#HOMELAND SECURITY = THE INQUISITION!!
Susan Williams
Martyrs "Foxe's Book of Heretics" because she was merely referring to
the Albigenses of the Reformation.
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Government harrassment
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/harassment/index.html
WHAT DO THEY MEAN TO YOU? DO YOU CARE ABOUT THEM??
Dear friends:
Here we are again with an urgent appeal to you. Things have gotten so
out of hand, that we wonder why even try. Viewing that the issues at
hand involve much blood however, we have to ask again and try again.
It is not a pleasant task, but we have to do it.
As I and Brother Ted (Ted McMillan/TedM), Trevor Dixon and others have
presented before, the very latest major episode that took place over
the internet on the newsgroups was when Ted Seeber condemned whole
races of people to persecution and death boldly. He was not jesting
when he did this, and no sane person would excuse someone for even
joking along these lines. I don’t know if any of you people reading
this thinks this is a joke. It is not! The man belongs to a very
powerful organization that is considered very reputable in our time.
He is in league with millions more who believe just as he does. We
have been exposing such people, and, in this case with Ted Seeber,
Brother McMillan exposed him in a most remarkable way. YES, A MAN HAS
CONDEMNED WHOLE RACES OF PEOPLE TO PERSECUTION AND DEATH ON THE
INTERNET! The problem however, doesn't just rest with this man. Many
others believe the same way! Many others protected him and came out
to defend him!
Brother Ted M. (Ted McMillan) is a very remarkable individual. He is
the editor of my posts and he acts like an advisor. He entered
debates and saw much commotion, but he is witty enough to see through
all the commotion and come up with the right answers. He also has an
uncanny ability to be able to show answers to debates in simple terms
so others can understand often using simple imagery. He encountered
many strange individuals who encouraged confusion for the purpose of
ultimately making their ideas dominate in every forum. When there was
confusion, they prospered. Brother McMillan entered in and had the
habit of clearing up all the confusion. He constantly asked people
questions they couldn't afford to answer, for to answer would more
than prove their ideas wrong AND WHO THEY ARE. Because of that, they
hated him and did everything they could to take him out of the way and
get rid of him. Here was the beginning of our adventure.
A number of times these strange individuals made key errors and
blunders in their posts. We are here to use those blunders and their
behavior in a most powerful set of evidence showing things you need to
know. We are not talking about great and difficult studies here to
present to you. Neither are we talking about debateable events that
no one can understand. This will be made simple... WE HOPE! These do
have to be somewhat tailored even for the TV minded, although we found
this difficult to accomplish indeed! We will also add documentation
from contemporary and historical writers, showing you what is going
on. We are showing you what's happening behind the scenes using what
we feel is the most powerful way to reveal it: through actual
dialogues with the people behind it. We are going to introduce to you
the most heinous super-criminals in the world today! You think Osama
Bin Laden is bad? He is a little school boy compared to these!
Since the time Ted Seeber condemned whole races of people to
persecution and death, the most amazing and deceitful people have
approached Brother Ted to attack him and to falsify and cover up what
he has exposed. This is not the first time such a thing has happened
and the same amazing tactics were used where they constantly had the
word HATE pointed at him. They swarmed upon him coming from all
sides! They are determined that TedM drop the subject entirely of
what Ted Seeber has done and posted on these newsgroups even though it
involves such immense issues EVEN TO THE CONDEMNATION OF THEIR OWN
LIVES. Most of those who responded and attacked Brother McMillan were
some of the ones who were condemned by Ted Seeber! They have directly
ORDERED Brother McMillan to drop it. TedM rightfully refuses to drop
it. So most everybody else posting on these newsgroups have insulted,
attacked and slandered TedM, constantly accusing him of hatred in
order to reverse what he revealed. These people have become so bold
that they now seem to see no limit to how they should show their true
colors. They are demonstrating that they know something about you,
your society, your government, YOUR FUTURE! for they post boldly on
public forums with expectation of being watched! But realize one
thing: it is not the intelligence of Brother Ted that they are
insulting when they make outrageous statements on these newsgroups and
reveal their true colors. They know that he can see right through
their unscrupulous and super-terroristic souls. IT IS YOUR
INTELLIGENCE THEY ARE INSULTING!
Ted Seeber made a cataclysmic statement on November 5, 2001, and the
issues surrounding his remarks, along with the reactions that came
after them, ARE NOT TO BE IGNORED BY ANYONE WHO RESPECTS LIFE, LIMB,
PROPERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. Remember, we are in a climate
where terrorism is a very big issue. We have revealed that Ted Seeber
is the very worst kind of terrorist to be found on the planet today.
We call him a super-terrorist, as we will show why in a moment.
The very first circumstance we realized that took place was that for
months and probably years, Ted Seeber has been openly and boldly
speaking out against freedom and the Constitution of the United
States. HE WAS BY FAR NOT THE ONLY ONE showing some form of animosity
to that divinely created document. Others have done the same, though
in more subtle ways. Ted Seeber was clearly more bold and careless
till he really messed up and did something really cataclysmic!
Cataclysmic enough for even himself to realize! He has been speaking
out against the American Constitution, liberty, the rights to privacy,
etc. for a long time boldly now. WELL BEFORE September 11, 2001! How
could he accomplish such a thing for so long?
IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS VIRTUALLY UNOPPOSED!!
And who are all these people who were involved in these escapades?
Who is Ted Seeber? THEY WERE ALL PROFESSING CHRISTIANS!! TED SEEBER
HIMSELF IS CATHOLIC! While on the internet Ted Seeber was defending
Catholicism. Why then was he condemning liberty and the American
Constitution? ALL SUCH PEOPLE came in with the delusion that they
were posting to defend and allow free expression of all ideas. In
other words, they were here to DEFEND FREEDOM AND LIBERTY. They claim
this is necessary for healthy thought, preservation of freedom and the
highest potential of man. All of them--even Ted Seeber--loves to
accuse those who can outwit them in debate of not allowing others to
disagree. And attack liberty at the same time? THESE PEOPLE CAN DO
THAT!! Through experience, we found that they had come to actually
perform the opposite of what they claimed they were pushing, and were
really there to destroy free expression and all freedom. They were
trained to do it step-by-step and little-by-little. To cover this up,
they always had the habit of accusing us who were exposing them of
getting angry with them just because they disagree with us as if
they're the sole defenders of the rights to disagree. This is a
landmark habit of theirs consistently to make it appear that we had
their training to be despots and tyrants and they had ours to love
liberty.
Immediately we were able to tell that anyone who condemns either
liberty or the principles of the American Constitution is a profound
killer. We don't care who they are or where they're from. The rule
of thumb is that anyone who condemns the principles of liberty is a
killer! We knew that all along. Ted Seeber was just one who labored
to make everyone believe that a person can hate the US Constitution
and just be another debater merely having a different opinion posting
and participating on forums. WE KNEW BETTER FROM THE BEGINNING. The
problem was how to show it and how to let you be aware of this fact.
Even though they are trained to hide their true colors, we already
knew they were killers. Ted Seeber proved that before all our eyes.
SO DID THE OTHERS WHO DEFENDED HIM!
That's right! Ted Seeber is Catholic, and professing Christians were
all around him who witnessed what he was posting. It didn't bother
them a bit!! But then something did wind up bothering them immensely.
Brother McMillan reproved and exposed the monster, Ted Seeber! That
was the beginning of D-Day FIRE! One after another and all at once
these professing Christians have been doing everything possible to
attack Ted McMillan and protect Ted Seeber. They approached claiming
that they had to address a great injustice because Ted Seeber (being
exposed as a super-terrorist) was treated rudely while totally missing
the Constitution being attacked for at least months that guarantees
the rights and well being of millions! They couldn't see that
injustice to this day, not even with us screaming about it. They all
attacked claiming that Ted McMillan was hateful having a problem with
love. They laid out this charge in the most cunning ways without
letup indicating much training in the art of deceit AND INDICATING FAR
MORE FOR THE FUTURE THAN YOU CAN EVER KNOW RIGHT NOW. They portrayed
it a great crime that Ted Seeber was exposed. Some even ventured to
lie and tell us that Seeber didn't do what we proved he did.
Eventually they had to confess that he did condemn whole races of
people to death, but they then worked to make everyone believe it was
of no consequence while myself and Brother McMillan exposing him was a
great crime. Professing Christians claiming to come from various
denominations moved in, made their entrance, and then systematically
found the place to accuse Ted Mac of hatred.
From our studies of the events and from our personal experiences with
people like Ted Seeber, we have CONFIRMED the horrifying fact that
there are MILLIONS more such people, and that they’re all throughout
our society. We have had much exposure to them on the internet, and
they literally taunt us with what appears to be our feeble attempts to
alert the public who do not realize the issues crucial to their very
existence that are just right around the corner! Insiders have told
us that these strange people believe the general public is stupid.
Most do not know who they actually are or what they are capable of.
We have brought this evidence with our appeals to the Catholic
newsgroups. We brought it to the Adventist newsgroups; to the Baptist
newsgroups; to the Lutheran newsgroups; to the Jewish newsgroups and
even to those newsgroups that deal with freedom and government issues.
So far virtually NO ONE has even ventured to comment or show any
concern!!
Remember Communists? Remember Nazis? They never existed? OH! THEY
DID EXIST! Remember what they were capable of? Remember that
millions of them existed? Ok then, if they existed, where are they
now and what has happened to them? Did you remember that such people
could never be taught that their philosophies are wrong? Remember
that they had no conscience and were supremely hard-headed? Where
are they now? You think they had a change of heart? You think they
just vanished into thin air? You think communism has really fallen?
Ever thought about how it would be to have a conversation with such
dangerous people? Did you ever even become curious and think to
yourselves what it would be like if you were to merely have interviews
with Karl Marx or Stalin in order to probe their minds, maybe even
under some futile fantasy imagining that you can touch their hearts?
Well that’s what has been happening with us for a while now. YOU WILL
SEE THOSE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE HERE ON THE INTERNET!! WE ARE NOT
KIDDING!! We are going to demonstrate using what we believe will be
the most powerful eye-opening evidence: ACTUAL DIALOGUES FROM THESE
PEOPLE!
Here is the crucial dialogue where Ted Seeber made a very supreme
blunder and condemned whole races of people to death:
Brother Ted made the statement in defense of liberty and the
Constitution:
> But you did understand how to hang people in chains. And your
> founding Fathers also can't tell the difference between shedding the
> blood of millions of bible-believers in the most unbelievable ways
> for their descendants to now presume upon the world to teach them what is
> the definition of love, hate and plagiarism.
What’s happening here is that Seeber fought against the principles of
liberty and the Constitution. He then told Brother Ted (McMillan)
that true freedom is seen when people are persecuted and held in
chains and can demonstrate the power to still be themselves. He is
telling us that this is what he wants while constantly supporting
Roman Catholicism! Thing is, he is not talking about all Christians
being persecuted this way. HE IS ONLY TALKING ABOUT TRUE PROTESTANTS
OR BIBLE BELIEVERS, claiming that they should be persecuted! In
another post, he claimed that persecution was biblical! Brother Ted
responded by saying he should be more concerned about the brutal
slayings of millions of Christians than in plagiarism (they constantly
attack our church, claiming that one of its founders was a plagiarist
more than a hundred years ago and that this great crime denies them
sleep. They magnify this as a major crime with emotion and relentless
attack. When we bring up the brutal killings of bible-believers, they
constantly and callously laugh this off and treat it as nothing then
wind up accusing us of hatred for bringing up the atrocities of
history). Brother McMillan is therefore here saying that Seeber's
judgment is corrupted since he goes emotional over what he claims is
plagiarism, but he constantly ignores the most brutal atrocities of
history against bible-believing Christians.
This is what Ted Seeber replied to Brother McMillan:
================
Can you really be said to be believing in the Bible if you don't live
it?
NONE of the groups persecuted by the Catholics were living the Bible.
They were living their personal interpretations of God, not the Bible.
================
BINGO!!
NOTICE HOW HE IS SPEAKING IN APPROVAL OF WHAT WAS DONE! THIS IS JUST
THE BEGINNING OF THE CRIMES OF THE MAN TED SEEBER!
Here is the clincher that forced Ted Seeber to flee from posting on
the newsgroups. Brother McMillan responded by saying:
Ted McMillan:
"NO WONDER YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ME BRINGING BACK YOUR RECORD OF
HORRIBLE ATROCITIES! They were not even living the bible! Why even
worry about them!"
[Now, you're ready for this?? This is what Brother McMillan then
said]...
"WERE THE 5 TO 6 THOUSANDS WHO WERE KILLED BY THE TERRORIST ATTACKS
LIVING THE BIBLE?"
[Friends, remember the date of the terrorist attacks: September 11,
2001. Now look at the date of Ted Seeber's remarks!! Prime Minister
Tony Blair had not long prior given a definition of a terrorist, and
Seeber walked right in and fulfilled it worse than Osama Bin Laden!
Osama claims that many must die because America did something against
his race and/or religion. Seeber condemned everyone BECAUSE THEY'RE
NOT CATHOLIC!! That’s why we call him a super-terrorist!
Brother McMillan continues]...
"You don't have any consistent principles, if you even know the
meaning of the word! Your principles change only for you to even look
like you are winning an argument."
===========================
As simple and as striking as these words are, allow me to show you
first that even these don't stand alone to prove anything. With this
statement the man has been condemning the American Constitution and
all liberty. He told us that "liberty is useless, and only causes
schism." Ironically, he gave COMPLETE confidence to our current
national leaders, even telling us we should willingly provide them
with absolutely all our private information and obey EVERYTHING
President Bush says whether or not it goes against the Constitution.
He said he had no problem doing that SINCE HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO
HIDE. He said the Constitution and the principles of liberty are,
"incredibly stupid and outdated" in concert with the Bush
Administration telling us that the US Counter-terrorism system was
"outdated" before regressing the principles of the Constitution as a
response to 911. At the same time, Seeber expressed disdain and
hatred for our national forefathers. He referred to our system of
liberty as the “Protestant rebellion,” showing his mind is exactly the
same as the Inquisitors centuries ago!
Seeber said boldly that he works within America to destroy the
principles of liberty it now has and says he is within acceptable
confines to attack it from the inside. He claimed it was his purpose
to make sure through reinterpretation, that the principles of the
Constitution should actually be enforced OPPOSITE to the way they are
interpreted and enforced today. WE ARE NOT KIDDING!! Where were
others who witnessed all of this? They were right there attacking
Brother McMillan for exposing and reproving the super-terrorist!
The man Seeber has shown complete indifference to atrocities against
bible-believers but went nuts when those atrocities were exposed or
when we exposed who he and his friends were! All of them, claiming to
come from various Christian denominations--and even one claiming to be
a Wiccan or Witch--had this terrible documented Vatican disease!
In this link above Seeber actually tells us that PERSECUTION IS
BIBLICAL! He tells us that the bible sanctions persecuting Christians
for not seeing religious matters as he does!
Where then are our priorities? Which is worse: to persecute? or to be
exposed for doing that? Constantly strange people demanding change of
our churches and government system approached Brother McMillan,
constantly issuing the word HATE at him while constantly clothing
their actions with the word LOVE! They constantly demand that the
Adventist Church change in concert with others demanding that the US
government change and who are forcing these organizations to do this.
The conflicting issues in the discussions that took place on the
internet dealing with love and hate, can mainly be summed up by the
words of one highly unscrupulous person posting by the name of Will
Nordymeyer. He hated Brother McMillan immediately upon noting what he
had done to Ted Seeber, and so he moved in with attacks using tactics
we had often encountered by these strange killers: always on the basis
of love in Christianity. He was speaking to Brother Ted McMillan when
he leveled the typical accusation:
> You are once again being hateful and non-Christian.
This comment came because Brother McMillan exposed Ted Seeber and all
who aided and abbetted him. Brother Ted then wrote from a previous
post:
> > A Super-terrorist has condemned all non-Catholics.
Will Nordmeyer responded:
> And Ted continues to call people names.
This is the direct response he gave after Brother Ted commented about
Ted Seeber condemning all non-Catholics to persecution and death!
Notice that Will Nordmeyer didn’t bother to deny the claim? He
instead presents what he claims is a greater concern! This is typical
of most all of them, and they always charge those who expose them with
mental problems. They then keep moving in telling us about some
Gospel we are going to HAVE TO accept whether we like it or not. They
are constanly giving us hints that some climactic crisis is ahead that
will force everyone to view matters the way they do OR ELSE! THEY ARE
ALREADY TALKING AS IF SOCIETY IS GOING TO DEMAND THAT WE ACCEPT THEIR
DEMANDS!!
You think this is an isolated case where professed Christians by their
actions claim that to name-call is worse than to brutally slay many
people and even bible-believers? We'll show you more!
We are Seventh-day Adventists, and as such we are constantly
undergoing strange circumstances and attacks by our fellow brethren in
the church. We later went on the internet and found out that the same
struggle and same strange people are there also. That's where we met
Ted Seeber and all the rest who moved in to help him from different
Christian denominations and from Witchdom! A friend alerted us to
strange things happening on the Seventh-day Adventist internet
discussion forums. We'd like you to see what went on and what still
goes on there. What does this have to do with you? YOU HAD BETTER
TAKE NOTES OF THE BEHAVIOR YOU ARE WITNESSING, FOR BY THAT YOU WILL BE
ABLE TO PREDICT THE FUTURE... YOUR FUTURE!!
There are several Adventist discussion forums around. We went to
investigate them and found that almost every single one of them as
Adventist discussion forums specialize in attacking Adventism and the
Adventist Church. They were all overburdened with posters who made a
constant and relentless attack upon the church often attacking with
every post. Almost all of them make relentless attack against one of
its key pioneering leaders: Ellen G. White. They all also had some
very noticeable similarities with Ted Seeber and the people who
defended him on the newsgroups. Is there a connection between these on
the Adventist discussion forums claiming to be Adventists and former
Adventists and the others we found on the newsgroups with Ted Seeber?
We are trying to show you there is an indelible connection!
How can this happen with the Adventist owners of the forums and
moderators there you ask? How is it they can tolerate the Adventist
Church and Ellen White being constantly and viciously attacked ON
THEIR OWN ADVENTIST FORUMS till those forums are dominated by such
attacks? The owners claim to be Adventists! Anyone browsing the
internet to even find out about Adventism sees most every Adventist
forum in existence constantly attacking it and misrepresenting it!
Those who attack claim that the forums are free and they therefore can
post anything they want regarding Adventism. The owners of the forum
come back and say the same things, giving condonance to what is going
on. They tell us the forums are free, they're not going to do
anything about it, and the reason we don't like the constant attacks
is because we hate people who disagree with us--JUST LIKE THE STRANGE
PEOPLE ON THE NEWSGROUPS!! We keep asking them who can be allowed to
disagree with their tyrannical accusations and they keep making the
accusations and ignoring our questions.
Why do the Adventist discussion forum owners allow these things? It
is because they actually hate Adventism also as we will show. THEY
HAVE ALL ALSO REVEALED THAT THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THE ADVENTIST CHURCH
TO CHANGE! We discovered that they actually weren't Adventists at
all! What does this have to do with Ted Seeber? What does this have
to do with you? Let's find out one step at a time to do it justice.
Not wanting to bore you, let's get to the dialogues.
We went into discussion with these strange people. One of the owners
of one "Adventist" discussion forum, J. R. Layman, the owner of the
Atomorrow "Adventist" forums, commented this about Brother Ted and the
other "Adventist" forums. This is one of those who claims he is
against censorship and wants all ideas to be freely expressed to
enhance our potential. If we post anything in any conclusive manner,
he supports the idea that we must add that it is just our personal
opinions, or at least behave as if that is the case. He has a
terrible agenda to CHANGE the Adventist Church in concert with the cry
for CHANGE in our government as well, claiming this is on the basis
that the church doesn't allow free expression of ideas. He then
enters into constant battle against all who do not think like he does
as do all the other strange participants on the internet, not allowing
others to disagree. In his attacks, this is what he says against
Brother McMillan who disagrees with him. He says about his Adventist
internet discussion forum to Brother McMillan:
"Even funnier is the FACT that this is the ONLY Adventist orientated
forum which continues to allow you to post your baloney...."
Baloney? According to J. R. Layman? In his opinion? (the expression
they like to use against those who differ with them) Are these the
ones fighting for freedom of ideas and beliefs? He continues:
The fact that your post are frequently pruned and pasted
here.............is simply IMO good forum management. So you don't
ruin the atmosphere for all posters/members. EVERY OTHER REPUTABLE
FORUM WHICH ATTRACTS ADVENTIST FROM ALL SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM HAVE
THROWN YOU OFF!!!!!!!!! Is that not true?" [Caps here are J. R.
Layman's own].
Whenever Brother Ted comes on J. R. Layman's forum or anyone who
opposes his agenda, he moves their posts and inquiring questions to
different places on the forum and typically may label them as on some
of the other forums: "The Dump", "Ted's Place," or anything he wants
while claiming to favor free expression. This he does to all who
effectively irritates him by giving questions he and his equally
strange friends know they dare not answer. But then I must let you
know that it is true that Brother Ted was kicked off of practically
every "Adventist" forum decrying censorship and claiming to support
free expression of every idea. We are going to really show you why!
Our first exhibit is found here below. When you go there...
PLEASE WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU HAVE NOTICED WITH THEIR BEHAVIOR. WE ARE
NOT KIDDING!!
YOU NEED TO DO THIS!!
Please go now to the following webpage AND COME BACK ONCE YOU HAVE
FINISHED READING!! WE HAVE A MAJOR SURPRISE FOR YOU JUST AFTER!!
This is one of the major "Adventist" internet discusson forums called
ClubAdventist:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/JesuitPara.html
Notice how Brother Ted was kicked off. He began asking them very
convicting questions the strange people knew they couldn't afford to
answer. He tormented them with these questions. Though the questions
were always ignored for obvious reasons, it was clear that they had
their affect. Nobody else were asking the questions Brother Ted was
asking.
These posters brought every form of deceit. Brother Ted revealed what
the deception was. He then asked them questions. How are they going
to answer? It is clear that they can't answer. In this case the
problem was why Stan Jensen always allowed a huge attack on the
Adventist Church to dominate his forum continually claiming this is
the price of liberty and freedom, but when Brother Ted brought up the
subject of Jesuit infiltration into the Adventist Church, the US
government, media, educational systems, etc., he had to shut it down.
What then can Stan Jensen do? Apologize? To do so means he will have
to either stop the constant attack against the Adventist Church on his
system, or else allow the subject of the problem--Jesuit
infiltration--to be discussed. From thence it is clear he cannot do
this. So he has to follow one of the major codes of the Jesuits in
order to accomplish what he must do for his agenda. One of the major
principles of the Jesuit Oath is, "The End Justifies the Means!"
Being pushed to the wall and with an imperative to continue his work
against Adventism, the only thing he could do was to hypocritize
against his own principles and kick Brother McMillan off the forum.
That is what he did WITHOUT WARNING! He was asked about his actions,
but just babbled over the inquiries and made everyone to know that
there's nothing they can do about it!
Since they always pretended the questions were not asked and were
RELENTLESS in covering over them and taunting around them, Brother Ted
kept re-asking those questions just as often. There then comes a time
when they can't take it anymore, so the Jesuit owners of those forums
kick him off and then go into a campaign of babbling over their
censorship and pretending that's not what they're doing. They
constantly post in that Brother Ted is hateful as a common tactic and
use that to ignore the questions that he brings. They claim he is
hateful WITHOUT ALLOWING ANYONE TO DISAGREE. They keep posting about
the crime of accusing, personally attacking and "name-calling," since
Brother Ted exposed them as Jesuits: something they claim is a
name-call. AFTER THEY KICK HIM OFF, THEY STILL LEAVE HIS CONVICTING
QUESTIONS UNANSWERED, SHOWING THEY ONLY USED THE ACCUSATION AND
NAME-CALLING OF HATE AS A MEANS TO KICK HIM OFF. They all throughout,
name-call and personally attack him, endeavoring to teach him to avoid
uncivil posts by posting without civility to him.
When any Adventist talked about their church being destroyed through
infiltration from the inside, the Jesuits among them constantly worked
to quiet their concerns by telling them that Christ was in control of
everything and that Christ could handle any problem. They asked us
whether or not Christ was big enough to handle all problems within the
church and everywhere else. They told us to just relax, let go and
let God handle everything. Forget about any consideration of the
Jesuits. They said that good always wins out in the end and that we
must not accept a "works religion" where we move to the battle,
because the battle is the Lord's. Even if Jesuits do exist, they say,
don't try to fight them: God will!
Brother Ted then replied to them that they shouldn't worry about a
woman dead almost a hundred years by the name of Ellen White. He
tells them they are going to have to understand that God can handle
the poor little "false profit." They therefore don't have to
constantly infiltrate, post attacks, write books, create elaborate
websites that now far outnumber websites that support Ellen White!
They understood the meaning of these replies, so they just continued
ignoring, name-calling, accusing, slandering and insulting Brother Ted
and mix their constant teachings against these evils before, during
and after they do it! They continue to repeat their lies.
Have you heard some of these expressions before? Do they sound
familiar to you? PLEASE TAKE NOTES OF THE BEHAVIORS WE ARE SHOWING
YOU. WE ARE TRYING TO SHOW YOU THAT WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH IS FAR
MORE THAN JUST OUR PLIGHT!!
Knowing who they were, Brother Ted kept asking them questions they
couldn't answer so all would see how they were years trained to
deceive and divert from probing questions on topic and avoid them.
They claimed that we must only concentrate on Christ, but Brother Ted
reveals that they were trained in far more than Christ! Since these
people present themselves as so sensitive to "hate" and love, and
since they constantly posted what they claimed are the hideous crimes
of the Adventist Church that bothers the Christian life out of them,
Brother Ted intentionally posts some of the worst atrocities that were
done against Christians in the past BY ROME. Brother Ted knew this
would touch a very sensitive cord within the infiltrators. He posted
documents that caused our hairs to stand on end because they were the
most heinous and hateful things we have ever heard--including
documents containing the mandate that all non-Catholics MUST die, and
we saw that his purpose for doing that is to show others the nature of
these people!! All these postings made the strange people just yawn.
The strange posters then kept posting with constant emotion HOW WE ARE
HATEFUL FOR POSTING THEM! They did everything possible to show that
we are hateful for posting about the atrocities to avoid condemning
the atrocities themselves. THEY REFUSED TO CONDEMN EVEN ONE OF THOSE
ATROCITIES. As they issued these condemnations, as always, they gave
no allowance for anyone to disagree with their lies, but kept posting
how we don't allow others to disagree with us. It is time to show you
some of these dialogues so that you can get a shocking glimpse of how
this may impact you! What documents are we talking about? Well one
document in particular is what we call, "The Jesuit Oath." You can
find that Oath at the following URL:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/JesOath.htm
Understand however that there are different such oaths. Though they
are a few of them, they are all very similar. We are here referring
to the one in the link above.
--The first two paragraphs talk about how the Jesuits are supposed to
infiltrate to the point where they are supposed to condemn the Vatican
and the Pope as part of the process of gaining the confidence of their
enemies they are infiltrating. No one would think they are Jesuits if
they even condemn Catholicism.
--The next two paragraphs talk about how they are supposed to
infiltrate governments which are even opposed to each other. And work
to cause contentions among them to the point of causing bloodshed and
war. In that it says they are supposed to even put on a show of being
opposed to other Jesuits in different governments having a show of
contrasting political principles and agendas when they are actually
working for a unified underlying purpose for Rome behind the scenes.
--The fifth paragraph shows all the areas of life they are supposed to
infiltrate: all areas BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY AREAS OF POWER, INFLUENCE
AND CONTROL. Here is where you will find them always in the greatest
concentration. As they do that they are supposed to act like spies
and to gather as much INFORMATION about what's going on around them as
possible and about those whom they meet.
--The seventh paragraph appears to have an initiation: killing a
heretic to qualify for the office.
--The eighth paragraph is a promise to wage RELENTLESS war against all
Protestants and liberals (or who believe in the principles of freedom:
not the "liberals" we are accustomed to understanding in our society
today) and to ultimately annihilate them from off the earth even to
the point of ripping up the wombs of their women or crushing their
infants heads against walls. In other words to destroy their enemies
along with any possibility of them being reproduced through
procreation!
--The ninth paragraph shows what is to be done if annihilating their
enemies cannot be accomplished openly. They are to do it secretly
THROUGH EVEN USING POISONS!
IS THIS OATH TRUE? IS IT TRUE THAT JESUITS AND OTHER ORDERS OF THE
PAPACY MAKE SUCH OATHS?? Let's examine this.
They have moved heaven and hell to try to show us that the Jesuit Oath
(or at least this one) is a hoax and is a "fake document" on the
google newsgroup records. They then claim that they CANNOT CONDEMN A
FAKE DOCUMENT. From the beginning we asked them to condemn the
atrocities we post LIKE THEY CONDEMN US. We did this knowing who they
are and knowing, as then, they cannot afford to do this, and THEY ARE
STILL IN FAVOR OF SUCH ATROCITIES. When they lie to us telling us
they cannot condemn a fake document, we asked them whether or not they
have condemned Protestant writings such as Foxe's Book of Martyrs.
That is an extensive and conservative record of the atrocities of Rome
against the Protestants throughout the Christian age. They didn't
answer the question, knowing that they have often condemned that work.
We then asked them why Foxe's Book of Martyrs is true since they can
condemn it. They ignored our question.
Here is one such thread where they did everything to try and convince
us that these Oaths are fakes:
Notice how persistently and relentlessly they posted, trailing all our
posts with even repetitive messages as if to address some emergency!
THEY REFUSE TO EVEN JUST CONDEMN THE WORDS OF HATE IN THE JESUIT OATH
LIKE THEY CONDEMN US. They frequently posted to each other that we
post nonsense, were mentally ill and should be ignored or "killfiled"
(meaning put on their ignore lists [if not anything else literally!]).
The problem is, contrary to their admonitions to ignore us, the Jesuit
Oath demands RELENTLESS warfare against their enemies. WHICH IS GOING
TO WIN OUT? You got it! The Jesuit Oath! So they constantly post
without letup and trail our posts. We constantly ask them why they
keep trailing the posts of mentally ill people, and they ignore us and
continue to follow the Jesuit Oath by relentlessly posting against us.
But then we brought up another issue, and that is the Ustashis of
WWII. Who were they? They were the most brutal killers known to man
in the 20th century! They were Catholics, and, as for centuries
historically--though still denied--they demanded that all others
convert to Catholicism or die often in the most heinous and disgusting
ways! What would be the response about the atrocities committed by
the Ustashis? They told us that the Jesuit Oath is fake and they
therefore cannot condemn something that is untrue. Can they say that
the Ustashis did not exist? They absolutely refused to condemn the
Ustashis also!
The record of atrocities done by the Ustashis included pushing their
victims off of cliffs, pushing them live into furnaces, and one
popular atrocity against their victims was to gourge their eyes out of
their sockets! Reading these hateful crimes was futile to the strange
people posting on the internet who were very sensitive to
"name-calling." Not only did they show apathy, THEY ALWAYS REVERTED
THE FORCE OF THE CRIMES BACK UPON US WHO REVEALED THEM, claiming that
they only see supreme hatred in us, and how we were demonic and evil.
They did everything to divert from what was shown. THEY DID
EVERYTHING TO AVOID CONDEMNING THOSE ACTIONS!! TO THIS DAY THEY
CONDEMNED NONE OF THE ATROCITIES BROUGHT BEFORE THEM! Yet another
point mentioned in the Grigozono letter below that the Ustashis did
was that they CRUSHED INFANTS HEADS AGAINST WALLS!! This is following
the exact wording of the Jesuit Oath! The Ustashis, in order to show
their delight in their mass murders, ACTUALLY PHOTOGRAPHED THEMSELVES
TO SHOW THEIR JOY TO THEIR SUPERIORS WHOSE ORDERS THEY WERE CARRYING
OUT TO CRUCIFY ALL NATURAL AFFECTION IN ORDER TO CARRYOUT THEIR
COMMANDS! Want to see some? Try this link:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/Grizogono.htm
Privislav Grigozono was a Catholic Croat who in the link above details
conservatively the crimes of the Ustashis. ALL THIS TOOK PLACE IN THE
1940s AND SERVE AS A CONTINUATION OF EVENTS DOCUMENTED IN PROTESTANT
HISTORICAL RECORDS!
HERE IS A VERY KEY POINT THAT ULTIMATELY WILL AFFECT YOU! THEY
REFUSED TO CONDEMN THE ATROCITIES OF THE USTASHIS, THE ATROCITIES
DOCUMENTED IN THE JESUIT OATH, AND LASTLY, THEY REFUSED TO CONDEMN TED
SEEBER FOR APPROVING OF THE MASSACRE OF ALL NON-CATHOLICS! TO THIS
DAY EVEN THE "ADVENTISTS" THAT ENTERED TO ATTACK BROTHER MCMILLAN,
REFUSED TO EVEN CONTRADICT OR CONDEMN SEEBER'S ATTACKS AGAINST LIBERTY
AND THE CONSTITUTION, WHILE CONSTANTLY ACCUSING US OF NOT ALLOWING
OTHERS TO DISAGREE WITH US! They have condemned Catholic doctrines
before, but they absolutely could not bring themselves to publicly
condemn the atrocities we brought before them detailing the attitudes
of the killers with each action! WHY? Let's find out!
Let's see what EVEN THE NAZIS thought about the atrocities of the
Ustashis IN COMPARISON TO THESE POSTERS ON THE NEWSGROUPS:
Worldmark Encyclopedia of the Nations, Europe, edition 1995, page 91,
entry: Croatia
Quote:
Slavko Kvaternik [the second in command to the Croatian WWII fuehrer,
Dr Ante Pavelic] explained [on the day of formation of the WWII
"Independent State of Croatia", on April 10, 1941] HOW PURE CROATIA
SHOULD BE BUILT - by forcing one third of the Serbs to leave Croatia,
one third to convert to Catholicism, and one third to be EXTERMINATED.
Soon Ustasha bands initiated a BLOODY ORGY of mass murder of Serbs
unfortunate enough not to have converted or left Croatia on time. THE
ENORMITY OF SUCH CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR SHOCKED EVEN THE CONSCIENCE OF
GERMAN COMMANDERS...
(End quote)
So terrible were the crimes that were done by the Ustashis, that when
THE NAZIS heard of them, they were cut to the heart! BUT THE POSTERS
ON THE INTERNET YAWNED THEM OFF AND REVERTED ALL CONDEMNATION UPON
US!! NOT EVEN A SINGLE MENTION OF REGRET OR CONSTERNATION WAS SHOWN!
THEY DIDN'T DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE USTASHIS! They continued to
constantly post that we hated "all Catholics" shown by our condemning
the Ustashis. We objected and asked why the Ustashis are
representatives of "all Catholics." We said we don't think all
Catholics would want the Ustashis to be their representatives. They,
claiming to come from different denominations, still continued to
complain in the air constantly how we hate and condemn ALL Catholics
because we expose the Ustashis or EVERYBODY who disagrees with us.
They continued their activities without letup!
They then brought in another lying concept. They kept telling us that
they couldn't condemn the Ustashis because the victims of the Ustashis
also killed some of the Ustashis, and therefore no one could pinpoint
who is to blame! That is actually just an assumption. It is assumed
that a few of the Ustashis were killed by their victims during that
terrible period of modern barbarism. They brought in a new lie that
BLAME IS SHARED and kept posting this lie! They did this over and
over again repetitively. Is this lie true?
How do we know that was a lie? This was proven false just by their
actions on the forums and Brother Ted was again witty enough to point
them out. They claim we must never name-call and that we are evil for
doing it. We were constantly name-called by these people telling us
not to do that. Since both sides indulged in this, no one can
pinpoint blame? Why then do they ONLY attack us for this exceeding
great crime of hate to them called name-calling? Brother Ted then
kept reminding them about the US response to 911, and asked if they
before had presented their case about blame being shared against the
Bush Administration since it took blood in response to 911 in
Afghanistan. Of course, they had to ignore this question also and go
to the next lie! Lastly, we brought out how, if they couldn't figure
out which side was the cause of the problem or actually thought that
blame was shared, THE NAZIS SURELY WERE ABLE TO! They were shocked at
the brutality of the Ustashis, BUT NOT ABOUT ANY BRUTALITY OF THEIR
VICTIMS. The quote above demonstrates where the problem in that
conflict lay showing how the Ustashis planned to make their country
100% Catholic.
The strange posters even earlier defended the Ustashis, telling us
that PICTURES CAN BE FAKED, to coverup the unbelievable history:
(They called Brother McMillan the "Anti-Ted" because Ted Seeber also
had the same first name.)
This they did after already easily condemning David Koresh and the
Branch Davidians based upon what they claimed were the pictures that
were shown on TV. They saw the necessity of bringing up this new
concept that pictures can be faked after the Ustashis, who made David
Koresh look like Pee Wee Herman, were being discussed.
Therefore to this date, NOT ONE ATROCITY WAS CONDEMNED BY THEM, NOT
ONE STATEMENT AGAINST LIBERTY AND THE CONSTITUTION WAS CONDEMNED OR
OPPOSED BY THEM, BUT THEY FROTHED AT THE MOUTH TO EASILY CONDEMN US
FOR EXPOSING THOSE THINGS, CONSTANTLY LABELING US WITH THE WORD
"HATE!" We are trying to show you there is a reason for this that is
linked with the future. There is a reason for their constantly
attaching the accusation of hate against us. It is actually a death
wish against us for the future!
But now again, the question is why there seems to be a movement to
conceal past atrocities. Again, why did they do these things? Why
was it so important to make sure not one condemnation of atrocities
was found to come from them? Hold on to your hats now and brace
yourselves for this one! The reason why they did this was...
HOMELAND SECURITY/ANTI-TERRORISM!!
YOU HEARD RIGHT FOLKS!!
Brother Ted has constantly been irritated at those who sided with the
government after September 11th when they moved in to again attack the
liberties of the people claiming such liberties had to be limited for
security. We heard that before in the history of brutal regimes. He
was constantly irritated when he heard many agreeing to be deceived
into the thought that they don't have to worry about the government
snooping out their personal information just so long as they have
nothing to hide.
Now comes the awesome conclusion and awesome fact many did not
understand. Any free government under change that transforms to a
tyrannical one WILL BECOME INCREASINGLY INTERESTED IN WHO EVERYONE IS
AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE OR HOW THEY THINK. When we warred against the
strange posters on the Adventist discussion forums, they were very
quickly into our profiles and complained that we provided very little
information there. That was always a profound interest to them even
though they constantly told us our focus was to always only be upon
Christ. WHY?
BECAUSE WHEN A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT IS FULLY MANIFESTED, ITS FIRST
MISSION IS TO...
DEAL WITH ITS ENEMIES!! We're not talking about dealing with its
enemies over their behavior AFTER the new tyrannical government is
established. We're talking about a tyrannical government GOING INTO
PAST RECORDS DURING TIMES WHEN A FREE GOVERNMENT EXISTED IN ORDER TO
KNOW WHO MIGHT GIVE THEM TROUBLE OR WHO WILL HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH!
Such a government WILL SEEK THROUGH RECORDS TO DETECT PAST ACTIONS OF
THOSE WHO LIVED UNDER A FREE GOVERNMENT. IT WILL THEN PENALIZE SUCH
INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR PAST ACTIONS OR STATEMENTS!
YOU DON'T GET IT??? The following is what Brother McMillan posted on
the alt.religion.christian.adventist newsgroup, September 23, 2001,
under the title, "Re: SECURITY VS. PRIVACY". In this and other
threads, Brother McMillan was contending against Ted Seeber who was
condemning the American Constitution AND YET SHOWING CONFIDENCE TO OUR
NATIONAL LEADERS:
Well those are the issues with government. Government positions are
now filled with globalists as these internet media and forums are
filled with them. The Communists and the Nazis were globalists. How
can anyone in common sense seeing that our government is becoming more
and more tyrannical, come to the conclusion that they have nothing to
worry about with their privacy because they are not doing anything
wrong today? If you even post that you favor liberty in any way
[liberty as we know it today], YOU ARE AN OUTLAW TOMORROW!
We're talking about CONSTITUTIONAL liberty here. The enemies to it
believe what they are supporting is liberty also just as Seeber does,
BUT IN THEIR VERSION OF IT! Remember Seeber telling us what true
liberty is? Remember he said he wants the ability to bind people in
chains so they can demonstrate their liberty?
"The church . . . does not, and cannot accept, or in any degree favor,
liberty in the Protestant sense of liberty." -- (Catholic World,
April, 1870.)
But actually if you support the present CONSTITUTIONAL liberty, you
are a POTENTIAL outlaw tomorrow. If you condemn the atrocities and
detail the sub-animalistic and hateful qualities of the killers, YOU
WILL BE A POTENTIAL VICTIM OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT TO COME AS THEY SIFT
THROUGH RECORDS OF ALL YOU SAID OR WROTE IN OUR PRESENT AND FREE
GOVERNMENT. FOR THOSE ATROCITIES WILL AGAIN BECOME A WAY OF LIFE (OR
DEATH)! BUT THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THOSE VATICANS POSTING ALSO
CONDEMNED ATROCITIES THAT ARE PLANNED TO RETURN? IF THOSE VATICANS
POSTING DID THE SAME THINGS...
THEY WOULD BE THREATENED TO BE CONDEMNED ALSO!! They therefore
couldn't afford to do this! That would jeopardize their lives and
curtail the killings of innocent people soon to come as had always
been the historical practice of any Vatican-dominated environment
where there were no reprisals for them to worry about! The killers
will not want to be forced to exterminate their own!
Think this is a lie? Well just look at the facts:
We know that after September 11th, the Bush Administration moved
swiftly to show us that the Constitution of the United States was the
enemy! They told us that they had to update their anti-terrorism
policy by seeking to do what they had been seeking to do for a long
time before September 11: limit or eradicate the liberties of the
people.
WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID IN UPDATING THEIR ANTI-TERRORISM POLICIES WAS
TO NOT UPDATE BUT REGRESS THE CONSTITUTION!
THAT WAS JUST ABOUT ALL THEY DID!
They then put their ALREADY CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT snooping devices
CREATED WELL BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11! Remember the FBI even insisted that
Carnivore, a powerful system created to snoop and archive all email
and other internet transmissions, was legal for them to build and
implement WELL BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11 AND UNDER MUCH OPPOSITION FROM TRUE
AMERICANS! Such a device was never created before. Why? BECAUSE IT
WAS ILLEGAL OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO BUILD OR IMPLEMENT!! Now the
government worked to legally use this and other unconstitutional
devices. If they were legal already to use, they would not have
needed September 11th to claim they can now use it. THEY HAVE ALWAYS
BEEN USING IT, but not legally! People have opposed them even on the
internet for their unconstitutional behavior. It was reported that
inquirng posts were deleted or bleeped as is the constant habit of the
strange posters and owners of the "Adventist" internet discusssion
forums!
However in the Anti-terrorism bill proposed by the Bush
Administration, they were showing us what was the enemy to national
security. They proposed that the government be given the ability to
declare who is a terrorist. They claimed that judicial review should
not be allowed--EVEN JUDGES COULD NOT REVIEW THEIR ACTIONS!! That was
another enemy to national security also. Such a provision would not
be needed if actions are expected to be Constitutional or correct.
They claimed that any person accused by the government of terrorism
would be not given the ability to defend himself. It would not even
be required that he face his accusers nor answer for himself. That
was another enemy to national security according to them. In this
they claimed that the accused could be tried and condemned in secret
without even knowing what he is being accused of! This, they claimed,
was necessary FOR NATIONAL SECURITY lest by trials the government is
forced to reveal classified information that may threaten their
foreign policy or national security. Anyone remotely accused of
aiding one declared to be a terrorist by the government even in the
most innocent of fashions could be like punished! YOU REALLY NEED TO
STUDY THE INQUISITIONS PEOPLE!!
Senator Orin Hatch was among those fighting against the right for
"terrorists" to have due process of law. Why did I put the word
"terrorists" in quotation marks? Well let's find out:
He claimed that no "terrorist" should have due process of law or a
trial of any kind. The problem was what made a terrorist classified
as a terrorist. What made the terrorist a terrorist? The answer WAS
THAT THE PERSON WAS SO ACCUSED BY THE GOVERNMENT!! After that, no
trial, no ability to defend himself. The person would then disappear
off the face of the map without anyone knowing what happened to him
JUST LIKE THE INQUISITIONS!! In this they struggled to fool the
American people! How do you know he is a terrorist if he is not
tried? According to these people, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO KNOW HE
IS A TERRORIST!! "WE THE PEOPLE" now has a new meaning!
We have shown that this is not the first time clearly Nazi principles
were shown to be the secret pet of our now converted national leaders.
Long before September 11th there has always been a terrible war
between the government and people who love the Constitution and know
what she is doing. True Americans have been found hanging around
sources of media that presents things they never hear from the
national media. These private sources equip them with information AND
QUESTIONS FOR OUR NATIONAL LEADERS that they know they dare not
address! This is the same scenario we encounter on the internet. But
as regards national security in Anti-terrorism, principles very
similar were also proposed by the Clinton Administration under the
same concern: terrorism. They also were proposing that the enemy is
the Constitution of the United States. See the evidence here:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/CommonAntiterrorism.htm
All of our forgotten history taught us that no American would even
have such dreams IN THEIR SLEEP AND BE AMERICAN!! No person who knows
what it is to be American would even dream of such provisions in his
sleep! We got all intense against the threat against liberty, but
then wound up detaining people suspected of terrorism without giving
them any rights? It was all done as if the government couldn't wait
to show her true colors AFTER ALREADY KNOWING ABOUT THE DISTRUST OF
GOVERNMENT! SORRY! True Americans would not dream in their sleep to
be tyrannical, nor would any form of paranoia compel them to do these
things. You have to already be tyrannical to do tyrannical things!
All Americans used to know that any such are enemies to this
Republic!! These are not the same people in control now who were in
control during WWII! I keep hearing a comparison with America during
WWII to America now. I tell you, THERE IS NO COMPARISON!! It gets
worse as time goes on!
=============================
The time soon came when FINALLY, they condemned the Jesuit Oath.
They, however, did it in a very strange way. After calling us
mentally ill constantly, finally they were able to acknowledge us as
the trailblazers in condemning the hate found in the Jesuit Oath and
in the Ustashis, BUT THEY DID IT IN A STRANGE WAY. Take a look below
and see if you can figure out what the subject is doing.
First comment after the Jesuit Oath was FINALLY condemned, AND THAT
NOT IN THE WAY WE HAD ASKED AND NOT NEARLY CONDEMNED AS WE ARE
CONSTANTLY CONDEMNED:
Larson is asked to condemn the Jesuit Oath like he condemns us:
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From: Susan Williams (salet...@rocketmail.com)
Subject: #CONDEMN THE JESUIT OATH LIKE YOU CONDEMN US!!
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On 31 Jan 2003 13:24:01 GMT, "Larson" <mye...@isprivate.com> wrote:
>
>"Susan Williams" <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
>news:hdrj3vg71n069kf47...@4ax.com...
>> On 30 Jan 2003 13:19:26 GMT, "Larson" <mye...@isprivate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> The man has lots of questions to answer that would be committing
>> suicide, BUT the Jesuit Oath allows provisions to lie and deceive:
>>
Larson replies:
>The Jesuit Oath is a lie.
Susan reiterates:
Why then do you keep it?
Larson continues:
>A fabrication.
Susan reiterates since Larson and the rest just constantly repeat
their lies:
Why then do you keep it?
Larson continues:
>It is entered in the
>Congressional Record as PROOF of wrongdoing by people supporting a
>non-Catholic candidate against a Catholic candidate in elections in the
>early 1900s.
Susan reiterates:
What proof do you have of this? Just because another Catholic says so?
Where is the evidence?
Now listen to the strange way Larson condemns the Jesuit Oath, still
with the lie claiming it is a fabrication:
>I condemn the lie called various things - the Jesuit Oath, the Knights of
>Columbus Oath, the Priest's Oath in it's entirety and many forms.
Susan requests:
Tell us about the hate found in it. Expound upon it. You are avoiding
doing that BECAUSE YOU DO MANY OF THE THINGS PRESCRIBED IN IT!
Larson, speaking to the other killers:
>Susan
>won't be satisfied with that.
Susan again responds:
Not till you stop keeping the Oath!
Larson, speaking to the other killers:
>Susan thinks that condemning the entire thing
>isn't good enough, that someone should go through and condemn it line by
>line.
Susan responds:
Susan thinks that condemning Susan line by line constantly and
continually is more than good enough since I killed no one and you all
pretended to go nuts about hate, but have only been accusing me of it
and don't go nuts at the horrible words of the most hateful document
known to man that the Ustashis and others of your colleagues, along
with yourselves, kept.
Larson now again condemns the Jesuit Oath, still with the lie that it
is not true. These have told us it is impossible to condemn a fake
document. Now, well, they changed their minds again and saw the light
always first recognized by the Vaticanly mentally ill:
>Fine... I condemn EACH AND EVERY LINE of the many forms of the lie called
>the Jesuit Oath. The hatred within such a lie is to be completely condemned.
Susan responds:
Tell us about those lines as you went through all hell in your
obedience to the Jesuit Oath to show that we are the most hateful and
lying people in the world. What sense does it make constantly trailing
us line by line when we have killed no one?
Larson continues:
>I further condemn the hatred and malice in the people who manufactured such
>a lie.
Susan repeats again:
Expound upon it and compare those people who made the Oath to the hate
you all claimed and spent hours line by line trying to show that was
contained in us for being upset about killers both in history and
Seeber who just recently condemned human life.
In His Grace,
Susan
Question more forcefully represented in my questions against the
abominable Stephen Quist:
TAKE NOTE OF ALL HIS TACTICS!!!
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From: Susan Williams (salet...@rocketmail.com)
Subject: #HARD FOR JESUITS TO CONDEMN THE JESUIT OATH!!
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 06:14:16 -0700, "Stephen Quist"
<qui...@NmOsSePiA-Mco.com> wrote:
>Susan Williams wrote:
>:: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:59:37 -0700, "Stephen Quist"
>:: <qui...@NmOsSePiA-Mco.com> wrote:
>::
>::: Susan Williams wrote:
>::::: On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 06:47:12 -0700, "Stephen Quist"
>::::: <qui...@NmOsSePiA-Mco.com> wrote:
>:::::
>:::::: Susan Williams wrote: [regarding the Jesuit Oath]
>::::::
>:::::::: NO REASON HAS BEEN GIVEN YET FOR WHY SO MANY PEOPLE KEEP IT,
>:::::::: AND WHY THOSE SAME PEOPLE REFUSE TO CONDEMN THE HATE FOUND
>:::::::: WITHIN IT THOUGH OTHER DOCUMENTS AND OTHER CLAIMS ARE
>:::::::: CONDEMNED FOR HATE WITHOUT A PROBLEM!
Stephen Quist:
>:::::: What is it you want?
>::::::
>:::::: This?
>::::::
>:::::: I condemn the hate found in the so-called Jesuit Oath. I abjure
>:::::: it. That the Jesuit Oath is a fraud in no way diminishes the
>:::::: condemnation I give its spirit of hate.
>::::::
>:::::: I condemn the hate that drove someone to invent this fraud.
>::::::
>:::::: OK?
Susan Williams:
>::::: Can you be just a little more specific so that the time you used
>::::: to go nuts over out posts may somehow even hope to match up with
>::::: the worst and most hateful document found in the world today?
Stephen Quist:
>::: It stands condemned in its entirety. What is the point of condemning
>::: each of its vile clauses?
Susan Williams:
>:: First answer why you damned keepers of the Jesuit Oath found it
>:: necessary to condemn each and every movement of myself and Brother
>:: Ted and now reason with your Jesuit Oath selves to ask what is the
>:: point of condemning THE MOST HATEFUL DOCUMENT KNOWN TO MAN PIECE BY
>:: PIECE WITH EACH OF ITS VILE CLAUSES??
Stephen Quist using his supreme training in deceit to lengthen out an
argument continuing to ask the question:
>But we did condemn it. Entirely. Is there a point to going through
>it clause by vile clause?
Susan Williams has to repeat herself constantly:
What is the point going through us with accusations of insanity,
irrantionality, hate, and mental illness clause by clause again?
I mean, Antichrist Quist, WHY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS WHEN THE JESUIT
OATH FREES YOU FROM DOING SO?
By the way, why did we have to time you sinister killers by the
calendar year before you even thought to condemn the most hateful
document known to man? What was all that stalling by telling us since
the document is fake it must not be commented upon?
Susan Williams:
>::::: Why no comment about the damned people who conceived it??
Stephen Quist:
>::: I did make a comment when I said, "I condemn the hate that drove
>::: someone to invent this fraud."
Susan Williams:
>:: Why couldn't you have just condemned Brother Ted and myself that way?
>:: Why couldn't your superb reasoning hold by just saying to your damned
>:: Jesuit Oath selves: "Ted McMillan and Susan stand condemned in their
>:: entirety. What is the point of condemning each and everything they
>:: do and trail their posts?"
Stephen Quist:
>I don't condemn you.
Susan Williams:
As I said before you decided to obey the Jesuit Oath again: Why
couldn't you have just condemned Brother Ted and myself that way?
Why couldn't your superb reasoning hold by just saying to your damned
Jesuit Oath selves: "Ted McMillan and Susan stand condemned in their
entirety. What is the point of condemning each and everything they do
and trail their posts?"
Stephen Quist:
>::: I condemn the person or people who
>::: strove to cast aspersions on faithful Catholics by inventing this
>::: document which was designed to deceive the ignorant.
Susan Williams:
>:: You mean like Ted McMillan and me? Why can't you just condemn us in
>:: our entirety? Why make such...
Stephen Quist cut off the statement in his response in order to more
put readers in circles by saying:
>No. I do not believe you wrote that document. Did you?
>
>Steve
Susan Williams:
Again I say,
You mean like Ted McMillan and me? Why can't you just condemn us in
our entirety SINCE YOU OBEYED THE JESUIT OATH AND LIED SAYING THAT WE
STROVE TO CAST ASPERSIONS ON FAITHFUL CATHOLICS??
The Jesuit Oath is known to make a man deadly, mean and without
conscience...
NOWHERE DO WE SEE IT MAKING MEN STUPID UNLESS IT IS WILLINGLY SO!!
In His Grace,
Susan
What are they doing here? Are they really condemning the Jesuit Oath?
Frankly NO! What they are doing is making it look like it’s
condemned, but they are at the same time protecting themselves from
the Inquisition to come. They claim that they condemn EVERY HATEFUL
line in the Jesuit Oath and the Ustashis. The issue then becomes,
WHAT IN THE JESUIT OATH IS HATEFUL, AND WHAT DID THE USTASHIS EVER DO
THAT WAS HATEFUL.
<<<<IN STEPHEN QUISTS MIND, HOW MANY HATEFUL THINGS DID THE USTASHIS
DO? IN STEPHEN QUIST’S DARK MIND, WHAT IN THE JESUIT OATH IS HATEFUL?
WHAT IN THE ACTIONS OF THE USTASHIS AND IN THE JESUIT OATH IS HATEFUL
TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER TO COME UNDER UNION WITH ROME??? THE ANSWER
IS:
NOTHING! NADA! ZILCH! ZIP!
Now watch again the comparison to how these people claimed to have
condemned the Jesuit Oath, in comparison to how they condemn us. In
this example we will take a look at Larson again:
Larson despots to us that we do hate Catholics citing our exposes
about them and going into details he refused to do with the Jesuit
Oath and the Ustashis. The argument for sharing of blame again fails
here:
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From: Larson (mye...@isprivate.com)
Subject: Re: #WHY CONSTANTLY CONDEMN THE JESUIT OATH??
View: Complete Thread (113 articles)
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.adventist,
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, tnn.religion.catholic
Date: 2003-02-07 05:19:19 PST
> >> > "? R. L. Measures" <^2...@vc.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:^2-0502030...@207.178.185.100...
> >> > > In article <3E4049DF...@yahoo.com>, "Tom A."
> >> > > <meteoric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >...
> >> > > > >>>** Do Hindus and Jews go to Heaven ?
> >> > > > >>
Larson:
> >> > > > >>They do, if they die with saving grace.
R. L. Measures:
> >> > > > > ** such as ?
Larson:
> >> > > > Such as what?
R. L. Measures:
> >> > > ** what is an example "saving grace"?
Larson:
> >> > God's blessing on them, welcoming them into Heaven.
R. L. Measures:
> >> ** so there's even a chance for them damned witches the Church burned at
> >> the stake prior to 1830?
Larson:
> >Actually, generally Protestants burned witches...
R. L. Measures:
> >There's a chance for everyone Rich.
Susan Williams intervenes:
> You mean there's a chance for the man who condemned all non-Catholics
> to persecution and death possessing the same beliefs as the Ustashis?
Larson:
There is a chance for everyone. The question is do we do what is
required to accept that chance?
Susan Williams:
> He just spoke words and committed no crime, but when we reported it,
> we hated Catholics and were very evil criminals?
Larson:
You do hate catholics.... you continually post hateful lies about
Catholics... me, Stephen Quist, and others.
Notice how he not only gave the condemnation, BUT WENT INTO WHY! He
said we do hate Catholics, and then went into the BECAUSE! This was
something he always refused to do with the most hateful specimens of
human beings known to man.
Brother Ted found a devastating article about Japan trying to cover
her record of historical atrocities in her textbooks. He then entered
that article on his website:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/Contention.htm
In that article, an old Korean woman who was forced to provide sex for
Japanese soldiers during WWII strongly protested against the Japanese
government for doing that. She demanded that the Japanese government
post her past record of her atrocities. From this, Brother McMillan
has constantly been asking the strange posters on the internet
constantly accusing him of hating ALL CATHOLICS, HOW COME THE KOREAN
WOMAN HATES ALL JAPANESE PEOPLE!! Again, another question they
constantly ignored. The Korean lady noted one great identifier of her
persecutors and torturers during WWII WAS THEIR PROFOUND ABILITY AT
LYING. When she noted Japanese officials having that ability and
doing their best to cover over their past history of atrocities, SHE
UNDERSTOOD THAT THESE WERE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME THOUGHTS AND
CAPABILITIES!
But if you believe that all Christians were like that and just
outrightly persecuted and tortured like the Vatican has trained her
servants to do always and as we are being deceived into thinking,
please study the following webpage:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/RomeProtestantsSame.htm
This link proves that the killings we are talking about with the
Ustashis and documented in Protestant historical literature WERE
FUELED BY DOCTRINAL MANDATE!! We can show you written documents where
they confirm it is a stated mandate of their religion to kill all
those who differ with them in religion! Such documents cannot be
found in Protestant literature!
All this was documented on the Jack Chick website where we were warned
THAT THE INQUISITION IS COMING BACK! The new Anti-terrorism campaign
IS SECRETLY THE TONGUE OF THE INQUISITION!! Is what we are saying
real?
WE KNOW YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING MANY SUCH PEOPLE TO CONDEMN THE
ATROCITIES WE HAVE BROUGHT UP PIECE BY PIECE AS SHOWN HERE! WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE EVEN AROUND YOU! You should work to test out for
yourselves even people in influence, in positions in church and in
state to condemn these most hateful of all documented atrocities that
make Osama Bin Laden look like Gumby! Rome is noted for finally
making apologies for her unmatched history. She has however done so
in the same way as the trained killers we have shown you above. There
is no specific pointing to the actions. There are just basic
statements about her sins. Is the reason for that because it is
embarrassing? Not really. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT ROME KNOWS
THESE THINGS MUST CONTINUED BASED UPON HER NATURE. SHE ACTUALLY
THINKS THOSE ATROCITIES ARE BOTH DUTY AND PLEASURE!
What has she done historically that she now considers hateful or sins?
The answer is the same as how many hateful things Stephen Quist
believes the Ustashis committed and the Jesuit Oath documents. The
answer is NOTHING! NADA! ZILCH! ZIP! Proof is that we see her
trained killer scoundrels showing their training on the newsgroups,
and with that we have documentation that most who are trusted and in
power and influence are secretly the same!
In His Grace,
Susan
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