Who is god to you?
carol b
Adhabuhu
2:255 Allah! La Ilaha Illa Huwa (None has the right to be worshipped but
He), the ever living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists.
Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the
Heavens and whatever is on Earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him
except with His permission? He knows what happened to them (His creatures)
in this world, and what will hapen to them in the Hereafter. And they will
never compass anything of His knowledge except that which he wills. His
Kursi extends over the Heavens and the Earth, and He feels no fatigue in
guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the most Great. [This
verse is called Ayat-ul-Kursi].
His name is Allah.
Adhabuhu
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> Who is god to you?
>
>
>
carol b
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Adhabuhu
see Him. The best way to see Him is to exerce your senses.
Adhabuhu
If you are sincere in knowing im, you'll meet Him as He said:
"f you make one step toward me, I'll make 10 steps towards you and if you
come to me walking, I'll come to you jogging."
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carol b
and colors.For you, is there a difference betwenn being everywhere and
being everything?news:CO_79.13457$C8.8...@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
Adhabuhu
are all His creatures.
Adhabuhu
When you reach the level to see that everything is beautiful, you are very
close of knowing Him.
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The Holy Kafir
everything. You said, "Yes. everywhere ... "
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Adhabuhu
is everything you see, which is wrong. God is not everything, He created
everything. He is everywhere with His knowledge, in that He can hear, see
...
Adhabuhu
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carol b
everything (the creator). He is in everything since the energy is everywhere
or create everything. If this energy become everything then god is
everything.(the creature)... make sense ?
Carol
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Adhabuhu
> thank you so much for your reply...
You're welcome.
>what if god is the energy that creates
> everything (the creator).
He is behind everything and I agree with you. He is the Architect, Designer,
Strategist, Photographer of everything surrounding us.
>He is in everything since the energy is everywhere
When I look a Picasso painting, Picasso himself is not in it but yes Picasso
is behind the beauty of the painting, the touch of "Le Pinceau". Looking at
the Sun, Moon, Mountains or an ant, I see the intelligence, power, beauty,
regulation, balance, control, strategic design and much more of a very very
Merciful God.
> or create everything. If this energy become everything then god is
> everything.(the creature)... make sense ?
My above explanation kind of disagree with you as I always make distinctions
between the creator and His Creatures.
carol b
creation) and the paint brush (the energy that allow the process) all three
unified. Picasso painting a great tableau or the thought creating a
beautifull universe.
best regard
Carol
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Adhabuhu
Chapter Tawhid or El-Ikhlass
112:1 Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)): "He is Allâh, (the) One
112:2 "Allâh-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need,
He neither eats nor drinks).
112:3 "He begets not, nor was He begotten;[]
112:4 "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
Adhabuhu
Ya Allaaaaaaaaah, this woman came to seek you. Show her your Sirat
El-Mustaqqim (The Straight Path) Ameeeeeen!!!
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Gary Schooley
Adhabuhu wrote:
> Well , God is One.
Muslim References to the Holy Ghost - A Gaping Hole in their Monotheism
"Holy Ghost": Scripture = 183, Quran = 0
"Holy Spirit": Scripture = 44, Quran = 4
"Godhead": Scripture = 3, Quran = 0
"Trinity": Scripture = 0, Quran = 2
"Father, Son, and Holy Ghost": Scripture = 1 Quran = 0
Although the Quran, thus Muslims, claim to be staunch monotheists, claiming that
"God is one", and that there is no triune Godhead ("Trinity"), both the Quran
and Muslims admit that there IS a Holy Spirit. The term "Holy Spirit" only
appears a shameful 4 times in the Quran (and the "Holy Ghost" is nowhere to be
found), it IS enough to show a basic belief in it; Muslims themselves often
refer to their "holy spirit".
The question is obvious: How can Muslims believe in God, the Father, and God,
the Holy Spirit, fully two-thirds of the Godhead, and still call themselves
"monotheists"? If the Quran had not included references to the "Holy Spirit", it
would not be contradicting it's own monotheistic view. Muslims manage to pretty
much accept 2/3 of God, but when it comes to JESUS, just as with all other false
religions, they manage to reject him (just as Satan intends!). Once again, the
pivotal point that will make all the difference between Heaven and Hell, Jesus,
is discarded (no wonder he is called "the stone the builder rejected", which
became the cornerstone of the church).
What's up with that? Why the talk, by those who clearly don't know Him, about
the Holy Spirit? If "God is one", how can you speak of the SECOND part, the Holy
Ghost?
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the
Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall
testify of me:
Well, no wonder they reject Jesus! They don't really have the Holy Spirit! NO
Spirit to testify of Jesus. Now it makes sense.
Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his
Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
No wonder the Quran has no concept of a "Heavenly FATHER" - they have rejected
his SON. And, since the Holy Spirit IS the spirit of his SON, Jesus, they can't
really have any Holy Spirit (because the Quran flatly rejects that God had a
Son).
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
Clearly, if Jesus had not left (died) and gone to the Father, the comforter
(Holy Spirit) would not have come:
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go
away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I
depart, I will send him unto you.
Ironically, mankind accepts and half way understands that a man has flesh,
spirit and soul, thus making him a "trinity" of sorts, but they can't seem to
grasp that we were made IN THE IMAGE of another trinity. We are first a spirit
being, we have a soul and we live in a body; likewise, God is a spirit being, he
has a soul and lives in a body, too (all very Scriptural). That is why salvation
is a three fold process; the spirit *was* saved when (IF) we accepted Jesus
(reborn) (Muslims excluded of course), the soul *is* being saved every day (IF
you were reborn), and the flesh *will be* saved at the rapture or resurrection
(IF you know Jesus). It's really rather simple, to those who care to know it.
But, as usual in all false religions, just as Satan intends, Jesus is always
discarded. That's how he insures that FEW will ever reach Heaven and that MOST
will go to Hell. That's his game plan and you can find it in the majority of
religions today. You can do anything you want, just so long as you DON'T accept
Jesus and have your sins forgiven. That's how so many religious hypocrites will
go to hell "with a bible under each arm".
Any Muslims care to comment on this hypocrisy of the Quran and Islam? Can you
answer this Gaping Hole in your Monotheism?
Gary Schooley
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If you believe in trinity, you are no more than a polytheist. Listen what
Allah swt said in Chapter Marie
Surat maryam
19:88 And they say: "The Most Beneficent (Allâh) has begotten a son (or
offspring or children) [as the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh,
and the Christians say that He has begotten a son ['Iesa (Christ) >>], and
the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)]."
19:89 Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
19:90 Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder,
and the mountains fall in ruins,
19:91 That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most
Beneficent (Allâh).
19:92 But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent
(Allâh) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
Adhabuhu
Be very careful when you say things like this.
Gary Schooley
Adhabuhu wrote:
> If you believe in trinity, you are no more than a polytheist. Listen what
> Allah swt said in Chapter Marie
> Surat maryam
> 19:88 And they say: "The Most Beneficent (Allâh) has begotten a son (or
> offspring or children) [as the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh,
> and the Christians say that He has begotten a son ['Iesa (Christ) >>], and
> the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)]."
> 19:89 Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
> 19:90 Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder,
> and the mountains fall in ruins,
> 19:91 That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most
> Beneficent (Allâh).
> 19:92 But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent
> (Allâh) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
>
> Adhabuhu
>
> Be very careful when you say things like this.
I have the Quran on my computer - I've seen (and written a lot about) all it's
blasphemies. I'll speak as I wish, and there's NOTHING at all that you can DO
about that. Clear enough?
GS
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Adhabuhu wrote:
> Be very careful when you say things like this.
P.S. Besides, you, as expected, failed to even begin to answer my question.
GS
The Holy Kafir
> If you believe in trinity, you are no more than a polytheist. Listen what
> Allah swt said in Chapter Marie
> Surat maryam
> 19:88 And they say: "The Most Beneficent (Allâh) has begotten a son (or
> offspring or children) [as the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of
Allâh,
> and the Christians say that He has begotten a son ['Iesa (Christ) >>], and
> the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)]."
> 19:89 Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
> 19:90 Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder,
> and the mountains fall in ruins,
> 19:91 That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most
> Beneficent (Allâh).
> 19:92 But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent
> (Allâh) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
What about the references to "Holy Spirit", 2:87, 2:253, 5:110, 16:102? This
is no different to the holy ghost to Christians.
carol b
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To me the father is the thought, the son is the creation ( matter and
unmatter) and the spirit is the energy that allow the process. All three in
one...
> >
> > John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you
from
> the
> > Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he
> shall
> > testify of me:
> >
> > Well, no wonder they reject Jesus! They don't really have the Holy
Spirit!
> NO
> > Spirit to testify of Jesus. Now it makes sense.
> >
> > Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of
> his
> > Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
> >
> > No wonder the Quran has no concept of a "Heavenly FATHER" - they have
> rejected
> > his SON. And, since the Holy Spirit IS the spirit of his SON, Jesus,
they
> can't
> > really have any Holy Spirit (because the Quran flatly rejects that God
had
> a
> > Son).
The holy spirit to me, is the energy that allow every process...
At a conscious level, it can be seen as the inspiration to make things
evolved the right way...
> >
> > Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in
> the
> > name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
> >
> > Clearly, if Jesus had not left (died) and gone to the Father, the
> comforter
> > (Holy Spirit) would not have come:
I don't think so...
> >
> > John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you
that
> I go
> > away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if
I
> > depart, I will send him unto you.
> >
> > Ironically, mankind accepts and half way understands that a man has
flesh,
> > spirit and soul, thus making him a "trinity" of sorts, but they can't
seem
> to
> > grasp that we were made IN THE IMAGE of another trinity. We are first a
> spirit
> > being, we have a soul and we live in a body; likewise, God is a spirit
> being, he
> > has a soul and lives in a body, too (all very Scriptural).
that's a good point in which we are made in the image of god...
That is why
> salvation
> > is a three fold process; the spirit *was* saved when (IF) we accepted
> Jesus
I don't think we must accept Jesus but his vision of how to live
toghether...
His way of living.... loving without condition.....
> > (reborn) (Muslims excluded of course)
everyone can live the right way...
, the soul *is* being saved every day
> (IF
> > you were reborn), and the flesh *will be* saved at the rapture or
> resurrection
> > (IF you know Jesus). It's really rather simple, to those who care to
know
> it.
> >
> > But, as usual in all false religions, just as Satan intends, Jesus is
> always
> > discarded. That's how he insures that FEW will ever reach Heaven and
that
> MOST
> > will go to Hell.
Do you know many people who loves everything without condition? seing
everything as the perfection? These people are saved, these people are
already in heaven.for the others its hell...
That's his game plan and you can find it in the majority
> of
> > religions today. You can do anything you want, just so long as you DON'T
> accept
> > Jesus and have your sins forgiven. That's how so many religious
hypocrites
> will
> > go to hell "with a bible under each arm".
> >
> > Any Muslims care to comment on this hypocrisy of the Quran and Islam?
Can
> you
> > answer this Gaping Hole in your Monotheism?
> >
> > Gary Schooley
>
> If you believe in trinity, you are no more than a polytheist. Listen what
> Allah swt said in Chapter Marie
> Surat maryam
> 19:88 And they say: "The Most Beneficent (Allâh) has begotten a son (or
> offspring or children) [as the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of
Allâh,
> and the Christians say that He has begotten a son ['Iesa (Christ) >>], and
> the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)]."
The father and the son the intelligence and the creation.... Does the
quran talk about the holy spirit?
> 19:89 Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
> 19:90 Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder,
> and the mountains fall in ruins,
> 19:91 That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most
> Beneficent (Allâh).
> 19:92 But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent
> (Allâh) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
>
>
> Adhabuhu
>
> Be very careful when you say things like this.
Why?
>
>
Gary Schooley
The Holy Kafir wrote:
Yes, the Holy Spirit is one third of the "Trinity" (Godhead). But, Islam claims
God is ONE. Just as they deny Jesus, they also (must) deny the Holy Spirit as
well. BTW, the Holy Spirit always points to and bears witness OF Jesus. A gaping
hole in their monotheism.
GS
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carol b wrote:
What does that have to do with the facts of Scripture? Has your "god" sent you
Scriptures more profound than those God has inspired? Or, did you just make that
up? The true Father is righteous and holy. Transgression of His holiness (sin)
requires real BLOOD; a perfect sacrificial lamb - Jesus. Are the "thoughts" of
Satanists and utterly wicked people like Geoffrey Dahmer your "father"? Satan is
pleased and delighted that vast multitudes of people like yourself NEVER come to
know God as a literal FATHER as Jesus showed us he can be. There IS a literal
Father, there IS a literal Jesus seated beside him, and there IS a literal Holy
Spirit. All three agree in one, but all three also have their own individual
personalities and functions.
Rather than make blind assumptions about something you have clearly no study
about, why not actually LOOK a little at what he said?:
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think
that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's
device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth
all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which
he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained;
whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from
the dead.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the
Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by
him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
truth.
Do YOU have something greater than this? Or, are you just "assuming" like most
"religious" people do; like Satan WANTS you to?
Again, what has that to do with the facts of Scripture and the PERSON of the
Holy Spirit?
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed
unto the day of redemption.
Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your
children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them
that ask him?
Acts 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and
brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. 3 But Peter said,
Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep
back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not
in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast
not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down,
and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
Acts 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to
tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy
husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. 10 Then fell she down
straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in,
and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
> > > Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in
> > the
> > > name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
> > >
> > > Clearly, if Jesus had not left (died) and gone to the Father, the
> > comforter
> > > (Holy Spirit) would not have come:
>
> I don't think so...
That's right - you don't think. You "assume". You need something to THINK about:
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go
away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I
depart, I will send him unto you.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him
should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not
yet glorified.)
Gee, it looks as if you have "assumed" completely wrong. Exactly what Satan
wants - exactly how Satan will take SO many to hell - blind assumptions and
utter ignorance of Scripture. No wonder Jesus warned that FEW would enter his
kingdom; no wonder Jesus warned that he would say to most, "Depart...I never
KNEW you".
And, you couldn't even read it below, so I had to post it again above! You are
bound and determined to go to HELL, aren't you?!? You can bet you can't "assume"
yourself into Heaven. READ, foolish woman, READ!!! It's YOUR judgment and it's
YOUR eternal shame at stake.
> > > John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you
> that
> > I go
> > > away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if
> I
> > > depart, I will send him unto you.
> > >
> > > Ironically, mankind accepts and half way understands that a man has
> flesh,
> > > spirit and soul, thus making him a "trinity" of sorts, but they can't
> seem
> > to
> > > grasp that we were made IN THE IMAGE of another trinity. We are first a
> > spirit
> > > being, we have a soul and we live in a body; likewise, God is a spirit
> > being, he
> > > has a soul and lives in a body, too (all very Scriptural).
>
> that's a good point in which we are made in the image of god...
>
> That is why
> > salvation
> > > is a three fold process; the spirit *was* saved when (IF) we accepted
> > Jesus
>
> I don't think we must accept Jesus but his vision of how to live
> toghether...
> His way of living.... loving without condition.....
All the mushy "religious" "love" (seeing as you HATE God's Word) in the world
won't get your name written the Lamb's (Jesus') Book of Life:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN
COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known
my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I
confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 10:33 But whosoever shall
deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the
books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and
the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,
according to their works.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was
cast into the lake of fire.
A billion good deeds written in YOUR book of works, if you have DENIED Jesus
(which you just did and seem intent on doing), will NOT get your name written in
His book of life. That is how popes and priests, even Mother Tereasa, are and
will burn in hell, meanwhile, truly repentant murderers who have accepted Jesus,
will be found in His book of Life and enter Heaven.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which
God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
It is a FREE gift, bought with a high price, which YOU have rejected. Now, you
must stand on your own "righteousness", without the atoning blood of Jesus. Good
luck! "...without shedding of blood is no remission" (of SIN).
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and
without shedding of blood is no remission. 23 It was therefore necessary that
the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the
heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ is
not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the
true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
> > > (reborn) (Muslims excluded of course)
>
> everyone can live the right way...
Which is a WORK, not faith in Jesus, and NOT sufficient unto atonement for sin.
> , the soul *is* being saved every day
> > (IF
> > > you were reborn), and the flesh *will be* saved at the rapture or
> > resurrection
> > > (IF you know Jesus). It's really rather simple, to those who care to
> know
> > it.
> > >
> > > But, as usual in all false religions, just as Satan intends, Jesus is
> > always
> > > discarded. That's how he insures that FEW will ever reach Heaven and
> that
> > MOST
> > > will go to Hell.
>
> Do you know many people who loves everything without condition? seing
> everything as the perfection? These people are saved, these people are
> already in heaven.for the others its hell...
That's a typical and common myth; again, EXACTLY what Satan wants and HOW he
will insure that so many enter the very REAL hell God created for the Devil and
his angels:
Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine
linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named
Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed
with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and
licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried
by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off,
and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy
on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and
cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son,
remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise
Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And
beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they
which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that
would come from thence.
2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to
hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of
righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy
angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before
him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep
on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from
me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
> That's his game plan and you can find it in the majority
> > of
> > > religions today. You can do anything you want, just so long as you DON'T
> > accept
> > > Jesus and have your sins forgiven. That's how so many religious
> hypocrites
> > will
> > > go to hell "with a bible under each arm".
> > >
> > > Any Muslims care to comment on this hypocrisy of the Quran and Islam?
> Can
> > you
> > > answer this Gaping Hole in your Monotheism?
> > >
> > > Gary Schooley
> >
> > If you believe in trinity, you are no more than a polytheist. Listen what
> > Allah swt said in Chapter Marie
> > Surat maryam
> > 19:88 And they say: "The Most Beneficent (Allâh) has begotten a son (or
> > offspring or children) [as the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of
> Allâh,
> > and the Christians say that He has begotten a son ['Iesa (Christ) >>], and
> > the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)]."
>
> The father and the son the intelligence and the creation.... Does the
> quran talk about the holy spirit?
As I previously posted above (WHY are you afraid to READ it???):
"Holy Ghost": Scripture = 183, Quran = 0
> >
> > "Holy Spirit": Scripture = 44, Quran = 4
> >
> > "Godhead": Scripture = 3, Quran = 0
> >
> > "Trinity": Scripture = 0, Quran = 2
> >
> > "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost": Scripture = 1 Quran = 0
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you
in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the
gift of the Holy Ghost.
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by
water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness,
because the Spirit is truth.
The Quran has so very little to say about the Holy Spirit because it always
witnesses about Jesus. Their imaginary version of the "holy spirit" is nothing
like God's true Spirit, which is why *IT* inspires Islam into so much evil and
violence; *it* is what also inspired the Quran to say things like Jesus was
never killed, was merely a prophet (and a failed one at that), and that he is
not seated at the right hand of God (etc., etc., etc.....).
If you really want to know (Yeah, RIGHT!) what the Quran says about the Holy
Spirit, why don't you actually do some studying and reading about it as *I*
have?:
http://schooley.home.texas.net/Holiness.html Then maybe you might actually KNOW
something about it instead of just "assuming" wrongly.
> > 19:89 Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
> > 19:90 Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder,
> > and the mountains fall in ruins,
> > 19:91 That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most
> > Beneficent (Allâh).
> > 19:92 But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent
> > (Allâh) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
> >
> >
> > Adhabuhu
> >
> > Be very careful when you say things like this.
>
> Why?
That was at *me*, because Muslims would try to KILL me if they could find me!
They target and try to KILL anyone who writes against them (exposes the lies of
Islam), as they *wanted* to with Rushdie; and, as was shown on some of the
Alqada training tapes on TV some months ago - they were plotting the actual
MURDER of a writer on the tapes. They HATE the fact that, here, we are FREE to
express ourselves, no matter how it may offend some, and that they have no
brutal domination over *us* as they do the poor victims in their own Muslim
countries. That's why he didn't elaborate - it was a *warning* to *me*. This is
but one more example of how REALLY dangerous Muslims can be.
But, having SEEN the very real hand of the Holy Spirit protect me, when I was
being stalked by a biker gang (I feel sorry for them! :o), I KNOW that no one
can come near me to try to harm me. They would have to get past my Father first,
which they just won't do. HE just won't allow it. I still marvel and praise Him
for that, and even wrote an article about it:
http://schooley.home.texas.net/Discernment.htm So, for *anyone* to come after
*me*, would be for them to only hurt themselves. Meanwhile, I have a quiet
confidence and joy that my Father WILL take care of me, and they just can't
touch me. <g> Frankly, not that I *want* it, but it would be very interesting to
watch the Lord scatter them and shield me again. It was something to see;
something that I had never seen before.
Psalms 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right
hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. 8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold
and see the reward of the wicked.
It's TRUE!!! :o)
Gary Schooley
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>From: "carol b" vi...@videotron.ca
>Date: 8/18/2002 11:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <91089.15307$oX1.4...@weber.videotron.net>
>
>what if god is a 3 in 1 deal Picasso (the thought) the painting (the
>creation) and the paint brush (the energy that allow the process) all three
>unified. Picasso painting a great tableau or the thought creating a
>beautifull universe.
This must be the "sting". :-)