that circumcised men don't enjoy sex.
> >
> > They think they do but they don't really.
>
> Even now the technology does not exist to perform an objective comparison.
>
> Other than letting some guy have sex before and after the SNIP.
>
> Of course, the excruciating pain afterwards tends to skew the results
> in a way that's hard to calibrate.
Anecdotal evidence from people who were circumcised as adults suggests
that there is indeed a loss of some sensation, which is understandable
given how nerve-heavy the parts that get removed and replaced by scar
tissue are. The real reason circumcision became part of American
culture during the Victorian era was that it was believed it would
keep boys from masturbating, because masturbation makes you crazy.
But returning to the oft-cited recent study which claims circumcised men
are 40% more likely than uncircumcised men to masturbate at least once
a month. (And, as I said, the main implication of that is that being
uncircumcised makes people big liars.) Other studies claim the opposite.
Do you think there's _any_ reason to suppose that _anything_ will make men
less likely to masturbate? (As Jerry Seinfeld said, "We have to do it!
It's part of our lifestyle!")
I figure that the loss of sensation doesn't make men not want to
have sex, it just makes them take longer. It's not "better" or "worse",
just different. Everyone gets where they're going.
Of course, most of the information regarding the interaction between
circumcision and masturbation is from anti-circumcision advocacy sites,
so of course they're likely to claim that either (a) circumcision makes
masturbation less fun or (b) circumcision turns people into evil habitual
masturbators, depending on whether the site also advocates masturbation.
One of the studies from the "circumcision makes men 40% less likely
to be unable to go a month without masturbating" people makes the
absurd claim, "The glans, by contrast, is insensitive to light touch,
heat, cold and as far as the authors are aware, to pin-prick."
Extraordinary claims require extraordinarily painful proof...
Bring me the authors and hand me the fucking hat pin.
-- K.
A proper test would involve
circumcising only one side
of a baby's penis, then raising
him in sensory deprivation until
he's 21, then making him have
sex with two women, each of whom
has only one side of a vagina,
and then asking him which
was more enjoyable, Miss Lefty
or Miss Righty.
Since that'll never happen,
let's just stab some bozos
with hat pins.
rone
"Reverse Polish Notation: it eats away at your very sanity!"
>What has the newsgroup come to these days?
One-quarter impulse?
Marc Goodman
>>From: Marc Goodman marc.g...@comcast.net
>
>
>>This is like that StarTrek:tOS episode where there
>>are like 85 copies of the same librarian running around
>>and Spock gets it on with a Hawt Chi><0rz and eats
>>kabobs, right?
>>
>
>
> No, that's the Star Trek: Tos category of fanfiction.net.
Ha! Fan fiction, my shiny metal ass. Just for that
I'm going to assault your retinas with a picture of
Spock getting his groove thang on.
http://www20.brinkster.com/starrysky/zarabeth/spock_zbeth.jpg
Mark South
> Mark South (mark....@null.invalid) wrote:
> >
> > Poot Rootbeer (po...@dork.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark Hill (mh...@epicentre.net) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, because everyone knows that circumcised men don't enjoy sex.
> > >
> > > They think they do but they don't really.
> >
> > Even now the technology does not exist to perform an objective comparison.
> >
> > Other than letting some guy have sex before and after the SNIP.
> >
> > Of course, the excruciating pain afterwards tends to skew the results
> > in a way that's hard to calibrate.
>
> Anecdotal evidence from people who were circumcised as adults suggests
> that there is indeed a loss of some sensation, which is understandable
> given how nerve-heavy the parts that get removed and replaced by scar
> tissue are. The real reason circumcision became part of American
> culture during the Victorian era was that it was believed it would
> keep boys from masturbating, because masturbation makes you crazy.
So I'm told. But of course, I have no way of knowing.
> But returning to the oft-cited recent study which claims circumcised men
> are 40% more likely than uncircumcised men to masturbate at least once
> a month.
Once a month!!! A more realistic cutoff would be once per hour!
...or so it has been implied to me in private unattributable conversations.
> (And, as I said, the main implication of that is that being
> uncircumcised makes people big liars.) Other studies claim the opposite.
> Do you think there's _any_ reason to suppose that _anything_ will make men
> less likely to masturbate? (As Jerry Seinfeld said, "We have to do it!
> It's part of our lifestyle!")
Oh well, if Seinfeld does it then it can't make you crazy.
> I figure that the loss of sensation doesn't make men not want to
> have sex, it just makes them take longer. It's not "better" or "worse",
> just different. Everyone gets where they're going.
Unless they're getting to where they come.
> Of course, most of the information regarding the interaction between
> circumcision and masturbation is from anti-circumcision advocacy sites,
> so of course they're likely to claim that either (a) circumcision makes
> masturbation less fun or (b) circumcision turns people into evil habitual
> masturbators, depending on whether the site also advocates masturbation.
>
> One of the studies from the "circumcision makes men 40% less likely
> to be unable to go a month without masturbating" people makes the
> absurd claim, "The glans, by contrast, is insensitive to light touch,
> heat, cold and as far as the authors are aware, to pin-prick."
I really think that verification of these results needs federal funding.
The costs would be reasonable. The tools are low-cost. Pliers, blowtorch, dry
ice, BMF hatpin.
> Extraordinary claims require extraordinarily painful proof...
> Bring me the authors and hand me the fucking hat pin.
You're starting to sound like John Salt.
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- Marc Goodman in alt.religion.kibology
Rich Holmes
> This is like that StarTrek:tOS episode where there
> are like 85 copies of the same librarian running around
> and Spock gets it on with a Hawt Chi><0rz and eats
> kabobs, right?
Spacing out on the name 'Mariette Hartley' and instead referring to
her as 'a Hawt Chi><0rz' is kind of like... well, it's not very much
like anything, really.
Also, in real life if a library had 85 copies of the same librarian,
84 of them would be checked out and the 85th would be missing.
Also also, last week I had some jerk pork kebobs that Spock would not
merely have enjoyed, he would have been willing to do the Funky
Chicken in exchange for seconds.
Rich Holmes
> And by the time
> a male is old enough to decide for themselves if they want to be intact or
> not, the procedure is painful.
Doctor's SAY it's not painful for infant boys. But they would say
that, wouldn't they? It's not like the kid is going to tell you
different.
I say it hurts, and I say the hell with it. Marginal to zero health
benefits and the warm glow of conformity aren't worth the trauma.
> It's kind of like names, except you can't go to a judge and pay $20 to
> get your penis legally changed to Elvis Presley MacGillicuddy.
Pain or no pain, adult circumcision is a heck of a lot easier and
cheaper than adult uncircumcision.
Dr. Otto Bahn
> Anecdotal evidence from people who were circumcised as adults suggests
> that there is indeed a loss of some sensation, which is understandable
> given how nerve-heavy the parts that get removed and replaced by scar
> tissue are.
Plus there is the issue of the foreskin itself and how
it behaves during actual intercourse. There is both a
mechanical and sensory benefit that involves pushing,
pulling, friction coefficients, and being hood winked.
> The real reason circumcision became part of American
> culture during the Victorian era was that it was believed it would
> keep boys from masturbating, because masturbation makes you crazy.
True, and smegma is the reason it survived during
the cold war era.
[snip]
> I figure that the loss of sensation doesn't make men not want to
> have sex, it just makes them take longer. It's not "better" or "worse",
> just different. Everyone gets where they're going.
Of course circumcisied men want to have sex. You
could cut of 90% off a guy's penis, and after it healed,
he'd still want to have sex. The potential hypothesis
here is that circumcision may reduce the pleasure of
sex enough to make masturbation more competitive.
Sex still has the advantage of being turned on by someone
*else*, of course, but it takes more effort in several
ways. Guys who find masturbation almost as good as
sex might be more tempted to wack off every morn,
instead of chasing chyx after work. It's like the old
adage says:
"If you want to get laid, don't masturbate."
Or at least wait until, "Now I lay me down to sleep."
--oTTo--
Sports Pants
lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42 The Library Avenger) wrote:
> > -- K.
>
> >
> >And because most men are circumcised, they're fascinated by the sight
> >of an uncut penis,
>
> I don't know about you, but if a Jewish male offered to show me his uncut
> penile organ, I would decline
PLZ TO SHOW ME UNCUT JEWISH PENILE ORGAN ADTHANKSANCE!!!1
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David DeLaney
>less likely to masturbate?
Intense pain and/or hospitalization. (Well, many men.)
Death.
Extreme drunkenness; yes, they're getting it out and wiggling it, but that's
just because THEY GOTTA PEE RIGHT NOW...
> Since that'll never happen,
> let's just stab some bozos
> with hat pins.
Dave "or try the Overload Comparison method of determining sensitivity; line
forms on the left, dear, now that..." DeLaney
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David DeLaney
>lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42 The Library Avenger) wrote:
>> >And because most men are circumcised, they're fascinated by the sight
>> >of an uncut penis,
>>
>> I don't know about you, but if a Jewish male offered to show me his uncut
>> penile organ, I would decline
>
> PLZ TO SHOW ME UNCUT JEWISH PENILE ORGAN ADTHANKSANCE!!!1
Pssst! Ixnay on the ebrewHay ildchay 0rnpay equests, Ray!
Dave
James Kibo Parry
>
> James "Kibo" Parry (ki...@world.std.com) wrote:
> >
> > One of the studies from the "circumcision makes men 40% less likely
> > to be unable to go a month without masturbating" people makes the
> > absurd claim, "The glans, by contrast, is insensitive to light touch,
> > heat, cold and as far as the authors are aware, to pin-prick."
>
> I really think that verification of these results needs federal funding.
>
> The costs would be reasonable. The tools are low-cost. Pliers,
> blowtorch, dry ice, BMF hatpin.
Every time I read that, I think it says "IMF hatpin" and then I imagine
Peter Graves torturing Jon Voight to death to prevent "Baby Geniuses 3".
Oh, and follow Cameron Diaz's example and ditch the dry ice, just go
buy a can of Freon spray.
> > Extraordinary claims require extraordinarily painful proof...
> > Bring me the authors and hand me the fucking hat pin.
>
> You're starting to sound like John Salt.
And I'm starting to look like John Galt.
So presumably I'm also John Halt, John Ialt, John Jalt, John Kalt, John Lalt,
John Malt, John Nalt, John Oalt, John Palt, John Qalt, and John Ralt.
And collectively, all of us try to cross the street in front of Cheers(R)
on Beacon Hill, but a friendly guy dressed like an old-timey policeman
leads us a couple miles to the west so that we can cross the street into
the Ramrod instead. Then we spray John Aalt through John Falt and
John Talt through John Zalt with Freon until they shatter, then
Peter Graves points and laughs.
-- K.
"What did Cameron Diaz
say to the naked man?"
"PSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!"
Glitter Ninja
>sta...@xmission.com (Glitter Ninja) writes:
>> And by the time
>> a male is old enough to decide for themselves if they want to be intact or
>> not, the procedure is painful.
>Doctor's SAY it's not painful for infant boys.
Oh, I didn't mean it was not painful for the babies. It probably is, I
would be surprised if someone claimed otherwise.
Stacia * sta...@xmission.com * The Glitter Ninja
Cthulhu for President 2004! Why settle for a lesser evil?
l...@joimail.com
But circumscision is appx 133% less likely to be gross. You
get a guy with bad hygene, and you don't know what the fuck
he's fermenting in there. You could pull out a bagel.
> -- K.
>
> A proper test would involve
> circumcising only one side
> of a baby's penis, then raising
> him in sensory deprivation until
> he's 21, then making him have
> sex with two women, each of whom
> has only one side of a vagina,
> and then asking him which
> was more enjoyable, Miss Lefty
> or Miss Righty.
>
> Since that'll never happen,
> let's just stab some bozos
> with hat pins.
...in the dick
Dr. Otto Bahn
"Glitter Ninja" <sta...@xmission.com> wrote:
> >> And by the time
> >> a male is old enough to decide for themselves if they want to be intact or
> >> not, the procedure is painful.
>
> >Doctor's SAY it's not painful for infant boys.
>
> Oh, I didn't mean it was not painful for the babies. It probably is, I
> would be surprised if someone claimed otherwise.
Babies don't feel the need to have an orgasm
once or twice a day. Babies do not have (as
many?) involuntary, but in another sense still
voluntary, erections while sleeping.
Or to put it another way, any uncastrated male
adult is in for some unpleasantness that an infant
might not otherwise -- BZZT-GAAH! THE AGONY!
The agony, indeed. The "aching in the loins
but don't you dare" agony. I don't suppose
I'll be cutting off peices of my penis anytime
in the near future.
YMMV,
--oTTo--
Mark South
Hmmm, bagels!
--
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bare needs of survival and have progressed to the transcendant."
- Marc Goodman in talk.bizarre
B. Chas Parisher
> "Reverse Polish Notation: it eats away at your very sanity!"
ITYM:
it
eats
-
your
sanity(very)
at
!
RPN:
--B. Chas Parisher
rone
B. Chas Parisher <ba...@peaksleazy.org> wrote:
>On 28 Aug 2004 12:05:41 -0700, rone was all like:
>> "Reverse Polish Notation: it eats away at your very sanity!"
>
>ITYM:
>
>it
>eats
>-
>your
>sanity(very)
>at
>!
>RPN:
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!! I'M GOING MAD!!!!!
Kevin S. Wilson
Ninja) wrote:
> It's kind of like names, except you can't go to a judge and pay $20 to
>get your penis legally changed to Elvis Presley MacGillicuddy.
Heh. Sez you.
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"You can safely ignore Kevin in order to
maximise life's experience." --A. Loon, in alt.religion.kibology
David
[...]
> And then there's the whole Yahweh thing: you're not supposed to say that
> name EVAR! There are all of these synonyms: the Lord, Adonoi, Elohim, etc.
> It all comes from the ancient Jabiru, who called God "He Who Must Not Be
> Named". What the fuck, we're worshipping Beetlejuice?
No, Candyman. You know, Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
[...]
> k., the best thing about being Jewish is having a cool looking penis.
I was circumcised as a baby and I'm not Jewish. And a doctor did it!
What I'd want to see is side-by-side results from MDs and mohels. No, for
*scientific* reasons. To see if there's much difference between 'em.
Comparison-shopping 41 years after the fact. Am I slow or what?
D.
--
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David
[...]
> You could cut of 90% off a guy's penis, and after it healed,
No such thing as healing from that. Trying not think about it maybe.
There was a boy in the pediatric hospital while I was there as a
pediatric case whose father had "wounded" him there; I was too
squeamish to ask in what way. The nurses used washers for something
over there, is all I know, and once I found out the little I found
out I had 'em keep the separating curtain closed (just as well for
him too, I was a *nasty* little traction-bondaged boychild).
> he'd still want to have sex.
Not me. But then I seldom want sex with my 99%-complete penis.
So which is worse: getting one's penis chopped off, becoming impotent
through prostate surgery or something, or taking Zoloft for 12 years
till one forgets what it might be for -- but staying physically intact?
"Every now and then I have to run a little water through it." <- Movie
quote! Now I'm c00l like StAcIa!
David
[...]
> And by the time a male is old enough to decide for themselves if they
> want to be intact or not, the procedure is painful.
I'd think it'd be painful to an infant too. It's that we *forget* what
they did to us in our first fortnight of life, is all; adults are able
to say "...and you better numb me up good or I'll sue, you hear, sue!"
But I'm in favor of letting the grown male decide for himself.
David
> Glitter Ninja wrote:
> > not, the procedure is painful.
> > It's kind of like names, except you can't go to a judge and pay $20
> > to get your penis legally changed to Elvis Presley MacGillicuddy.
>
> I'm so ashamed. All I could think of to name mine was Dick.
I called my Harry. But we named our penii for FREE, you see.
D.
P.S. Now it's "Li'l Davey."
Glenn Knickerbocker
>Spacing out on the name 'Mariette Hartley' and instead referring to
>her as 'a Hawt Chi><0rz'
Boy, was I freaked the day I learned that Spock got it on with Not Mrs.
Jim Rockford. Still am, actually.
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