Morons Exploit Polynesians in Hawaii
Mormon Lie
visitors to Hawaii. Myself and a whole busload of tourists were huddled
into a little room and told to wait. Meanwhile they played a Video of how
Joseph Smith created this religion to save the world. I thought the
Polynesian Cultural Center was a tourist attraction run by the private
sector, not the Mormon Church.
I am very concerned about what happened. First of all, in literature
distributed by the State of Hawaii, no where does it state that the
Polynesian Cultural Center is actually a place where Mormons try to
brainwash the innocent into becoming Mormons. It should be made clear that
this is a Mormon Function. And in your state why is one religion promoted
over another? Do you have a Baptist Cultural Center? A Catholic Cultural
Center? A Buddhist Cultural Center? Why is one group allowed to deceive
tourists and not all the rest?
The State of Hawaii should be ashamed. Does anyone there know what is going
on? Don't you have separation of church and state?
I can promise you one thing, I will never go to the Polynesian Cult Center
and I will inform anyone who cares to know about another scam in Hawaii.
People of Hawaii should be ashamed.
William G€€€drin
earth today. Just because you're too dense to see that doesn't mean you
can go and say bad things about us. I could easily beat you up, and
Christ will laugh at you as you are cast into outer darkness for raping
and murdering all those little girls.
Utah Willy
In article <ujWmfl6$9GA.157@upnetnews03>, "Mormon Lie"
T Mauch
you got your excercise!
To answer your "concerns," the PCC is not, nor has it ever been, a state
government project. It sits on land owned by the LDS church, adjacent to
the Laie Temple, and is staffed mostly by students from Brigham Young
University-Hawaii Campus.
The various cultures portrayed there are factual portrayals by people who
actually come from that part of the world. If you had gotten over your
snooty hatred of Mormons, you would have been able to enjoy yourself as
these youngsters tried to educate you about their way of life, which is
very, very different from yours.
Also, the State of Hawaii promotes all tourist attractions equally,
regardless of the sponsor. And, yes, by the way, there IS a Buddhist temple
there, a very large one, on the same side of the Island of Oahu as the PCC
(it's called the Windward side of the island), but closer to Kaneohe.
As for the Baptists, I suppose they have something somewhere in the South.
If you'd get your nose out of joint for a few seconds at a time, you might,
just possibly, learn something new! If you REALLY want to learn something,
you might think about researching the response of the Maori Elders to the
first Mormon Missionaries to visit them...you'd be surprised, I'm sure!
Tim
Mormon Lie wrote in message ...
q
earth today.>>
this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
Tom McCaskey
>How dare the Mormon Church use the Poynesian Cultural Center
<big crock of shit snipped>
Oh, come off it, jerk. I *lived* in Hawaii for four years, and
there's no *conspiracy* to cover up the Mormon connection to the
Polynesian Cultural Center. Locals are well aware of it, the Mormon
Church is forthcoming about it, and that doesn't stop anyone, malihini
(newcomer/tourist) or local, from going there for a visit.
They do a good job of presenting the culture of various Polynesian
folk in an entertaining and educational manner. I've even heard
tourists commenting on how surprised they were to learn of the
differences between Polynesian cultures. For example, firewalking is
most closely connected to the Fijians, firedancing is more of a
Tahitian thing, facial tattoos are more common to the Maoris than to
other Polynesians, and that Hawaiian hula is *completely* different
from what mainland US types generally think.
It is a good drive from downtown Honolulu and Waikiki (expect an hour
or slightly more), but well worth it, IMO, for anyone who visits the
Hawaiian Isles. Only the USS Arizona Memorial is a more worthy
tourist attraction in Hawaii, I think.
The PCC is a nice tourist attraction, and the fact that it is run by a
church doesn't have a thing to do with it.
And no, I'm not Mormon.
Peace, love and hope to all.
---Tom McCaskey, the "Fiend of Ron,"
critic of the Church of $cientology
Rev David Michael Rice
I suspect he was not being serious. I.e. a troll.
Dooley
right?
Don MacAngus
> How dare the Mormon Church use the Poynesian Cultural Center to brainwash
> visitors to Hawaii.
They don't.
> Myself and a whole busload of tourists were huddled into a little room and
> told to wait. Meanwhile they played a Video of how Joseph Smith created this
> religion to save the world.
You're full of shit. I've been there a dozen times, and that is not what
happens. There is no "little room," and they do not show Mormon movies there.
> I thought the Polynesian Cultural Center was a tourist attraction run by the
> private
> sector, not the Mormon Church.
It's owned and operated by their church, specificly so polysnesian students of
BYU Hawaii can have a place to work while they attend school.
> I can promise you one thing, I will never go to the Polynesian Cult Center...
And I can promise you something else. You never went there. Because that is
not what happens. Besides, if you don't want to go, then don't pay to get in!
What a loser!
--
Big D
Don MacAngus, Salt Lake City, Utah
http://home.earthlink.net/~bigdatsc/ Remove "SPAM" to email me.
wilt
>
> How dare the Mormon Church use the Poynesian Cultural Center to brainwash
> into a little room and told to wait. Meanwhile they played a Video of how
> Polynesian Cultural Center was a tourist attraction run by the private
> sector, not the Mormon Church.
Could be you only see what you want to see. I lived in Hawaii for
five years and know firsthand there is no effort to conceal the
connection between the LDS Church and the PCC. . .
>
> I am very concerned about what happened. First of all, in literature
> distributed by the State of Hawaii, no where does it state that the
> Polynesian Cultural Center is actually a place where Mormons try to
> brainwash the innocent into becoming Mormons.
Could be because there is no such "brainwash" effort conducted. Also,
since the PCC *is* a private venture and no way associated with the state
of Hawaii, there is no reason to include church status with the center.
> It should be made clear that
> this is a Mormon Function.
Was that the *only* thing you managed to remember from the PCC? My
sympathies and I would hope you manage a more balanced view in future.
> And in your state why is one religion promoted
> over another? Do you have a Baptist Cultural Center? A Catholic Cultural
> Center? A Buddhist Cultural Center? Why is one group allowed to deceive
> tourists and not all the rest?
First point - No religion is promoted over another. Any group may set up
any other center they wish. Public funds have not been used.
Second point - no one is deceived - brainwashed - or any such stuff and
nonsense as you allege. You had a problem with the video? Hope you
manage to get over yourself.
>
> The State of Hawaii should be ashamed. Does anyone there know what is going
> on? Don't you have separation of church and state?
Yep - and (again -- sigh --) since there are no public funds used in the
PCC your comment concerning separation of church and state is without
merit.
>
> I can promise you one thing, I will never go to the Polynesian Cult Center
> and I will inform anyone who cares to know about another scam in Hawaii.
Your absence will not be missed. Your arrogance is unfortunate.
wilt
Utah WillyАААА
> <<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH on
> earth today.>>
>
> this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
So you must be a satanist to not see the Truth.
Utah WillyАААА
> On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:41:14 GMT, "q" <q@q.q> wrote:
>
> ><<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH on
> >earth today.>>
>
> >this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
>
> I suspect he was not being serious. I.e. a troll.
Don't try to mislead the Brethren, satanachist!
Peggy Rogers
>
> Learn about the Mormons. . . what's to learn? You're just like the
> Amish, right?
My, it's refreshing to run across such such enlightened people here on
Usenet! Goodness knows, Mormons are just like the Amish in a lot of
ways:
* Some of our men wear beards (though not as many in the present as
in the past)
* A lot of us have ridden on a horse once or twice in our lives
* Some of our women claim that they don't like having their pictures
taken
* It's common for families to have a largish number of children
* Both groups regard the Bible as a holy book.
* Both groups consider themselves to be Christians.
* Neither Amish nor Mormon congregations have paid ministers.
* Both churchs were founded by a person whose first name began with the
letter J
Well, that's just for starters.
However, a quick perusal of Internet resources will show that there
are also a few inconsequential differences. The Amish do not have a
very strong presence on the 'net, though I found a few interesting
pages by checking Yahoo. (I found the one at
http://www.religioustolerance.org/amish.htm to be quite informative.)
A comparison of any of these to the offical Mormon (or, more correctly,
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) web page at
http://www.lds.org will serve to illustrate a few of these differences.
Peggy Rogers | a clarity shimmering
krogers?@xmission.com | just out of reach,
(Humans! Remove the ? | like blurred words;
to reply!) | --Durant Gullick
Arbe
=>Mormon Lie wrote:
=>>
=>> How dare the Mormon Church use the Poynesian Cultural Center to brainwash
=>> visitors to Hawaii. Myself and a whole busload of tourists were huddled
=>> into a little room and told to wait. Meanwhile they played a Video of how
=>> Joseph Smith created this religion to save the world. I thought the
=>> Polynesian Cultural Center was a tourist attraction run by the private
=>> sector, not the Mormon Church.
**** snip snip snip rant and replies
1) I've been at the PCC many many moons ago --
2) The real problem is that there is no mention of church sponsorship or
church involvement in any of the "tour litereature " - and there are
people who if they knew it was LDS related, would never go..
3) The show(s) were generally quite good - and probably worth the price
4) becasue it was many moons ago ( 1970's ) videos were not in vouge, but
i did not get any LDS pitch or "selling "
5) If I *had* been given a snow job , I would have been furious -- why ?
-after paying good money and having limited time to visit the center ( via
tour bus ), I would not stand still for *any* religious pitch.
6) So rather than attack the guy who complained, suggest someone check
out what really happened.
7) Take the complaint to the appropriate new group or the LDS
And No, I'm not LDS
And Yes, I and several others have been given the 20 hours of the LDS
snow job by a church elder ( and manager ) during work hours.. without a
chance to walk out, and not daring to complain because it would have been
"career limiting " -- so it those things DO happen -- and * could* have
happened at the PCC
----
--
* ARBE -- ARSCC SP2 -- Remove ARBE from e-mail to respond
* Damages limited to what you paid me for my opinion
q
BRING IT ON, FARM BOY!!!
q
actually, i'm just blind.
you always miss the obvious.
ken berg
because they seem strange.
However, I was recently through the airport in Salt Lake City, and was
impressed that they actually had a smoking lounge that wasn't a mile or so
away from the terminal like at other airports.
So hey, they can't be THAT bad of folks.
:)
Ken
go...@inreach.com
PS: As a Catholic, I wouldn't do well in Morman country, because I'd tell
them to cram it if they tried to force me (on the job) to convert to their
church. They'd snub me and I'd lose my job I suppose....
Arbe wrote in message ...
Bloody Viking
: In article <uEHY1.7$gG4...@news.eli.net>, "q" <q@q.q> wrote:
:> <<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH on
:> earth today.>>
:> this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
: So you must be a satanist to not see the Truth.
The mormon cult founder was a fake. He made the shit up about decrypting
the "egyptian" writings. 10 years after Smith founded his cult, real
scientists did decrypt the shit only to prove Smith was a liar!
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>
I can see why you posted this without using your real name.
Others have given you the facts regarding ownership of the PCC, but here is
something else you might consider. Several years ago the Premier of China (I
forget the name) visited the US for the first time. Guess where he went to
first on his journey -- yep, the PCC. In fact he was so impressed that he
asked for assistance to set up a similar cultural center in China, to
preserve the culture of his nation.
The Premier, without the "assistance" of the antiMormons to poison his mind,
did not see this as a big propaganda tool for the church, but as a way to
preserve a cultural heritage which might otherwise be lost. He wanted the
same thing in China, which the church assisted in creating.
The antis have really poisoned your mind from enjoying a truly uplifting
experience.
I think
Best regards,
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Bloody Viking <nos...@tako.wwa.com> wrote:
> In alt.religion.scientology Utah WillyАААА <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> : In article <uEHY1.7$gG4...@news.eli.net>, "q" <q@q.q> wrote:
>
> :> <<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH on
> :> earth today.>>
>
> :> this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
>
> : So you must be a satanist to not see the Truth.
>
> The mormon cult founder was a fake. He made the shit up about decrypting
> the "egyptian" writings. 10 years after Smith founded his cult, real
> scientists did decrypt the shit only to prove Smith was a liar!
>
Its amazing what some people will make up to (try) to prove a point.
Geoff Matthews
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Dooley
> Dooley wrote:
> >
> > Learn about the Mormons. . . what's to learn? You're just like the
> > Amish, right?
>
> My, it's refreshing to run across such such enlightened people here on
> Usenet! Goodness knows, Mormons are just like the Amish in a lot of
> ways:
Sorry, I didn't mean the Amish! I get all you cults mixed up sometimes!
Peggy Rogers
So, um... which "cult" _did_ you mean? Since there probably aren't many
Amish around to defend themselves, I'll simply point out that maybe,
just maybe, most thinking people wouldn't classify them as a "cult,"
even though they aren't exactly mainstream Christians. We Mormons don't
care for that classification either, but we've heard it so often that
sometimes it doesn't seem worth the trouble to protest.
Gully Foyle
wrote:
>In alt.religion.scientology Utah Willy€€€€ <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>: In article <uEHY1.7$gG4...@news.eli.net>, "q" <q@q.q> wrote:
>
>:> <<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH on
>:> earth today.>>
>
>:> this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
>
>: So you must be a satanist to not see the Truth.
>
>The mormon cult founder was a fake. He made the shit up about decrypting
>the "egyptian" writings. 10 years after Smith founded his cult, real
>scientists did decrypt the shit only to prove Smith was a liar!
>
Religion in a nutshell.
XXIII
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IDIOT, n.
A member of a large and powerful tribe whose
influence in human affairs has always been dominant
and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to
any special field of thought or action, but "pervades
and regulates the whole." He has the last word in
everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the
fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations
of speech and circumscribes conduct with a
dead-line.
Ambrose Bierce
_________________________________________________________________
Gully Foyle
<walla...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>How dare the Mormon Church use the Poynesian Cultural Center to brainwash
>visitors to Hawaii. Myself and a whole busload of tourists were huddled
>into a little room and told to wait. Meanwhile they played a Video of how
>Joseph Smith created this religion to save the world. I thought the
>Polynesian Cultural Center was a tourist attraction run by the private
>sector, not the Mormon Church.
>
>I am very concerned about what happened. First of all, in literature
>distributed by the State of Hawaii, no where does it state that the
>Polynesian Cultural Center is actually a place where Mormons try to
>brainwash the innocent into becoming Mormons. It should be made clear that
>this is a Mormon Function. And in your state why is one religion promoted
>over another? Do you have a Baptist Cultural Center? A Catholic Cultural
>Center? A Buddhist Cultural Center? Why is one group allowed to deceive
>tourists and not all the rest?
>
>The State of Hawaii should be ashamed. Does anyone there know what is going
>on? Don't you have separation of church and state?
>
>I can promise you one thing, I will never go to the Polynesian Cult Center
>and I will inform anyone who cares to know about another scam in Hawaii.
>People of Hawaii should be ashamed.
>
The worst part is they don't sell caffinated drinks.
Haole
(snipped a bunch of silly complaints about the PCC)
> The worst part is they don't sell caffinated drinks.
Amen to that!
-Haole
--
When reggae gets big in a small town
I just wanna leave town
-$winging Utter$
q
and just FORGET about getting a beer...
Ronnie Bray
the fake doctor and fake Egyptologist was exposed by the Browns on Phoenix
and he admitted he was a liar and no Egyptologist and stopped his fake
money-spinning lecture tours and ended up as a short-order cook for a fast
food outlet. Any proof of this scientific proof?
Ronnie Bray
any building I was thinking about entering so that I could decide for myself
where I went and where I did not go.
If there is no Baptist etc cultural centre in the places you mention why
don't you ask the Baptists? Are you really serious? Perhaps your mummy
took you in by the hand and you were not able to exercise your personal
freedom. If so, I am sorry and you need to complain to your mummy, not to
the wonderful, warm Latter-day saints.
http://rulds2.com
q <q@q.q> wrote in message news:uEHY1.7$gG4...@news.eli.net...
><<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH on
>earth today.>>
>
>this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
>
Maybe so... but it will be. I'll warn you... by then, it may be too late
http://rulds2.com
Besides... did you see them? Do you know egyptian? I don't think
ressurecting an ancient language written completely in symbols is and "exact
science."
Bloody Viking <nos...@tako.wwa.com> wrote in message
news:711rl9$7mi$2...@hirame.wwa.com...
>In alt.religion.scientology Utah Willy€€€€ <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>: In article <uEHY1.7$gG4...@news.eli.net>, "q" <q@q.q> wrote:
>
>:> <<Listen, you apostate loser, our church is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH
on
>:> earth today.>>
>
>:> this has yet to be demonstrated with any fraction of certainty.
>
>: So you must be a satanist to not see the Truth.
>
>The mormon cult founder was a fake. He made the shit up about decrypting
>the "egyptian" writings. 10 years after Smith founded his cult, real
>scientists did decrypt the shit only to prove Smith was a liar!
>
http://rulds2.com
reguardless of their lifestyle. He knows them and loves them more than
parents can love their children. He died for you and me.
I also know that He has decreed that we can only return to Him through
accepting His sacrafice, and willfully living His commandments (including
participating in His ordinances).
I think most people here would agree that this personal, loving person is
the Christ we all worship.
It is funny how easily we forget how God might feel if he saw all of this
hatred being tossed around in this newsgroup. Hatred is eveil reguardless
of who started it. If you are a true Christian, you will stop it, and not
be provoked easily to anger.
Now what does that leave you? You decide, but I guarantee you it is better
than a heart full of hate toward a person God loves just as much as you.
Dooley <bea...@GTE.net> wrote in message
news:712sup$p7a$2...@news-1.news.gte.net...
q
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
> Subject: There Is No Such Person As "Karl Zimmer"
> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:05:41 GMT
> Organization: ICGNetcom
>
>
> "KARL ZIMMER" IS A FICTITIOUS PERSON
No. Jeffrey G. Brown is Karl Zimmer. They both act the same and
they both use the same methods and attack the same kind of people.
Either Jeffrey is Karl or Karl is Jeffrey; they are one and the same.
Can any one prove contrawise?
Rabbit
> Damn shame that welfare is on the downhill slope to ending. Already worthless
> niggers are forced to work for their monthly stipend. The savings already
> enourmous because cheats don't want to put in the hours when they can be crack
> ho's and pimps.
>
See my comment below.
> ... I'm not able to read alot ...
Well, that much is obvious, given your apparent level of education.
Rabbit
T Mauch
From: deppi...@aol.compugeek (DeppityBob)
Date: Thu, Oct 8, 1998 5:40 AM
Message-id: <19981008014001...@ng37.aol.com>
Joe, do you have ANY idea how ludicrous this all sounds?
CF:>>>>No, Dep, Joe is in LAA LAA Land, remember. If it makes the Germans look
good, and or Jews look bad, Joe goes for it.
Besides the fact that
it sounds--and is--ridiculous, what proof do you have that such a thing was
ever done? What is your documentation?
CF:>>>>>Dep, Joe feels that *he* is above having to document or prove anything
he says. He is a very sick person, more to be pitied that anything else.
BTW.....yours truly entered Dachau around 2:00 PM on Sunday April 29th, 1945.
Spent 3-4 days in and around the camp and many sub-camps. But That's another
story.
Chuck Ferree
Dep
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"MY SCREENNAME IS LEGION!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
Please visit these web sites:
http://remember.org/index.html
http://www2.3dresearch.com/~june/Vincent/Camps/CampsEngl.html
parker
Rabbit wrote in message <364757D0...@NOSPAMyahoo.com>...
I definitely don't think he made it to Bible Study, if he did he was
asleep.
Parker
par...@p-c-net.net
*use this link if you reply via e-mail*
Bloody Viking
>In article <710ceb$gkj$1...@nnrp2.snfc21.pbi.net>, "Gear" says...>
>Post a pic or he claims spank!!
>
Ahhh ain't that cute, pretending like you just don't get it. JimmyK,
Master of the Backpeddle.
No, I said post YOUR pics. I couldn't give a shit less what everyone else
looks like, but seeing as how you want to talk shit, lets all have a real
look at you and be very impressed.
See, I think you're really just a scrawny little pussy boy. Why don't you
prove me wrong?
You woundn't want everyone to think you talk shit but can't back it up would
you?
>
>Capitalize that MEOW rookie!
>
How about you see if you can hold your breath till that happens webtv'er.
Webtv'ers this and webtv'ers that, right jimbo? How is your little webtv
these days jimmy?
Getting all your mail and say, did you get the bitchin Plus? Oh and how
about them upgrades! WooHoo.
Don't forget to keep spare batteries handy for your toy, glow-in-the-dark
keyboard........OTHERWISE YOU'LL HAVE TO USE THE REMOTE!!
BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!
Whatever happened to the good ol' dmv? Oh yeah....lmfao again.
meow I say, meow.
Pfffffft.
Don't forget the picture dumbass.
THE LION
FOKOF
Tom B.
Bloody Viking wrote in message
<11119820...@macrural.net>...
Gully Foyle
wrote:
>
>(snipped a bunch of silly complaints about the PCC)
>
>> The worst part is they don't sell caffinated drinks.
>
>Amen to that!
>
You have something against caffeine?
Gully Foyle
><<The worst part is they don't sell caffinated drinks.>>
>
>and just FORGET about getting a beer...
>
Still those Mormon girls know how to screw and show you a good time,
so it's not all a dead loss.
cdo...@my-dejanews.com
four...@Zcryogen.com (Gully Foyle) wrote:
snip
>
> IDIOT, n.
> A member of a large and powerful tribe whose
> influence in human affairs has always been dominant
> and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to
> any special field of thought or action, but "pervades
> and regulates the whole." He has the last word in
> everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the
> fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations
> of speech and circumscribes conduct with a
> dead-line.
Recent election results demonstrate that this tribe is more numerious than at
first suspected.
Best regards,
Charles dowis
T Mauch
><snipped the material plagarized from the Saints Alive website>
>
>Tim, any reason you can't render unto Ed Decker what is Ed Decker's?
Well Done Louis! - your attack on the foul Harry covington and his cronies
does you Credit! - I never thought you had it in you!. Hvae I misjudged you
Louie?.
Armando Corbelle
T Mauch wrote in message <16119818...@puddy.net>...
Armando Corbelle
> caro...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > In article <364CA827...@earthlink.net>,
> > rgp...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > >
> > > ==============================
> > >
> > > Phillips
> > >
> > > When carolynk attempts to tell us that the huge influx of Mexicans does not
> > harm
> > > ordinary American workers, then her argument is not with me; it's with the
> > Law of
> > > Supply and Demand.
> > >
> > > ==========================================
> >
> > "WHATEVER"
> >
> > Econ 101 is a dangerous thing. I've already demonstrated the fallacy of Mr.
> > Phillips' arguments 6 ways to Sunday. Besides, Mr. Phillips has openly stated
> > that even if he believed that immigration of Mexicans was the best thing since
> > sliced bread from an Economic standpoint, he JUST DOESN'T want anymore none-
> > whites.
>
> ========================================
>
> Phillips
>
> "Econ 101 is a dangerous thing." Hmmmm.
>
> I try hard not to make a fetish of consistency, but I do have a problem with
> deviousness.
> Allow me to quote from carolynk's original posting on this issue.
>
> "Racism is founded on 'they're taking our jobs' or 'they're stealing our
> resources' is insane and flies completely in the face of both rational economic
> theory and discussion as well as the dubious presumption that whites are somehow
> racially superior."
>
> Note here that she is making an appeal to "rational economic theory." - store that
> in your memory bank: rational economic theory.
>
> Yet what happens when I throw back in her face the most fundamental of all
> economic laws, the most inescapable of all economic laws, the most universally
> accepted of all economic laws, the most intuitively self-evident of all economic
> laws: THE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
>
> What happens? We get the snide little observation that "Econ 101 is a dangerous
> thing."
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>
> >
> >
> > I reiterate my point that the non-sensical economic argument are a mere ploy
> > in a spin campaign to make irrational racism appear to be grounded in some
> > rational basis.
> >
> > Carolyn
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Phillips
Reiterate all you like, lady. Maybe it will do you some good but I very much doubt it.
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Gully Foyle
>In article <3655ec84....@news.techno.net.au>,
> four...@Zcryogen.com (Gully Foyle) wrote:
>snip
>>
>> IDIOT, n.
>> A member of a large and powerful tribe whose
>> influence in human affairs has always been dominant
>> and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to
>> any special field of thought or action, but "pervades
>> and regulates the whole." He has the last word in
>> everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the
>> fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations
>> of speech and circumscribes conduct with a
>> dead-line.
>
>Recent election results demonstrate that this tribe is more numerious than at
>first suspected.
>
Elections always bring the idiots out of the woodwork, strangely
enough. While I understand that our current bastardised form of
Western democracy depends on elections - they shake my faith in
humanity regularly.
XXIII
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IDIOT, n.
A member of a large and powerful tribe whose
influence in human affairs has always been dominant
and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to
any special field of thought or action, but "pervades
and regulates the whole." He has the last word in
everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the
fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations
of speech and circumscribes conduct with a
dead-line.
Ambrose Bierce
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