Rep. King's Congressional Hearings on Islamic Radicalization / S D Rodrian
Aardvark
of National Socialism (Nazism) I am sure most
Nazis would want to short-circuit them before
they even got started: Nazis know full well
that nothing good for them could possibly come
out of any objective focus on Nazism.
And in the same manner Muslims know full well
that there is about as much chance of anything
coming out of any objective focus on Islam that
will make them look good as there is about any
objective focus on Nazism making Hitler come
out looking like the Prophet of Good (because,
let's face it: objectively, there is about as much
good in Islam as there is in National Socialism).
Islam, like the Nazism most 1930s imams embraced
as a kindred philosophy, is all about world conquest
and the complete domination of the human race.
SIRS: http://islamisbad.com
The ONLY place that spouts the good of National
Socialism is a NAZI propaganda outlet, just as
the ONLY place that spouts anything good about
Islam is a Muslim propaganda outlet (and their
amazingly suicidal Western enablers). And the
Muslims who are protesting King's hearings know
this perfectly well.
And please don't confuse the mindless butchery
in Oklahoma City, Waco, or Phoenix with the
jihadic genocide Muslims have unleashed
upon the world: Those murderers Oklahoma
City, Waco, Phoenix, etc., were mentally
damaged persons in some way or other, and
had no purpose or reason for their crimes
outside their demented skulls. Those insane
murders advanced no cause, and had no
reason for taking place other than some mental
aberration in the minds of the sick, sick, sick
perpetrators. (Which isn't always acknowledged
by the law.)
The ongoing butchery that Islam promotes, and
has been promoting in the world since before
the death of Mohammed in the year 615 AD, on
the other hand, is part of a neverending jihad
determined either to turn the world into Muslims
or butcher those who refuse to become Muslims.
It makes no sense to look into the reasons for
Oklahoma City, Waco, or Phoenix outside of a
purely psychological interest. On the other hand,
it makes perfect sense to look into the ongoing
Islamic world-wide jihad against non-Muslims
in the interest of possibly saving either our
culture and civilization, or our very lives.
S D Rodrian
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Zogby: "Islamophobia and those who promote it are a greater threat to
the United States of America than Anwar al-Awlaqi and his ragtag team
of terrorists"
"Islamophobia can create radicalisation," says Zogby. No, Einstein,
"radicalization" creates "Islamophobia." In other words, the only
reason why any non-Muslim looks critically at Islam at all is because
Muslims keep performing acts of violence and subversion, and making
threats, while justifying them with reference to Islamic texts and
teachings. Muslims and non-Muslim useful idiots like Zogby
characterize any such critical examination as "Islamophobia," but this
is just a manipulative coinage designed to stifle any such criticism,
which would have the effect of letting the jihadists proceed
unchallenged.
"Islamophobia can create radicalisation," by James Zogby in The Nation
(Pakistan), March 7:
Let me state quite directly: Islamophobia and those who promote it are
a greater threat to the United States of America than Anwar al-Awlaqi
and his ragtag team of terrorists.
Did you catch that? "Islamophobia," by which Zogby means a critical
look at how jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify
violence and supremacism, is worse than repeatedly inciting to mass
murder, as al-Awlaki has done.
On one level, al-Awlaqi, from his cave hideout in Yemen, can only prey
off of alienation where it exists. Adopting the persona of a latter-
day Malcolm X (though he seems not to have read the last chapters of
the "Autobiography" or learned the lessons of Malcolm's ultimate
conversion), he appears street smart, brash, self-assured and
assertive - all of the assets needed to attract the lost or wounded
souls looking for certainty and an outlet for their rage. Like some
parasites, al-Awlaqi cannot create his own prey. He must wait for
others to create his opportunities, which until now have been isolated
and limited - a disturbed young man here, an increasingly deranged
soldier there.
Islamophobia, on the other hand, if left unchecked, may serve to erect
barriers to Muslim inclusion in America, increasing alienation,
especially among young Muslims. Not only would such a situation do
grave damage to one of the fundamental cornerstones of America's
unique democracy, it would also simultaneously rapidly expand the pool
of recruits for future radicalisation....
Note that Zogby is writing this in a Pakistani paper. Pakistan is
almost entirely Muslim. There is no "Islamophobia" there, and Muslims
experience no alienation. And yet jihad activity is quite common
there. Now, why is that?
Aardvark
One hears a lot of bunk about this Joe or that
bunch of Joes radicalizing your guy--and I can
hardly believe my ears! If we follow this train of
thought to its logical conclusion then we must
say that poor Osama bin Laden was the victim
of radicalization by some bad guy or other and
we should pity him or something. Maybe try to
bring him unto the path of "true Islam." Bosh!
The un-politically correct fact is that all these
radicalized Muslims ALL were and ALL are being
radicalized by one source and only one source
--and that is Islam itself (and more specifically
still: the Koran, which in no uncertain terms
commands Muslims to "instill terror in the hearts
of non-Muslims," as in the infamous verse):
[8:12] I will cast terror into the hearts of those
who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=267454
This is an indisputable call for the murder of non-
Muslims. [Yes, other religions call for the murder
of disbelievers. The problem is that no Christians
or Jews are going around butchering people strictly
as "a religious duty" the way Muslims are doing,
and have been doing for nearly 15 centuries now.]
Why don't they stop? Because ALL Muslims are
taught since childhood that the Koran is the Word
of God, and to disobey even a single one of its
commands must be instantly punished by death
(a sentence which has, in fact, been carried out
a number of well documented times in our day).
This is NOT some theoretical exercise but a most
deadly practical one:
... One document (from al-Qaida training manuals
discovered in Afghanistan) began with an explanation
of the instructor's goals: "God Almighty has ordered
us to terrorize his enemies," it reads. "In compliance
with God's order and his Prophet's order..."
What Muslim can read this and doubt that his duty
is terrorism? I am truly amazed that there are so
FEW actual Islamic terrorists--Probably due to the
fact that most Muslims have never studied or even
once read the Koran: One thing is certain (and can
anybody doubt this?): EVERY Islamic terrorist is a
pious and dutiful student of the Koran (unlike
every Muslim who is NOT a terrorist).
And THAT is the most telling fact of all.
Will it be "discovered" by Rep. King's so prissy
and professional Congressional hearing? Ha!
There is no practical way for anyone to counter the
argument that a Muslim ought not to be a terrorist
outside of forcing him to admit that the Koran is
NOT the Word of God ... but the swindle of some
criminal boss who wanted his gang to be able to
murder for profit without the slightest hesitation.
These people are not being radicalized by their
local (or even their most distant) pals but by Islam
itself, by the Koran ... by the assurances which
every Muslim receives from birth that the trust of
Islam is the unquestioned absolute "perfection of
truth" which is the Koran: This is why NO MUSLIM
will disavow, denounce, or condemn the passages
in the Koran commanding them to murder their
fellow-Americans who happen to be non-Muslims.
[Surprise!] This is why Muslims know that the
Congressional panel under Rep. King will be hard-
pressed to find one single Muslim who will step
forth and repudiate even the most notoriously
egregious passage in the Koran [if one is ever
asked to do so] and still hope to remain a Muslim.
S D Rodrian
http://sdrodrian.com
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I fail to see why ANY Japanese person would
have had any objections to a Congressional
inquiry into whether Japanese-Americans were
engaged in acts of sabotage/terrorism against
the United States: From all I've ever heard
there were no significant pro-Japan actions
by Japanese-Americans anywhere in the
United States during World War II.
On the contrary: I would imagine, in fact, that
it might have been the Japanese-American
community itself which would have been
clamoring for a Congressional investigation
into their patriotism... knowing such an
investigation would have fully exonerated them.
I can understand why Muslims might object
to such an inquiry, though, because NO
MUSLIM will disavow, denounce, or condemn
the passages in the Koran commanding
them to murder their fellow-Americans who
happen to be non-Muslims. [Surprise!]
Therefore, Muslims know that the Congressional
panel will be hard-pressed to find a single
Muslim who will repudiate even the most
notoriously egregious passage in the Koran.
Albeit, as a curiosity, personally, I would
be interested in hearing one of them do it.
You know ... see what happens.
S D Rodrian
http://sdrodrian.com
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Rep. Peter King's hearings on Islamic radicalization:
Fuel for the bigots" RE:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/07/AR2011030703896.html
The Islamofacism enablers among us have
gotten into the incredible habit of calling
those who only wish to point out the truth,
the facts: "bigots." [Is it bigotry to say that
people have feet at the end of their legs?]
These suicidal name-callers are hopeless
contemptible morons themselves [sic] whose
self-loathing is putting Western Civilization
and our very lives (because a great many of
us will fight to save our freedom) at risk.
The evil nature of Islam is beyond denial.
And anybody who denies it is self-evidently
& without one single doubt: a liar.
Now, the Koran commands Muslims to lie
to non-Muslims as a religious duty. In fact,
the Koran commands Muslims to keep the
Koran itself from being read by non-Muslims
(because, after all, nobody wants to give
the plan for conquest to those who are
to be conquered). However, this religious
"duty" was promulgated at a time when it
was possible for the Muslims to keep the
Koran from being obtained by non-Muslims.
Today the Koran is freely available to be
read in the Internet--And I advise everybody
to read it (including those Muslims who
genuinely ingenuously may not really
understand the truly evil nature of the
murderous cult they are helping to inflict
upon an innocent world). Begin here:
It is time somebody explains this to the world
in no uncertain language. And I commend all
who are decent enough to do it ... and tough
enough to weather the undeserved opprobrium
heaped upon them for merely speaking out the
truth.
The path to Wisdom
always follows that of Truth:
All religions are local.
Only science is universal.
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Amro
Here is what the Qur'an says in general:
In the Name of God Most Gracious Most Merciful
60.8 God does not forbid you from being just and kind to those
(idolators) who did not fight you for your religion or drive you out
from
your homes. For God loves those who are just.
2.190 And fight in the way of God with those who fight with you,
and do not start the agression surely God does not love those who
start the agression.
8.61 And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in
God;
surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
2.62 Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the
Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last day
and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and
there
is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
5.69 Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians
and the Christians whoever believes in God and the last day and does
good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.
Aardvark
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:11:46 -0800, Lamumba <george...@toast.net>
> wrote:In article ><42257a13-eee7-43b2-b2d6-8aa8442ab...
@b8g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > Aardvark <a...@sdrodrian.com> wrote:
> >> Just Who IS radicalizing All These Muslims?
>
> >snipped;
>
> >the policies of the racist Neo-Cons.
>
> Would you know?
>
> Did racist muslims enslave Africans and sell them
>in America?
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One of the most bizarre manifestations of
African-American pride is its contemporary
identification with Islam. The Nation of
Islam (Black Muslim movement) plays on
the racism against black people by white
people hence you hear them use terms
like "white devils", etc.
The Muslim Hadith says Muhammad was a
white man, so Black Muslims actually serve
Islamic whites, even though they speak
against whites.
Meanwhile, the Muslim Hadith says the
following about blacks: Narrated Anas bin
Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen
to and obey, your ruler even if he was an
Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks
like a raisin." (Sahih Bukhari Volume 9,
Book 89, Number 256)
Hadith; vol.9:162,163: Muhammad warned
that dreams of black women meant disease
was forthcoming. Black Muslims today are
so uninformed that they don't even understand
that Muhammad had many black slaves and
called them raisin heads (Hadith vol.1:662,
vol.9:256 )
Muslims are told that Africans “annoy the
Prophet” (Ishaq 243), have hearts “grosser
than a donkey” (Surah 9:61) and that blacks
should be left to die if injured, and should
be denied intercession and entrance to heaven
(Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 137).
Yet and still Louis Farrakan and his followers
will tell us the lie that Christianity is the white
man's religion. Jesus came for all regardless
of color, but Black Islam is especially designed
just to lead Black folks to hell! It was the
peaceful Christian's in America who stopped
all slavery here.
The story goes that in 1930 Allah appeared
to the people of Detroit in the form of a
mysterious man named “Fard.” Allah’s human
form seemed to be of African and Arab
descent and claimed to have been born in
Mecca, a descendent of the prophet Muhammad.
He preached a message of racial identity and
claimed that Islam was the true religion of
the black people of America before they
were robbed of it by the White man.
In fact, Fard was really just a small-time
conman named Wallace Dodd Ford, who
served three years in San Quentin for drug-
dealing. He drifted into Detroit at a time
when many African-Americans were
beginning to form racial identity groups
around charismatic personalities such as
Marcus Garvey. Of course, race consciousness
was hardly just a “black thing” at the time,
as the 1920’s were also when Ku Klux Klan
influence peaked in America.
Interestingly, Ford was neither of African
nor Arab descent, as he claimed. He was a
mix of European and Polynesian. But he did
recognize an opportunity when he saw one,
and the street preacher soon built up quite
a following among those who could appreciate
an overtly racist theology that persists to
this day in spite of its zaniness.
According to Ford, and his Nation of Islam,
Africans were the original and only people of
the world (divine and uncorrupted) before
whites were invented by an evil scientist
named Yakub in a malicious experiment with
tragic consequences. Islam is the true religion,
and, at some point, a spaceship will be sent
by Allah to exterminate the white people from
the earth.
Another sad aspect of Black Muslims is that
many African-Americans are drawn to Islam
out of racial pride, thinking that there is
some sort of association with Africa. Muslim
evangelicals in the black communities and
in prisons often play this up in an attempt to
persuade the gullible into rejecting Christianity
as the “white man’s religion.”
In the First place, Christianity in Africa predates
Islam by almost 600 years. Christian missionaries
were on the African continent within two decades
of the Crucifixion. Secondly, unlike Christianity,
Islam had no interest in missionary hospitals or
the poor. Arab contact with Black Africa was
for one purpose only, plain and simple. That
same as it is now: slavery. The awful truth is
that Arabs ravaged Africa for more than 1000
years before Europeans ever got their hands
on black slaves. These black Muslim slaves
died from over work and lived in squalor. By
contrast, the four million slaves brought to
America over the course of 200 years managed
to leave the most prosperous group of African
descendents on the planet. Today a man of
African descent is President of the United
States in no small part because of the political
power of those descendants of American slaves.
Orthodox Islam does not want to be identified
with the Black Muslim movement in America.
It is seen as heretical and is not considered part
of Islam.
Antichrist
End Time Beheadings and Revelation 20:4:
Some Christians and ex-Muslims see a direct
correlation between Islam and the Book of
Revelation about the "end times". It is interesting
to note that Revelation 20:4 tells that the faithful
Believers in Jesus will be beheaded. One only
has to look at militant Islam today to make this
correlation. Islam is the only religion that
commands this barbaric custom of beheading.
They do this everywhere today to those they call
"infidels". The Qur'an commands in Surah 47:4
"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield,
strike off their heads..." To fundamental Muslims,
the entire world including your own home is their
"battlefield".
It is all a war of spiritual forces. The god Allah
is opposing the God of Israel everywhere in the
world today. Allah will be defeated in the end.
And so will his millions of mindless followers he
controls.
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from
http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
The path to Wisdom
always follows that of Truth:
All religions are local.
Only science is universal.
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Amro
Well, Hadith is basically junk but Qur'an
9:61 does not say that Blacks have hearts
"grosser than a donkey." Your credibility
is questioned.
[9.61] And there are some of them who verbally
abuse the Prophet and say: He is one who
believes every thing that he hears; say: A hearer
of good for you (who) believes in God and believes
the faithful and a mercy for those of you who believe;
and (as for) those who verbally abuse the Apostle of
God, they shall have a painful punishment.
Qur'an 24:32 and 2:221 encourages not only free
believing men to marry slave believing women
but also for free believing women to marry slave
believing men.
As for Christianity, archeology and Egyptology
revealed its origin. here are the links to learn
more:
Aardvark
<Amro_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 6:33 pm, Aardvark
<a...@sdrodrian.com> wrote:
> > > >> Just Who IS radicalizing All These Muslims?
> > > >snipped;
> > Prophet” (Ishaq 243), have hearts “grosser
> > than a donkey” (Surah 9:61)
> Well, Hadith is basically junk but Qur'an
> 9:61 does not say that Blacks have hearts
> "grosser than a donkey." Your credibility
> is questioned.
It is a quote from
http:/www.bibleprobe.com/blackmuslims.htm
Here is a quote from
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/140738
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Also, let me correct you on Ishaq 243. This
Hadeeth is considered a weak Hadeeth being
narrated in a Mu'allaq form. Mu'allaq hadeeth
is one in which one or more narrators are
omitted from the beginning of its isnaad by
the muhaddith who compiled the book or
Every hadeeth which is mentioned in the books
with the isnaad omitted and which is attributed
to the Prophet (PBUH), without being attributed
to any of the books of Sunnah, is a mu'allaq
hadeeth.
Ibn-Ishaq and other sources are extremely
doubtful and unauthenticated. Most Muslim
scholars today firmly and strongly believe in
this. As most Muslim Scholars agree, we Muslims
can't take them as absolute Truth or accurate
information. Much of these volumes are either
corrupt or taken out of context. Again, this is
according to the Muslims scholars. This is why
these volumes are considered "unauthenticated".
Someone made some mistakes with the translation.
Here is what this hadeeth translates to in English.
"If what Muhammad says is the truth, then we are
worse than donkeys, "after which God revealed
concerning him: "They swear by God that they
said nothing (bad), but really they said the word
of disbelief, and they disbelieved after accepting
Islâm, and they resolved that (plot to murder
Prophet Muhammad SAW) which they were unable
to carry out, and they could not find any cause to
do so except that God and His Messenger had
enriched them of His Bounty. If then they repent,
it will be better for them, but if they turn away,
God will punish them with a painful torment in
this worldly life and in the Hereafter. And there
is none for them on earth as a Walî (supporter,
protector) or a helper."
Ibn Ishaq said: "It was claimed that he repented
to God for this and that his repentance was genuine.
And (among the hypocrites from Banu Lawzan Ibn
‘Amr Ibn ‘Awf) was Nabtal Ibn Al-Harith; it was he
of whom the Messenger of God said, according to
my information: ‘Whoever wishes to look at Satan
may look at Nabtal Ibn Al-Harith.' And he was a
large man with long, black hair, red eyes and dark
cheeks." Biography of the Prophet by Shaikh
Abdullah ibn Al-Shaikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab
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You can believe whatever you wish
as neither quotes are of me.
The path to Wisdom
always follows that of Truth:
All religions are local.
Only science is universal.
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