BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
We will DEPROGRAM you from the evil of Islam!
We will help you throw off the yoke of Islamic oppression and step into the
LIGHt of FREEDOM!
BE YE HEALED!!!
I say it again ...
BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
"Adhabuhu" <adha...@djehannama.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Adhabuhu
>
>
>
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
drahcir
CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! \(God Bless America!\)"
<Tellis....@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Just relax and use your MIND.
>
>We will DEPROGRAM you from the evil of Islam!
>
>We will help you throw off the yoke of Islamic oppression and step into the
>LIGHt of FREEDOM!
>
>BE YE HEALED!!!
>
>I say it again ...
>
>BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
>
it really does seem as if he is cracking up, doesn't it?
Adhabuhu
"> Just relax and use your MIND.
>
> We will DEPROGRAM you from the evil of Islam!
>
> We will help you throw off the yoke of Islamic oppression and step into
the
> LIGHt of FREEDOM!
>
> BE YE HEALED!!!
>
> I say it again ...
>
> BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
>
>
the Truth. As long as you are alive, it means you still have time to accept
Islam as the Last Revelation from Allah swt. Hurry up, don't postpone it.
Death can strike anytime.
Adhabuhu
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
"drahcir" <you...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 02:21:18 GMT, "Allah SUCKS! America will
> CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! \(God Bless America!\)"
> <Tellis....@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Just relax and use your MIND.
> >
> >We will DEPROGRAM you from the evil of Islam!
> >
> >We will help you throw off the yoke of Islamic oppression and step into
the
> >LIGHt of FREEDOM!
> >
> >BE YE HEALED!!!
> >
> >I say it again ...
> >
> >BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
> >
> it really does seem as if he is cracking up, doesn't it?
LOL.
Poor guy is under a lot of stress.
But I take his newfound love for flowers, art work, and basket weaving as a
GOOD sign!
I believe his deprogramming is starting to take effect!
We may be able to SAVE Adhabuhu!
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
There is no death in Jesus Christ.
As Christians, we do not fear death but look forward to glory.
Speaking of which, it is time for you to THROW OFF the YOKE OF ISLAM and
step into the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
Adhabuhu
"Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God
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A devout follower of Jesus (pbuh) associating himself with atheists like
Cthulhu and polytheists Hindus. Jesus (pbuh) will be the first person to
turn his face away from you.
Adhabuhu
Wake up JT before it's too late.
Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God Bless America!)
Jesus Christ is faithful and brings everlasting life to all who trust in
Him.
And kind of people that Jesus will turn away from are those who have
rejected his Gospel of Truth and who follow a false religions like Islam
that believes that killing babies is somehow justified as "self-defense".
Jesus said: "Whosoever hurst one of these little children will be cast into
the everlasting Fires of Hell".
Wake up Adhabuhu before it is too late.
It sounds like you are under a lot of stress.
But I take your newfound love for flowers, art work, and basket weaving as a
GOOD sign!
I believe your deprogramming is starting to take effect!
We may be able to SAVE you yet Adhabuhu!
Continue with your artwork and basket weaving tonight, take two aspirin at
bedtime, and post me in the morning as to how you are feeling.
Ok?
LOL
-- Jacob T. (the "deprogrammer")
nunia
the dead know nothing-kind of like you-but your alive-but brain dead!
Adhabuhu
"Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God
Bless America!)" <Tellis....@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
Jesus (pbuh) will come back and will be a muslim warrior with el-mahdi.
Both will fight the ultimate war and both they will crush the ennemy.
JT, you are a polytheist. This should be a concern to you. Another sign
that you are heading to that terrible place. There is still room to change
your mind.
1.2 billion muslims can't be wrong. Muhammad sas is the Last Messenger of
God,
His message is foe mankind in its entirety. Grab my rescuing hand before
it's late.
Adhabuhu
Cthulhu
And what truth is that, Buhu?
The truth is death is a mystery, no one knows what happens.
Adhabuhu
"Cthulhu" <is...@dumbideas.com> wrote in message
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In your case, it's going terrible if you stay on this course. No one would
lke it to happen to you. But it seems that you are using your FRE WILL to be
in this position. You will be judged according to what you have done with
your will.
You can still change position. Just use your brain and look at things with
atention. Hopefully you'll trigger that hormone which causes your skin to
"goosebump" then things will change.
Adhabuhu
Adhabuhu
"nunia" <nu...@HELLFIRE.NET> wrote in message
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> hey buhu-death is death-it be all over.
That's where everything starts!!!!
> the dead know nothing-kind of like you-but your alive-but brain dead!
Somebody before you thousands year ago said the same thing. Here is the
answer from the Qu'ran:
36:78 And he puts forth for Us a parable, and forgets his own creation. He
says: "Who will give LIFE to these bones when they have rotted away and
became dust?"
36:79 Say: (O Muhammad SAW) "He will give life to them Who created them
for the first time! And He is the All-Knower of every creation!"
Adhabuhu
"People are asleep, as soon as they die they realize their failure" said
Muhammad sas.
Cthulhu
>
> Jesus (pbuh) will come back and will be a muslim warrior with
el-mahdi.
> Both will fight the ultimate war and both they will crush the
ennemy.
> JT, you are a polytheist. This should be a concern to you. Another
sign
> that you are heading to that terrible place. There is still room to
change
> your mind.
> 1.2 billion muslims can't be wrong. Muhammad sas is the Last
Messenger of
> God,
By your own reasoning, 2 billion Christians can't be wrong. Argumentum
ad numerum, young grasshopper, is a fallacy.
Adhabuhu
Not all of them believe in Trinity.
Adhabuhu
Cthulhu
> > > >
> > > I'm the one who is worried about you. As soon as DEATH hit you,
> > you'll know
> > > the Truth. As long as you are alive, it means you still have
time to
> > accept
> > > Islam as the Last Revelation from Allah swt. Hurry up, don't
> > postpone it.
> > > Death can strike anytime.
> > >
> > > Adhabuhu
> >
> > And what truth is that, Buhu?
> >
> > The truth is death is a mystery, no one knows what happens.
>
> In your case, it's going terrible if you stay on this course. No one
would
> lke it to happen to you. But it seems that you are using your FRE
WILL to be
> in this position. You will be judged according to what you have done
with
> your will.
> You can still change position. Just use your brain and look at
things with
> atention. Hopefully you'll trigger that hormone which causes your
skin to
> "goosebump" then things will change.
How do you know it is going to be terrible?
Cthulhu
> "People are asleep, as soon as they die they realize their failure"
said
> Muhammad sas.
And how many times did he die and return to tell these things?
Cthulhu
You're missing the point. Saying "Since lots of people believe this or
that, it must be true." is not a valid argument. It's a fallacy known
as Argumentum ad numerum and closely related to Argumentum ad populum.
Adhabuhu
You are missing the real deal.
Adhabuhu
Cthulhu
When you can prove your god exists, then I listen to such claims.
Adhabuhu
With Allah's help, I will make you see Him, feel Him, and hopefully love
Him.
Adhabuhu
666
>
> I'm the one who is worried about you. As soon as DEATH hit you,
There you go again wishing death on people... allah would be so
proud of you!
> Death can strike anytime.
Too true, those darn muslim terrorists can strike anytime.
nunia
KNOWLEDGE-not some 1000 year old voodoo shit.
666
>
> <Tellis....@worldnet.att.net> wrote
> > There is no death in Jesus Christ.
> > As Christians, we do not fear death but look forward to glory.
> > Speaking of which, it is time for you to THROW OFF the YOKE OF
> > ISLAM and step into the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
> >
> > BE YE HEALED, ADHABUHU!!!
hehehehe JT a pentecostal holy-spirit-filled tongues-speaking
healer??? Just what we needed on ARI... :D
> A devout follower of Jesus (pbuh) associating himself with
> atheists like Cthulhu and polytheists Hindus.
I feel insulted that you omitted my name.
> Jesus (pbuh) will be the first person to turn his face away from
> you.
Au contraire Buhu, Y'shua said he didn't come for self-righteous
people. He also said if anyone comes to him, in no wise would He
reject them. You are grossly mistaken on the character of the man.
Cthulhu
> > A devout follower of Jesus (pbuh) associating himself with
> > atheists like Cthulhu and polytheists Hindus.
Fufu, how many times must I tell you I am not an atheist? I've told you
before, I am.
Seven_Canyons
YaBaDaBaDoo
"Allah SUCKS! America will CASTRATE the nuts off that demon-pig Allah! (God
Bless America!)" <Tellis....@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Cthulhu
And here ladies and gentlemen we have the seeds of hoplessness on display,
"Please, no flash photography, you might scare the creature."
Adhabuhu
Are you telling me that yo're a believer now?!!!!
Then, welcome home brother.
Adhabuhu
Adhabuhu
Hopelessness!!!! Still don't know me yet.
(JT + HE + Cthulhu + HK + Veteran + Shayatin + 666 ) * endurance <
Adhabuhu's endurance
You burst your energy in the short run, I'll get you in the long run. Allah
swt has taught us to be PATIENT.
Photography is one of the medium that I use to promote my cause. It's an
art, a splendide art especially when you look at the objects with God's Eye!
Adhabuhu
Peter P
I found this posted on this news group some time ago and I suggest you
do yourself a favour and take 20 minutes to read the entire article,
check all the sources for yourself before making up your mind. You have
nothing to loose and all the more to gain.
Peter P
Muhammad Spoke the Satanic Verses - The Evidence and Proof
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Responses/Saifullah/sverses.htm
INTRODUCTION
MUHAMMAD SPOKE THE SATANIC VERSES - THE EVIDENCE AND PROOF
THE EVIDENCE: THE EARLY ISLAMIC SOURCES
DISCUSSION / REVIEW OF THE SIRA MATERIAL ON THE SATANIC VERSES.
EVIDENCE FROM SAHIH HADITH THAT MUHAMMAD SPOKE THE SATANIC VERSES
FROM THE QURAN
AN ISLAMIC SCHOLAR'S COMMENTARY (TAFSIR)
OTHER COMMENTS
FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM'S COMPLAINTS AND DENIALS
CONCLUSIONS
BIBLIOGRAPHY
INTRODUCTION
One of the most embarrassing events in Muhammad's life occurred when
Satan put his words in Muhammad's mouth. Muhammad spoke Satan's words
as the word of God. This event is documented by several early Muslim
scholars and referenced in the Hadith and Quran. Later Muslims, ashamed
that their self declared prophet spoke Satan's words, denied the event
occurred. A myriad of excuses and denials have been put forth by these
later Muhammadans to cover up Muhammad's sinful error.
It must be pointed out again that the "Satanic Verses" event is not
something made up by non-Muslims. The event is recorded by the earliest
Islamic sources available on Muhammad's life. No one should think that
it is a story made up by people who are critical of Islam. It is an
episode directly found in the early Islamic records.
This topic is one of the most controversial in Islam. Satan caused
Muhammad to recite his words as God's words. The background to this
event is that Muhammad and his followers were being persecuted for
attacking the pagan faiths of Mecca, and he did not want to further
offend his Arab tribesmen, and, he wanted them to become his followers,
i.e. Muslims. In fact Muhammad wished that God would not reveal
anything further to him that would further alienate his fellow Arabs.
So when opportunity arose, he spoke what Satan put into his heart and
mind as God's word.
In the Old Testament (OT), if someone caused the people to worship
other gods he was put to death - Deuteronomy 13:1 - 5:
"If prophets or those who divine by dreams appear among you and promise
you omens or portents, and the omens or the portents declared by them
take place, and they say, "Let us follow other gods" (whom you have not
known) "and let us serve them," you must not heed the words of those
prophets or those who divine by dreams; for the Lord your God is
testing you, to know whether you indeed love the Lord your God with all
your heart and soul....But those prophets or those who divine by dreams
shall be put to death for having spoken treason against the Lord you
God...So you shall purge the evil from your midst." [1]
This is exactly what Muhammad did - he advocated the worship of pagan
deities as intercessors with God. Later, after Muhammad admitted his
mistake and took back the words, he had the audacity to say that God
made light of the event! God has never made light of sin or false
prophets.
Think about it, which of the Old Testament prophets ever spoke the
words of Satan? Those prophets loved their people, but they persisted
in speaking the truth to them, not compromising the word of God to gain
peace and converts as Muhammad did.
MUHAMMAD SPOKE THE SATANIC VERSES - THE EVIDENCE AND PROOF
Muslims frequently use the phrase "bring forth the proof". Well, the
proof is presented here.
This event is documented by the four early biographical writers of
Muhammad's life: Ibn Ishaq, Wakidi, Ibn Sa'd, and Tabari. The Hadith
and Quran also contain direct references. Additionally several other
Islamic scholars on Hadith (traditions) support the event's occurrence.
One Islamic book on Muhammad's life provides the following list:
"... many of the traditionalists have recorded it with reference to the
chains of its narrators. Among them more commonly known are: al-Tabari,
Ibn Abi Hatim, Ibn al-Mundhir, Ibn Mardauyah, Ibn Ishaq, Musa ibn
'Uqba, and Abu Ma'shar. It is all the more strange that Ibn Hajar, a
recognized authority on traditions insists on the truth of this report
and says, "As we have mentioned above, three of its chains of narrators
satisfy the conditions requisite for an authentic report." [2]
I have found four of the early Islamic biographical sources for this
story in English. Therefore, prior to a discussion and analysis of the
event, their writings should be reviewed. What first follows are the
four accounts related from the 4 early sources:
1) Tabari's "History", published by SUNY, and translated by Watt [3],
2) the "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir", (The Book of the Major Classes),
translated by S. Moinul Haq [4],
3) the "Sirat Rasulallah" (The Life of Allah's Prophet) by Ibn Ishaq,
translated by A. Guillaume [5],
4) Wakidi's biographical material on Muhammad also includes the story
of Muhammad speaking Satan's words. I have not been able to find
Wakidi's entire work in English but Wakidi's work is quoted by W. Muir
in "The Life of Mahomet" [6].
5) A sub source from #3 above is found in "New Light on the Life of
Muhammad", by A.. Guillaume [7]. This source is from a manuscript
containing information from other sources as well as Ibn Ishaq. The
writer of the manuscript, Yunus ibn Bukayr, heard Ibn Ishaq's lectures
at Kufa (located in modern Iraq), and made notes.
6) Additional supporting evidence will be provided from the Sahih
Hadith of Bukhari [8].
7) Finally, verses from the Quran will be provided as concurring
evidence that Muhammad spoke the Quranic verses [9]
THE EVIDENCE: THE EARLY ISLAMIC SOURCES
NOTE: My comments will be in [ ] type brackets. Author's brackets will
be in ( ) type brackets.
TABARI volume 6, page 107
SATAN CASTS A FALSE REVELATION ON THE MESSENGER OF GOD'S TONGUE
The messenger of God was eager for the welfare of his people and wished
to effect a reconciliation with them in whatever ways he could. It is
said that he wanted to find a way to do this, and what happened was a
follows. (170)
Ibn Humayd - Salamah-Muhammad b. Ishaq - Yazid b. Ziyad al-Madani -
Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the messenger of God saw how his tribe
turned their backs on him and was grieved to see them shunning the
message he had brought to them from God, he longed in his soul that
something would come to him from God which would reconcile him with his
tribe. With his love for his tribe and his eagerness for their welfare
it would have delighted him if some of the difficulties which they made
for him could have been smoothed out, and he debated with himself and
fervently desired such an outcome. Then God revealed:(171)
"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he
deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..."
and when he came to the words:
Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other?
Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he
desired to bring to his people, the words:
"These are the high flying cranes; verily their intercession is
accepted with approval. (172)
When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and delighted at
the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him,
while the Muslims, having complete trust in their prophet in respect of
the messages which he brought from God, did not suspect him of error,
illusion, or mistake. When he came to the prostration, having completed
the surah, he prostrated himself and the Muslims did likewise,
following their prophet, trusting in the message which he had brought
and following his example. Those polytheists of the Quraysh and others
who were in the mosque (173) likewise prostrated themselves because of
the reference to their gods which they had heard, so that there was no
one in the mosque, believer orunbeliever, who did not prostrate
himself. The one exception was al-Walid b. Al-Mughirah, who was a very
old man and could not prostrate himself; but he took a handful of soil
from the valley in his hand and bowed over that. Then they all
dispersed from the mosque. The Quraysh left delighted by the mention of
their gods which they had hared, saying,"Muhammad has mentioned our
goes in the most favorable way possible, stating in his recitation that
they are the high flying cranes and that their intercession is received
with approval."
The news of the prostration reached those of the messenger of God's
companions who were in Abyssinia and people said, "The Quraysh have
accepted Islam." Some rose up to return, while others remained behind.
Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said, "Muhammad, what
have you done? You have recited to the people that which I did not
bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to
you." Then the messenger of God was much grieved and feared God
greatly, but God sent down a revelation to him, for He was merciful to
him, consoling him and making the matter light for him, informing him
that there had never been a prophet or a messenger before him who
desired as he desired and wished as he wished but that Satan had cast
words into his recitation, as he had cast words on Muhammad's tongue.
Then God cancelled what Satan had thus cast, and established his verses
by telling him that he was like other prophets and messengers, and
revealed:
"Never did we send a messenger of a prophet before you but that when he
recited (the Message) Satan cast words into his recitation (umniyyah).
God abrogates what Satan casts. The God established his verses. God is
knower, wise. (174)
Thus God removed the sorrow from his messenger, reassured him about
that which he had feared and cancelled the words which Satan had cast
on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes whose
intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed, following the
mention of "al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other," the words:
"Are yours the males and his the females? That indeed were an unfair
division!Ź They are but names which you have named, you and your
fathers."
to the words:
to whom he wills and accept (175)
This means, how can the intercession of their gods avail with God?
When Muhammad brought a revelation from God canceling what Satan had
cast on the tongue of His prophet, the Quraysh said,"Muhammad has
repented of what he said concerning the position of your gods with God,
and has altered it and brought something else." Those two phrases which
Satan had cast on the tongue of the Messenger of God were in the mouth
of every polytheists, and they became even more ill-disposed and more
violent in their persecution of those of them who had accepted Islam
and followed the messenger of God.
Those of the companions of the messenger of God who had left Abyssinia
upon hearing that Quraysh had accepted Islam by prostration themselves
with the messenger of God now approached.When they were near Mecca,
they heard that the report that the people of Mecca had accepted Islam
was false. Not one of them entered Mecca without obtaining protection
or entering secretly. Among those who came to Mecca and remained there
until they emigrated to al-Madinah and were present with the prophet at
Badr, were, from the Banu Abd Shams b. Abd Manaf b. Quasyy, Uthman b.
Afafan b. Abi al-As b. Umayyah, accompanied by his wife Ruaqyyah the
daughter of the messenger of God; Abu Hudhayfah b. Utbah b. Rabiah b.
Abd Shames, accompanied by his wife Sahlah bt. Suhalyl; together with a
number of others numbering thirty three men.
Al-Qasim b. Al-Hasan - al Husayn b. Daud - Hajja - Abu Mashar -
Muhammad b. Kab al-Qurazi and Muhammad b. Qays: The messenger of God
was sitting in a large gathering of Quraysh, wishing that day that no
revelation would come to him from God which could cause them to turn
away from him. Then God revealed:
"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he
deceived..."
and the Messenger of God recited it until he came to:
"Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the
other?"
when Satan cast on his tongue two phrases:
"These are the high flying cranes; verily their intercession is to be
desired. (176)
He uttered them and went on to complete the surah. When he prostrated
himself at the end of the surah, the whole company prostrated
themselves with him. Al-Walid b. al-Mughirah raised some dust to his
forehead and bowed over that, since he was a very old man and could not
prostrate himself. They were satisfied with what Muhammad had uttered
and said, "We recognize that it is God who gives life and death, who
creates and who provides sustenance, but if these gods of ours
intercede for us with him, and if you give them a share, we are with
you."
That evening Gabriel came to him and reviewed the surah with him, and
when he reached the two phrases which Satan had cast upon his tongue he
said, "I did not bring you these two." Then the messenger of God said,
"I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to him words
which He has not spoken." Then God revealed to him:
"And they indeed strove hard to beguile you away from what we have
revealed to you, that you should invent other than it against us...
to the words:
"and then you would have found no helper against us" (177)
He remained grief stricken and anxious until the revelation of the
verse:
"Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you... to the
words...God is knower, wise. (178)
When those who had emigrated to Abyssinia heard that all the people of
Mecca had accepted Islam, they returned to their clans, saying,"They
are more dear to us"; but they found that the people had reversed their
decision when God cancelled what Satan had cast upon the messenger of
God's tongue.
END OF QUOTES
WATT'S NOTES IN TABARI
170) This section is also omitted by Ibn Hisham, perhaps because he
felt it was discreditable to the Prophet.
171) Surah 53; the verses quoted are 1-3 and 19-20.
172) An alternative reading to turtada is turtaja, meaning, "is to be
desired or hoped for"
173) The sacred area around the Ka'bah was not, of course, and Islamic
mosque at this period, though the word masjid, "place of prostration,
mosque,"seems to have been applied to it.
174) 22:52. The translation deviates here from that of Pickthall in
order to make it correspond with what is required by Tabari's account.
The meanings for tamanna and umniyyah, "recite" and "recitation", are
well attested (see Lisan s.v.M-N-Y). An alternative rendering for this
verse would be: "Never did we send a messenger of a prophet before you
but that when he formed a wish Satan threw (some vanity) into his
desire..."
175) 53:21-23, 26, Tabari explains diza, "unfair," as meaning 'awja,
"crooked."
176) Surah 53. This version of the false verses has la-turja, "to be
desired or hoped for."
177) 7:73, 75
178) 22:52
TABARI'S TIMELINE
Hijrah to Abyssinia - page 98
Boycott - page105
Satanic verses spoken by Muhammad- page 107
Muslims return from Abyssinia - page 109
Boycott repealed - page 112
From Ibn Sa'd's "Kitab al Tabaqat al Kabir", Volume 1, parts 1 and 2,
pages 236 - 239, translated by S. Moinul Haq, published by the Pakistan
Historical Society.
[NOTE: I have corrected some spelling and punctuation errors and
changed some archaic language].
ACCOUNT OF THE CAUSES OF THE RETURN OF THE COMPANIONS OF THE PROPHET,
FROM ABYSSINIA
Muhammad Ibn Umar informed us; he said: Yunus Ibn Muhammad Ibn Fudalah
al-Azfari related to me on the authority of his father (second chain)
he (Ibn Sa'd) said: Kthir Ibn Zayd related to me on the authority of al-
Muttalib Ibn Abd Allah Ibn Hantab; they said: "the apostle of Allah had
seen his people departing from him. He was one day sitting alone when
he expressed a desire: "I wish, Allah had not revealed to me anything
distasteful to them."
Then the apostle of Allah, approached them (Quraysh) and got close to
them, and they also came near to him. One day he was sitting in their
assembly near the Ka'bah, and he recited: "By the Star when it sets",
(1) till he reached, "Have ye thought upon Al-Uzza and Manat, the
third, the other". (2) Satan made him repeat these two phrases: "These
idols are high and their intercession is expected". The apostle of
Allah repeated them, and he went on reciting the whole surah and then
fell in prostration, and the people also fell in prostration with him.
Al-Walid Ibn al-Mughirah, who was an old man and could not prostrate,
took a handful of dust to his forehead and prostrated on it. It is
said: Abu Uhayhah Sa'id Ibn al-As, being an old man took dust and
prostrated on it. Some people say: It was al-Walid who took the dust;
others say: It was Abu Uhayhah; while other say: Both did it. They were
pleased with what the apostle of Allah had uttered. They said: "We know
that Allah gives life and causes death. He creates and gives us
provisions, but our deities will intercede with Him, and in what you
have assigned to them, we are with you." These words pricked the
apostle of Allah.
He was sitting in his house and when it was evening, Gabriel came to
him and revised the surah. Then Gabriel said: "Did I bring these two
phrases?" The apostle of Allah said: "I ascribed to Allah, what He had
not said."
Then Allah revealed to him: "And they indeed strove hard to beguile you
(Muhammad) away from that which We have inspired you, that you should
invent other than it against Us; and then would they have accepted you
as a friend. And if We had not made you wholly firm you might almost
have inclined to them a little, Then had We made you taste a double
(punishment) of living and a double (punishment) of dying then had you
found no helper against Us.""(1)
Muhammad Ibn Umar informed us; he said: Muhammad Ibn Abd Allah related
to me on the authority of al-Zuhri, he on the authority of Abu Bakr Ibn
Abd al-Rahman Ibn al-Harith Ibn Hisham; he said: "This prostration
became know to people till the news reached Abyssinia and the
Companions of the apostle of Allah that the people of Makkah fell in
protraction and joined Islam including al-Walid. Ibn al-Mughirah and
Abu Uhayhah who prostrated behind the prophet. The people said: "When
such persons have joined Islam, who else remains in Makkah?" They said:
"Our relatives are dear to us." So they returned. Where they were at a
distance of one hour's walk from Makkah, they confronted some horsemen
of Kinanah. They inquired about the Quraysh and their affairs. The
horse men said: "Muhammad spoke well of their deities, so they followed
him but then they turned apostate. He began to abuse their gods and
they began to harm him. We left them in this struggle." They discussed
that they should return to Abyssinia; but then they said: "We have
reached here, so let us enter (the town), see the Quraysh and visit our
families and then return.""
Muhammad Ibn Umar informed us; he said: Muhammad Ibn Abd Allah related
to me on the authority of al-Zuhri, he on the authority of Abu Bakr Ibn
Abd al Rahman; he said: "They entered Makkah and none entered it except
under (some one's) protection; Ibn Masud stayed for a short time and
returned to Abyssinia."
Muhammad Ibn Umar said: "They had left (Makkah) in the month of Rajab
in the fifth year. There they remained in the months of Shaban and
Ramadan. The incident of prostration took place in Ramadan, and they
returned in Shawwal in the fifth year."
END OF IBN SA'D QUOTES
HAQ'S NOTES
page 237
1) Quran 53:1
2) Quran 53:19-20
page 238
1) Al-Quran,17:73-75.
IBN SA'D'S TIME SEQUENCE
First Hijrah to Abyssinia - pages 235, 236, 11 men, 4 women, month of
Rajab in fifth year after Muhammad claimed to be an apostle
The Blockade against Muhammad's tribe the Hashimites - page 241
Satanic Verses spoken by Muhammad - pages 236 - 239.
1st return to Mecca - pages 238 - 239
Second Hijrah to Abyssinia - pages 239
Return from Abyssinia just after Khaybar - page 240
FROM IBN ISHAQ'S "SIRAT RASULALLAH", translated as, "THE LIFE OF
MUHAMMAD" by A. Guillaume, page 165 - 167.
"(Tabari). Now the apostle was anxious for the welfare of his people,
wishing to attract them as far as he could. It has been mentioned that
he longed for a way to attract them, and the method he adopted is what
Ibn Hamid told me that Salama said M. B. Ishaq told him from Yazid b.
Ziyad of Medina from M. B. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the apostle saw what
his people turned their backs on him and he was pained by their
estrangement from what he brought them from God he longed that there
should come to him from God a message that would reconcile his people
to him. Because of his love for his people and his anxiety over them it
would delight him if the obstacle that made his task so difficult could
be removed; so that he meditated on the project and longed for it and
it was dear to him. Then God sent down "by the star when it sets your
comrade errs not and is not deceived, he speaks not from his own
desire," and when he reached His words "Have you thought of al-Lat and
al-Uzza and Manat the third, the other (5), Satan, when he was
mediating upon it, and desiring to bring it (sc. reconciliation) to his
people, put upon his tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq (1) whose
intercession is approved. (2)" When Quraysh heard that, they were
delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their
gods.and they listened to him; while the believers were holding that
what their prophet brought them from their Lord was true, not
suspecting a mistake or a vain desire or a slip, and when he reached
the prostration (3) and the end of the Sura in which he prostrated
himself the Muslims prostrated themselves when their prophet prostrated
confirming what he brought and obeying his command, and the polytheists
of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated when they heard
the mention of their gods, so that everyone in the mosque believer and
unbeliever prostrated, except al-Walid b. Al-Mughira who was an old man
who could not do so, so he took a handful of dirt from the valley and
bent over it. Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted
at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of
our gods in splendid fashion. He alleged in what he read that they are
the exalted Gharaniq whose intercession is approved."
The news reached the prophet's companions who were in Abyssinia, it
being reported that Quraysh had accepted Islam, so some men started to
return while others remained behind. Then Gabriel came to the apostle
and said, "What have you done Muhammad? You have read to these people
something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did
not say to you." The apostle was bitterly grieved and was greatly in
fear of God. So God sent down (a revelation), for He was merciful to
him, comforting him and making light of the affair and telling him that
every prophet and apostle before him desired as he desired and wanted
what he wanted and Satan interjected something into his desires as he
had on his tongue. So God annulled what Satan had suggested and God
established His verses i.e. you are just like the prophets and
apostles. The God sent down: "We have not sent a prophet or apostle
before you but when he longed Satan cast suggestions into his longing.
But God will annul what Satan has suggested. Then God will establish
his verses, God being knowing and wise. (4). Thus God relieved his
prophet's grief, and made him feel safe from his fears and annulled
what Satan had suggested in the words used above about their gods by
his revelation. "Are yours the males and His the females? That were
indeed an unfair division" (i.e. most unjust); "they are nothing but
names which your fathers gave them" as far as the words "to whom he
pleases and accepts" (5) i.e. how can the intercession of their gods
avail with Him?
When the annulment of what Satan had put upon the prophet's tongue came
from God, Quraysh said: "Muhammad has repented of what he said about
the position of your gods with Allah, altered it and brought something
else." Now those two words which Satan had put upon the apostle's
tongue were in the mouth of every polytheist and they became more
violently hostile to the Muslims and the apostle's followers. Meanwhile
those of his companions who had left Abyssinia when they heard that the
people of Mecca had accepted Islam when they prostrated themselves with
the apostle, heard when they approached Mecca that the report was false
and none came into the town without the promise of protection or
secretly. Of those who did come into Mecca and stayed there until he
migrated to Medina and were present at Badr with him was Uthman B.
Affan... with his wife Ruqayya d. of the apostle and Abu Hudhayfa b.
Zutba with his wife Sahla d. of Suhayl, and a number of others, in all
thirty-three men (1). ...
THE RETURN OF THOSE WHO HAD FLED TO ABYSSINIA
The apostle's companions who had gone to Abyssinia heard that the
Meccans had accepted Islamand they set out for the homeland. But when
they got near Mecca they learned that the report was false, so that
they entered the town under the protection of a citizen or by stealth.
GUILLAUME'S NOTES
Page 165
5) Sura 53: 1-20
Page 166
1) The word is said to mean "Numidian Cranes" which fly at a great
height.
2) Another reading is "turjada" "to be hoped for".
3) Mentioned in the last verse of the Sura.
4) Sura 22:51. The following verse is not without relevance in this
context: "that He may make what Satan suggested a temptation to those
whose hearts are diseased and hardened."
5) Sura 53:19-27
Page 167
1) A parallel tradition from M.b. Ka'd al-Qurazi and M.B. Qays is
given by Tabari 1195 - 6.
IBN ISHAQ'S TIMELINE
First Migration to Abyssinia - page 146
Boycott - page 159
Mo speaks Satanic Verses - page 165, 166
Muslims in Abyssinia return from Abyssinia - pages 167, 168
Annulling of the boycott - page 172
ADDITION INFORMATION FROM IBN ISHAQ FROM "NEW LIGHT ON THE LIFE OF
MUHAMMAD, pages 38, 39:
"The manuscript agrees with Salama's report from Ibn Ishaq that the
emigrants returned from Abyssinia because they heard of the conversion
of Quraysh in consequence of the concession to polytheism, but
strangely enough it does not quote the offending words. Presumable they
were deliberately omitted and readers must have known what they were
because otherwise the narrative would be unintelligible. Tow verses are
referred to, but the second is not quoted. In view of its interest I
give a translation of the manuscript:
"(The emigrants) remained where they were until they heard that the
people of Mecca had accepted Islam and prostrated themselves. That was
because the chapter of The Star (53) had been sent down to Muhammad and
the apostle recited it. Both Muslim and polytheist listened to it
silently until he reached his words "Have you seen (or, "considered")
al-Lat and al-Uzza?" They gave ear to him attentively while the
faithful believed (their prophet). Some apostatized when they heard the
"saj" of the Satan and said "By Allah we will serve them (the Gharaniq)
so that they may bring us near to Allah". The Satan taught these two
verses to every polytheist and their tongues too to them easily. This
weighed heavily upon the apostle until Gabriel came to him and
complained to him of these two verses and the effect that they had upon
the people. Gabriel declined responsibility for them and said "You
recited to the people something which I did not bring you from God and
you said what you were not told to say". The apostle was deeply grieved
and afraid. Then God send down by way of comfort to him: "Never did we
send an apostle or a prophet before you but when he wished Satan cast a
suggestion into his wish" as far as the words "Knowing, Wise"" (Sura
22:51)."
END OF QUOTES FROM "NEW LIGHT ON THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD".
WAKIDI'S WRITINGS ON THE SATANIC VERSES
W. Muir quotes Wakidi as writing:
"On a certain day, the chief men of Mecca, assembled in a group beside
the Kaaba, discussed as was their wont the affairs of the city; when
Mahomet appeared and, seating himself by them in a friendly manner,
began to recite in their hearing the 53 Sura.... "
"And see ye not Lat and Ozza, and Manat the third besides?"
"When he had reached this verse, the devil suggested an expression of
the thoughts which for many a day had possessed his soul; and put into
his mouth words of reconciliation and compromise, the revelation of
which he had been longing for from God, namely;
"These are the exalted Females, and verily their intercession is to be
hoped for"
"The Coreish were surprised and delighted with this acknowledgement of
their deities; and as Mahomet wound up the /Sura with the closing words
"Wherefore bow down before God, and serve Him"
"the whole assembly prostrated themselves with one accord on the ground
and worshipped. Walid alone, the son of Mughira, unable from the
infirmities of age to bow down, took a handful of earth and worshipped,
pressing it to his forehead."
"And all the people were pleased at that which Mahomet had spoke, and
they began to say,
"Now we know that it is the Lord alone that give life and takes it
away, that created and supports. These our goddesses make intercession
with Him for us; and as thou has conceded unto them a portion, we are
content to follow thee". But their words disquieted Mahomet, and he
retired to his house. In the evening Gabriel visited him; and the
prophet recited the Sura unto him. And Gabriel said, "What is this that
thou has done? Thou has repeated before the people words that I never
gave unto thee". So Mahomet grieved sore, and feared the Lord greatly;
and he said, "I have spoken of God that which He had not said." But the
Lord comforted His prophet, and restored his confidence, and cancelled
the verse, and revealed the true reading thereof (as it now stands),
namely,
"And see ye not Lat and Ozza, and Manat the third beside? What! Shall
there be male progeny unto you, and female unto him? That were indeed
an unjust partition! They are naught but names, which ye and your
Fathers have invented, etc."
END OF MUIR'S QUOTES FROM WAKIDI
DISCUSSION / REVIEW OF THE SIRA MATERIAL ON THE SATANIC VERSES.
All four of the biographies agree on all the primary facts:
1) Muhammad did not want to further offend the Meccans and he did not
want God to reveal something to him that would cause further offence.
2) Muhammad desired a revelation that would bring peace between he and
the Meccans.
3) When Muhammad began to recite the chapter called "The Star", Satan
interjected some words and thoughts into Muhammad's heart and mind.
This was coupled with Muhammad's own desires; thus Muhammad spoke
Satan's words.
4) Later, Gabriel rebuked Muhammad for having spoken Satan's words.
Muhammad admitted his sinful error and was then comforted by Allah.
The accounts are very similar. Each contains minor different details,
but all agree totally on the relevant essentials points; Muhammad spoke
the Satanic verses. The fact that all of the earliest Islamic sources
agree on the event is substantial evidence that it occurred.
EVIDENCE FROM SAHIH HADITH THAT MUHAMMAD SPOKE THE SATANIC VERSES
There are references to the event found in Bukhari. Although the actual
Satanic verses are not recorded by Bukhari, part of the event is
related:
6.385 Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The Prophet performed a prostration when he finished reciting Surat an-
Najm, and all the Muslims and pagans and Jinns and human beings
prostrated along with him.
What is of note here is that the Hadith states that after Muhammad
spoke "The Star", the pagans prostrated. This is exactly what the four
biographers state. Remember, the pagans were totally opposed to
Muhammad. They disliked him; he frequently insulted their faith. Yet
here, something Muhammad said, caused them to prostrate with him and
the Muslims, in "one accord". Muhammad had said something persuasive to
move them to bow in worship. Of course it was the Satanic verses. There
is no allusion to anything else in the biographical material. Neither
is anything specifically recorded in Sahih Hadith or the Quran that
refers to other than the Satanic Verses event.
Note again how this Hadith lines up with the four biographies.
FROM THE QURAN
There are three passages in the Quran that reference the event. These
passages are recorded in the biographical material. The first is the
actual passage found in chapter 53, called "The Star", (An-Najm),
verses 19 through 26 or so. This passage has already been mentioned.
The second passage is in chapter 22, called "The Pilgrimage", (Al-
Hajj), verses 52, 53:
"Never have We sent a single prophet or apostle before you with whose
wishes Satan did not tamper. But God abrogates the interjections of
Satan and confirms His own revelations. God is all-knowing and wise. He
makes Satan's interjections a temptation for those whose hearts are
diseased, whose hearts are hardened ...
The third passage is chapter 17, called "The Night Journey", (Al Isra),
verses 73 - 75:
"They sought to entice you from Our revelations - they nearly did -
hoping that you might invent some other scripture in Our name, and thus
become their trusted friend. Indeed had we not strengthened your faith,
you might have made some compromise with them and thus incurred a
double punishment in this life and in the next. Then you should have
found none to help you against Us."
All of these verses are mentioned in the biographical material. All of
them were revealed in relation to Muhammad speaking Satan's words.
Note how Tabari records Muhammad's admittance of sin and repentance
after Gabriel confronted him with his error. Afterwards, God supposedly
comforts Muhammad with the verses from chapters 17 and 22. Ibn Sa'd
records the same sequence of verses. After he admitted his sinful
error, Muhammad was comforted by Gabriel. Who was this Gabriel?
See the webpage below for more material dealing with Muhammad
interactions with "Gabriel" and Satan..
AN ISLAMIC SCHOLAR'S COMMENTARY (TAFSIR)
One of the greatest Islamic scholars who wrote a Tafsir was
Zamakhshari. He commented on this event as well.Here is his writings,
quoted from "The Quran and its Exegesis, by Helmut Gatje, pages 53 -
55, published by Oneworld, Oxford, England [10].
"The faithful rendering of the revelation Zamakhshari on Sura 22:52/51
We have never sent any messenger of prophet before thee, but that Satan
cast into his fancy, when he was fancying; but God annuls what Satan
casts, then God confirms His signs - surely God is All-knowing, All-
wise.
. The occasion of the sending down of the present verse is the
following: As the members of the tribe of the messenger of God turned
away from him and took their stand against him and his relatives also
opposed him and refused to be guided by what he brought to them, then,
as a result of the extreme exasperation concerning their estrangement
and as a result of the eager desire and longing that they be converted
to Islam, the messenger of God sheltered the wish that nothing would
come down to him that could make them shy away. Perhaps he should have
been able to use that for the purpose of converting them and causing
them to be dissuaded from their error and obstinacy. Now this wish
continued in him until the sura called "The Star" (that is, Sura 53)
came down. At that time he found himself with this wish in his heart
regarding the members of his tribe. Then he began to recite, and when
he came to God's words "and Manat, the third, the other" (Sura 53:20),
Satan substituted something in accordance with the wish which the
messenger of God had sheltered, that is, he whispered something to him
which would enable the messenger to announce his wish. In an
inadvertent and misleading manner, his tongue hurried on ahead of him,
so that he said: "These (goddesses are the) exalted cranes. Their
intercession (with God) is to be hoped for."...Yet, the messenger of
God was not clear at this point until the protection of God "isma"
reached him and he then became attentive again.
Some say that Gabriel drew his attention to it, or that Satan himself
spoke those words and brought them to the people's hearing. As soon as
the messenger of God prostrated (for prayer) as the end of the sura,
all who were present did it with him and felt pleased (that is, the
unbelievers felt pleased that their goddesses had been accepted as
intercessors with God).
OTHER COMMENTS
A) It must be pointed out again that the "Satanic Verses" event is not
something made up by non-Muslims. The event is recorded by the earliest
Islamic sources available on Muhammad's life. And these men were devout
Muslim scholars. They spent their lives studying, analyzing, and
writing about Muhammad and Islam. They were real Islamic scholars,
unlike today's amateur "Islamic scholars" like Ahmed Deedat and Jamal
Baidawi. Also, these sources provide chains of narration - isnaad,
showing that the event is traceable to the earliest Muslims.
Regarding these early Islamic scholars, William Muir writes in "The
Life of Muhammad" that:
"Pious Mussulmans of after days, scandalized at the lapse of their
prophet into so flagrant a concession to idolatry, would reject the
whole story. But the authorities are too strong to be impugned. It is
hardly possible to conceive how the tale, if not founded in truth,
could ever have been invented."
B) One of the terms Muhammad used to describe the pagan Goddesses -
Manat, Uzza and al-Lat was "gharaniq" translated as "high flying
cranes".
In "Muhammad and the Religion of Islam", by John Gilchrist, published
by Jesus to the Muslims, page 118, Gilchrist writes: [11]
"The Arabic word "gharaniq" refers to certain cranes which fly at a
great height. The pagan Meccans, impressed by the splendor of these
birds, therefore described their goddesses by an analogous reference to
them. When Muhammad quoted the very words used by the Meccans to exalt
their goddesses, they said to one another "Muhammad has spoken of our
gods in excellent fashion".
In the area there were cranes that flew at high altitudes. It was quite
logical for Muhammad to thus describe the idols as "high flying",
metaphorically flying in the heavens close to Allah - to act as
intercessors.
C) Another note of interest, Muhammad claimed that his Quran was above
human invention. He challenged anyone, including "jinn" to produce
something like the Quran. Well, we see that Satan was able to do so.
Gabriel had to confront Muhammad with the fact that those "Satanic
Verses" were not Allah's words. And note, all of the Muhammadans, i.e.,
Muhammad's followers, also prostrated when Muhammad prostrated. They
did not realize that a false Quran had been spoken. Obviously, this
"Quran" is not that special; even Satan was able to bring forth similar
material.
FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM'S COMPLAINTS AND DENIALS
As was stated at the beginning, many fundamentalist Muslims today are
embarrassed and ashamed that the man they follow was used by Satan to
speak Satan's words. It is understandable that Muhammadans are ashamed;
what kind of prophet speaks Satan's words?
I will examine several of their arguments against the occurrence of the
event. But note, there are numerous arguments and the scope of this
paper is not to address each and every one. Most of them are subjective
and lack substance; they are not worth the time of a reply.
One set of denials is put forth by a set of Muslim writers M S M
Saifullah, Qasim Iqbal, Jason Hannan, Mansur Ahmed & Muhammad Ghoniem.
Much of their work is copied from other Muslim's works. What follows
are some of their arguments.
Denial / Complaint #1
The fundamentalist Muslim usually complain about someone criticizing
their religion. And to cover the weakness of their position, they
personally attack Christians or others who put forth the criticism. So,
to start with, they complain about a Christians identifying Muhammad
with the Beast of Revelations 13. Here is their first complaint:
"The word Maometis means The number of the beast, i.e., 666, by which
Muhammad was known in the Middle Ages. The names Mahoun and Mahound
refer to Muhammad, imagined by credulous Europeans to be a pagan God.
These derogatory names were concocted by "love-thy- neighbor", "turn-
thy-cheek" Christians who maintained an open policy of defamation
against Islam and Muhammad throughout the Middle Ages. Apparently, this
policy still exists today, though in a more sophisticated apparatus."
Response #1
Shouldn't a false prophet be pointed out? If a man speaks Satan's words
as God's, shouldn't this be revealed? Further, Islam denies the
Sonship, Crucifixion, Messiahship, and death and resurrection of Jesus
Christ - shouldn't this be exposed? Additionally, didn't Muhammad order
that all Jews and Christians be driven out of the Hijaz, i.e. the land
where Muhammad lived? Didn't Muhammad have 800 males, some as young as
12 massacred? Didn't Muhammad allow the rape of female slaves? Didn't
Muhammad torture a man just to obtain money? Didn't Muhammad order the
deaths of female slaves for just mocking him? So then, to equate this
evil man with the "Beast" of Revelations is no stretch. Why it may
offend Muslims, I encourage all Muslims to take a deeper ook at the man
they follow. I encourage all sincere Muslims to re-examine a man upon
whom they are staking their eternity. I have examined Muhammad, and I
find him evil. I find him as the greatest false prophet in history.
So then, to equate this evil man with the "Beast" of Revelations is no
stretch. While it may offend Muslims, I encourage all Muslims to take a
deeper look at the man they follow. I encourage all sincere Muslims to
re-examine a man upon whom they are staking their eternity. I have
examined Muhammad, and I find him evil. I find him as the greatest
false prophet in history.
Denial / Complaint #2
Muslim fundamentalists try to make it seem that only one man
transmitted the event of the "Satanic Verses" spoken by Muhammad. They
write:
"This would not be difficult to understand, given the fact that the so-
called 'Satanic verses' were transmitted from al-Wāqidī to Ibn Sa'd.
Ibn Sa'd (d. 230/845), who was the secretary of al-Wāqidī (d. 207/823),
.
In other words, neither al-Wāqidī nor Ibn Sa'd were eye-witnesses to
the revelation of 'Satanic verses'; they were simply the
transmitters...Claiming that the issue of so-called 'Satanic verses'
incident is true just because al-Tabarī or Ibn Sa'd mentioned them
amounts to a deliberate distortion of the facts."
Response #2
No, it is not a deliberate distortion of the facts. First of all, the
story is transmitted by the four early biographers of Muhammad's life:
Ibn Ishaq, Wakidi, Ibn Sa'd, and Tabari. Ibn Sa'd did use Wakidi's
material, but he also was a scholar in his own right and did a great
deal of research. Didn't he write a 15 volume work on he early Muslims?
Ibn Sa'd was much more than just a mere copyist. Tabari used Ibn
Ishaq's material as well as Wakidi's, and others. But Tabari did not
simply write anything he came across. He too was more than a mere
copyist. Tabari was also one of the greatest scholars of Islam. He
wrote a 39 volume history mostly related to Islam, as well as a
thorough Commentary (Tafsir) on the Quran. Obviously Tabari thought
that the story had enough merit to be included in his writings.
Additionally, there is corroborative material in both the Sahih Hadith
and Quran supporting the story. Therefore, no facts are being
distorted. These men were reputable Islamic scholars. They rank among
the greatest in Islamic History. To say that the story is true based
upon what they wrote is no distortion.There is nothing in the Quran or
Hadith contradicting the story.
Denial / Complaint #3
Fundamentalist Muslims try to discredit the event by saying that the
verses in the Quran related to the event were revealed at a much later
date than the incident occurred. Here is their argument:
"The verses of Sūrah al-Isrā' (17:73-5) which were revealed, according
to the story, to 'admonish' the Prophet for allegedly reciting the
'Satanic' verses, in fact were not revealed until after the event of
the Mi'rāj. The Mi'rāj or the Ascent of the Prophet, according to
historical sources, occurred in the tenth or eleventh year of the
Prophetic call, i.e., two or three years before the Hijrah to Madinah.
If this is so, then it implies that the 'Satanic' verses were not
detected or for some reason no mention was made about the alleged
interpolation of the verses for five or six years and only afterwards
was the Prophet admonished for it. Can any sensible person believe that
the interpolation occurs today, while the admonition takes place six
years later and the abrogation of the interpolated verses is publicly
announced after nine years."
Response #3
This argument rests upon the chronological time of the revelation of
17:73 - 75. The early Muslim sources - Tabari and Ibn Sa'd, say these
verses were revealed around the time the Satanic verses were spoken by
Muhammad, not at the time of the Miraj.
Additionally, the Quran is haphazardly composed. Verses that Muhammad
spoke in Medina were mixed in with verses that he spoke in Mecca.
Frequently, Muhammad told that verses he spoke at one time were to be
recited with verses revealed at a much earlier time. To this date,
Islamic scholars have not been able to determine a unified
chronological sequence of the revelation of the Quran's chapters. While
there are certain portions that can be put in some logical sequence,
much of its chronology is indeterminate; the Quran is a hodgepodge of
verses that have been spliced together. So, to base an argument on the
supposed chronological order of the Quran is akin to building a house
upon sinking sand. It cannot stand.
This complaint / denial argument has also been defeated by John
Gilchrist in "Muhammad and the Religion of Islam". Let me quote from
page 120:
"The other argument is weak in that there is no concrete proof that the
first part of Surah 53 refers to the miraj which followed the
emigration to Abyssinia. As shown already, it almost certainly refers
to one of Muhammad's initial visions, limited by the Quran itself to
the two he had when his ministry began. Unfortunately one finds that
virtually all Muslim arguments of a factual nature against this story
are equally weak."
Gilchrist goes on to quote Bell on the composition of the Quranic
verses of 22:51-53:
"The surah has in fact become quite disjointed. Verses 51 - 53
addressed to the prophet personally, are quite out of connection.
(Bell, "The Quran Translated", Volume 1, page 316.)
Denial / Complaint #4
Some poor Muslim scholars or students have put together an argument
that rests upon the internal evidence of the chapter. Basically, they
link both the Satanic verses with their replacement verses. Here is
their argument:
"Let us now turn to some internal evidence. It has been said in the
story that the 'Satanic' interpolation occurred in Sūrah an-Najm
(53:19) which delighted the idolaters present in the Ka'bah and as a
gesture of friendship and good-will, they all bowed down with the
Prophet. In order to comment on the story it would seem necessary to
read the verses in the Qur'ān, adding the alleged 'Satanic' verses, and
find out what is actually meant to be conveyed here. It would read as
follows.
Have ye seen Lat and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat?
[These are the high-flying ones, whose intercession is to be hoped
for!] What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such
would be indeed a division most unfair! these are nothing but names
which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent
down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and
what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to
them Guidance from their Lord! [Qur'ān 53:19-23]
If one reads the bold part of the alleged Satanic verses quoted above,
one fails to understand how God on the one hand is praising the deities
and on the other hand discrediting them by using the subsequent phrases
quoted above. It is also difficult to see how the Quraysh leaders drew
the conclusion from this chapter that Muhammad as making a conciliatory
move and was adopting a policy of give and take.
Response #4
The Muslims who put together this argument did not bother to do their
homework. Otherwise they would have read in Tabari that the Satanic
verses were cancelled out by the critical verses of the goddesses. I
have previously posted this out of Tabari:
"Thus God removed the sorrow from his messenger, reassured him about
that which he had feared and cancelled the words which Satan had cast
on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes whose
intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed, following the
mention of "al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other," the words:
"Are yours the males and his the females? That indeed were an unfair
division! They are but names which you have named, you and your
fathers."
to the words: "to whom he wills and accept"".
Consequently, the entire Muslim argument here falls apart. The Satanic
verses were not initially revealed with the verses that cancel them.
Unfortunately, this type of slipshod work is the state of the art of
today's Islamic "scholarship".
Denial / Complaint #5
Muslims claim that if Muhammad's followers heard him allow the worship
of idols, they would have seen his hypocrisy and stop following him.
The argument is as follows:
"In the meantime the Muslims were supposedly asking Allat, Manat and
Uzza for intercession! Had the genuine state of affairs truly been this
ridiculous, it would have been impossible for Muhammad to have
maintained such a loyal following. It is obvious that Watt and other
Orientalists accept part of the story and reject the related parts
along with their destructive implications, apparently because they are
unable to find any link or sequence."
Response #5
Again, we have a case of today's Muslims not doing their homework. The
early sources state that Muhammad's followers listened to Muhammad
proclaim the worship of the deities and that they continued to follow
him, not suspecting any error on Muhammad's part. Again, here is a
quote from Tabari:
"When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and delighted at
the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him,
while the Muslims, having complete trust in their prophet in respect of
the messages which he brought from God, did not suspect him of error,
illusion, or mistake. When he came to the prostration, having completed
the surah, he prostrated himself and the Muslims did likewise,
following their prophet, trusting in the message which he had brought
and following his example. Those polytheists of the Quraysh and others
who were in the mosque (173) likewise prostrated themselves because of
the reference to their gods which they had heard, so that there was no
one in the mosque, believer or unbeliever, who did not prostrate
himself."
Denial / Complaint #6
Today's Muslims point out that there is no mention of the "Satanic
Verses" found in Sahih Hadith. Here is the Muslim position:
"Had there been any element of truth in the story, it could have caused
a great scandal against Islam and the Prophet and every detail of this
scandal must have found its place in the hadīth literature. Why is the
authentic hadīth collection conspicuously silent about the scandalous
part of the story? Does it not lead to the conclusion, contrary to the
established fact, that hadīth literature itself is very defective as it
failed to record such an important event which led the Prophet and his
Companions to read 'Satanic' verses for weeks, months or perhaps even
years without realizing the error, all the while asking for the
intercession of Lat, Manat and Uzza? In fact, al-Bukhārū, Muslim, Abū
Dāwūd, Nasā'ī and Ahmad b. Hanbal all record the story, but only to the
extent that was true. They all mention that the Prophet did recite
Sārah an-Najm and that, at the end when he prostrated, the idolaters
present were so overawed that they also joined him in prostration.
These leading Muhaddithūn do not mention the blasphemous story which
other sources have recorded. -
Response #6
It has been already established that Bukhari's Hadith does contain an
indirect reference to the event. Additionally, many other sources of
Hadith also record the event. Just because the Sahih Hadith do not
specifically mention it does not mean it never happened. The later
collectors of Hadith could have been embarrassed, as Ibn Hisham was,
and decided to leave the event out of their collections.
Another part of this Muslim argument says that the pagans were so
overawed when they heard "The Star" chapter, that they bowed in
prostration. However, these pagans had already heard Muhammad recite
much of the Quran, and they rejected it. Further, if they were
"overawed", why did the persecution against the Muslims grow
immediately worse? The evidence, i.e., the early Islamic sources tell
us that they prostrated themselves because Muhammad allowed their
worship. As the pagans told Muhammad:
"We recognize that it is God who gives life and death, who creates and
who provides sustenance, but if these gods of ours intercede for us
with him, and if you give them a share, we are with you."
CONCLUSIONS
The evidence proves that Muhammad spoke the Satanic verses. The four
early biographers of Muhammad's life detail the story. Many traditions
(Hadith) also establish it. There are references to it in the Sahih
Hadith. Finally, there is specific references to it in the Quran. No
one, with an open mind and honest heart, can doubt the event. It may
make Muslims uncomfortable that Satan used their prophet, but in the
least they should be forthright and honest about it and admit it to
themselves. If they wish to follow a man who spoke Satan's words, that
is their business.
Of course the ramifications are large. Muhammad had a strange
relationship with Satan. Was it really Gabriel choking Muhammad in the
cave?
How many other words were influenced by Satan? Why would God make light
of a prophet speaking Satan's words as God's? Didn't God command in the
Old Testament that false prophets should be put to death? Didn't Jesus
predict that false prophets would come and mislead many? (Ref. Matthew
24:11).
Muhammad had a deal with the devil. Satan led, he followed. If Muhammad
began to get off course, Muhammad was corrected. Islam's denial of
Christ's identity, is Satan's stronghold upon millions of people.
Muslims follow one of the false prophets Jesus foretold.
One Christian writer addressing this question asked:
"Muslims today who simply dismiss the account of these writers as
fabricated and unhistorical must at least answer the question why such
reputable persons would fabricate it. The question is not new. But, it
seems, a serious Muslim response is hard to find."
To this date, a serious Muslim response is still hard to find.
Silas at SILA...@aol.com
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BIBLIOGRAPHY
[1] "Holy Bible", New Revised Standard Version, published by Thomas
Nelson.
[2] "Sirat Un Nabi", page 214, by Allama Shibli Nu'mani, translated by
M. Tayyib Bakhsh Budayuni, Volume 1, published by Kazi Publications,
Lahore Pakistan.
3] "Tabari's History", pages 107 - 113, translated by W. M. Watt,
published by SUNY, N.Y., USA.
[4] "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir", pages 236 - 239, (Book of the Major
Classes), by Ibn Sa'd, translated by S. Moinul Haq, published by the
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[5] "The Life of Muhammad", pages 165 - 167, (translation / re-
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follow the Chinese,or maybe if I was in Belgium in 1939 I should gladly
follow Adolf Hitler as Germany had far more people in it than little
Belgium.
Follow your faith but please don't tell me how numbers mean right.
PLEASE go and pick up a movie called " Twelve Angry Men ".
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Judaism and Christianity already said prior to his arrival. I didn't know
the Big Honcho in the Sky was in retirement and that he needed messengers to
forward his mail.
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on the back of the neck and people start acting without senses or feelings.
Someone knows the name out there !
Don't worry about me going anywhere after I die. Its not up to what club you
have joined but rather what you have done to mankind and the Earth you are
planted on.
"Thou shall not kill"..........pretty simple. All the 3 Western religions
agree on the beginning of the Bible or Koran.
That means first, that Homicide bombings will NOT send You to The Wally
World up above!
Simplify Things and YOU will see the light !
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your god allah has taught you nothing, that which does not exist can not
teach.
Cthulhu
I do not need to belive, I've told you already, I am.