What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
by Aisha Brown
The three monotheistic religions � Judaism, Christianity, and Islam � all
purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme
Being, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Known as "tawhid" in
Islam, this concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a
Biblical passage known as the "Shema", or the Jewish creed of faith: "Hear,
O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." (Deuteronomy 6:4)
It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Jesus when
he said "...The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord
our God is one Lord." (Mark 12:29)
Muhammad came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message
again: "And your God is One God: there is no God but He..." (The Qur'an
2:163).
Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however,
into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth
century. This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both
within and outside the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the
Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God
is the union of three divine persons � the Father, the Son and the Holy
Spirit � in one divine being.
If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language
in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter:
"...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity... for there is one
Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all
one... they are not three gods, but one God... the whole three persons are
co-eternal and co-equal... he therefore that will be saved must thus think
of the Trinity..." (excerpts from the Athanasian Creed).
Let's put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father,
plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals
one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish?
It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine,
confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of
clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.
How did such a confusing doctrine get its start?
Trinity in the Bible
References in the Bible to a Trinity of divine beings are vague, at best.
In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach
to all nations. While this "Great Commission" does make mention of the three
persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase "...baptizing
them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" is
quite clearly an addition to Biblical text � that is, not the actual words
of Jesus � as can be seen by two factors:
1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was
done only in the name of Jesus; and
2) the "Great Commission" was found in the first gospel written, that of
Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost � see Mark 16:15.
The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the
Epistle of 1 John 5:7. Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted
that the phrase "... there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" is definitely a
"later addition" to Biblical text, and it is not found in any of today's
versions of the Bible.
It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings
was not an idea put forth by Jesus or any other prophet of God. This
doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely
man-made in origin.
The Doctrine Takes Shape
While Paul of Tarsus, the man who could rightfully be considered the true
founder of Christianity, did formulate many of its doctrines, that of the
Trinity was not among them. He did, however, lay the groundwork for such
when he put forth the idea of Jesus being a "divine Son". After all, a Son
does need a Father, and what about a vehicle for God's revelations to man?
In essence, Paul named the principal players, but it was the later Church
people who put the matter together.
Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third-century Church in Carthage,
was the first to use the word "Trinity" when he put forth the theory that
the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one
being of substance with the Father.
A Formal Doctrine Is Drawn Up
When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two
church men from Alexandria � Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop �
Emperor Constantine stepped into the fray.
Although Christian dogma was a complete mystery to him, he did realize that
a unified church was necessary for a strong kingdom. When negotiation failed
to settle the dispute, Constantine called for the first ecumenical council
in Church history in order to settle the matter once and for all.
Six weeks after the 300 bishops first gathered at Nicea in 325, the doctrine
of the Trinity was hammered out. The God of the Christians was now seen as
having three essences, or natures, in the form of the Father, the Son, and
the Holy Spirit.
The Church Puts Its Foot Down
The matter was far from settled, however, despite high hopes for such on the
part of Constantine. Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, a man named
Athanasius, began arguing over the matter even as the Nicene Creed was being
signed; "Arianism" became a catch-word from that time onward for anyone who
didn't hold to the doctrine of the Trinity.
It wasn't until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of
the Pope, the Nicene/Constantinople Creed was set as authoritative. Debate
on the matter was no longer tolerated; to speak out against the Trinity was
now considered blasphemy, and such earned stiff sentences that ranged from
mutilation to death. Christians now turned on Christians, maiming and
slaughtering thousands because of a difference of opinion.
Debate Continues
Brutal punishments and even death did not stop the controversy over the
doctrine of the Trinity, however, and the said controversy continues even
today.
The majority of Christians, when asked to explain this fundamental doctrine
of their faith, can offer nothing more than "I believe it because I was told
to do so." It is explained away as "mystery" � yet the Bible says in 1
Corinthians 14:33 that "... God is not the author of confusion ..."
The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of
Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a
result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of
Churches has refused their admittance. In Unitarianism, the hope is kept
alive that Christians will someday return to the preachings of Jesus: "...
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." (Luke
4:8)
Islam and the Matter of the Trinity
While Christianity may have a problem defining the essence of God, such is
not the case in Islam:
"They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is
no god except One God" (Qur'an 5:73).
It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name "Allah" as
the name of God.
Suzanne Haneef, in her book What Everyone Should Know About Islam and
Muslims (Library of Islam, 1985), puts the matter quite succinctly when she
says,
"But God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three
thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three
parts, He is assuredly not the Single, Unique, Indivisible Being which God
is and which Christianity professes to believe in." (pp. 183-184)
Looking at it from another angle, the Trinity designates God as being three
separate entities � the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If God is the
Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He
is His own Son. This is not exactly logical.
Christianity claims to be a monotheistic religion. Monotheism, however, has
as its fundamental belief that God is One; the Christian doctrine of the
Trinity � God being Three-in-One � is seen by Islam as a form of polytheism.
Christians don't revere just One God, they revere three.
This is a charge not taken lightly by Christians, however. They, in turn,
accuse the Muslims of not even knowing what the Trinity is, pointing out
that the Qur'an sets it up as Allah the Father, Jesus the Son, and Mary his
mother. While veneration of Mary has been a figment of the Catholic Church
since 431 when she was given the title "Mother of God" by the Council of
Ephesus, a closer examination of the verses in the Qur'an most often cited
by Christians in support of their accusation, shows that the designation of
Mary by the Qur'an as a "member" of the Trinity, is simply not true.
While the Qur'an does condemn both trinitarianism (the Qur'an 4:171; 5:73)
and the worship of Jesus and his mother Mary (the Qur'an 5:116), nowhere
does it identify the actual three components of the Christian Trinity. The
position of the Qur'an is that WHO or WHAT comprises this doctrine is not
important; what is important is that the very notion of a Trinity is an
affront against the concept of One God.
In conclusion, we see that the doctrine of the Trinity is a concept
conceived entirely by man; there is no sanction whatsoever from God to be
found regarding the matter simply because the whole idea of a Trinity of
divine beings has no place in monotheism. In the Qur'an, God's Final
Revelation to mankind, we find His stand quite clearly stated in a number of
eloquent passages,
"... your God is One God: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work
righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner."
(the Qur'an 18:110)
"... take not, with God, another object of worship, lest you should be
thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected." (the Qur'an 17:39)
� because, as God tells us over and over again in a Message that is echoed
throughout ALL His Revealed Scriptures,
"... I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other) ..."
(the Qur'an 21:92)
>The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of
>Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity.
Most Unitarians don't believe in God, period.
>It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name "Allah" as
>the name of God.
Wow, color me shocked that people translating the Bible into Arabic
would use the word "Allah" for "God"! Islam *must* be true! Think I'll
go out and fly a plane into a skyscraper!
Seriously, are you a fucking idiot?
I once heard tell that Unitarians address their prayers
"to whom it may concern".
Tell me something, you brain-dead moron: what part of "alt.ATHEISM"
do you not understand?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
>Who Invented The Trinity?
>What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
G-O-D!!!!!!!
The Dukester, American-American
*****
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Pope Paul VI
*****
Modern Unitarianism is a covenental religion not a dogmatic one (that
is, it's a religion based on a shared promise or agreement about how
to live, not shared beliefs about ultimate reality). In the 19th
century most Unitarians considered themselves Christians, although
most of their Christian neighbors did not agree. Nowadays, only 13% of
Unitarians self-identify as Christian, about half are some kind of
theist, and the rest are secular humanists.
Since 1961, the Unitarian and Universalist movements are joined in the
UUA (Unitarian-Universalist Association). It doesn't have much to do
with Christianity, but both branches used to. People who start from
Bible Christianity come to Unitarianism through their brains, and/or
Universalism through their hearts.
Unitarianism is the belief that God is one, and therefore Jesus was
not God. As the OP points out, the Bible does not support the idea of
the Trinity. Anyone who has the right information and an honest brain
stops being Athanasian/Trinitarian and becomes Arian/Unitarian.
Universalism is the belief that everyone goes to heaven. NO statements
about who goes to heaven have proper Bible support; the Bible
contradicts itself. Everybody picks a version that suits them, or one
that they were taught, and has to explain the others away.
- The Bible clearly states that you will saved by good works; that you
will be saved by faith alone; that you should give away all your
wealth to be saved; and other nonsense.
- People can't and don't make any sense of this, but some with good
hearts come to the conclusion that God is good and would not do things
that seem evil to good humans. Since it would be evil to create
someone and send them to eternal punishment, they convince themselves
that everyone is saved.
Not us here in ALT.ATHEISM, troll.
Now FOAD.
Olrik
>On May 17, 2:55�pm, Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In article <c0n015p41t19ob8s0jpqa73vfn96h9r...@4ax.com>,
>>
>> �raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:27:49 +0200, "Firnando"
>> > <geovani_the_ital...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of
>> > >Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity.
>>
>> > Most Unitarians don't believe in God, period.
>>
>> I once heard tell that Unitarians address their prayers
>> "to whom it may concern".
>
>Modern Unitarianism is a covenental religion not a dogmatic one (that
>is, it's a religion based on a shared promise or agreement about how
>to live, not shared beliefs about ultimate reality). In the 19th
>century most Unitarians considered themselves Christians, although
>most of their Christian neighbors did not agree. Nowadays, only 13% of
>Unitarians self-identify as Christian, about half are some kind of
>theist, and the rest are secular humanists.
In my local UU Church (of which I am a long-standing member) none are
Christians, and only a handful are even vaguely theistic. Most
self-classify as agnostic, atheist, or secular humanist.
What do they believe in?
Haahaahaahaahaahaa.
>On May 17, 2:55�pm, Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net> wrote:
Of course it does. That one's a lock.
>On Sun, 17 May 2009 13:24:57 -0700 (PDT), "Timothy 1:4a"
><canfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2:55�pm, Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> In article <c0n015p41t19ob8s0jpqa73vfn96h9r...@4ax.com>,
>>>
>>> �raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:27:49 +0200, "Firnando"
>>> > <geovani_the_ital...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > >The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of
>>> > >Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity.
>>>
>>> > Most Unitarians don't believe in God, period.
>>>
>>> I once heard tell that Unitarians address their prayers
>>> "to whom it may concern".
>>
>>Modern Unitarianism is a covenental religion not a dogmatic one (that
>>is, it's a religion based on a shared promise or agreement about how
>>to live, not shared beliefs about ultimate reality). In the 19th
>>century most Unitarians considered themselves Christians, although
>>most of their Christian neighbors did not agree. Nowadays, only 13% of
>>Unitarians self-identify as Christian, about half are some kind of
>>theist, and the rest are secular humanists.
>
>In my local UU Church (of which I am a long-standing member) none are
>Christians, and only a handful are even vaguely theistic. Most
>self-classify as agnostic, atheist, or secular humanist.
Then what's the use?
>Firnando wrote:
>> Who Invented The Trinity?
>
>Not us here in ALT.ATHEISM, troll.
Right, you are blood brothers with satan.
>Now FOAD.
>Olrik
As I'm an atheist myself, that's nice to hear :)
I understand that some Massachusetts congregations are pretty churchy;
but I also hear they're still good people.
Sorry, Dork. We don't believe in your 'satan' chara either.
PDW
M-A-N!!!!!!
You you ignorant Salad Bar Christian.
The Holy Trinity has existed for more than 14.5 billion years.
Considering you have no evidence that even '1' of your '1+1+1 = 1'
exists, that's a pretty wild ass assertion.
BTW, If Jesus was spun off for the sole purpose of bearing our sins and
then 'whacked' for his troubles, he/she/it couldn't have been around for
14+ billion years. Before Jesus it would be '1+1 = 1' then your gawd
got an itchy crotch and knocked up Mary with a spun off piece of that
'1' and here you are. I can see why you are so confused.
Christianity,
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie, who was his own father,
can make you live forever if symbolically eat his flesh and
telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can
remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity
because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake, to eat
from a magical tree.
to push away the Dominant Doctrine of the Arian Christian
Sect which
championed the Doctrine of 3 Separarte Christian Gods ,
God the Father which is separate and different from God the
Son ,
and separate and different from God the Ghost .
Arian Christian said Jesus Christ as a Child
could not have been a God ,
because Jesus Christ as a Human Baby was as
helpless as any other human babies at birth .
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>In article <e523159juurf22jae...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:33:59 -0400, WangoTango <asga...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <qgs015teofvpbvvq6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:27:49 +0200, "Firnando" <geovani_t...@yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Who Invented The Trinity?
>> >> >What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
>> >>
>> >> G-O-D!!!!!!!
>> >
>> >M-A-N!!!!!!
>> >You you ignorant Salad Bar Christian.
>>
>> The Holy Trinity has existed for more than 14.5 billion years.
>
>Considering you have no evidence that even '1' of your '1+1+1 = 1'
>exists, that's a pretty wild ass assertion.
Oh, I have plenty of evidence. You don't.
>BTW, If Jesus was spun off for the sole purpose of bearing our sins and
>then 'whacked' for his troubles, he/she/it couldn't have been around for
>14+ billion years.
Jesus is God become man.
> Before Jesus it would be '1+1 = 1' then your gawd
>got an itchy crotch and knocked up Mary with a spun off piece of that
>'1' and here you are. I can see why you are so confused.
But I can see why you are.
>Christianity,
>The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie, who was his own father,
>can make you live forever if symbolically eat his flesh and
>telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can
>remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity
>because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake, to eat
>from a magical tree.
Not even close.
>
> >BTW, If Jesus was spun off for the sole purpose of bearing our sins and
> >then 'whacked' for his troubles, he/she/it couldn't have been around for
> >14+ billion years.
>
> Jesus is God become man.
Yep, and talking in circles is normal for you.
>
> > Before Jesus it would be '1+1 = 1' then your gawd
> >got an itchy crotch and knocked up Mary with a spun off piece of that
> >'1' and here you are. I can see why you are so confused.
>
> But I can see why you are.
When you have to answer a question with circular logic, it is time to
rethink the whole thing.
>
> >Christianity,
> >The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie, who was his own father,
> >can make you live forever if symbolically eat his flesh and
> >telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can
> >remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity
> >because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake, to eat
> >from a magical tree.
>
> Not even close.
We've been through this before, buckwheat, and you have failed every
time.
>In article <hll51596r83g9ro91...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 18 May 2009 14:47:35 -0400, WangoTango <asga...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <e523159juurf22jae...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:33:59 -0400, WangoTango <asga...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <qgs015teofvpbvvq6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >> >@cox.net says...
>> >> >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:27:49 +0200, "Firnando" <geovani_t...@yahoo.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Who Invented The Trinity?
>> >> >> >What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> G-O-D!!!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >> >M-A-N!!!!!!
>> >> >You you ignorant Salad Bar Christian.
>> >>
>> >> The Holy Trinity has existed for more than 14.5 billion years.
>> >
>> >Considering you have no evidence that even '1' of your '1+1+1 = 1'
>> >exists, that's a pretty wild ass assertion.
>>
>> Oh, I have plenty of evidence. You don't.
>So, that's 3498 claims of special knowledge that I have heard over the
>last year. Claims are easy to make.
Yep, like there is no God.
>> Jesus is God become man.
>Yep, and talking in circles is normal for you.
You're no challenge.
>> > Before Jesus it would be '1+1 = 1' then your gawd
>> >got an itchy crotch and knocked up Mary with a spun off piece of that
>> >'1' and here you are. I can see why you are so confused.
>> But I can see why you are.
>When you have to answer a question with circular logic, it is time to
>rethink the whole thing.
Before God became man, it was 1+1+1=1. And you're never figure it out.
>> >Christianity,
>> >The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie, who was his own father,
>> >can make you live forever if symbolically eat his flesh and
>> >telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can
>> >remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity
>> >because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake, to eat
>> >from a magical tree.
>>
>> Not even close.
>We've been through this before, buckwheat, and you have failed every
>time.
You've never got it right yet.
>
> >> Jesus is God become man.
> >Yep, and talking in circles is normal for you.
>
> You're no challenge.
Says the Mobius man.....
>
> >> > Before Jesus it would be '1+1 = 1' then your gawd
> >> >got an itchy crotch and knocked up Mary with a spun off piece of that
> >> >'1' and here you are. I can see why you are so confused.
>
> >> But I can see why you are.
> >When you have to answer a question with circular logic, it is time to
> >rethink the whole thing.
>
> Before God became man, it was 1+1+1=1. And you're never figure it out.
No doubt about that. One can not 'figure' out nonsense.
>
> >> >Christianity,
> >> >The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie, who was his own father,
> >> >can make you live forever if symbolically eat his flesh and
> >> >telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can
> >> >remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity
> >> >because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake, to eat
> >> >from a magical tree.
> >>
> >> Not even close.
>
> >We've been through this before, buckwheat, and you have failed every
> >time.
>
> You've never got it right yet.
Then why can you never refute it?
J. Robert Oppenheimer, Robert Serber, and a cast of thousands.
http://www.waidev2.com/php/IMAGES/HC_TV_Program_Info/_78.jpg
Keep the ravings of your insipid desert bandit to yourselves. Keep
bothering the West with that crap, and you'll end up seeing one of
Trinity's decendents in person.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
A claim is a claim. Substantiate it.
>> >> > Before Jesus it would be '1+1 = 1' then your gawd
>> >> >got an itchy crotch and knocked up Mary with a spun off piece of that
>> >> >'1' and here you are. I can see why you are so confused.
>>
>> >> But I can see why you are.
>> >When you have to answer a question with circular logic, it is time to
>> >rethink the whole thing.
>> Before God became man, it was 1+1+1=1. And you're never figure it out.
>No doubt about that. One can not 'figure' out nonsense.
It's easy to hide like a coward you are.
>> >> >Christianity,
>> >> >The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie, who was his own father,
>> >> >can make you live forever if symbolically eat his flesh and
>> >> >telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can
>> >> >remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity
>> >> >because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake, to eat
>> >> >from a magical tree.
>> >>
>> >> Not even close.
>>
>> >We've been through this before, buckwheat, and you have failed every
>> >time.
>>
>> You've never got it right yet.
>Then why can you never refute it?
Your words are not even close to Christian belief. What's to be refuted?
No it is EXACTLY what you believe, it is just a tough pill to swallow
when it is distilled down to the basic tenets.
How was your piece of Jesus last Sunday?
Flesh crispy enough?
Was the blood of Christ tinged with just the right amount of guilt?
when the Bishop of Rome gave bribes to other Bishops
to kick away the Arian Christian Sect Doctrine ,.and to
suppress
the Nestorian Sect which ran away to Xian( Chang An ) China
in 500AD .
n May 19, 1:42 pm, Jesus Christ the Cunt Fucker
> ...
>
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Tertullian (160-220 C.E.)
The Council of Nicaea in 325 established is as orthodox doctrine in
the Nicene Creed
No one understood it then, no one can explain it now.
> What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
Confusion over Biblical language in which the relationship
between Jesus and God is expressed in familial terms..
Father, Son (and Spirit).
It is not surprising that the Trinity became doctrine,
just unfortunate.
There is One God, Judaism Christianity and Islam all confirm that view.
The 'Trinity' can only be 'understood' in terms of perspective:
In the Bible Jesus refers to God as Father, and is referred to as
Son of God and as Son of Man.
Jesus is not the only Biblical character to be referred to as Son of God.
The crucifixion scene makes clear that Jesus is not God, when he prays
TO GOD.
There is no need for God to Pray to God.
The resolution of the paradox which the Trinity attempts to
describe, but fails, is not complex, If you understand that
all language describing spiritual matters, is, by necessity, metaphor.
It is all a matter of prespective.. just as house may be represented by
a plan, a front elevation or a side elevation.. they are all very
different views, they are all the same house.
Rumi explained this centuries ago;
THE ONE TRUE LIGHT
Some Hindus bought an elephant, which they exhibited in a dark shed.
As seeing it was impossible, everyone felt it with the palm of his hand.
The hand of one fell on its trunk: he said "This animal is like a water
pipe".
Another touched its ear: to him the creature seemed like a fan.
Another handled its leg and described the elephant as having the shape
of a pillar.
Another stroked its back. "Truly", said he, "this elephant resembles a
throne".
Had each of them held a lighted candle
there would have been no contradiction in their words.
The lamps are different but the Light is the same: it comes from Beyond.
If thou keep looking at the lamp, thou art lost:
for there arises the appearance of number and plurality.
Fix thy gaze upon the Light,
and thou art delivered from the dualism inherent in the finite body.
O thou who art the Kernel of Existence,
the disagreement between Moslem, Zoroastrian and Jew depends upon the
standpoint.
- Jalal'u'Din Rumi
So, the Trinity actually tries to express 3 distinct PERSPECTIVES;
Viewed from man's perspective, Jesus embodies all the attributes of the
Divine, he is as close as we can get to perceiving God.. because he
manifests all the divine attributes (Love, Compassion, Mercy, Wisdom..
et al) In THAT sense, the Father is in Him.
Viewed from God's perspective, Jesus is human, the Son.
To understand the Holy Spirit you need to understand the reply Jesus
made when asked how could he be Messiah, if Elijah had not returned.
O.T prophecy says Elijah would return, and then Messiah would come.
Jesus told them that John the Baptist was the return of the same Spirit
that was in Elijah.
As the Qur'an confirms, the same Holy Spirit animated Adam, Abraham,
Moses, Jesus (first and second Advent), Mohammed , (the Maitreya Buddha
Zoroaster, and the Hidden Imam).
Hence Jesus' comment that He was "In the Beginning".
Same Spirit. Same God.
Different human Manifestations of God, Teachers,
in different epochs, as we evolve.
In this age of the maturity of Mankind, the childish squabbles
are coming to an end, and the recognition of Unity and Oneness
is gathering pace...
Critical in this change of consciousness was this;
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/0202795.jpg
..One Planet, One People.. no borders, all in the same boat;
This became clear and manifest about a century after it was declared
that it would;
�The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens,�
- Bah�'u'll�h (November 12, 1817 � May 29, 1892),
Ideas for the mature stage of human Civilisation...
---------
One World
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=vGz7qPJRhbo
---------
One Planet - One People
There is only ONE 'race', the Human Race:
"THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT, A LANDMARK FIVE-YEAR STUDY
CONDUCTED BY IBM AND NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EXPLORES
THE ROOTS OF HUMANITY
In the space of just a few thousand generations,
the linguistic, cultural and genetic diversity
of the human race has exploded. Scientists agree
that all humans share a common ancestry in Africa.
Much less well understood is how the human race
migrated out of Africa and became so diverse."
---------
At Vatican II, after 14 centuries of denying it,
The Christian Church admitted what Islam had told it,
...they both worship the ONE God!
The Church representing the largest number of Christians agrees:
# "DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH
# TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
#
# NOSTRA AETATE
#
# PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
# ...
# 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.
# They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself;
# merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5)
# who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to
# even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith
# of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."
Of course the Christian Bible has proclaimed the Unity of God for
millennia, long before there were Christians to argue over it;
"Hear oh Israel, the Lord thy God, the Lord is One!"
And Islam similarly proclaims it in the Muslim's daily
statement of faith in ONE GOD...
la illaha illa Allah
... based firmly on the Qur'an;
# "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# save with such of them as do wrong;
# and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# and revealed unto you;
# our God and your God is One,
# and unto Him we surrender."
#
# - The Qur'an Sura 29 verse 46
Parliament of the World's Religions
December 3-9, 2009 Melbourne, Australia
The Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions invites all people
of faith, spirit and goodwill to encounter the vast and rich diversity
of the world's religious and spiritual traditions, and to take part in
over 500 events including keynote addresses, seminars, conferences,
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will bring together more than 8,000 people from across the world,
including renowned spiritual, religious and political leaders.
"The theme of the 2009 Parliament underscores the opportunity for
religious and spiritual communites and all people to act on
environmental concerns and take responsibility for cultivating awareness
of our global interconnectedness. Key topics of global concern will be
addressed from religious and spiritual perspectives. These include:
* Healing the Earth with Care and Concern
* Reconciling with Indigenous Peoples
* Overcoming Poverty in a Patriarchal World
* Securing Food and Water for all People
* Building Peace in the Pursuit of Justice
* Creating Social Cohesion in Village and City
* Sharing Wisdom in the Search for Inner Peace
http://www.parliamentofreligions2009.org/email/email1.htm
Shalom and Salaam
> by Aisha Brown
>
> The three monotheistic religions � Judaism, Christianity, and Islam � all
> purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme
> Being, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Known as "tawhid" in
> Islam, this concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a
> Biblical passage known as the "Shema", or the Jewish creed of faith: "Hear,
> O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." (Deuteronomy 6:4)
>
> It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Jesus when
> he said "...The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord
> our God is one Lord." (Mark 12:29)
>
> Muhammad came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message
> again: "And your God is One God: there is no God but He..." (The Qur'an
> 2:163).
>
> Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however,
> into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth
> century. This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both
> within and outside the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the
> Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God
> is the union of three divine persons � the Father, the Son and the Holy
> Spirit � in one divine being.
>
> If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language
> in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter:
>
> "...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity... for there is one
> Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all
> one... they are not three gods, but one God... the whole three persons are
> co-eternal and co-equal... he therefore that will be saved must thus think
> of the Trinity..." (excerpts from the Athanasian Creed).
>
> Let's put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father,
> plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals
> one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish?
>
> It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine,
> confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of
> clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.
>
> How did such a confusing doctrine get its start?
>
> Trinity in the Bible
>
> References in the Bible to a Trinity of divine beings are vague, at best.
>
> In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach
> to all nations. While this "Great Commission" does make mention of the three
> persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase "...baptizing
> them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" is
> quite clearly an addition to Biblical text � that is, not the actual words
> of Jesus � as can be seen by two factors:
>
> 1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was
> done only in the name of Jesus; and
>
> 2) the "Great Commission" was found in the first gospel written, that of
> Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost � see Mark 16:15.
>
> The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the
> Epistle of 1 John 5:7. Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted
> that the phrase "... there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
> the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" is definitely a
> "later addition" to Biblical text, and it is not found in any of today's
> versions of the Bible.
>
> It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings
> was not an idea put forth by Jesus or any other prophet of God. This
> doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely
> man-made in origin.
>
> The Doctrine Takes Shape
>
> While Paul of Tarsus, the man who could rightfully be considered the true
> founder of Christianity, did formulate many of its doctrines, that of the
> Trinity was not among them. He did, however, lay the groundwork for such
> when he put forth the idea of Jesus being a "divine Son". After all, a Son
> does need a Father, and what about a vehicle for God's revelations to man?
> In essence, Paul named the principal players, but it was the later Church
> people who put the matter together.
>
> Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third-century Church in Carthage,
> was the first to use the word "Trinity" when he put forth the theory that
> the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one
> being of substance with the Father.
>
> A Formal Doctrine Is Drawn Up
>
> When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two
> church men from Alexandria � Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop �
> to do so." It is explained away as "mystery" � yet the Bible says in 1
> Corinthians 14:33 that "... God is not the author of confusion ..."
>
> The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of
> Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a
> result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of
> Churches has refused their admittance. In Unitarianism, the hope is kept
> alive that Christians will someday return to the preachings of Jesus: "...
> Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." (Luke
> 4:8)
>
> Islam and the Matter of the Trinity
>
> While Christianity may have a problem defining the essence of God, such is
> not the case in Islam:
>
> "They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is
> no god except One God" (Qur'an 5:73).
>
> It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name "Allah" as
> the name of God.
>
> Suzanne Haneef, in her book What Everyone Should Know About Islam and
> Muslims (Library of Islam, 1985), puts the matter quite succinctly when she
> says,
>
> "But God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three
> thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three
> parts, He is assuredly not the Single, Unique, Indivisible Being which God
> is and which Christianity professes to believe in." (pp. 183-184)
>
> Looking at it from another angle, the Trinity designates God as being three
> separate entities � the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If God is the
> Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He
> is His own Son. This is not exactly logical.
>
> Christianity claims to be a monotheistic religion. Monotheism, however, has
> as its fundamental belief that God is One; the Christian doctrine of the
> Trinity � God being Three-in-One � is seen by Islam as a form of polytheism.
> Christians don't revere just One God, they revere three.
>
> This is a charge not taken lightly by Christians, however. They, in turn,
> accuse the Muslims of not even knowing what the Trinity is, pointing out
> that the Qur'an sets it up as Allah the Father, Jesus the Son, and Mary his
> mother. While veneration of Mary has been a figment of the Catholic Church
> since 431 when she was given the title "Mother of God" by the Council of
> Ephesus, a closer examination of the verses in the Qur'an most often cited
> by Christians in support of their accusation, shows that the designation of
> Mary by the Qur'an as a "member" of the Trinity, is simply not true.
>
> While the Qur'an does condemn both trinitarianism (the Qur'an 4:171; 5:73)
> and the worship of Jesus and his mother Mary (the Qur'an 5:116), nowhere
> does it identify the actual three components of the Christian Trinity. The
> position of the Qur'an is that WHO or WHAT comprises this doctrine is not
> important; what is important is that the very notion of a Trinity is an
> affront against the concept of One God.
>
> In conclusion, we see that the doctrine of the Trinity is a concept
> conceived entirely by man; there is no sanction whatsoever from God to be
> found regarding the matter simply because the whole idea of a Trinity of
> divine beings has no place in monotheism. In the Qur'an, God's Final
> Revelation to mankind, we find His stand quite clearly stated in a number of
> eloquent passages,
>
> "... your God is One God: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work
> righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner."
> (the Qur'an 18:110)
>
> "... take not, with God, another object of worship, lest you should be
> thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected." (the Qur'an 17:39)
>
> � because, as God tells us over and over again in a Message that is echoed
> throughout ALL His Revealed Scriptures,
>
> "... I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other) ..."
> (the Qur'an 21:92)
>
> http://www.iiie.net/node/36
>
>
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>There is One God
Got any evidence that there's even that many?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
See, you have no idea at all what Christian belief is.
>How was your piece of Jesus last Sunday?
>Flesh crispy enough?
>Was the blood of Christ tinged with just the right amount of guilt?
He fed me spiritually.
BWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!
Once in a while, stupid troll, you have a funny line!
Now FOAD.
Olrik
>
> >How was your piece of Jesus last Sunday?
> >Flesh crispy enough?
> >Was the blood of Christ tinged with just the right amount of guilt?
>
> He fed me spiritually.
Did they hand out after cannibalism mints?
> Firnando wrote:
> > Who Invented The Trinity?
>
> Tertullian (160-220 C.E.)
If your alleged Trinity did not "invent" itself, then the whole thing is
a swindle.
God and I are glad you enjoyed it. But you lack the faculties to understand.
Like I said, you have no idea what Christinity is.
>> >How was your piece of Jesus last Sunday?
>> >Flesh crispy enough?
>> >Was the blood of Christ tinged with just the right amount of guilt?
>> He fed me spiritually.
>Did they hand out after cannibalism mints?
Mints would be a negative.
Duke, don't we already have enough people telling us how God feels
about things?
New statements require new comments.
Happy to hear from you any time, just don't think you should also give
us God's opinion :)
I understand perfectly : you are a troll with no soul. If you were a
real xian, you'd know that most of what you "write" is blasphemous and
sinful.
Olrik
He told us to go forward and teach his good news.
Except that it's the word of God.
But He did not tell you He was glad that Olrik enjoyed your funny line
- that's all I was referring to.
He told you to do a lot of things. Are you doing the others? Do you
turn the other cheek when someone hits you? If someone invades your
country, do you welcome them in and carry their luggage? Have you
given away all your possessions?
After you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can look after
the specks in our eyes.
Oh, ok.
>He told you to do a lot of things. Are you doing the others? Do you
>turn the other cheek when someone hits you? If someone invades your
>country, do you welcome them in and carry their luggage? Have you
>given away all your possessions?
Yes I hope, no, no, and no. Gee, that was easy.
>After you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can look after
>the specks in our eyes.
God told me not to look back but to go forward in his service.
Christianity is easy when you treat it as a smorgasbord, but it's not
supposed to be easy. Your first answer should be No, to match the list
of No's that you gave in answer to Jesus' instructions in the
gospels.
> >After you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can look after
> >the specks in our eyes.
>
> God told me not to look back but to go forward in his service.
Actually I don't recognize that reference. But whatever else He told
you, I expect you to recognize the beam/speck reference.
The problem is that you want the luxury of calling yourself a
Christian, without doing the things Jesus told you to do.
>> Oh, ok.
Well, man is imperfect and a sinner by definition. Heb 4:15. I try to guide my
life according to God's way, but even I know that I'm not successful. No man
can succeed, but we must try.
Regarding the other three, they are not absolute "must do's". The bible is not
a handbook of actions, but a guide. The entirety of the bible must be taken
into consideration to understand God's instructions to us. God does not tell us
that we must let ourselves be walked over. Turning the other cheek is a
statement re the changing from the oldest law of tit for tat, an eye for an eye,
a tooth for a tooth to one of mercy.
>> >After you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can look after
>> >the specks in our eyes.
>> God told me not to look back but to go forward in his service.
>Actually I don't recognize that reference. But whatever else He told
>you, I expect you to recognize the beam/speck reference.
And I expect you to recognize the Lex Talionis, tit for tat or an eye for an
eye, in the elimination of vengence.
>The problem is that you want the luxury of calling yourself a
>Christian, without doing the things Jesus told you to do.
One must understand what he told us before we can understand what we are to do.
True
> and a sinner by definition.
This is a problem with the definition of sin, not a problem with man.
> Heb 4:15. I try to guide my
> life according to God's way, but even I know that I'm not successful. No man
> can succeed, but we must try.
>
> Regarding the other three, they are not absolute "must do's". The bible is not
> a handbook of actions, but a guide. The entirety of the bible must be taken
> into consideration to understand God's instructions to us.
Which is why there are hundreds of versions of Christianity, and not
just on small points. Some require poverty (remembering not only Mat
19:21 but also Acts 5) and some see wealth as a sign of God's favor.
Some require pacifism (Jesus was crystal clear on this point) and some
fight wars in the name of Jesus. Some are saved by acts, some think
it's fine to ignore everything that Jesus ever said about how to live
life - like he walked around preaching for 3 years just because he
liked the sound of his own voice.
99.99% of Bible-reading Christians do not do what the Bible tells them
to do. First they consult their inner moral compass, such as it is,
and decide what they want to do. Then they rationalize their way into
believing that is what the Bible says - an easy task, since the Bible
contradicts itself on every important point and therefore needs
interpretation to make any sense at all.
> God does not tell us
> that we must let ourselves be walked over.
I believe he did, and very clearly, but of course that's just my
interpretation.
> Turning the other cheek is a
> statement re the changing from the oldest law of tit for tat, an eye for an eye,
> a tooth for a tooth to one of mercy.
>
> >> >After you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can look after
> >> >the specks in our eyes.
> >> God told me not to look back but to go forward in his service.
> >Actually I don't recognize that reference. But whatever else He told
> >you, I expect you to recognize the beam/speck reference.
>
> And I expect you to recognize the Lex Talionis, tit for tat or an eye for an
> eye, in the elimination of vengence.
I know where that is in the Bible, but I still don't recognize "not to
look back but to go forward in his service." Unless you're talking
about Mat 19:29 where he explains how great it is to desert your wife
and children to find Jesus -- as many saints like Saint Augustine have
done.
But we can let it drop. There's probably something along those lines,
and it makes no difference to me if there is or isn't.
> >The problem is that you want the luxury of calling yourself a
> >Christian, without doing the things Jesus told you to do.
>
> One must understand what he told us before we can understand what we are to do.
And that's never going to happen.
Then, by definition, it's a problem with man.
>> Heb 4:15. �I try to guide my
>> life according to God's way, but even I know that I'm not successful. �No man
>> can succeed, but we must try. �
>>
>> Regarding the other three, they are not absolute "must do's". �The bible is not
>> a handbook of actions, but a guide. � The entirety of the bible must be taken
>> into consideration to understand God's instructions to us. �
>Which is why there are hundreds of versions of Christianity, and not
>just on small points.
But only one bible, and all "versions" profess Jesus is Lord. So the "version"
is man's desire to accept this verse and reject that verse.
> Some require poverty (remembering not only Mat
>19:21 but also Acts 5) and some see wealth as a sign of God's favor.
>Some require pacifism (Jesus was crystal clear on this point) and some
>fight wars in the name of Jesus. Some are saved by acts, some think
>it's fine to ignore everything that Jesus ever said about how to live
>life - like he walked around preaching for 3 years just because he
>liked the sound of his own voice.
>99.99% of Bible-reading Christians do not do what the Bible tells them
>to do. First they consult their inner moral compass, such as it is,
>and decide what they want to do. Then they rationalize their way into
>believing that is what the Bible says - an easy task, since the Bible
>contradicts itself on every important point and therefore needs
>interpretation to make any sense at all.
Their inner moral conscience is compliments of the human soul from God.
>> God does not tell us
>> that we must let ourselves be walked over. �
>I believe he did, and very clearly, but of course that's just my
>interpretation.
Nope, you're just reflecting your own version of Christianity.
>> Turning the other cheek is a
>> statement re the changing from the oldest law of tit for tat, an eye for an eye,
>> a tooth for a tooth to one of mercy.
>> >> >After you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can look after
>> >> >the specks in our eyes.
>> >> God told me not to look back but to go forward in his service.
>> >Actually I don't recognize that reference. But whatever else He told
>> >you, I expect you to recognize the beam/speck reference.
>> And I expect you to recognize the Lex Talionis, tit for tat or an eye for an
>> eye, in the elimination of vengence.
>I know where that is in the Bible, but I still don't recognize "not to
>look back but to go forward in his service." Unless you're talking
>about Mat 19:29 where he explains how great it is to desert your wife
>and children to find Jesus -- as many saints like Saint Augustine have
>done.
Oh, ok. It's call discipleship.
Luke 9:59-62 (New International Version)
59He said to another man, "Follow me."
But the man replied, "Lord, first let me go and bury my father."
60Jesus said to him, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim
the kingdom of God."
61 Still another said, "I will follow you, Lord; but first let me go back and
say good-by to my family."
62Jesus replied, "No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit
for service in the kingdom of God."
It's a reference to one's inability to let go of the past.
>But we can let it drop. There's probably something along those lines,
>and it makes no difference to me if there is or isn't.
>> >The problem is that you want the luxury of calling yourself a
>> >Christian, without doing the things Jesus told you to do.
>> One must understand what he told us before we can understand what we are to do.
>And that's never going to happen.
There are many, many writings from the time period.
http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html
Few shook hands with jesus, but that doesn't change the facts that the writings
reflect Christianity as it existed in the early days. That's essentially what
the Gospels are - not 1:1 accounts but the acts, words and religious practices
of the early Christian people.
Of course, there's the new command given by Christ.
John 13:34 (New International Version)
34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must
love one another.
And that's what we are called to do.
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mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
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helpi...@gmail.com
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arah...@gmail.com
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sanh...@sanha.org.za
sanh...@sanha.org.za
help...@sanha.org.za
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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Who cares now
Israel has destroyed itself and all western countries and
christianity is closing
Islam grows by over 100,000 every day
Nothingcan now stop Islam from replacingChristianity and judaism once
this generation dies out
kanga
======
Australia' tourism bid a failure: Tollner
Posted Sat Jul 4, 2009 1:00pm AEST
* Map: Darwin 0800
The Northern Territory Opposition tourism spokesman says the latest
tourism figures show the Government has failed in its bid to attract
national and international tourists.
The Australian Bureau of Statistics figures for the March quarter show
a fall in occupancy rates in hotels, motels and serviced apartments
across the Territory.
Dave Tollner says the new statistics show the Government's hope for
the movie Australia to attract overseas tourists has failed.
"The Government put significant funds into advertising campaigns
around the movie Australia, which subsequently flopped," he said.
"And in other areas they've also failed. For instance, we've heard
nothing from the Tell 20 campaign. People aren't visiting."
The statistics show NT following a national trend, but Mr Tollner says
the Government has not listened to advice that it needs to refocus its
marketing campaigns.
"I think the Territory Government's marketing campaigns have failed,"
he said.
"I warned the Territory Government about it at the start of the year.
"They said they were immune to the global financial crisis and not to
worry. The fact is these figures show that we aren't immune from it
and that the marketing efforts have failed."
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time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
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sanh...@sanha.org.za
sanh...@sanha.org.za
help...@sanha.org.za
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furti...@gmail.com
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Vera "Mirelle" Perks
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ISP - Telus Communications
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fa...@telkomsa.net
fes...@wn.apc.org
jam...@islamsa.org.za
ds...@mweb.co.za
jami...@lantic.co.za
sanh...@sanha.org.za
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help...@sanha.org.za
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
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Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.co.za
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
Achmat.S...@gmail.com
fa...@telkomsa.net
ipc...@yebo.co.za
politic...@googlegroups.com
jam...@islamsa.org.za
ds...@mweb.co.za
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
jami...@lantic.co.za
sanh...@sanha.org.za
sanh...@sanha.org.za
sanh...@sanha.org.za
help...@sanha.org.za
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
niy...@hotmail.com
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** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
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Fastlink, Jordan
Vera "Mirelle" Perks
609 Turner St
Silverton, BC
V0G2B0
Phone 250-358-2727
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
ISP - Telus Communications
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Well, there is a dumbass born every second and how many years does it
take before he blows himself up in the name of his god......
I fail to see how wishing the end of civilization is good.
If you're tired of your computer, or electricity, or modern medicine,
just stop using them.
Olrik
> kanga
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mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
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Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.co.za
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
Achmat.S...@gmail.com
fa...@telkomsa.net
ipc...@yebo.co.za
politic...@googlegroups.com
jam...@islamsa.org.za
ds...@mweb.co.za
nan...@nanima.co.za
nan...@webmail.co.za
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Many people on the internet are watching the killings of US military
personnel in western Iraq's border region, and are taking note of how
the killings only benefit the Israeli program to take the war into
Syria. This article here is a very good primer on how this is
happening.
However, many naive and well-intentioned folks say that it is insane
to believe that Israel would kill US military personnel.
After all, these folks believe the Zionist propaganda about how Israel
is a best friend of the United States.
For these people, the best thing to do is to look back in time and
study the historical record of Israel's attack on the USS Liberty, to
realize that Israel has no qualms about killing US military
personnel.
USS Liberty Massacre
On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked the USS Liberty in international
waters. The Israelis killed 34 sailors and injured 172 more in a
particularly heinous attack that involved intense aerial strafing,
torpedo boats, and napalm from Israeli jets.
Miraculously, the Israelis did not sink the Liberty, and the Israeli
treachery has been exposed.
Israel's objective with the Liberty attack, had it went off
successfully for Tel Aviv, was to blame the attack on Egypt, so that
the United States would jump into the Six Day War on the side of the
Israelis.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For further study on how the killings of US troops in western Iraq
point to an Israeli intelligence false-flag provocation program,
designed to enrage the United States to attack Syria, one should study
the articles linked below.
http://judicial-inc.biz/Israel_in_Iraq.htm
http://judicial-inc.biz/Snipers_ambush.htm
Sasha Cohen (Ali G) to moslem terrorist "Your King Osama looks like a
dirty wizard or a homeless Santa Claus." -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_RaMJ3oc8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2F
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
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fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
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fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
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politic...@googlegroups.com
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islamwa...@googlegroups.com
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nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent, QC
h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ------- 이슬람의 성기를 빨
아 당나귀 - - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
So , did she get her death wish? - clean shaven well hung US marine in
the after-life? - Re: BREAKING NEWS - Moslem female suicide bomber
kills 9 moslems in Iraq - The official said the woman, covered in a
traditional black garment known as an abaya, blew herself up near a
security checkpoint outside the courthouse. -
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/08/iraq.main/index.html -
Keep up the good work shitskin mohammadans - - الإسلام تمالإسلام يأخذ
الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent, QC
h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ------- 이슬람의 성기를 빨
아 당나귀 - - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Vera "Mirelle" Perks
609 Turner St
Silverton, BC
V0G2B0
Phone 250-358-2727
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
ISP - Telus Communications
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
>kangarooistan wrote:
>>
>> Israel has destroyed itself and all western countries and
>> christianity is closing
>>
>> Islam grows by over 100,000 every day
>>
>> Nothingcan now stop Islam from replacingChristianity and judaism once
>> this generation dies out
>
>I fail to see how wishing the end of civilization is good.
>
>If you're tired of your computer, or electricity, or modern medicine,
>just stop using them.
>
>Olrik
Because he's a hypocrite like other religion believers.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Skitskin moslem CA Fabian, 5 Pfeiffer Close, Mt Barker, 5251, South
Australia, +61 8 8391 1292
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
Wassim Noujeim, abusing this service :- Canada, Saint-laurent, QC
h4t1e3, Cote De Liesse Hotels, Bell Canada ------- 이슬람의 성기를 빨
아 당나귀 - - الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddzpvj98_0xpck3bg4&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
> Who Invented The Trinity?
> What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
> by Aisha Brown
> The three monotheistic religions � Judaism, Christianity, and Islam � all
> purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme
This "our lie is better than their lie" stuff is pretty lame.
The writings of all three religions reveal that the god which Abra(ha)m
invented is a petty, vindictive, insecure, hostile, bitter, short-sight,
pathetic, ethical moron. Only someone seriously lacking in moral sense
could read the scriptures and still think the character described in them is
worthy of worship.
--
Lars Eighner *Atheist #1965* use...@larseighner.com <http://larseighner.com/>
240 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
I don't know why they keep asking this question..I've told them
multiple times that Oppenheimer & Co. invented the Trinity.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Trinity.html
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
Islam and Judism say their god is the god of Abraham and is a single entity.
They deny the concept of a trinity in all it's forms and in particular deny
the "majority view" that there are three separate gods which/who/whatever is
one god.
Probably the egyptians. The christians adopted it without any real
understanding why the egyptians used the idea. It made sense in the
egyptian religion, it is nonsense in christianity.
>
>> What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?
>
>> by Aisha Brown
>
>> The three monotheistic religions ? Judaism, Christianity, and Islam ? all
>> purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme
>
> This "our lie is better than their lie" stuff is pretty lame.
>
> The writings of all three religions reveal that the god which Abra(ha)m
> invented is a petty, vindictive, insecure, hostile, bitter, short-sight,
> pathetic, ethical moron. Only someone seriously lacking in moral sense
> could read the scriptures and still think the character described in them is
> worthy of worship.
>
--
Individuals mutate, populations evolve.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Vera "Mirelle" Perks
609 Turner St
Silverton, BC
V0G2B0
Phone 250-358-2727
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
ISP - Telus Communications
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› Did you know? - bestiality is entrenched in the mozlim
cult - even the false profit mohammed had his harem of favourite goats
and camels. ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› __
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الش
Vera "Mirelle" Perks
609 Turner St
Silverton, BC
V0G2B0
Phone 250-358-2727
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
ISP - Telus Communications
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
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,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
Jordan Data Communication Ltd.
http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› Did you know? - bestiality is entrenched in the mozlim
cult - even the false profit mohammed had his harem of favourite goats
and camels. ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› __
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الش
mehya...@hotmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
Jordan Data Communication Ltd.