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Rabbis Tell Israeli Army: Don't Spare Civilians

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GabrilJb

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Oct 5, 2004, 3:57:11 PM10/5/04
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So who are the terrorists? Today the proud soldiers of the Father land killed a
girl aged 12 and a little boy aged 4. The girl was walking home from school
alone when the valiant soldiers spotted her and opened fire. Later on in the
local hospital a total of 27 bullet holes were found on this innocent little
soul of just 12 years.
In another street a young girl of 16 was shot dead through her kitchen window
while she was preparing some food for her father. This is a sheer callous blood
lust.

Heil Druckman!

by Michael A. Hoffman II

Based on Talmudic halacha (law), several prominent Israeli rabbis, including
Bnei Akiva's Rabbi Haim Druckman, declared on Sept. 7, 2004 that "killing enemy
civilians during war is normal." So what problem do the rabbis have with
Hitler? Simply stated, his sin was based on the fact that, mistakenly thinking
he was head of the Master Race, Hitler killed human beings; whereas Israelis,
who know for certain they are the Master Race, merely snuff-out sub-humans.

Rabbi Haim Druckman
A GROUP OF 14 PROMINENT RABBIS, led by Haim Druckman, who are considered
authorities by the religious-Zionist public, have asked the Israeli army not to
flinch from killing Palestinian civilians in the context of the ongoing
military campaign against armed groups resisting the occupation. Druckman, 71,
is one of the most prominent and veteran leaders of the religious Zionist
movement, has been a public figure for over 50 years, since serving as a
revered leader in the Bnei Avika youth movement in the early 1950s.

In a letter to the Israeli defense minister, Shaul Mofaz, published on Sept. 7,
2004, the rabbis said killing enemy civilians is "normal" during time of war
and that the Israeli occupation army should never hesitate to kill non-Jewish
civilians in order to save Jewish lives.

"There is no war in the world in which it is possible to delineate entirely
between the population and the enemy army, neither in the US war in Iraq, the
Russian war in Chechnya, nor in Israel's war with its enemies," the rabbis
declared.

The rabbis quoted a Talmudic edict, from the ancient "sage," Rabbi Akiva, as
stating: 'Our lives come first."' The Israeli newspaper Haaretz (Sept. 9) warns
that Israeli "...soldiers, and even officers, will see this call as a kind of
halakhic-ethical commandment that ought to be obeyed..."

One part of the letter scolded Western critics of Israeli policies against the
Palestinians: "The Christian preaching of 'turning the other cheek' doesn't
concern us, and we will not be impressed by those who prefer the lives of our
enemies to our lives," Rabbi Druckman said.

This is a concise and well-explained manifesto, initiated by "ordinary" rabbis.
The rabbis represent a dominant segment of Israeli Orthodox Judaics identified
with settlers in the West Bank and Gaza, including Druckman, a former Israeli
Knesset (parliament) member who heads the large Talmudic youth movement "Bnei
Akiva" as well as the government's conversion administration; Rabbi Yuval
Cherlow of the hesder yeshiva, one of the leaders of the liberal stream, which,
according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, "is open to universal culture and
discourse." Other signers include Eliezer Melamed, rosh yeshiva of an occupied
West Bank Talmud college; Yehoshua Shapira of the "spiritual-Hasidic" faction;
Rabbi Youval Sharlo, the director of another Talmud school in Petah Tikva,
which combines Talmudic studies with service in the Israeli army, and Zefania
Drori of Kiryat Shmona, one of the rabbis with the most profound influence on
Israeli young people.

"The common denominator among most of the signers of the manifesto," notes
Haaretz, "actually lies in their charisma and influence on broad sectors of
national religious youth. Among the admirers of Cherlow and Shapira...are
hardalim (ultra-Orthodox nationalists), habkukim (disciples of Rabbi Kook and
fans of ...Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach, including Shapira himself), newly repentant
Bratslavers, datlashim (formerly religious), settlers and the urban
bourgeoisie."

On May 19, 2004, Dov Lior, an influential rabbi in the Israeli settlement of
Kiryat Arbaa near Hebron, issued an edict enthusiastically supporting the
killing of Palestinian civilians in Rafah in southern Gaza, saying that "it is
very clear in light of the Torah that Jewish lives are more important than
non-Jewish lives."

Rabbi Lior argued that non-Jewish lives have no sanctity, especially during
wartime. Lior has publicly eulogised Baruch Goldstein, an American settler from
Brooklyn who in 1994 massacred 40 Palestinian civilians who were praying at
Hebron's Ibrahimi Mosque. Rabbi Lior called Goldstein a "great saint."

In formulating their theological positions, Lior, Druckman and other
like-minded rabbis rely on the Talmudic maxim which states that in a war, it is
a mitzvah (holy act) to kill gentile women and children.

When are Judaics going to contemplate the travesty of these religious rabbis
allowing, even calling for, the murder of civilians? "How can we believe that
Judaism is the religion of wisdom and justice while these rabbis clearly
proclaim it to be a religion of blood and slaughter?

The New York Times took no notice of the rabbi's joint statement of Sept. 7 and
by Sept. 10, Haaretz had quickly rehabilitated Druckman, respectfully reporting
in a lengthy article on his views as head of the Israeli government's
conversion administration, without once mentioning Druckman's call for the
murder of Palestinian civilians (cf. article by Yair Sheleg, Sept. 10, 2004).

In the past four years, since the outbreak of the al-Aqsa Intifada, Israeli
soldiers and settlers have killed over 3000 Palestinians, the bulk of them
civilians, including more than 600 children and minors.


Sunny

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Oct 5, 2004, 6:20:51 PM10/5/04
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Is this the same incident ?

"GabrilJb" <gabr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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So who are the terrorists? Today the proud soldiers of the Father land
killed a
girl aged 12 and a little boy aged 4. The girl was walking home from school
alone when the valiant soldiers spotted her and opened fire. Later on in
the
local hospital a total of 27 bullet holes were found on this innocent
little
soul of just 12 years.

"Ya'kub T" <Yak...@rolangaros.com> wrote in message
news:otE8d.15987$jj2.7...@news20.bellglobal.com...
Rafah, Gaza Strip - Israeli soldiers shot dead a 13-year-old Palestinian
schoolgirl in the southern Gaza Strip on Tuesday after she approached an
army watchtower in a tense border zone, witnesses said.
An Israeli military source said the girl was shot inside a restricted area
when soldiers suspected she had a bomb. Palestinian medics said she had been
hit by 20 bullets.


MagdiM

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Oct 5, 2004, 8:02:22 PM10/5/04
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Why ?
"Sunny" <womba...@yahoo.com.au> ha scritto nel messaggio
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XpatriotgamesX

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Oct 6, 2004, 12:57:27 AM10/6/04
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>Subject: Rabbis Tell Israeli Army: Don't Spare Civilians
>From: gabr...@aol.com (GabrilJb)
>Date: 10/5/2004 12:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20041005155711...@mb-m07.aol.com>

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>So who are the terrorists? Today the proud soldiers of the Father land killed
>a
>girl aged 12 and a little boy aged 4. The girl was walking home from school
>alone when the valiant soldiers spotted her and opened fire. Later on in the
>local hospital a total of 27 bullet holes were found on this innocent little
>soul of just 12 years.

Scroll to the bottom of this web page to see why Arab children get shot. Maybe
if terrorists would stop using their children as shields, there would be fewer
casualties. But then there would be less propaganda for the six o'clock news.

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Sunny

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Oct 6, 2004, 3:01:37 AM10/6/04
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Because "GabrilJb" in usual propaganda fashion made no mention of :

"when soldiers suspected she had a bomb"
Thanks to Muslim fanatics, the number of countries that shoot first when
somebody drops a bag and runs, is increasing

"MagdiM" <magd...@libero.it> wrote in message
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Rodrigo Diaz

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Oct 6, 2004, 3:57:57 PM10/6/04
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As to the Islamofascist vermin..."Praise the Lord and Blast them To
Perdition". A catchy tune!
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trueman

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Dec 18, 2016, 7:10:43 AM12/18/16
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It is business as usual, murder of Pskedtinians still
Going on schedule as pa planned 'gradual genocide'
So that the world doesn't find out.
Ah yeah? Some of us already know.

LORD's witness

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Dec 20, 2016, 12:36:07 PM12/20/16
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Good to see y, trueman. Well, I'm sorry to know no solution for Middle East.
But LORD God knows everything.

I know Jesus said "Love thy enemies! Pray for those who persecute you and spitefully use you!" (Mathew 5:44).

I know what kosher boot looks like, believe me, but we must love enemies of Cross of Calvary.

in LORD Merciful, Longsuffering
Amen.
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