The Protestants, in keeping with Catholic tradition want a burning hell for babies to endue it for infinity... Jer. 25:27
old man joe
buying into that old Catholic idea of an eternal, burning, tormenting hell into which God
throws babies dying at birth for the single sin of what we call Original Sin, so they can
be in conscience torment for infinity is the doctrine of those so set in Catholicism,
though they be Protestant, is yet another sign of the great falling away from the Word of
God.
Catholic doctrine was set in stone centuries ago when they found a way to control the
ignorant peasants and wrangle money from them for the forgiveness of sins. the people
forming the early Catholic Church were wealthy and educated... everyone appointed to any
high office in it in those days was wealthy and educated.
it was then an easy thing to control superstitious peasants with the threat of an eternal
hell, Limbo and Purgatory... which the could buy their way out of as well as their little
ones. its no secret that the empire of Catholicism was built by paying for forgiveness of
sins for money.
this also addresses why the Catholic Church made it a big, big sin for any peasant to own
a Bible.
today's falling away of Protestant denominations carries with it the idea's formed early
on in Catholicism. the unbiblical God painted by Catholicism has a God who is nothing but
a cruel, mean, monster who throws babies into hell fire for the imputation of the single
sin of Adam set to their account for infinity. and infinity never ends. so parents, kiss
your babies good bye since unless they are saved they are determined to be in conscience
torment for infinity for the single sin we call Original.
thanks be to the Living God in Christ that the Bible teaches no such God.
what is taught in the Bible is the Living God who fits the punishment to the crime as in
Deu. 25:1-3 and Lk. 12:41-48. and the crime is paid for by death of the body and death of
the soul... the wages of sin is death and the soul that sins will die.
we are directed by the Word of God to search out the entire Bible in order to discover our
doctrine. doing this reveals the many different meaning's God place's on the Bible word
' eternal. ' eternal means the span of one's life, Ex. 21:6.
eternal means the time span of earth's existence from Creation until the Last Day, Ps.
73:12, where the word ' eternal ' is translated ' world. '
eternal also refers to the Living God who always existed, Ps. 90:2. most folks attach
this meaning to the word eternal when passages read " eternal destruction, " ( NASB ) or
" everlasting destruction " ( KJV ) in 2 Th. 1:9.
we know there are scores of passages which say plainly that when the unbeliever is dead he
is dead... he does not have eternal life so babies can burn in hell for infinity. that's
a Catholic idea they drew from the writings of the Greek philosopher Plato and capitalized
on it for money.
we know from Rev. 20:10-15 that there will be no more " day and night " once God destroys
this present universe to bring in the new heavens and the new earth. but rather than see
these passages at face value, people read into it and see there remains for infinity day
and night so babies dying at birth can burn in hell for ever... after being given eternal
life. there's not a passage in all of Holy Scripture where God gives eternal life to
heathen's.
obviously, then, the falling away has to do with people lovingly following doctrines of
demons. and this love is agape type love spoken of by Christ in Jn. 3:19.
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed!
good were it for that man if he had never been born.
Mark
9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that
believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about
his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee
to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into
the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee
to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell,
into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for
thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
duke
>buying into that old Catholic idea of an eternal, burning, tormenting hell into which God
>throws babies dying at birth for the single sin of what we call Original Sin
No such statement, but thinking you know what is in scripture is more than
expected of you.
Romans 5:12-14 (New International Version)
Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through
sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned� 13for before the
law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when
there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time
of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam,
who was a pattern of the one to come.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Rob
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:17:04 -0500, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >buying into that old Catholic idea of an eternal, burning, tormenting
hell into which God
> >throws babies dying at birth for the single sin of what we call Original
Sin
>
> No such statement, but thinking you know what is in scripture is more than
> expected of you.
>
> Romans 5:12-14 (New International Version)
> Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
> 12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death
through
before the
> law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account
when
> there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to
the time
> of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did
Adam,
> who was a pattern of the one to come.
>
>
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
father and vice versa?? The OT says that. It also says god visited the sins
of fathers upon their sons. That's a contradiction and adds to the argument
that the bible is fiction. Why should 6 billion people pay for what you say
one man named Adam did?? That's not justice. And if Jesus died for Adam's
sin, who died for Eve's?? That leaves one half of mankind still imperfect.
The bible fails again.
Parish *~
"Rob" <rob9...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
> father and vice versa?? The OT says that. It also says god visited the
> sins
> of fathers upon their sons. That's a contradiction and adds to the
> argument
> that the bible is fiction. Why should 6 billion people pay for what you
> say
> one man named Adam did?? That's not justice. And if Jesus died for Adam's
> sin, who died for Eve's?? That leaves one half of mankind still imperfect.
> The bible fails again.
>
>
There are hundreds of contradictions in the bible. Just Google "bible
contradictions."
--
The Bible is a chaotically cobbled together anthology of disjointed
documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by
hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and
mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries. This may explain
some of the sheer strangeness of the Bible. Unfortunately it is the same
weird volume that religious zealots hold up as the inerrant source of our
morals and rules for living. -=[Richard Dawkins The God Delusion]=-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
duke
>> Romans 5:12-14 (New International Version)
>> Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
>> 12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death
>through
>> sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned- 13for
>before the
>> law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account
>when
>> there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to
>the time
>> of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did
>Adam,
>> who was a pattern of the one to come.
>What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
>father and vice versa?? The OT says that.
Yet Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant and bring a new WAY. And Romans 5
says we are born with the stain of Adam's sinfulness just as we are born with 10
fingers and 10 toes. It's your choice to act.
> It also says god visited the sins
>of fathers upon their sons. That's a contradiction and adds to the argument
>that the bible is fiction.
Only for those that lack the ability to enjoin the two into one.
The NT is the next step to the OT.
> Why should 6 billion people pay for what you say
>one man named Adam did?? That's not justice.
It is if you think in terms of Adam exhibiting the sin stain as 1st man. We are
all born with that stain.
> And if Jesus died for Adam's sin, who died for Eve's??
Wow, what a silly question? Now I know why you don't understand.
> That leaves one half of mankind still imperfect.
>The bible fails again.
With your silly comment, it's confirmed accurate.
duke
>
>"Rob" <rob9...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4b47b7c3$0$4890$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>
>> What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
>> father and vice versa?? The OT says that. It also says god visited the
>> sins
>> of fathers upon their sons. That's a contradiction and adds to the
>> argument
>> that the bible is fiction. Why should 6 billion people pay for what you
>> say
>> one man named Adam did?? That's not justice. And if Jesus died for Adam's
>> sin, who died for Eve's?? That leaves one half of mankind still imperfect.
>> The bible fails again.
>There are hundreds of contradictions in the bible. Just Google "bible
>contradictions."
The bible is the revealed word of God written in the hand of man. Show just one
contradiction in God's word. There are hundreds of them in man's explanations
of a meaningless nature.
Parish *~
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 05:15:52 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>There are hundreds of contradictions in the bible. Just Google "bible
>>contradictions."
>
> The bible is the revealed word of God written in the hand of man.
Uh, no it isn't. That's what someone what an agenda claimed, yet there is
no proof or evidence any God inspired anything written in the old scrolls.
Show just one
> contradiction in God's word.
The entire bible contains 100s of contradictions. Google is your friend.
Ignore the perverts in your corrupt church.
There are hundreds of them in man's explanations
> of a meaningless nature.
Nature is meaningless? LOL!!!! Sober up.
--
The Bible is a chaotically cobbled together anthology of disjointed
documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by
hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and
mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries. This may explain
some of the sheer strangeness of the Bible. Unfortunately it is the same
weird volume that religious zealots hold up as the inerrant source of our
morals and rules for living. -=[Richard Dawkins OThe God Delusion]=-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Parish *~
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:52:59 -0500, "Rob" <rob9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
>>father and vice versa?? The OT says that.
>
> Yet Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant and bring a new WAY. And
> Romans 5
> says we are born with the stain of Adam's sinfulness just as we are born
> with 10
> fingers and 10 toes. It's your choice to act.
What absurd bullshit! You can't inherit "sin." There is no sin gene.
Also, this mythical Adam didn't "sin." He was tricked and beguiled as was
the mythical Eve. You don't commit some RCC sin because you were fooled and
tricked by a con man or woman.
>
>> It also says god visited the sins
>>of fathers upon their sons. That's a contradiction and adds to the
>>argument
>>that the bible is fiction.
>
> Only for those that lack the ability to enjoin the two into one.
So it says it but it doesn't say it..... LOL!!!! No wonder no one takes
you seriously.
>
>> Why should 6 billion people pay for what you say
>>one man named Adam did?? That's not justice.
>
> It is if you think in terms of Adam exhibiting the sin stain as 1st man.
> We are
> all born with that stain.
Nope! There is no "sin" gene. You don't commit some RCC sin because you
were fooled and tricked by a con man or woman. In the bible's case, a magic
mythical serpent. :)
>> And if Jesus died for Adam's sin, who died for Eve's??
>
> Wow, what a silly question? Now I know why you don't understand.
If it's so silly why can't you answer it?
The Parrish *~
--
"There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers
on their knees, with their eyes closed mumbling Goddidit."
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 05:15:52 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>There are hundreds of contradictions in the bible. Just Google "bible
>>>contradictions."
>>
>> The bible is the revealed word of God written in the hand of man.
>
>Uh, no it isn't. That's what someone what an agenda claimed, yet there is
>no proof or evidence any God inspired anything written in the old scrolls.
>
>Show just one
>> contradiction in God's word.
>
>The entire bible contains 100s of contradictions. Google is your friend.
>Ignore the perverts in your corrupt church.
>
>There are hundreds of them in man's explanations
>> of a meaningless nature.
>Nature is meaningless? LOL!!!! Sober up.
So let's see what you got.
I'll start off by, once again, pointing out that the bible is the revealed word
of God but written in the hand of man. Now that means those things in the bible
that address God's plans for mankind and the salvation of his soul is without
error, but the war stories used by ancient man to present these revealed plans
are in the culture style of the writer.
So tell me what is contradiction in God's plan for mankind's salvation? I
eagerly await your answer.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:knvgk5hd8k2ijm039...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:52:59 -0500, "Rob" <rob9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
>>>father and vice versa?? The OT says that.
>>
>> Yet Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant and bring a new WAY. And
>> Romans 5
>> says we are born with the stain of Adam's sinfulness just as we are born
>> with 10
>> fingers and 10 toes. It's your choice to act.
>What absurd bullshit! You can't inherit "sin." There is no sin gene.
Of course you can - it's the very essence of the sin nature that we are
addressing. Adam's sin was to tell God *no*, that he would decide right v wrong
and not God. The tree was a prop. And so the newly conceived are enjoined with
that sin nature. The selfishness of the new infant is openly apparent. The new
infant is unable to comprehend this issue until he reaches the age of young
adult maturity. Then he can make the conscience decision to repent and listen
to God.
>Also, this mythical Adam didn't "sin."
> He was tricked and beguiled as was
>the mythical Eve. You don't commit some RCC sin because you were fooled and
>tricked by a con man or woman.
God told them "do not....". They knew what that meant, and they elected to do
so anyway. They played God in place of God. That was, and remains, sin.
>> It is if you think in terms of Adam exhibiting the sin stain as 1st man.
>> We are all born with that stain.
>Nope! There is no "sin" gene. You don't commit some RCC sin because you
>were fooled and tricked by a con man or woman. In the bible's case, a magic
>mythical serpent. :)
What serpent??? It's the sin nature in man that we call satan.
Parish *~
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:33:38 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:530hk59m28ma6lhf9...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 05:15:52 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>There are hundreds of them in man's explanations
>>> of a meaningless nature.
>
>>Nature is meaningless? LOL!!!! Sober up.
>
> So let's see what you got.
Nature keep you alive.
>
> I'll start off by, once again, pointing out that the bible is the revealed
> word
> of God but written in the hand of man. Now that means those things in the
> bible
> that address God's plans for mankind and the salvation of his soul is
> without
> error, but the war stories used by ancient man to present these revealed
> plans
> are in the culture style of the writer.
So? No one disagreed on that. But first, you must produce irrefutable
scientific evidence of a God, any God.
>
> So tell me what is contradiction in God's plan for mankind's salvation? I
> eagerly await your answer.
Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods out there. Your God is just another
God among them and you know it.
Salvation from what and from who? The serial killing mass murdering
mythical God you happen to worship?
Parish *~
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:39:56 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:knvgk5hd8k2ijm039...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:52:59 -0500, "Rob" <rob9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
>>>>father and vice versa?? The OT says that.
>>>
>>> Yet Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant and bring a new WAY. And
>>> Romans 5
>>> says we are born with the stain of Adam's sinfulness just as we are born
>>> with 10
>>> fingers and 10 toes. It's your choice to act.
>
>>What absurd bullshit! You can't inherit "sin." There is no sin gene.
>
> Of course you can - it's the very essence of the sin nature that we are
> addressing.
That's absurd.... there is no sin gene. A "sin nature?" LOL!!!!! :-D Get
serious.
Adam's sin was to tell God *no*, that he would decide right v wrong
> and not God. The tree was a prop. And so the newly conceived are enjoined
> with
> that sin nature. The selfishness of the new infant is openly apparent.
> The new
> infant is unable to comprehend this issue until he reaches the age of
> young
> adult maturity. Then he can make the conscience decision to repent and
> listen
> to God.
Don't you realize even the Pope believes in evolution and that the story of
Adam and Eve is allegorical? It wasn't meant to be taken literally. How
can you be so ignorant of the beliefs of your own corrupt church?
>
>>Also, this mythical Adam didn't "sin."
>> He was tricked and beguiled as was
>>the mythical Eve. You don't commit some RCC sin because you were fooled
>>and
>>tricked by a con man or woman.
>
> God told them "do not....". They knew what that meant, and they elected
> to do
> so anyway. They played God in place of God. That was, and remains, sin.
It's moot because you fail to realize even the Pope believes in evolution
and that the story of Adam and Eve is allegorical? It wasn't meant to be
taken literally. How can you be so ignorant of the beliefs of your own
corrupt church?
>
>>> It is if you think in terms of Adam exhibiting the sin stain as 1st man.
>>> We are all born with that stain.
>
>>Nope! There is no "sin" gene. You don't commit some RCC sin because you
>>were fooled and tricked by a con man or woman. In the bible's case, a
>>magic
>>mythical serpent. :)
>
> What serpent??? It's the sin nature in man that we call satan.
Oh, now you changed Satan into a "nature" of man................ what next?
;-)
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making fast easy money."
* * * * * * * *
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:33:38 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:530hk59m28ma6lhf9...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 05:15:52 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>There are hundreds of them in man's explanations
>>>> of a meaningless nature.
>>
>>>Nature is meaningless? LOL!!!! Sober up.
>>
>> So let's see what you got.
>
>Nature keep you alive.
Nature is of God.
>> I'll start off by, once again, pointing out that the bible is the revealed
>> word
>> of God but written in the hand of man. Now that means those things in the
>> bible
>> that address God's plans for mankind and the salvation of his soul is
>> without
>> error, but the war stories used by ancient man to present these revealed
>> plans
>> are in the culture style of the writer.
>So? No one disagreed on that. But first, you must produce irrefutable
>scientific evidence of a God, any God.
No, I don't. Your welcome to toy with your eternal damnation all you want.
>> So tell me what is contradiction in God's plan for mankind's salvation? I
>> eagerly await your answer.
>Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods out there. Your God is just another
>God among them and you know it.
Then take you pick if you believe that. You said there are 10,000.
>Salvation from what and from who? The serial killing mass murdering
>mythical God you happen to worship?
Nope, that's just what your god told you about my living God almighty.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4ehjk5dg0uaap4gna...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:39:56 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:knvgk5hd8k2ijm039...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:52:59 -0500, "Rob" <rob9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>What about the verses that say the son will not pay for the sins of his
>>>>>father and vice versa?? The OT says that.
>>>>
>>>> Yet Jesus came to fulfill the old covenant and bring a new WAY. And
>>>> Romans 5
>>>> says we are born with the stain of Adam's sinfulness just as we are born
>>>> with 10
>>>> fingers and 10 toes. It's your choice to act.
>>
>>>What absurd bullshit! You can't inherit "sin." There is no sin gene.
>>
>> Of course you can - it's the very essence of the sin nature that we are
>> addressing.
>
>That's absurd.... there is no sin gene. A "sin nature?" LOL!!!!! :-D Get
>serious.
You have the same number of fingers and toes, don't you. You inherit there sin
nature also.
>>Adam's sin was to tell God *no*, that he would decide right v wrong
>> and not God. The tree was a prop. And so the newly conceived are enjoined
>> with
>> that sin nature. The selfishness of the new infant is openly apparent.
>> The new
>> infant is unable to comprehend this issue until he reaches the age of
>> young
>> adult maturity. Then he can make the conscience decision to repent and
>> listen
>> to God.
>Don't you realize even the Pope believes in evolution and that the story of
>Adam and Eve is allegorical?
I know that every human child is born with the sin nature. Your not caring to
overcome it is your problem, not mine.
> It wasn't meant to be taken literally. How
>can you be so ignorant of the beliefs of your own corrupt church?
Corrupt what Chruch? My Catholic study bible, in the intro to Genesis, well
states that Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting of God's creation of all
things, but instead Israel's statement of faith regarding same.
>>>Also, this mythical Adam didn't "sin."
>>> He was tricked and beguiled as was
>>>the mythical Eve. You don't commit some RCC sin because you were fooled
>>>and
>>>tricked by a con man or woman.
>> God told them "do not....". They knew what that meant, and they elected
>> to do so anyway. They played God in place of God. That was, and remains, sin.
>It's moot because you fail to realize even the Pope believes in evolution
>and that the story of Adam and Eve is allegorical? It wasn't meant to be
>taken literally. How can you be so ignorant of the beliefs of your own
>corrupt church?
All mankind is born a sinner. Good luck with overcoming yours.
>> What serpent??? It's the sin nature in man that we call satan.
>Oh, now you changed Satan into a "nature" of man................ what next?
>;-)
Smile all you want. You know as well as anyone that a new born, unable to
communicate his needs for years to come, immediately turns to "me first" rather
than "I love you". It's the "natural" nature of man that comes out first.
Parish *~
>>Salvation from what and from who? The serial killing mass murdering
>>mythical God you happen to worship?
>
> Nope, that's just what your god told you about my living God almighty.
Your God of the ancient Hebrews is a serial killing mass murdering
mythical God. Read your bible. He's/she's/it's not much different from the
demons eh? <smirk>
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
Parish *~
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:18:53 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>That's absurd.... there is no sin gene. A "sin nature?" LOL!!!!! :-D
>>Get
>>serious.
>
> You have the same number of fingers and toes, don't you. You inherit
> there sin
> nature also.
There is no gene for a "sin nature" just like there is no gene for "mass
murdering" and no gene for being compassionate.
>>Don't you realize even the Pope believes in evolution and that the story
>>of
>>Adam and Eve is allegorical?
>
> I know that every human child is born with the sin nature. Your not
> caring to
> overcome it is your problem, not mine.
You only "know" because some priest told you that nonsense.
>
> Corrupt what Chruch? My Catholic study bible, in the intro to Genesis,
> well
> states that Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting of God's creation of
> all
> things, but instead Israel's statement of faith regarding same.
Right = no "sin gene!" ;-)
>
>>It's moot because you fail to realize even the Pope believes in evolution
>>and that the story of Adam and Eve is allegorical? It wasn't meant to be
>>taken literally. How can you be so ignorant of the beliefs of your own
>>corrupt church?
>
> All mankind is born a sinner. Good luck with overcoming yours.
Only in the warped and twisted minds of those infected with religions like
yours. It's their excuse for breaking the law, cheating, lying, raping
children etc.
>
>>> What serpent??? It's the sin nature in man that we call satan.
>>Oh, now you changed Satan into a "nature" of man................ what
>>next?
>>;-)
>
> Smile all you want. You know as well as anyone that a new born, unable to
> communicate his needs for years to come, immediately turns to "me first"
> rather
> than "I love you". It's the "natural" nature of man that comes out first.
That's called SURVIVAL! If infants weren't "me first" they would not
survive. You must have been home schooled to be so ignorant of science and
biology.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making plenty of free money."
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:c6f3l5l8g9e3qc104...@4ax.com...
>>>Salvation from what and from who? The serial killing mass murdering
>>>mythical God you happen to worship?
>>
>> Nope, that's just what your god told you about my living God almighty.
>
>Your God of the ancient Hebrews is a serial killing mass murdering
>mythical God. Read your bible. He's/she's/it's not much different from the
>demons eh? <smirk>
God never hurt one finger on one baby.
You just are void of knowledge when it comes to the bible, aren't you.
Heeheeheeehee.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:spf3l5pctm3g644o6...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:18:53 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>That's absurd.... there is no sin gene. A "sin nature?" LOL!!!!! :-D
>>>Get
>>>serious.
>>
>> You have the same number of fingers and toes, don't you. You inherit
>> there sin
>> nature also.
>There is no gene for a "sin nature" just like there is no gene for "mass
>murdering" and no gene for being compassionate.
God created genes. The method of transfer of sin nature is his to provide.
>>>Don't you realize even the Pope believes in evolution and that the story
>>>of Adam and Eve is allegorical?
>> I know that every human child is born with the sin nature. Your not
>> caring to overcome it is your problem, not mine.
>You only "know" because some priest told you that nonsense.
And who told you?
>> Corrupt what Chruch? My Catholic study bible, in the intro to Genesis,
>> well
>> states that Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting of God's creation of
>> all
>> things, but instead Israel's statement of faith regarding same.
>Right = no "sin gene!" ;-)
Keep trying.
>>>> What serpent??? It's the sin nature in man that we call satan.
>>>Oh, now you changed Satan into a "nature" of man................ what
>>>next?
>>>;-)
>> Smile all you want. You know as well as anyone that a new born, unable to
>> communicate his needs for years to come, immediately turns to "me first"
>> rather than "I love you". It's the "natural" nature of man that comes out first.
>That's called SURVIVAL! If infants weren't "me first" they would not
>survive.
They demonstrate a sense of "me first". That can't be helped because they lack
the understanding of their sin nature they got from A&E.
Parish *~
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:52:33 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:c6f3l5l8g9e3qc104...@4ax.com...
>>>>Salvation from what and from who? The serial killing mass murdering
>>>>mythical God you happen to worship?
>>>
>>> Nope, that's just what your god told you about my living God almighty.
>>
>>Your God of the ancient Hebrews is a serial killing mass murdering
>>mythical God. Read your bible. He's/she's/it's not much different from
>>the
>>demons eh? <smirk>
>
> God never hurt one finger on one baby.
No one said he hurt their fingers. He simply drowned them in a mythical
flood and used real disease and parasites to kill them.
>
> You just are void of knowledge when it comes to the bible, aren't you.
> Heeheeheeehee.
You prove to us day after day that you never read the bible. All you know is
what the priets TELL you and want you to know.
Parish *~
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:58:56 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:spf3l5pctm3g644o6...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:18:53 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's absurd.... there is no sin gene. A "sin nature?" LOL!!!!! :-D
>>>>Get
>>>>serious.
>>>
>>> You have the same number of fingers and toes, don't you. You inherit
>>> there sin
>>> nature also.
>
>>There is no gene for a "sin nature" just like there is no gene for "mass
>>murdering" and no gene for being compassionate.
>
> God created genes. The method of transfer of sin nature is his to
> provide.
That makes no sense at all! :-D
>>> I know that every human child is born with the sin nature. Your not
>>> caring to overcome it is your problem, not mine.
>
>>You only "know" because some priest told you that nonsense.
>
> And who told you?
I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me. As for genes.... you're so
ignorant you are unaware that the human genome has been unraveled.
Inheritance is well understood. There are no "sin" genes.
>
>>Right = no "sin gene!" ;-)
>
> Keep trying.
Why when I already succeeded?
>>That's called SURVIVAL! If infants weren't "me first" they would not
>>survive.
>
> They demonstrate a sense of "me first".
They would have died without that "sense." It meant survival for them. An
infant has no past experience to draw upon and this "me first" serves it
well to survive.
That can't be helped because they lack
> the understanding of their sin nature they got from A&E.
Your Pope already admitted the fairy tale about A&E was allegorical. :-)
These two early hominids never existed.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:8mabl5lgcv7im65v0...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:52:33 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:c6f3l5l8g9e3qc104...@4ax.com...
>>>>>Salvation from what and from who? The serial killing mass murdering
>>>>>mythical God you happen to worship?
>>>>
>>>> Nope, that's just what your god told you about my living God almighty.
>>>
>>>Your God of the ancient Hebrews is a serial killing mass murdering
>>>mythical God. Read your bible. He's/she's/it's not much different from
>>>the
>>>demons eh? <smirk>
>>
>> God never hurt one finger on one baby.
>No one said he hurt their fingers. He simply drowned them in a mythical
>flood and used real disease and parasites to kill them.
Ok, back to dealing with the ignorant. How many people did God drown in the
flood? In the mythical flood?
>> You just are void of knowledge when it comes to the bible, aren't you.
>> Heeheeheeehee.
>You prove to us day after day that you never read the bible. All you know is
>what the priets TELL you and want you to know.
The priets [sic] reference the bible in their words.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:1oabl55h1s4kv1kvc...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:58:56 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:spf3l5pctm3g644o6...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:18:53 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's absurd.... there is no sin gene. A "sin nature?" LOL!!!!! :-D
>>>>>Get
>>>>>serious.
>>>>
>>>> You have the same number of fingers and toes, don't you. You inherit
>>>> there sin
>>>> nature also.
>>
>>>There is no gene for a "sin nature" just like there is no gene for "mass
>>>murdering" and no gene for being compassionate.
>>
>> God created genes. The method of transfer of sin nature is his to
>> provide.
>That makes no sense at all! :-D
And less so to an atheist like you.
>>>> I know that every human child is born with the sin nature. Your not
>>>> caring to overcome it is your problem, not mine.
>>>You only "know" because some priest told you that nonsense.
>> And who told you?
>I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me.
So how many people drowned in the flood?
>
As for genes.... you're so
>ignorant you are unaware that the human genome has been unraveled.
>Inheritance is well understood. There are no "sin" genes.
HOW............do you know? And does it mean that man has uncovered all the
"secrets" of God's way to do things?
>>>Right = no "sin gene!" ;-)
>> Keep trying.
>Why when I already succeeded?
Waiting.
>>>That's called SURVIVAL! If infants weren't "me first" they would not
>>>survive.
>> They demonstrate a sense of "me first".
>They would have died without that "sense." It meant survival for them. An
>infant has no past experience to draw upon and this "me first" serves it
>well to survive.
They don't understand survival. They get hungry, and all they know is hunger or
they don't feel good. It has nothing to do with a concept of survival.
>>That can't be helped because they lack
>> the understanding of their sin nature they got from A&E.
>Your Pope already admitted the fairy tale about A&E was allegorical. :-)
>These two early hominids never existed.
So if they didn't exist, then our sin nature is inherent in us?
Parish *~
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:40:11 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:8mabl5lgcv7im65v0...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:52:33 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:c6f3l5l8g9e3qc104...@4ax.com...
>>>
>
>>No one said he hurt their fingers. He simply drowned them in a mythical
>>flood and used real disease and parasites to kill them.
>
> Ok, back to dealing with the ignorant. How many people did God drown in
> the
> flood? In the mythical flood?
You tell me. How many were on the earth when he had the mythical Noah build
the ark? Thousands? A few million?
>
>>> You just are void of knowledge when it comes to the bible, aren't you.
>>> Heeheeheeehee.
>
>>You prove to us day after day that you never read the bible. All you know
>>is
>>what the priets TELL you and want you to know.
>
> The priets [sic] reference the bible in their words.
Uh, no they don't. They reference the literature that comes down from Rome,
from the pope. They don't interpret the bible for themselves.
Parish *~
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:45:15 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>>>>There is no gene for a "sin nature" just like there is no gene for "mass
>>>>murdering" and no gene for being compassionate.
>>>
>>> God created genes. The method of transfer of sin nature is his to
>>> provide.
>
>>That makes no sense at all! :-D
>
> And less so to an atheist like you.
You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>
>>I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me.
>
> So how many people drowned in the flood?
How many animals were in the boat?
>>
> As for genes.... you're so
>>ignorant you are unaware that the human genome has been unraveled.
>>Inheritance is well understood. There are no "sin" genes.
>
> HOW............do you know? And does it mean that man has uncovered all
> the
> "secrets" of God's way to do things?
Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods and YOU are an atheist.
>
>>>>Right = no "sin gene!" ;-)
>>> Keep trying.
>>Why when I already succeeded?
>
> Waiting.
Please produce the sin gene. Tap, tap, tap.....
>>They would have died without that "sense." It meant survival for them. An
>>infant has no past experience to draw upon and this "me first" serves it
>>well to survive.
>
> They don't understand survival. They get hungry, and all they know is
> hunger or
> they don't feel good. It has nothing to do with a concept of survival.
Exactly and that "me first" serves them well and helps them survive just as
I said.
>
>>Your Pope already admitted the fairy tale about A&E was allegorical. :-)
>>These two early hominids never existed.
>
> So if they didn't exist, then our sin nature is inherent in us?
What "sin nature?" What you as a RC consider sin another religion or
society may not. There is no "sin nature." Get and read a few good books on
human psychology. It seems you blindly believe any BS the priests tell you.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4qggl5tqmu2qiri30...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:40:11 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:8mabl5lgcv7im65v0...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:52:33 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:c6f3l5l8g9e3qc104...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> God never hurt one finger on one baby.
>>
>>>No one said he hurt their fingers. He simply drowned them in a mythical
>>>flood and used real disease and parasites to kill them.
>
>>
>> Ok, back to dealing with the ignorant. How many people did God drown in
>> the
>> flood? In the mythical flood?
>
>You tell me. How many were on the earth when he had the mythical Noah build
>the ark? Thousands? A few million?
The closest the bible says is 8. They got on the boat.
>>>> You just are void of knowledge when it comes to the bible, aren't you.
>>>> Heeheeheeehee.
>>>You prove to us day after day that you never read the bible. All you know
>>>is
>>>what the priets TELL you and want you to know.
>> The priets [sic] reference the bible in their words.
>Uh, no they don't. They reference the literature that comes down from Rome,
>from the pope. They don't interpret the bible for themselves.
And what book do we read from at every Mass? And what do we do that is NOT in
the bible?
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:jtggl5td0tgi1n7qt...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:45:15 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>>>>There is no gene for a "sin nature" just like there is no gene for "mass
>>>>>murdering" and no gene for being compassionate.
>>>>
>>>> God created genes. The method of transfer of sin nature is his to
>>>> provide.
>>
>>>That makes no sense at all! :-D
>>
>> And less so to an atheist like you.
>
>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
I'm a Roman Catholic.
>>>I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me.
>> So how many people drowned in the flood?
>How many animals were in the boat?
The bible doesn't say.
>> As for genes.... you're so
>>>ignorant you are unaware that the human genome has been unraveled.
>>>Inheritance is well understood. There are no "sin" genes.
>> HOW............do you know? And does it mean that man has uncovered all
>> the "secrets" of God's way to do things?
>Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods and YOU are an atheist.
Well, with that comment, you're an atheist all right.
>>>>>Right = no "sin gene!" ;-)
>>>> Keep trying.
>>>Why when I already succeeded?
>> Waiting.
>Please produce the sin gene. Tap, tap, tap.....
It's between your ears.
>>>They would have died without that "sense." It meant survival for them. An
>>>infant has no past experience to draw upon and this "me first" serves it
>>>well to survive.
>> They don't understand survival. They get hungry, and all they know is
>> hunger or they don't feel good. It has nothing to do with a concept of survival.
>Exactly and that "me first" serves them well and helps them survive just as
>I said.
Me, me, me is not survival.
>>>Your Pope already admitted the fairy tale about A&E was allegorical. :-)
>>>These two early hominids never existed.
>>
>> So if they didn't exist, then our sin nature is inherent in us?
>What "sin nature?" What you as a RC consider sin another religion or
>society may not. There is no "sin nature."
There is because all mankind possesses it just like all mankind has 10 fingers
and 10 toes.
> Get and read a few good books on
>human psychology. It seems you blindly believe any BS the priests tell you.
You're a fine ignorant one to try to tell we what priests tell me.
Parish *~
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:20:33 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:4qggl5tqmu2qiri30...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:40:11 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:8mabl5lgcv7im65v0...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:52:33 -0600, "Parish *~"
>>>>> <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:c6f3l5l8g9e3qc104...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> God never hurt one finger on one baby.
>>>
>>>>No one said he hurt their fingers. He simply drowned them in a mythical
>>>>flood and used real disease and parasites to kill them.
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, back to dealing with the ignorant. How many people did God drown in
>>> the
>>> flood? In the mythical flood?
>>
>>You tell me. How many were on the earth when he had the mythical Noah
>>build
>>the ark? Thousands? A few million?
>
> The closest the bible says is 8. They got on the boat.
LOL!!!!!!!! So genesis is full of sh*t that all those sinful people were
swept away in the flood? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Put the bottle down "Duke."
>
>>Uh, no they don't. They reference the literature that comes down from
>>Rome,
>>from the pope. They don't interpret the bible for themselves.
>
> And what book do we read from at every Mass? And what do we do that is
> NOT in
> the bible?
The priest cherry-picks the scripture he reads and it's already been
interpreted by the Pope for them. You have graven images and idols all over
your church people pray to and worship and light candles in front of.
Sickening. :�
Parish *~
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:25:39 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>
> I'm a Roman Catholic.
Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
there. Your god is only one of many.
>
>>>>I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me.
>>> So how many people drowned in the flood?
>>How many animals were in the boat?
>
> The bible doesn't say.
Right. There was no *earthwide* flood. There is no evidence for it.
>
>>Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods and YOU are an atheist.
>
> Well, with that comment, you're an atheist all right.
We all are unless we accept, fear and worship all the gods.
>>> Waiting.
>>Please produce the sin gene. Tap, tap, tap.....
>
> It's between your ears.
I see you have no answer. ;-)
>
>>Exactly and that "me first" serves them well and helps them survive just
>>as
>>I said.
>
> Me, me, me is not survival.
It is for a helpless infant.
>>What "sin nature?" What you as a RC consider sin another religion or
>>society may not. There is no "sin nature."
>
> There is because all mankind possesses it just like all mankind has 10
> fingers
> and 10 toes.
There isn't or it would have been found. And speak only for yourself and
your own corrupt religion.
>
>> Get and read a few good books on
>>human psychology. It seems you blindly believe any BS the priests tell
>>you.
>
> You're a fine ignorant one to try to tell we what priests tell me.
No answer again I see............ ;-)
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making fast easy money."
Patrick
> The priest cherry-picks the scripture he reads and it's already been
> interpreted by the Pope for them. You have graven images and idols all
> over your church people pray to and worship and light candles in front of.
> Sickening. :�
And........?
duke
>>>> Ok, back to dealing with the ignorant. How many people did God drown in
>>>> the flood? In the mythical flood?
>>>You tell me. How many were on the earth when he had the mythical Noah
>>>build the ark? Thousands? A few million?
>> The closest the bible says is 8. They got on the boat.
>LOL!!!!!!!! So genesis is full of sh*t that all those sinful people were
>swept away in the flood? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Put the bottle down "Duke."
All WHAT people??? Do you even own a bible?
>>>Uh, no they don't. They reference the literature that comes down from
>>>Rome,
>>>from the pope. They don't interpret the bible for themselves.
>> And what book do we read from at every Mass? And what do we do that is
>> NOT in the bible?
>The priest cherry-picks the scripture he reads and it's already been
>interpreted by the Pope for them.
But words are words. What is the interpretation that then comes about?
> You have graven images and idols all over
>your church people pray to and worship and light candles in front of.
Nope, not a one.
>Sickening. :�
Ignorance personified.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:0b6jl552cdjfrqa7m...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:25:39 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>>
>> I'm a Roman Catholic.
>
>Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
>there. Your god is only one of many.
My God is the only one.
>>>>>I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me.
>>>> So how many people drowned in the flood?
>>>How many animals were in the boat?
>> The bible doesn't say.
>Right. There was no *earthwide* flood. There is no evidence for it.
"Earthwide"??? Where does the bible say that?
>>>Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods and YOU are an atheist.
>> Well, with that comment, you're an atheist all right.
>We all are unless we accept, fear and worship all the gods.
Atheist = rejection. Agnostic = finds the evidence unconvincing.
>>>> Waiting.
>>>Please produce the sin gene. Tap, tap, tap.....
>> It's between your ears.
>I see you have no answer. ;-)
I see you don't understand.
>>>Exactly and that "me first" serves them well and helps them survive just
>>>as I said.
>> Me, me, me is not survival.
>It is for a helpless infant.
A helpless infant has no concept of survival. It's feeling bad.
>>>What "sin nature?" What you as a RC consider sin another religion or
>>>society may not. There is no "sin nature."
>> There is because all mankind possesses it just like all mankind has 10
>> fingers and 10 toes.
>There isn't or it would have been found. And speak only for yourself and
>your own corrupt religion.
I just showed you with the infant. "Me now" is the first action seen in any
human being. Before human understanding and love can set in, it's strictly "me
now".
>>> Get and read a few good books on
>>>human psychology. It seems you blindly believe any BS the priests tell
>>>you.
>> You're a fine ignorant one to try to tell we what priests tell me.
>No answer again I see............ ;-)
You have all you can handle now.
Jeff
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:30:58 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:0b6jl552cdjfrqa7m...@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:25:39 -0600, "Parish *~"
<Par...@invalid.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
> >>
> >> I'm a Roman Catholic.
**** That means you're an idiot.
> >Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
> >there. Your god is only one of many.
>
> My God is the only one.
**** Every religion believes it's the only truth and has the only god.
Belief is not proof. Ask any JW or ex-catholic.
No, Puke, YOU have all you can handle. The flood never happened. The amount
of food needed, the need for straw, the amount of waste to dump out of this
"ark", not one animal eating its natural prey and ruining the "perfect
pairs", the force of the water on ANY roof, especially back then, the space
for the food, the time to feed all the animals, etc., etc. Any one who
believes the bible flood is a moron. Your IQ must match your age, and I'm
being generous. It's probably closer to your shoe size.
There is no original sin. Your fiction bible says the son will not suffer
for the sins of the father. Over 6 billion people should die for Adam's
sin?? That's not just. A child could see that. How about the verse not to
call anyone your "father"? What title do priests use??? I have a degree in
psychology. You are a catholic for many reasons, that's true. But one reason
you are a catholic is NOT because you can prove your beliefs. You NEED this
in your life. When people need, they then find it okay to believe, proof or
not.
I was raised catholic so being snotty about others not knowing your
religious beliefs is a waste of time. Read Mark Twain's "Letters from the
Earth". He says it all. Oh, you can read things that are NOT pro-catholic,
can't you?? Why don't you try. If you have trouble with the big words, ask
your Mommy.
**** "The Mess is the most perfect form of sanctimonious bullshit under one
roof."
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:j2nol5tpc50ouq3t5...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:30:58 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:0b6jl552cdjfrqa7m...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:25:39 -0600, "Parish *~"
><Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>> >>
>> >> I'm a Roman Catholic.
>**** That means you're an idiot.
Why?
>> >Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
>> >there. Your god is only one of many.
>> My God is the only one.
>**** Every religion believes it's the only truth and has the only god.
>Belief is not proof. Ask any JW or ex-catholic.
The JW's believe in the same God almighty that I do. Ex-catholics reject the
truth.
Parish *~
"Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com> wrote in message
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>
> And........?
Have at it. If your god really exists you're in for a rude awakening some
day. ;-)
Parish *~
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:24:50 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Ok, back to dealing with the ignorant. How many people did God drown
>>>>> in
>>>>> the flood? In the mythical flood?
>
>>>>You tell me. How many were on the earth when he had the mythical Noah
>>>>build the ark? Thousands? A few million?
>
>>> The closest the bible says is 8. They got on the boat.
>
>>LOL!!!!!!!! So genesis is full of sh*t that all those sinful people were
>>swept away in the flood? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Put the bottle down
>>"Duke."
>
> All WHAT people??? Do you even own a bible?
Oh I see. God killed them all first before the flood.
>
>>>>Uh, no they don't. They reference the literature that comes down from
>>>>Rome,
>>>>from the pope. They don't interpret the bible for themselves.
>
>>> And what book do we read from at every Mass? And what do we do that is
>>> NOT in the bible?
>
>>The priest cherry-picks the scripture he reads and it's already been
>>interpreted by the Pope for them.
>
> But words are words. What is the interpretation that then comes about?
>
>> You have graven images and idols all over
>>your church people pray to and worship and light candles in front of.
>
> Nope, not a one.
Then you haven't been to your own church in awhile.
>
>>Sickening. :�
>
> Ignorance personified.
>
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
Parish *~
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:30:58 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:0b6jl552cdjfrqa7m...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:25:39 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>>>
>>> I'm a Roman Catholic.
>>
>>Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
>>there. Your god is only one of many.
>
> My God is the only one.
Uh, wrong. Everyone's god is the only one - to them. ;-)
>
>>>>>>I read the bible. The Bronze Age scribes so me.
>>>>> So how many people drowned in the flood?
>>>>How many animals were in the boat?
>
>>> The bible doesn't say.
>>Right. There was no *earthwide* flood. There is no evidence for it.
>
> "Earthwide"??? Where does the bible say that?
In Genesis.
>
>>>>Which God? There are 10,000 known Gods and YOU are an atheist.
>>> Well, with that comment, you're an atheist all right.
>>We all are unless we accept, fear and worship all the gods.
>
> Atheist = rejection. Agnostic = finds the evidence unconvincing.
>
>>>>> Waiting.
>>>>Please produce the sin gene. Tap, tap, tap.....
>>> It's between your ears.
>>I see you have no answer. ;-)
>
> I see you don't understand.
I see you have no answer again. :-)
>
>>>>Exactly and that "me first" serves them well and helps them survive just
>>>>as I said.
>
>>> Me, me, me is not survival.
>
>>It is for a helpless infant.
>
> A helpless infant has no concept of survival. It's feeling bad.
That's what makes it survive. Even puppies and kittens and baby birds have
the "me me" instinct to survive.
>
>>>>What "sin nature?" What you as a RC consider sin another religion or
>>>>society may not. There is no "sin nature."
>
>>> There is because all mankind possesses it just like all mankind has 10
>>> fingers and 10 toes.
>
>>There isn't or it would have been found. And speak only for yourself and
>>your own corrupt religion.
>
> I just showed you with the infant. "Me now" is the first action seen in
> any
> human being. Before human understanding and love can set in, it's
> strictly "me
> now".
It has to be or the infant or baby chimp or puppy or calf wouldn't survive.
That's not a sin gene.
>
>>>> Get and read a few good books on
>>>>human psychology. It seems you blindly believe any BS the priests tell
>>>>you.
>>> You're a fine ignorant one to try to tell we what priests tell me.
>>No answer again I see............ ;-)
>
> You have all you can handle now.
No answer again I see............ ;-)
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
Parish *~
>
> The JW's believe in the same God almighty that I do. Ex-catholics reject
> the
> truth.
You really mean to say ex-Catholics reject the corruption that is your
religion.
--
The Parrish *~, American-American-American.
* * * * * *
"The Mass is the most perfect form of making money."
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> The JW's believe in the same God almighty that I do. Ex-catholics reject
>> the
>> truth.
>
>You really mean to say ex-Catholics reject the corruption that is your
>religion.
NO, x-catholics reject the truth.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:30:58 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:0b6jl552cdjfrqa7m...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:25:39 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a Roman Catholic.
>>>
>>>Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
>>>there. Your god is only one of many.
>>
>> My God is the only one.
>
>Uh, wrong. Everyone's god is the only one - to them. ;-)
And there is only one.
>>>> The bible doesn't say.
>>>Right. There was no *earthwide* flood. There is no evidence for it.
>> "Earthwide"??? Where does the bible say that?
>In Genesis.
Yet that's an unscientific statement.
>>>>>Exactly and that "me first" serves them well and helps them survive just
>>>>>as I said.
>>>> Me, me, me is not survival.
>>>It is for a helpless infant.
>> A helpless infant has no concept of survival. It's feeling bad.
>That's what makes it survive. Even puppies and kittens and baby birds have
>the "me me" instinct to survive.
They have no idea that survival is the issue. They feel bad, they demand.
>>>>>What "sin nature?" What you as a RC consider sin another religion or
>>>>>society may not. There is no "sin nature."
>>
>>>> There is because all mankind possesses it just like all mankind has 10
>>>> fingers and 10 toes.
>>
>>>There isn't or it would have been found. And speak only for yourself and
>>>your own corrupt religion.
>> I just showed you with the infant. "Me now" is the first action seen in
>> any human being. Before human understanding and love can set in, it's
>> strictly "me now".
>It has to be or the infant or baby chimp or puppy or calf wouldn't survive.
>That's not a sin gene.
And they have no idea that their "survival" is at state.
Rob
Wrong again. Ex-catholics reject Catholicism. Catholicism is NOT the truth.
Therefore ex-catholics are NOT rejecting the truth. In fact, they stand a
very good chance of actually finding the truth if they quit the Catholic
church.
Parish *~
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:42:59 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:015rl5llucjbdobjl...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> The JW's believe in the same God almighty that I do. Ex-catholics
>>> reject
>>> the
>>> truth.
>>
>>You really mean to say ex-Catholics reject the corruption that is your
>>religion.
>
> NO, x-catholics reject the truth.
Which truth? That the RCC are full of pedophiles? Of course they accept
that. That's the reason so many fled the RCC.
Parish *~
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:39:09 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a Roman Catholic.
>>>>
>>>>Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
>>>>there. Your god is only one of many.
>>>
>>> My God is the only one.
That's what everyone says. Your god is one of 10,000 real live all powerful
gods - to someone somewhere. You must learn to accept that truth.
>>
>>Uh, wrong. Everyone's god is the only one - to them. ;-)
>
> And there is only one.
10,000 are known. Your god is one of 10,000 real live all powerful gods -
to someone somewhere. You must learn to accept that truth.
>>>>> The bible doesn't say.
>>>>Right. There was no *earthwide* flood. There is no evidence for it.
>>> "Earthwide"??? Where does the bible say that?
>>In Genesis.
>
> Yet that's an unscientific statement.
What do you expect when the whole bible is unscientific. When it's all
fantasy, fables and myths.
>>>> A helpless infant has no concept of survival. It's feeling bad.
>>That's what makes it survive. Even puppies and kittens and baby birds
>>have
>>the "me me" instinct to survive.
> They have no idea that survival is the issue. They feel bad, they demand.
They demand as part of the survival instinct. Without demanding care they
would die. It has nothing to do with RC sin beliefs.
>
>>> I just showed you with the infant. "Me now" is the first action seen in
>>> any human being. Before human understanding and love can set in, it's
>>> strictly "me now".
>
>>It has to be or the infant or baby chimp or puppy or calf wouldn't
>>survive.
>>That's not a sin gene.
>
> And they have no idea that their "survival" is at state.
They demand as part of the survival instinct. All mammals have this
instinct. All birds and reptiles have this instinct. Without demanding care
they would die. It has nothing to do with absurd RC sin beliefs.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:42:59 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:015rl5llucjbdobjl...@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >> The JW's believe in the same God almighty that I do. Ex-catholics
>reject
>> >> the
>> >> truth.
>> >
>> >You really mean to say ex-Catholics reject the corruption that is your
>> >religion.
>>
>> NO, x-catholics reject the truth.
>Wrong again. Ex-catholics reject Catholicism. Catholicism is NOT the truth.
And can you reveal what it is by Catholicism that is not the truth?
>Therefore ex-catholics are NOT rejecting the truth. In fact, they stand a
>very good chance of actually finding the truth if they quit the Catholic
>church.
What truths are those? I would be interested in a better understanding here.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:42:59 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:015rl5llucjbdobjl...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> The JW's believe in the same God almighty that I do. Ex-catholics
>>>> reject
>>>> the
>>>> truth.
>>>
>>>You really mean to say ex-Catholics reject the corruption that is your
>>>religion.
>>
>> NO, x-catholics reject the truth.
>
>Which truth? That the RCC are full of pedophiles? Of course they accept
>that. That's the reason so many fled the RCC.
The house has been cleaned.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:39:09 -0600, "Parish *~" <Par...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You're the atheist here. A true atheist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a Roman Catholic.
>>>>>
>>>>>Which means you're an atheist to all those other 10,000 known Gods out
>>>>>there. Your god is only one of many.
>>>>
>>>> My God is the only one.
>That's what everyone says.
Name one person that says that his God, not God almighty, is the one.
>
>> And there is only one.
>10,000 are known. Your god is one of 10,000 real live all powerful gods -
>to someone somewhere. You must learn to accept that truth.
Sorry, but sex, alcohol, gambling, food, etc are not God almighty.
>>>>>> The bible doesn't say.
>>>>>Right. There was no *earthwide* flood. There is no evidence for it.
>>>> "Earthwide"??? Where does the bible say that?
>>>In Genesis.
>> Yet that's an unscientific statement.
>
>What do you expect when the whole bible is unscientific. When it's all
>fantasy, fables and myths.
Oh, noooo. The bible is heavy historical.
>>>>> A helpless infant has no concept of survival. It's feeling bad.
>
>>>That's what makes it survive. Even puppies and kittens and baby birds
>>>have
>>>the "me me" instinct to survive.
>
>> They have no idea that survival is the issue. They feel bad, they demand.
>
>They demand as part of the survival instinct. Without demanding care they
>would die. It has nothing to do with RC sin beliefs.
Yet survival instinct is not knowledge. Hunger is demand, and now. NO concept
of survival jeopardy is evident.