To all ismailis
Navali
accusation a million times from the Holy Qur'an.
please read the following from the Holy Qur'an -- leaving aside your
personal opinion, bigotry and falsehood [akbarally meherally/his
misinformed follower]!
Navali
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YA ALI MADAD
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, RAHMAN, RAHIM
001.002 Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,
001.003 ar-Rahmanir Rahiim
001.004 Malik Yawmid Diin--
Master of the Day of Judgment,
:
001.005 THEE WE WORSHIP; THEE WE ASK FOR HELP.
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What does the above mean according to the Holy Qur'an only?
017.078 Establish WORSHIP at the going down of the sun until the dark of
night, and (the recital of) the QUR'AN at dawn. Lo! (the recital of) the
QUR'AN at dawn is ever witnessed. 017.079 And one PART OF THE NIGHT awake
for it, a largess for thee. It may be that thy Lord will raise thee to a
praised estate.
017.080 And say: My Lord! .... AND GIVE ME
FROM THY PRESENCE A POWERFUL HELPER
-- WAJ-ALII MILLADUNKA SULTAANAN NASIIRAA
017.081 And say: TRUTH hath come and falsehood hath vanished away. Lo!
FALSEHOOD is ever bound to vanish. 017.082 And We reveal of the QUR'AN that
which is a healing and a mercy for believers though it increase the
evil-doers in naught save ruin.
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004.075 How should ye not fight for the cause of Allah ..... men and
of the women and the children who are crying: OUR LORD! ...
OH, GIVE US FROM THY PRESENCE SOME
PROTECTING FRIEND! OH, GIVE US FROM THY
PRESENCE SOME DEFENDER!
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did you tell us that MUSLIMS must ask Allah ALONE for HELP?? if so, have you
ever read the above in the Holy Qur'an as well??? if you have then what does
it mean?
why does Allah COMMAND YOU to *SEEK from His PRESENCE a Powerful Helper?*
did the Holy Prophet [SAS] not know about Allah's command to the contrary in
Surah al-Fatihah?
will you care to tell us that means in any Muslim's practice of Islam --
starting from the Holy Prophet's (SAS) era to our present time?
EVERY MUSLIM MUST do this as part of his daily ritual, regardless!
When was the following prayer first made known to the Muslim world and what
role did the Ismaili play in its propagation then??? let the
ISLAMIC HISTORY speak for itself.
Naadey Ali! Nade Ali!
Naadey Aliyyan
Mazharal Ajayeb
Tajidahu Aunun Laka Finnwaeb
Kullu Hamin wa Gamin Sayanjali
Bi Wilayatika
Ya Ali! Ya Ali! Ya Ali!
Call Ali! Call Ali!
Call aloud to Ali
Who is the epiphanic source of wonders
You shall surely find him helping in your troubles
All grief and anxiety will disappear
By Your power and Authority!
O Ali! O Ali! O Ali!
Hazrat Ali was never defeated in a war or a combat throughout his
life. His physical strength was beyond human comprehension. He removed from
the hinges the strong doors of the Khyber fort with a single jolt of his
hand. Later, seven strong men with Abu Ra'fe', the famous strongman, could
not lift even an inch from the ground one of the corners of the door. When
asked about his wonderful display of strength, in removing the doors, Hazrat
Ali replied that it was his divine power." (Sayyidul Ausiya, p. 65)
"Ali, Son of Abu Talib, Son-in-Law and first cousin of Prophet
Mohammad (Peace be upon him), father of Imam Hasan and the greatest Martyr
Imam Husain, the Lion of God, Gateway of Knowledge, the mightiest of mighty;
does not need an introduction, He was at the same time master of the Pen and
Sword -- a rare combination. Even today in the battle fields the Cry of "Ya
Ali !" resounds, invoking his help. Sportsmen, Wrestlers and Athletes,
taking part in manly games, chant the Slogan of "Ya Ali !" for their
victory. On the other hand, the pious devoted entirely to the service of
God, almost all of them trace the spiritual lineage from Ali and believe him
to be the Fountain Head of all Knowledge." - S.M.A. Rizvi
"Ali is absent today from our midst only physically. His soul even
to this day is the greatest spiritual resort to everyone who seeks the
help of God through his medium. Thousands and thousands of people call out
to him in their difficulties, and the word "Ya Ali Madad",
automatically comes to them. A famous prayer known as "NADEY ALI" (Call Ali)
is recited wherever abound the lovers of Ali." - Majlisi
"Here the garrison came out in great force, and on that day every
attack made by the Muslims was repulsed. "Tomorrow," said the Prophet,
"will I give the standard unto a man whom God and His messenger love. God
will give us the victory by his hands; he is not one who turneth back in
flight."
"In his previous campaigns the Prophet had used relatively small flags
as standards, but to Khaybar he had brought a great black standard made
from a cloak of A'isha's. They called it 'the Eagle', and this he now gave
to Ali." - Martin Lings in his book: "Muhammad - his life based on the
earliest sources"
"Ali was one of the most courageous and able men in the Muslim army. He was
appointed the standard-bearer at the battles of both Badr and Khaybar. At
Khaybar (A.H. 7) the following tradition is related by several Sunni and
Shi'i histories. This is the version found in a Sunni collection of
Traditions, the Sahih of Muslim:
'The Apostle of God said on the day of Khaybar: "I shall certainly
give this banner to a man who loves God and His Apostle and through whom
God will give victory." Umar ibn al-Khattab said: "I never wished for a
leadership except on that day." And he also said: "And so I leapt up towards
it hoping to claim it as a right." And the Apostle of God summoned Ali, the
son of Abu Talib, and gave it to him and said "Go! And do not turn aside
until God gives you victory."
"When the Prophet left to go on his longest expedition, to Tabuk, Ali
was left in charge at Medina. According to some accounts, Ali felt
insulted to be left with the women and children while, according to
others, rumours spread that Ali had been left behind because it was
feared he would bring misfortune to the expedition. In any case, Ali
went to the Prophet voicing his discontent at being left behind. It was
at this time, according to numerous Sunni and Shi'i Traditionists, that
the famous Hadith of Manzilat Harun (position of Aaron) was revealed.
According to this Tradition, Muhammad said to Ali: " Are you not
content to be with respect to me as Aaron was to Moses, except that
after me there shall be no other Prophet." The implication was that Ali
was to be Muhammad's chief assistant in his lifetime and his successor after
him." - Moojan Momen's "An introduction to Shi'i Islam" published by Yale
University Press
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DID THE HOLY PROPHET (SAS) WORSHIP ALI? Please note that these have been
quoted from the Ithna'asharite sources ONLY.
Ahadith:
1. Ibn Mas'ud says that the Prophet said: TO LOOK UPON ALI IS DEVOTION.
2. Ibn Asakir on the authority of CALIPH ABU BAKR records the Prophet
said: LOOKING UPON ALI IS WORSHIP
[Non-Ismaili source: 'Ali The Magnificent, by Yousuf N. Lalljee [a
Shia 12er- -Ithna'ashari] pp. 251].
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NAVALI: IF THESE HADITH ARE CORRECT AS RECORDED
BY NON-ISMAILI SOURCES THEN DOES IT MEAN THAT LOOKING UPON ALI WAS
DEVOTION AND WORSHIP? IF
SO, WHAT DID THE HOLY PROPHET DO WHEN HE
LOOKED UPON ALI [PBUTH]?
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Lakum Diinukum--Unto you your Religion
WA LIYA DIIN--AND UNTO ME MY RELIGION
Kaafiruun--Disbelievers - Surah 109:6
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saleem qamar <sal...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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: Salam to All,
:
: Tell me Aliyah, are you in any major "majlises" in ismailism such as
: noorani or fidai? How often do you go to Jamat khana. With all due
: respect, I find that ismailis do nothing but shirk. Shirk is not a small
: thing - it is a major sin. Unfortunatley 99.99% of ismailis today don't
: know how to read the quran let alone know its meaning. even the dua they
: read is wrong. In the first part of your dua you say "O Allah we only
: seek your help...." but later on in the other parts you clearly mention
: ALI's name and ask him for divine help. In many cases the ismailis have
: forgotten to worship Allah (Their true LORD) and are worshiping Hazrat
: Ali (who was nothing but a noble,humble human being and who is dead now
: May Allah have mercy on his soul). We all respect all other religions
: but when it comes to truth, the truth is facing us right in our faces,
: but we don't recognize this (How Sad!). Please try to read the Quran
: with an extremely open mind and see and compare it what your daily
: practices. In the NOORANI majlis one of the tasbeeh is "YA ALI YA Rehman
: tu Ya karim tu..." This is a complete shirk, IF ALI had heared this I am
: 100% sure he would have gotten extremely angry.
:
: Please read the Quran.
:
: Salam
:
: Saleem
: