So for those of you that have never bothered to find it for yourself, here
is the pertinent data from what I think is the 'official" Geek Code page.
Kibo
Kibo is. That is all that can be said. If you don't understand, read
alt.religion.kibology
K++++++
I am Kibo
K+++++
I've had sex with Kibo
K++++
I've met Kibo
K+++
I've gotten mail from Kibo
K++
I've read Kibo
K+
I like Kibo
K
I know who Kibo is
K-
I don't know who Kibo is
K--
I dislike Kibo
K---
I am currently hunting Kibo down with the intent of ripping his
still-beating heart out of his chest and showing it to him as he dies
K----
I am Xibo
While it isn't a bad start, it doesn't go nearly far enough. There's no
code for having flown from London specifically to meet Kibo and a bunch of
other Kibologists. There's no code for meeting with Kibo to draw pictures
on a piece of plastic over a TV screen while a bad movie plays. There's no
code for having had your ridiculous scientific theories mocked by Kibo.
And as has become readily apparent with just these few examples you can see
that I'm barely scratching the surface!
What's needed is a more meaningful code that describes everyone that Kibo
has ever come in contact with in any way. I'll even get the ball rolling.
K+)*%^$*^$%&
Won a Kibo sponsored contest in 1998 but never got my damn prize.
Kß*Ü
Served Kibo a softdrink on his connecting flight to Las Vegas in 2000.
K8675309
Wrote a song that Kibo heard on the radio in the 1983.
KJEM
I am a Japanese module of the space station and will probably never post
to USENET unless I gain some sort of unholy, ethereal intelligence, and
then you'll pay, YOU'LL ALL PAY!
--
Dean Lenort dean....@att.net
============ Begin Kibo Code Block! ============
K57Ȅ K+++ K[sil] K[woxwox] K#mouse Kibonia
============ End Kibo Code Block! ============
See, that's where they don't follow the instructions. It says *read*
alt.religion.kibology, not *ask* alt.religion.kibology. They need to
do that one exercise where you read all the instructions and the last
one tells you not to follow any of the previous instructions. Then
they'll learn how to do as they're told!
[snip code]
>While it isn't a bad start, it doesn't go nearly far enough. There's
>no code for having flown from London specifically to meet Kibo and a
>bunch of other Kibologists. There's no code for meeting with Kibo to
>draw pictures on a piece of plastic over a TV screen while a bad
>movie plays. There's no code for having had your ridiculous
>scientific theories mocked by Kibo.
I did get some attention once with my code of K+++>+++++$, as you'll
recall.
>K8675309
> Wrote a song that Kibo heard on the radio in the 1983.
See? This is what Joe Bay was talking about, with people putting
definite articles in front of numbers! JOE! COME BACK TO THE EAST
COAST WHERE EVERYTHING STILL MAKES SeNSE!
JM
--
"Sorry, Mr. Cox had nothing to do with this. I forgot to remove his
head." -- Satchi, in message <3ABD0317...@mindspring.com>
Eggsactly.Its the movie where the thrilling themes causes you to want to
tear up flowers and eat them, and with a mout'full of flowers tha last thing
you read is
THIS IS A MOVIE'
SEE THAT SIGN THAT YOU DIDNT SEE WHEREN YOU WALKED IN?
IT SAYS DO NOT EAT THE FLOWERS
IN REAL LIFE IF IT SAYS DO NOT EAT THE FLOWERS OR GO TO JAIL AND YOU EAT THE
FLOWERS, YOU COULD GO TO JAIL
Then
> they'll learn how to do as they're told!
>
> [snip code]
>
> >While it isn't a bad start, it doesn't go nearly far enough. There's
> >no code for having flown from London specifically to meet Kibo and a
> >bunch of other Kibologists. There's no code for meeting with Kibo to
> >draw pictures on a piece of plastic over a TV screen while a bad
> >movie plays. There's no code for having had your ridiculous
> >scientific theories mocked by Kibo.
>
> I did get some attention once with my code of K+++>+++++$, as you'll
> recall.
>
>
> >K8675309
> > Wrote a song that Kibo heard on the radio in the 1983.
>
> See? This is what Joe Bay was talking about, with people putting
> definite articles in front of numbers! JOE! COME BACK TO THE EAST
> COAST WHERE EVERYTHING STILL MAKES SeNSE!
>
Space Coast
>See, that's where they don't follow the instructions. It says *read*
>alt.religion.kibology, not *ask* alt.religion.kibology. They need to
>do that one exercise where you read all the instructions and the last
>one tells you not to follow any of the previous instructions. Then
>they'll learn how to do as they're told!
We had the exercise where the last instruction tells you not to
follow any of the instructions, not just your wimpy "previous
instructions". And then we ate hot dog buns.
--
Joe Bay FLX NAV VEH CHO
Cancer Biology NUC MEM ATM OIE
Leland Stanford Junior University LIF CNT PAK UNF
"I will defend to the death your right to attribute it to Voltaire"-Churchill
Dean Lenort wrote:
>
> So what is it, about every 6 or 7 weeks that someone wanders in here,
> knocks the lava lamp off the stand by the door, and asks "What is Kibo?
These poor innocent lambs to the slaughter should also be
forced to read a disclaimer before joining the cult of Leader
Kibo. If this is a cult it's a rip off. Is this the sign of
a cult leader: I've been a dutiful follower for four months.
I did everything I was told. I read the FAQ, I used the buzz
words, I deprived myself of sleep reading 800 posts a night,
I ordered take out, I insulted Joe Manfre, I pouted, I prayed
for Bob Hope to die. For what? I have no secret mission, I
have no deeply ingrained hatred of the word 'pastiche'.
I've been DUPED!
If I'm going to follow some Internet Guru he should at least
strip me of all my worldly possessions, lay claim to my Lexus,
pilage my IRA's and eat all my candy corn. If he isn't capable
of having me change my will and leave everything to him rather
than the Home for Little Wanderers, how powerful can he be?
Am I really supposed to follow his advice and stop eating
cheese when he hasn't forced me to turn over my priceless
Franklin Mint collection? What is the world coming to when
Leaders are too...dare I say it...'NICE' to use their
influence for personal gain.
He can't just tell me to shoot at my television with a potato
gun, he needs to supply the guns AND THE SPUDS! How can I have
a decent standoff with the local grocery police if I'm armed
with an old sprouty, four eyed Russet? Make me dangle like
the puppet I should be or I'm turning in my "I Hate Cheese"
buttons for something more radical like advocating rabid Pit
Bulls as companions for the elderly.
Satchi
http://www.bombhumor.com
> K+++++
> I've had sex with Kibo
> K---
> I am currently hunting Kibo down with the intent of ripping his
> still-beating heart out of his chest and showing it to him as
> he dies
Yes, Dean.
k.
--
"In spite of everything, I still believe that people are
really good at heart." - Anne Frank
> dean....@att.net (Dean Lenort) wrote in
> <gas4ct4c6j7jgghac...@4ax.com>:
>
> > K+++++
> > I've had sex with Kibo
> > K---
> > I am currently hunting Kibo down with the intent of ripping his
> > still-beating heart out of his chest and showing it to him as
> > he dies
>
> Yes, Dean.
Forfend! As much as I like it, not my handiwork.
http://www.geekcode.com/geek.html#kibo
--
Dean Lenort | ARK IS FOR WHACKY BOZOS WHO KNOW IT! NANAB
dean....@att.net | IS FOR WHACKY BOZOS WHO DON'T! - E. Holmes
{ Kibo. If this is a cult it's a rip off...I'm turning in my "I Hate Cheese"
{ buttons for something more radical like advocating rabid Pit
{ Bulls as companions for the elderly.
{
<sigh> I went through all that about J.R."Bob" Dobbs. And actually I did
pretty good out of the Church of the SubGenius: I got a piece published in
WIRED Magazine and got to do the artwork for several cards in the
INWO-SubGenius Steve Jackson game.
--
Jim the Dead Guy
I DID get an acknowlegement
from Kibo for my Cone-test
entry.
> Eggsactly.Its the movie where the thrilling themes causes you to want to
> tear up flowers and eat them, and with a mout'full of flowers tha last thing
> you read is
> THIS IS A MOVIE'
> SEE THAT SIGN THAT YOU DIDNT SEE WHEREN YOU WALKED IN?
> IT SAYS DO NOT EAT THE FLOWERS
> IN REAL LIFE IF IT SAYS DO NOT EAT THE FLOWERS OR GO TO JAIL AND YOU EAT THE
> FLOWERS, YOU COULD GO TO JAIL
And then the giant stone head comes out of the sky and pukes up a bunch
of guns and says bad things about peanuses.
Yeah, I saw that one.
--
"But what ... is it good for?"
--Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,
commenting on the microchip.
And it's out on DVD now!
Plorkwort
--
Valentine: And everything is mixing the same way, all the time, irreversibly...
Septimus: Oh, we have time, I think.
Valentine: ... till there's no time left. That's what time means.
--Tom Stoppard, _Arcadia_
> And it's out on DVD now!
And it's in my DVD player!
--
The difference between erotic and kinky is that one uses a feather, the
other uses a chicken.
The bit with the sekrit mission is on his website. We get a new one every
week. It's so sekrit he had to post it on the WORLDWIDEWEB so that no one
would ever read it, so don't tell anyone else where it is.
> If I'm going to follow some Internet Guru he should at least
> strip me of all my worldly possessions, lay claim to my Lexus,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
FNARR FNARR!
> pilage my IRA's and eat all my candy corn. If he isn't capable
> of having me change my will and leave everything to him rather
> than the Home for Little Wanderers, how powerful can he be?
Kibo is so powerful he changed your will BEFORE you made it!
> Am I really supposed to follow his advice and stop eating
> cheese when he hasn't forced me to turn over my priceless
> Franklin Mint collection? What is the world coming to when
> Leaders are too...dare I say it...'NICE' to use their
> influence for personal gain.
Well considering everyone is really a Kibologist and they just don't know
it yet, maybe everything really belongs to Kibo and he just lets us use
it. Except for Xibo and cheese.
> [snip]Make me dangle like the puppet I should be[...]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ITYM "SHOVE A HAND UP MY BUTT AND WIGGLE MY ARMS WITH YOUR FINGERS" HTH!
Unless you're a rod-puppet, in which case you spend too much time insulting
movies to be in a cult.
--ben
At least we FINALLY know what Kibo's REAL really sekrit super-sekrit
project is.
Ben Allard wrote:
>
> satchi wrote:
> > These poor innocent lambs to the slaughter should also be
> > forced to read a disclaimer before joining the cult of Leader
> > Kibo. If this is a cult it's a rip off. Is this the sign of
> > a cult leader: I've been a dutiful follower for four months.
> [snip]
> > For what? I have no secret mission[...]
>
> The bit with the sekrit mission is on his website. We get a new one >every
> week. It's so sekrit he had to post it on the WORLDWIDEWEB so that no >
> one would ever read it, so don't tell anyone else where it is.
Yeah, and like I have to take the time to figure out which Last Supper
combo holds the correct instructions. What if I pick the Relish Tray
guy over the Yogurt dude and I'm wrong? Huh? I could end up saving Bob
Hope's life and...and...creating a "Boys From Vaudeville" type thing
where hundreds of little Bob Hopes are cloned rather than Kibos.
And would I then have to kill all the little slope noses from a
clock tower? With a potato gun? I can't handle the pressure.
>
> > If I'm going to follow some Internet Guru he should at least
> > strip me of all my worldly possessions, lay claim to my Lexus,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> FNARR FNARR!
CNARR CNARR!
>
> > pilage my IRA's and eat all my candy corn. If he isn't capable
> > of having me change my will and leave everything to him rather
> > than the Home for Little Wanderers, how powerful can he be?
>
> Kibo is so powerful he changed your will BEFORE you made it!
Well if that's the case he stinks at picking stocks. He made
himself lose money. Is that why I had the irresistible urge to
buy up huge shares of PEZ and Caravel Ice cream cakes?.
>
> > Am I really supposed to follow his advice and stop eating
> > cheese when he hasn't forced me to turn over my priceless
> > Franklin Mint collection? What is the world coming to when
> > Leaders are too...dare I say it...'NICE' to use their
> > influence for personal gain.
>
> Well considering everyone is really a Kibologist and they just don't
> know it yet, maybe everything really belongs to Kibo and he just lets us
> use it. Except for Xibo and cheese.
I KNEW someone would bring that up...maybe he makes us think we're
Kibologists when we're really Gynecologists or some other type of
'ologist .(See your remarks below...coincidence...I think not)
> > [snip]Make me dangle like the puppet I should be[...]
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ITYM "SHOVE A HAND UP MY BUTT AND WIGGLE MY ARMS WITH YOUR FINGERS" HTH!
See...PROCTOLOGIST not Kibologist. I am not sticking my hand up
Bob Hopes ass...
> Unless you're a rod-puppet, in which case you spend too much time insulting > movies to be in a cult.
>
> --ben
>
> At least we FINALLY know what Kibo's REAL really sekrit super-sekrit
> project is.
(Oh God, I knew it was the coleslaw with raspberry jam guy.)
Satchi
http://www.bombhumor.com
Jim Vandewalker wrote:
>
> In article <3AC2883F...@mindspring.com>, satchi
> <sat...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> { Kibo. If this is a cult it's a rip off...I'm turning in my "I Hate
> { Cheese" buttons for something more radical like advocating rabid Pit
> { Bulls as companions for the elderly.
> {
>
> <sigh> I went through all that about J.R."Bob" Dobbs. And actually I did
> pretty good out of the Church of the SubGenius: I got a piece published
> in WIRED Magazine and got to do the artwork for several cards in the
> INWO-SubGenius Steve Jackson game.
I'm not sure I understand what it is you did, were you deprogrammed and
then wrote about it? And then joined another religious sect?
Satchi
{
Well, the Church of the SubGenius is all about DE-programming, so in a
sense I DID get de-programmed but that's part of the PROGRAMMING. Actually
all you have to do to join the Church of the SubGenius is pay $30 for
eternal salvation GUARANTEED or TRIPLE your money back (you can't get a
deal like that from any OTHER organized religion). And everyone is ALREADY
a kibologist, so I guess I'm ECUMENICAL.
>Jim Vandewalker wrote:
>> [J.R."Bob" Dobbs]
>I'm not sure I understand what it is you did, were you
>deprogrammed and then wrote about it? And then joined another
>religious sect?
"Bob" can never be deprogrammed. Your only hope is to KILL "Bob"!!
You can't even join another cult without dragging "Bob" along with
you, like the ending of Diablo. The Church is what That Other Cult
would be if The Founder was a good Science Fiction writer. And yet
all who look see something different, for is it not true that "Bob"
is the reflection of all reality, even the bits that are not truth?
--
Heresiarch, First Church of Gumby, Scientist
w____\\W//___w Te Hupenui
Just Another Victim Of The Ambient Morality
http://copeland.choicelogic.com/~phelan/
> I did everything I was told. I read the FAQ, I used the buzz
> words, I deprived myself of sleep reading 800 posts a night,
> I ordered take out, I insulted Joe Manfre, I pouted, I prayed
> for Bob Hope to die. For what? I have no secret mission, I
> have no deeply ingrained hatred of the word 'pastiche'.
Get the ball gag, the durian, and the wiffle bat, it's time for a good
old fashioned hazing...
> If I'm going to follow some Internet Guru he should at least
> strip me of all my worldly possessions, lay claim to my Lexus,
> pilage my IRA's and eat all my candy corn.
See, this is where you're wrong. All the Candy in the World already
belongs to Kibo.
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Of course, this was from the era when there -were- still free-to-use
news servers and a list of where you could get some...
Dave "now we just have newsguy and deja and the like" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://panacea.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Waah! My mom would never get me a Winky Dink screen and then they found
out TV caused CANCER! CHEMOTHERAPY WAS RUINED!
ŹR
you'll realize that the first instruction said to read all the
instructions first! Business reengineering training b0rke Bertrand
Russell's BRANE!
> definite articles in front of numbers! JOE! COME BACK TO THE EAST
> COAST WHERE EVERYTHING STILL MAKES SeNSE!
WHAT IS THE EVERYTHING
L. Frank was way cool.
ŹR
>Of course, this was from the era when there -were- still free-to-use
>news servers
Yes, I forgot how the free news server I'm using doesn't exist
anymore. YOU CAN'T SEE THIS POST BECAUSE NEWS.CIS.DFN.DE DOESN'T
EXIST!
>and a list of where you could get some...
Now *that* I *don't* have, but I'm sure there are some such lists
online somewhere. My Net Nanny doesn't let me look at sites like
that.
Reverend Doctor Hexar le Saipe
Velvet Earth Machine Cult
hexar(at)minister(dot)com
"Will the real Satan please stand up?"
(Barney Rubble)
STOP SEACHENGINEBOMBING BERTRAND RUSSELL!!!!1!
--
Chris "The Tramp" Adams
I am the way of all flesh.
"Lion King? Abolutely. Soundtrack? Yes."
XEAUIK EREF EM-NEMMET
Your Procreative Organ Is Next
Upon The Sacrificial Altar.
On a slightly different tangent, one of the most bizarre elements in my
life right now is that fact that I'm taking a course at university called
"Christianity A: From Damascus To Dante." Apart from the fact that my
lecturer is one of the weirdest guys I've ever known - an expert on
Melanesian religion who likes shaking spears at his class, a former
government consultant on whether or not certain religious movements ought
to be allowed to migrate to Austria and an expert witness in the Sydney
Hilton bombing case, and a Quaker - the class is, naturally enough, filled
with Christians who "love learning about (their) God."
That's fine.
BUT WHY ARE THEY ALL SCIENCE STUDENTS?
Literally. There are twenty-eight people enrolled in the class, of whom I
estimate twenty-two, at the least, are dedicated Christians of various
persuasions - evangelical Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, et
cetera.
In case anyone's wondering, this digression is sponsored by that guy in my
class who wears a "WWJD" necklace.
Out of those twenty-two Christians, at least fifteen of them introduced
themselves as science students - largely chemistry and, suspiciously
enough, biology; I wonder if they irritate their professors by objecting to
their references to evolutionary processes? - and I can't understand it! I
*know* there are Christians doing arts subjects. I've met them. But why is
it only the science students who cross over into this Christianity course?
I find it bizarre.
{ Jim Vandewalker wrote in message ...
{ >
{ >Well, the Church of the SubGenius is all about DE-programming, so in
{ a
{ >sense I DID get de-programmed but that's part of the PROGRAMMING. Actually
{ >all you have to do to join the Church of the SubGenius is pay $30 for
{ >eternal salvation GUARANTEED or TRIPLE your money back (you can't get a
{ >deal like that from any OTHER organized religion). And everyone is ALREADY
{ >a kibologist, so I guess I'm ECUMENICAL.
{ >
{ You wanna become a Discordian too so you can have the trifecta?
{
No, I only have the two personalities.
Fantod wrote:
>
> [satchi]:
>
> >Jim Vandewalker wrote:
> >> [J.R."Bob" Dobbs]
>
> >I'm not sure I understand what it is you did, were you
> >deprogrammed and then wrote about it? And then joined another
> >religious sect?
>
> "Bob" can never be deprogrammed. Your only hope is to KILL "Bob"!!
> You can't even join another cult without dragging "Bob" along with
> you, like the ending of Diablo. The Church is what That Other Cult
> would be if The Founder was a good Science Fiction writer. And yet
> all who look see something different, for is it not true that "Bob"
> is the reflection of all reality, even the bits that are not truth?
I don't know about all that...but hey, he can spell his name
backwards and forwards so he's got that going for him...
Is "the Bob" with us now?
Satchi
http://www.bombhumor.com
I think you mean ECONOMICAL!
Triple your money back you say? And yeah, I'm already a Kibologist for
free...where do I sign up!
Satchi
you can never be "too saved".
http://www.bombhumor.com
isn't the bob always with the faithful?
--
Philip parked, unbuckled the seat belt, exhaled. Work. It could be worse.
It had been. This was safe harbour. So far, he had seen no signs
of Cthulhu or Yog-Sothith or his dread messenger, Nyarlathotep.
- William Browning Spencer _Resume with Monsters_
Luke Breinig wrote:
>
> In article <3AC2883F...@mindspring.com>, sat...@mindspring.com
> says...
>
> > I did everything I was told. I read the FAQ, I used the buzz
> > words, I deprived myself of sleep reading 800 posts a night,
> > I ordered take out, I insulted Joe Manfre, I pouted, I prayed
> > for Bob Hope to die. For what? I have no secret mission, I
> > have no deeply ingrained hatred of the word 'pastiche'.
>
> Get the ball gag, the durian, and the wiffle bat, it's time for a good
> old fashioned hazing...
>
> > If I'm going to follow some Internet Guru he should at least
> > strip me of all my worldly possessions, lay claim to my Lexus,
> > pilage my IRA's and eat all my candy corn.
>
> See, this is where you're wrong. All the Candy in the World already
> belongs to Kibo.
Oh yeah? Well watch this: rip...spill...stuff in mouth...chew.
Ha! I just ate a shitload of Kibo's Kandy Korn.
And I'm NOT pukin' it back up.
Satchi
I escaped Boston with all my candy
corns hidden in my enormous hair do.
Hexar wrote:
>
> Jim Vandewalker wrote in message ...
> >
> >Well, the Church of the SubGenius is all about DE-programming, so in
> a
> >sense I DID get de-programmed but that's part of the PROGRAMMING.
> Actually
> >all you have to do to join the Church of the SubGenius is pay $30 for
> >eternal salvation GUARANTEED or TRIPLE your money back (you can't get
> a
> >deal like that from any OTHER organized religion). And everyone is
> ALREADY
> >a kibologist, so I guess I'm ECUMENICAL.
> >
> You wanna become a Discordian too so you can have the trifecta?
Box em!
Satchi
http://www.bombhumor.com
It's the "Big Bang" theory...they want to know how God did it with
out pissing Joseph off.
See...that necklace stands for "Where Was Joseph's Dick?
Satchi
http://www.bombhumor.com
> Plorkwort <aswe...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> > The moving finger of Tom Kraemer wrote <tkraem...@world.std.com:
> >>And then the giant stone head comes out of the sky and pukes up a bunch
> >>of guns and says bad things about peanuses.
> >>
> >>Yeah, I saw that one.
>
> > And it's out on DVD now!
>
> And it's in my DVD player!
In bed!
--
Andy Z.
1. Push Butt--.
2. Rub Under -arm ---.
3. Stops Automatically.
On fire!
>Out of those twenty-two Christians, at least fifteen of them
>introduced themselves as science students - largely chemistry and,
>suspiciously enough, biology; I wonder if they irritate their
>professors by objecting to their references to evolutionary
>processes?
I took a Humanities course on Darwin (I forget what it was about
exactly) with an Orthodox Jew, who objected to absolutely everything,
and he was a Bio major. His paper disproved evolution. IIRC, my paper
claimed that Jews were more evolved.
Oddly, I never did too well in Humanities classes.
--
Patrick Phelan
w____\\W//___w Te Hupenui
Rowsdower. Zap Rowsdower
http://copeland.choicelogic.com/~phelan/
>I don't know about all that
You don't use your mind to think about your religion! (tm)
>...but hey, he can spell his name backwards and forwards
"Bob" spelled backwards still spells M-O-O-N! (tm)
>so he's got that going for him...
"Bob" is not going, he is coming. On X-Day, July 5, when the Saucers From
Planet X will come to take all good Subgenii away. Also, the bad Subgenii.
>Is "the Bob" with us now?
I don't think he does that anymore. I once repossed a TB oriented newsgroup
because no one was using it, and that was years ago.
--
Patrick Phelan
w____\\W//___w Te Hupenui
must end life in classic Lorne Greene pose from "Battlestar Galactica." -CBG
http://copeland.choicelogic.com/~phelan/
>
>
>Jim Vandewalker wrote:
>>
>>
>> Actually
>> all you have to do to join the Church of the SubGenius is pay $30 for
>> eternal salvation GUARANTEED or TRIPLE your money back.... And everyone is ALREADY
>> a kibologist, so I guess I'm ECUMENICAL.
>
>I think you mean ECONOMICAL!
>
>Triple your money back you say? And yeah, I'm already a Kibologist for
>free...where do I sign up!
>
Go to: http://subgenius.com/ for more misinformation than you could
POSSIBLY want.
> Out of those twenty-two Christians, at least fifteen of them introduced
> themselves as science students - largely chemistry and, suspiciously
> enough, biology; I wonder if they irritate their professors by objecting to
> their references to evolutionary processes?
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION: Christian =/= Creationist.
I'd say that the majority of Christians (at least educated ones) can
accept evolution without conflicting their spiritual beliefs. The
Catholic Church has (by Papal decree) stated that evolution does not
violate church doctrine. Also, most mainline protestant denominations
either accept evolution or de-emphasize origins altogether. The only
group that is really big into creationism are the lunatic fringe. The
fundies who stand around on street corners screaming "Hallelujah!!1!"
while rubbing the KING JAMES version of the bible against their private
parts.
So fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun...
>fundies who stand around on street corners screaming "Hallelujah!!1!"
>while rubbing the KING JAMES version of the bible against their private
>parts.
All OTHER versions are PER versions!
Especially the PER MAGNUSSEN translation.
--
Joe Bay FLX NAV VEH CHO
Cancer Biology NUC MEM ATM OIE
Leland Stanford Junior University LIF CNT PAK UNF
"I will defend to the death your right to attribute it to Voltaire"-Churchill
alphabetizing by second letter?
> *know* there are Christians doing arts subjects. I've met them. But why is
> it only the science students who cross over into this Christianity course?
Seriously: Perhaps they're the only ones openminded enough to face the
actual history of their beliefs?
¬R
>[Christopher Adams]:
>
>>Out of those twenty-two Christians, at least fifteen of them
>>introduced themselves as science students - largely chemistry and,
>>suspiciously enough, biology; I wonder if they irritate their
>>professors by objecting to their references to evolutionary
>>processes?
>
>I took a Humanities course on Darwin (I forget what it was about
>exactly)
so not darwin then?
Oh, I'm fully aware of that.
> I'd say that the majority of Christians (at least educated
> ones) can accept evolution without conflicting their
> spiritual beliefs.
Actually, with that comment I was thinking of the guy who said "I just love
learning about my God," which as a statement betrays his deep commitment to
evangelical Protestantism. Contrast to those who said "I wanted to learn
about the history of the Church" or "the history of my religion," or other
such things - but this guy, who is one of the biology students . . . I'm
not saying he is a creationist, but I was intrigued.
They might *believe* they're open-minded enough . . . but quite a few of
them betray their assumptions regularly. Like the guy who asked what Origen
would have believed about Adam compared to "what all of us here today"
believe. Or the people who end their well-researched presentation on, say,
the life of Saint Anthony of Egypt with a cute little moral lesson, or the
guy who so very obviously wanted to deny that Athanasius intended to have
quite as much power over the early Egyptian monastic movement as he did . .
.
It's not a problem. I mean, I know that these little Christian-centric
quirks of theirs don't go unnoticed by the lecturers, who were very clear
on the fact that this is a course about the historical reality of what
Christianity was like, even though the guy running the course is, as I
said, a Quaker himself - but it's just bizarre, to tell you the truth, that
it's *science* students who feel the need to cross over into humanities
subjects related to their faith, as opposed to say a French-English major
or an Education student taking the course.
Excuse me. "Public news servers" - ones that just anyone could telnet to and
post from. Unlike yours where you have to be on a List of Specialness or
something I bet. There used to be at least one place you could actually
finger to get a list of them; they died out about 1994 or 1995 though.
(Of course, now that everyone uses the Web instead they may be evolving back
into consciousness...)
>>and a list of where you could get some...
>
>Now *that* I *don't* have, but I'm sure there are some such lists
>online somewhere. My Net Nanny doesn't let me look at sites like that.
Dave "left alone with big fat Franny" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://panacea.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ/ I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
David DeLaney wrote:
>
> Excuse me. "Public news servers" - ones that just anyone could telnet to and
> post from. Unlike yours where you have to be on a List of Specialness or
> something I bet. There used to be at least one place you could actually
> finger to get a list of them; they died out about 1994 or 1995 though.
> (Of course, now that everyone uses the Web instead they may be evolving back
> into consciousness...)
>
>>I took a Humanities course on Darwin (I forget what it was about
>>exactly)
>
>so not darwin then?
It obviously _involved_ Darwin, but I don't remember what the point
was. Just a presenation of the early history of the theory, the life
and times, general history of that time, or what?
As I type this, more details come back to me, so I now believe life
and times bit, with an additional reading of The Book.
--
Patrick Phelan
w____\\W//___w Te Hupenui
Au wa wakare no hajime
http://copeland.choicelogic.com/~phelan/
Fantod wrote:
> [Rid]:
>
> >>I took a Humanities course on Darwin (I forget what it was about
> >>exactly)
> >
> >so not darwin then?
>
> It obviously _involved_ Darwin, but I don't remember what the point
> was. Just a presenation of the early history of the theory, the life
> and times, general history of that time, or what?
> As I type this, more details come back to me, so I now believe life
> and times bit, with an additional reading of The Book.
So they were teaching creationism in a class on Darwin? Strange.
Yes, I suppose the depressing thing is that you have to give them your
email address and get a password so that they will be able to kick you
off for spamming. Depressing because it reflects the fact that news
admins have to be so concerned about Net abuse now. Still, it doesn't
take anything to visit http://news.cis.dfn.de/ and read the rules and
email them asking for an account. I bet that would also make it
easier for people to see your posts so we wouldn't have to see Peter
Willard complaining about how he can't see you from there. (However,
it's not like a shell account where you could telnet in and use their
pre-configured newsreaders or anything; if you telnet you have to send
your own NNTP commands, but I know you know how to do that.)
I suggest you give it a try; it's a fast server, painstakingly
maintained and with fairly long retention times (at least 15 days for
all hierarchies).
JM
--
"Sorry, Mr. Cox had nothing to do with this. I forgot to remove his
head." -- Satchi, in message <3ABD0317...@mindspring.com>
>> *know* there are Christians doing arts subjects. I've met
>> them. But why is it only the science students who cross
>> over into this Christianity course?
>Seriously: Perhaps they're the only ones openminded enough
>to face the actual history of their beliefs?
NOTE that the teaching of HIEROGLYPHICS -- the TRUE written WORD
(or LEGOS) -- is BANNED by BOTH Seculate Humanmists AND Bile-
THUMPERS!!!
--
CRGRE
"You might say we're cosmically retarded,"
Stanton Friedman
"In short, what should be taken literally, and what
slipperily?" DRH
>
>They might *believe* they're open-minded enough . . . but
>quite a few of them betray their assumptions regularly.
I wonder what happens to these people when they are inevitably
exposed to Chaitin's OMEGA.
>Get the ball gag, the durian, and the wiffle bat, it's time for a good
>old fashioned hazing...
You see no durian here.
What happened to my sub-thread?
4 little letters (WWKD) and already we are onto "...Christians doing
arts subjects."?!?!
Good grief, my sub-thread has been molested and had it's veracity
stolen.