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Islam approves raping POWs and/or slaves as well as treating females as properties which males can POSSESS

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Islam approves raping POWs and/or slaves as well as treating females as
properties which males can POSSESS (look at the verb "malakat" [all have the
'Fatha' vowel] in the original Arabic Quran)
Quran Translation Yusuf Ali Meal

Surah 23. The Believers
1. The believers must (eventually) win through,-
2. Those who humble themselves in their prayers;
3. Who avoid vain talk;
4. Who are active in deeds of charity;
5. Who abstain from sex,
6. Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives)
whom their right hands POSSESS,- for (in their case) they are free from
blame,

Original 6th verse Arabic Aya: ellā ala azvājehem aow mā MALAKAT aymānohom
(plural of right hand = right hands) fa-ennahom ghayro malumina.


I'm an Iranian Turk, ...all of the Iranian-Dari-Persian (Farsi),
Afghan-Dari-Persian, Tajik Dari-Persian (from Tajikistan) and Turkey-Turkish
and Azeri-Turkish translations tell the same thing
(I know Arabic well coz in Iran learning Arabic in guidance school and high
school and university is obligatory and I've gone to Arabic [there are two
types of Arabic and International high schools in Emirates] high school in
Abudhaby and Dubai in UAE for 2 years.)

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Quran approves raping POWs and/or slaves as well as treating females as
properties...

reference : Quran, Surah 23 Al-Mo'menun verses 1 to 6 (âyât 1 to 6)
------
Another Translation of verse 5 and 6 by Marmaduke Pikthall:
except from their wives or the slaves that their right hand POSSESS, for
then they are not blame worthy,

------------------------------
Holy Quran Qoran Ghoran Ghuran Islam

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Question 2476 from United Kingdom

Can you explain who these slave-girls are and what
qualities do they have?

In this age and times who can be classified as
slave-girl? Since the possibility of acquiring a
slave-girl like the earlier Muslims used to have
them and also having multiple wives is next to
impossible in these times, is there a derivative
of a slave-girl that one could have?

Answer 2476

The slave girls refer to those non-Muslim woman
who are captured in Jihaad by the Muslims. They
are distributed among the warriors according to
the laws of distributing spoils of war.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.


http://www.islam-online.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=12569

Dear scholars,

As-Salamu `alaykum.
I proposed marriage to the daughter of my maternal
aunt, but when the time for marriage drew close my
aunt told me that she had breastfed me twice when I
was little, but I had not drunk my fill on those
occasions. Is it permissible for me to marry her?

Dear brother in Islam,

Answering the question you raised, Sheikh M. S.
Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and
author, states:

"It is permissible for you to marry the daughter of
your maternal aunt in this situation, because breast
feeding only makes the woman (and her daughters) the
mahrams of the child who nursed if it takes place five
times."

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=1757

Question 1757 from Other Country/Island

How do you get rid, or harm a jinn, that is tormenting
a person, making all things bad in that persons life,
creating madness?


Answer 1757

There are people who ere experts in dealing with problems
relating to Jinns. They should be sought and consulted.

And Allah Ta'ala knows best

Mufti E. Desai


http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=1441

Question 1441 from Other Country/Island

Mufti Sahib, I would like to ask you are we allowed to Daydream? And
are we allowed to Daydream about Romantic things?


Answer 1441

It is not permissible to daydream and fantacise about romantic things.

Was salaam

Mufti E Desai
Fatwa Dept.

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=10970

can men wear titanium rings?

can men wear titanium rings?

Answer 10970

2004-02-25


It is not permissible for men to wear titanium rings. (Shaami vol6
pg.359)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=10896

Recently I saw a question on the status of women taken as prisoners
during Jihad.

Could you please clarify the points below? 1. Dont you think sex
without marriage is a disgrace to that particular woman? Please give a
detailed reply to
this point as to why sex is allowed without marriage. 2. What is the
status of the child born through this relationship? And if it comes to
the knowledge of
the male that his slave is pregnant then should he marry her
immediately? Can he leave her if he wants to? 3. To what sort of women
does this rule apply. I
mean can they be ordinary citizens (mothers/sisters/wives of men) of
any city Muslims capture or they must have taken part in the battle
against Muslims
so that this rule may apply to them. 4. What treatment do women
captured get if they are already married and there husbands are taken
prisoners and are
yet alive. Are they also subject to the same treatment above?What if
there husbands have died in the fight. Are they restricted to the
"Iddat" period before
they are available for sex or are they refrained form doing so for that
period? 5.I understand that these women may necessarily not be used as
sex objects
but since this is allowed I cant help thinking of the fact that if a
Muslim haves sex with a women for days or months and then just leaves
her off she is a
prostitute who has filled the desire of an unknown man
willingly or unwillingly. Don't you think so? I'm confused please help

Answer 10896

2004-02-24


ANSWER: Firstly, it should be borne in mind that slavery was not
something that was introduced by Islam; on the contrary,
it was something that had its roots planted long before the advent
of Islam. It would not be an exaggeration to state that slavery is
probably as old as war itself, because it is one of the
consequences of war. Thus, slavery apparently first reared its head with
the
first wars that took place on the face of earth. War is a factor
that makes soft men stern, kind men harsh and delicate men rugged.
A man who cannot bear to see the sight of blood under normal
circumstances becomes capable of shedding the blood of hundreds
under the pressure of war. Those who were not killed in warfare,
used to be taken as prisoners of war. The pages of history will
show that many alternative, expedient methods were used through the
ages to deal with prisoners of war. Some used to be
executed while others would be set free, with or without a ransom.
Then, there were others who were neither executed nor set free.
These were enslaved.

When Islam came and prospered, its power was challenged by the
enemies of Islam and the need to go to war arose. By that
time, slavery had virtually become an international custom. It was
also rife among the Arabs from the days of darkness and
ignorance. Thus, abolishing it instantaneously would have caused
chaos and pandemonium among the Arab people. Hence, a
process of gradual extirpation had to be implemented. Moreover, if
the Muslims would set all their enemy-prisoners free and
tolerate their fellow Muslims being captured and enslaved by the
enemies, it would have lead to a sharp decrease in the Muslim
military force and given a great advantage to the enemy forces
which was something that the Muslims could not afford.
Furthermore, it is a well known fact that warfare tactics used by
one side are often countered by the opposing side in order
to maintain a balance of power. Hence, wartime diplomacy
necessitated the enslaving of prisoners.

In the "Jihads" (Islamic wars) that took place, women were also, at
times, taken as prisoners of war by the Muslim warriors.
These women captives used to be distributed as part of the booty
among the soldiers, after their return to Islamic territory.
Each soldier was then entitled to have relations ONLY with the
slave girl over whom he was given the RIGHT OF
OWNERSHIP and NOT with those slave girls that were not in his
possession. This RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP was given to
him by the "Ameerul-Mu'mineen" (Head of the Islamic state.) Due to
this right of ownership, it became lawful for the owner of
a slave girl to have intercourse with her.

It may, superficially, appear distasteful to copulate with a woman
who is not a man's legal wife, but once Shariah makes
something lawful, we have to accept it as lawful, whether it
appeals to our taste, or not; and whether we know its underlying
wisdom or not. It is necessary for a Muslim to be acquainted with
the laws of Shariah, but it is not necessary for him to
delve into each law in order to find the underlying wisdom of these
laws because knowledge of the wisdom of some of the
laws may be beyond his puny comprehension. Allah Ta'ala has said in
the Holy
Quraan: "Wa maa ooteetum min al-ilm illaa qaleelan" which means,
more or less, that, "You have been given a very small
portion of knowledge". Hence, if a person fails to comprehend the
underlying wisdom of any law of Shariah, he cannot
regard it as a fault of Shariah (Allah forbid), on the contrary, it
is the fault of his own perception and lack of understanding,
because no law of Shariah is contradictory to wisdom.

Nevertheless, the wisdom underlying the permission granted by
Shariah to copulate with a slave woman is as follows: The
LEGAL possession that a Muslim receives over a slave woman from the
"Ameerul-Mu'mineen" (the Islamic Head of State)
gives him legal credence to have coition with the slave woman in
his possession, just as the marriage ceremony gives him
legal credence to have coition with his wife. In other words, this
LEGAL POSSESSION is, in effect, a SUBSTITUTE of the
MARRIAGE CEREMONY. A free woman cannot be 'possessed', bought or
sold like other possessions; therefore Shariah
instituted a 'marriage ceremony' in which affirmation and consent
takes place, which gives a man the right to copulate with
her. On the other hand, a slave girl can be possessed and even
bought and sold, thus, this right of possession, substituting
as a marriage ceremony, entitles the owner to copulate with her. A
similar example can be found in the slaughtering of
animals; that after a formal slaughtering process, in which the
words, "Bismillahi Allahu Akbar" are recited, goats, cows,
etc.; become "Halaal" and lawful for consumption, whereas fish
becomes "Halaal" merely through 'possession' which
substitutes for the slaughtering.

In other words, just as legal possession of a fish that has been
fished out of the water, makes it Halaal for human
consumption without the initiation of a formal slaughtering
process; similarly legal possession of a slave woman made her
Halaal for the purpose of coition with her owner without the
initiation of a formal marriage ceremony.

In short, permission to have intercourse with a slave woman was not
something barbaric or uncivilised; on the contrary, it
was almost as good as a marriage ceremony. In fact, possession of a
slave woman resembles a marriage ceremony in
many ways and both have a lot in common with each other. One
similarity is this that just as a free woman cannot have two
husbands simultaneously; a slave woman cannot be used for
intercourse by two owners. Another similarity is that a free
woman whose marriage is on the rocks, cannot marry another man
until her previous marriage is nullified through divorce,
etc. Due to the discrepancies between husband and wife, the
marriage sometimes reaches a stage where it becomes
virtually impossible for the couple to live as man and wife with
the result that divorce is brought into force to nullify marriage
ties. Similarly, if a slave woman was married previously in enemy
territory to a non-Muslim, and is then captured alone, i.e.
without her husband, it is not permissible for any Muslim to have
relations with her until her previous marriage is nullified,
and that is done by bringing her to an Islamic country and making
her the legal possession of a Muslim. Bringing her into
Islamic territory necessitates the rendering of her previous
marriage as null and void by Islamic law because with her
husband in enemy territory and she in Islamic territory, it becomes
virtually impossible for them to meet and live as man and
wife. That is why it is not permissible to have intercourse with a
woman whose husband is also taken into captivity and put
into slavery with her. Another resemblance between the two is that,
just as a divorcee has to spend a period called "Iddat"
before another man is allowed to marry her; similarly, a slave
woman has to spend a period called "Istibraa" before her
owner can have coition with her.

Another similarity between marriage and possession of a slave woman
is that just as the wife becomes a dependant of the
husband and he has to provide a home, food and clothing for her, a
slave woman also becomes a dependant of her owner
and he has to provide a home, food and clothing for her. Yet
another similarity is this that just as marriage makes the close
relatives of the wife Haraam upon the husband; i.e. he cannot get
married to his wife's mother, grandmother, sister, etc.,
similarly if a man has copulated with a slave woman the slave
woman's close relatives also become Haraam upon the
owner. With all these similarities it does not make sense to regard
copulation with a slave woman distasteful whilst
copulation with one's wife is not regarded as distasteful.

A question that may still arise is that why does the owner of a
slave woman not marry her before having relations with her?
Well, this is impracticable because of a few intricate
technicalities. Firstly, we know that a man has to give "Mahr"
(dower-money) to his bride. The Holy Quran says:-

[ A r a b i c ]
Trans: "And allowed unto you is whatsoever is beyond that, so that
ye may seek them with your substance (i.e. with your
dower-money)(4:24).

Thus, "Mahr" is a conditional prerequisite of Nikaah. If a man has
to marry his slave woman, it would not be possible for him
to abide by this condition of 'Mahr' because by Islamic law, a
slave does not have rights over any property, i.e. she cannot
own anything. In fact, whatever she has with her too, i.e. her
clothing, etc., is all regarded as the property of her owner.
Therefore, If he gets married to his slave girl and gives her the
'Mahr' she cannot become the owner of it because she has no
right of ownership. The 'Mahr' would bounce back to the owner of
the slave girl and it would tantamount to giving the 'Mahr' to
himself. Hence, the owner would become the payer as well as the
PAYEE of the 'Mahr' which would only result in the
mockery of the whole system of 'Mahr'. It would be absolutely
superfluous to have such a marriage ceremony performed that
makes a mockery of the 'Mahr' system. Hence, the owner cannot get
married to her while she remains a slave girl.
However, if he sets her free, then he can get married to her on the
basis of her having become a liberated woman.

Although the owner himself cannot get married to his slave woman,
without giving her freedom, he can get her married to
someone else. If he gets her married to someone else, then only her
husband can now have intercourse with her and the
owner's right of having intercourse with her comes to an end. All
these facts prove that the slave girl does not become an
instrument of sex; on the contrary, her honour is upheld, in that
only one man is allowed to have intercourse with her JUST
AS only one man (the husband) is allowed to have intercourse with
his lawfully wedded wife.

Islam ensured that the slave girl's duties were not restricted
merely to domestic chores but also gave her master permission
to copulate with her. This concession created an atmosphere of love
and harmony between the slave girl and her master.
Islam thereby raised the status of the war captive-maidens close to
that of wives. It was a psychological cure to her
grief-stricken heart, being deprived of her family and thrown into
the hands of a strange society.

Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) enjoined his followers to
treat the slaves kindly, gently, and, above all, to regard
them as members of the family. In this way, they were made to feel
wanted; which was far better than treating them as
outcasts and leaving them to wander the streets of a strange
society in a penniless, destitute condition. Such treatment
would have ultimately forced them to take up evil occupations such
as prostitution in the case of slave woman in order to fill
their hungry stomachs. The First World War in 1914 was a clear
reflection of the evils involved in setting captive women free
to roars about in a strange society with strange surroundings.
During that war, German and English women prisoners on
either side were set free to roam the streets with no-one to feed
them. The result was obvious that they resorted to other
unrefined and uncivilised methods of income on the streets. Thus,
it is evident that the Islamic treatment of women
prisoners of war was conducive towards better social relations and
led to the refinement of their overall social lives.

Over and above all this, History will show that Islam did not
encourage slavery but rather encouraged moves towards the
extirpation of slavery. Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam has
said something to this effect in a Hadith, that: "Whosoever
freed a Muslim slave, the Lord would redeem all his limbs - in
compensation for each limb of the slave, so much so that the
private parts for the private parts - from the Fire of Hell.

"If a slave woman becomes pregnant from her owner, and delivers his
child, she automatically gets her freedom after the
death of her master whose child she gave birth to.

Moreover, there are many wrongs and sins for which the liberation
of a slave serves as a compensation and atonement. This
was a further incentive for the extirpation of slavery. Rasulullah
Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam also taught that whosoever
teaches good manners to his slave girl, adorns her with politeness
and good education, then frees her and gets married to
her, for him there is double recompense and reward. These
encouraging teachings served as incentives towards the
emancipation of slaves and slaves were liberated by the thousands.
Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam himself freed 63
slaves, Hazrat Abu Bakr Radhiallahu Anhu freed 63, Hazrat
Abdur-Rahman bin Auf Radhiallahu Anhu 30,000; Hazrat Hakim
bin Huzam Radhiallahu Anhu 100; Hazrat Abbas Radhiallahu Anhu 70;
Hazrat Ayesha Radhiallahu Anha 69; Hazrat
Abdullah bin Umar Radhiallahu Anhu 100; Hazrat Uthman Radhiallahu
Anhu used to free one slave every Friday and he
would say that he would tree any slave who performed his prayers
with humility. Hazrat Zul-Kilah Radhiallahu Anhu freed
8,000 slaves in a single day.

Hazrat Umar Radhiallahu Anhu passed certain laws during his
Khilaafat which led to the emancipation of thousands of
slaves, and to the prevention of certain specific forms of slavery.
Some of the edicts that he issued:
1. All the apostate tribes that were enslaved during the Khilaafat
of Hazrat Abu Bakr Radhiallahu Anhu were to be freed.
2. A Zimmi (protected non-Muslim subject of an Islamic state)
should not be enslaved.
3. Arabs will not be enslaved.
4. Those who had been enslaved during the days of ignorance (prior
to the advent of Islam) and had lived to witness the Islamic era,
should redeem themselves from slavery by paying their
costs (their value) to their owners whether they were willing or
not.

As a result of all these laws, there came a time when slavery was
totally extirpated. But of course, this extirpation came
about after a gradual process because that was the only safe and
expedient way of tackling the problem.

Because of the prevalence of slavery in the initial stages of Islam
the necessity of educating the people about the treatment
of slaves also arose. Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam taught
his followers how the slaves should be treated with
kindness, etc. In fact, Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam
himself possessed slave girls. In this way, he was able to
demonstrate practically how kindly and politely the slave should be
treated. Because it is relevant to the topic, it would be
appropriate to mention here that Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi
Wasallam also had four slave girls. One was Hazrat Maria
Qibtiyya Radhiallahu Anha who was the mother of Rasulullah
Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam's son, Ibrahim Alayhis Salaam
who passed away in infanthood. The others were, Hazrat Rayhaan
binte Samoon; Hazrat Nafisa and a fourth, whose name
has not been recorded in History.

One question that still remains is whether slavery still legally
prevails anywhere in the Islamic world and whether it can be
successfully implemented in this age. Well, there is no prevalence
of lawful slavery in the Islamic world today and it would
be difficult to implement it because of the stringent conditions
attached to it. Firstly, the prisoners have to be captured in
'Jihaad' in the true sense of the word. Then again, If true
'Jihaad' did break out somewhere, there are still a number of other
laws and conditions to abide by which are far too stringent for any
Islamic country in the world to abide by in this time and
age when people's personal gains and whims and desire are being
given preference to over Islamic Law. According to
Islamic Law, captive female prisoners are also part and parcel of
the booty. One fifth of the booty has to be first distributed
to the needy, orphans, etc. The remaining four-fifths should then
be distributed among the soldiers who participated in the
war. The distribution can only take effect after the booty is
brought into Islamic territory. The Ameerul-Mu'mineen (Head of
the Islamic State) remains the guardian of the female prisoners
until he allocates them to the soldiers. Only after a soldier
has been allotted a slave girl, and made the owner of her, will she
become his lawful possession. After she spends a period
called 'Istibraa', which is the elapse of one menstrual period, It
becomes permissible for her owner to have relations with her.
After possession of the slave too there are a number of other laws
that affect the master and slave. There is hardly any
Islamic country today that can abide to all these conditions, with
the result that it is quite difficult to implement slavery in
this time and age.

The subject of slavery in Islam is quite comprehensive and there
are many laws that pertain to slaves which the
Jurisprudents of Islam have outlined. It is, however, hoped that
the above mentioned facts will be adequate enough to
answer your questions.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

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actually the Persians as well as Iranian Azeri Turks ARE EXTREMELY against
obligatory learning of Arabic in schools and universities. but the Terrorist
Islamic Tyranny (Islamic Republic of Iran / IRI / Jomhuriye Eslāmiye Irān)
encourage learning Arabic and polluting the Persian language with more and
more alien Arabic words. in our schools they even extremely discourage
students from reading Quran translations.

They would change our language to Arabic if they could!!!

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On 19-Jun-2004, xtmprs...@erols.com wrote:

>"Allah has made only wives and SLAVE-girls halal for men to have
>intercourcse with."
> http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2476


> Can you explain who these slave-girls are and what
> qualities do they have?

> IN THIS AGE AND TIMES who can be classified as


> slave-girl? Since the possibility of acquiring a
> slave-girl like the earlier Muslims used to have
> them and also having multiple wives is next to

> impossible in THESE TIMES, is there a derivative


> of a slave-girl that one could have?
>
> Answer 2476
>

> The SLAVE girls refer to those non-Muslim woman
> who are captured in Jihaad by the Muslims. THEY
> ARE DISTRIBUTED among the warriors according to
> the laws of distributing *SPOILS* OF WAR.


>
> and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
>
> Mufti Ebrahim Desai
> FATWA DEPT.


as you can see above, someone has asked a sahib-Fatwa muslim priest (mufti)
"IN THIS AGE AND TIMES who can be classified as SLAVE-girl?"
and Mufti Ebrahim Desai has replied:
> The SLAVE girls refer to those non-Muslim woman
> who are captured in Jihaad by the Muslims. THEY
> ARE DISTRIBUTED among the warriors according to
> the laws of distributing *SPOILS* OF WAR.

thus IN THE MODERN ERA captured non-Muslim women in war (Jihaad or whatever)
can be distributed as SPOILS OF WAR to be POSSESSED by Muslims for SEXUAL
INTERCOURSE.

I wonder what Muftis would say if American coalition troops had distributed
captured Iraqi women among the marines as SPOILS OF WAR and those women had
become the possessed-property of the soldier they were given to!!!

let's see what Tafseer-al-Mizaan has to offer:
Tafseer Al-Mizaan 15th book, page:11
"mā malakat aymānohom" means MAMLUK slave-girls; and it's meaning is that
having sexual intercourse with them is kosher" (Mamluk means something which
is OWNed by someone as a PROPERTY - Mamluk is made from the root "Melk"
which means PROPERTY)


This Mufti is a Professor at Madrasah In'aamiyya, Camperdown
specializes in TAFSEER (interpretation paraphrasing and explaining Quran
verses)
Mufti Ebrahim Desai studied higher Islamic education for nine years | seven
years Fiqh | commencing from the Arabic Language, Usool-e-Fiqh, Fiqh
substantiated, Usool-e-Hadith, and specializing in Hadith, USOOL-e-TAFSEER,
and SPECIALIZING IN TAFSEER. He studied the principles of issuing Fatwas
for two years in Dabhel under Mufti Ahmad Khanpuri Saheb, a renown and
leading Scholar in India, and another year under the grand Mufti of India,
Mufti Mahmoodul Hasan Saheb (RA) (compiler of Fataawa Mahmoodiya | 20
volumes).
He was a Senior Lecturer at Darul Uloom Ta'leemuddin, Isipingo Beach and
HEAD of the Fatwa Department of the Jamiat ul Ulama

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Mufti=an Islamic legal authority who gives a formal legal opinion (fatwā) in
answer to an inquiry by a private individual or judge. A fatwa usually
requires knowledge of the Quran and hadith (narratives concerning the
Prophet's life and sayings), as well as knowledge of exegesis and collected
precedents...
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REFERENCE:
Allah has made only wives and SLAVE-girls halal (kosher) for men to have
intercourcse with.

reference : Quran, Surah 23 Al-Mo'menun verses 1 to 6 (āyāt 1 to 6)
------
Translation of verses 5 and 6 by Marmaduke Pikthall:
except from their wives or the SLAVES that their right hand POSSESS, for


then they are not blame worthy,
------

[23.1] Successful indeed are the believers,
[23.2] Who are humble in their prayers,
[23.3] And who keep aloof from what is vain,
[23.4] And who are givers of poor-rate,
[23.5] And who guard their private parts,
[23.6] Except before their mates or those whom their right hands POSSESS,
for
they surely are not blameable,
[23.7] But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the
limits;
(The Holy Qur'an, translated by M.H. Shakir and published by Tahrike Tarsile
Qur'an, Inc., in 1983)
http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=527949
------
6. Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or the CAPTIVES
whom their right hands POSSESS,- for in their case they are free from
blame,
Translation by Yusuf Ali Meal
------

Benedek Tusz

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nice job Cyrusiese!
and thanks for not mixing your own opinions in the post & providing
the readers with different valid references and interpretations, to
judge on their own.

Benedek the Magyar

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