Oral Sex and Islam - > SERIOUS QUESTION <
Keith
to a man ?
If Islam does not allow that can you post the chapter where it's mentioned
in the Quran.
Thanks.
Maher
Though it is not mentioned as allowed or not allowed in the Quran or Hadith,
it is not acceptable for the only reason that one mouth recite the Quran and
prays in between the hands the hands of the Almighty (SWT), in my opinion it
is not acceptable but I might be wrong. If someone else has any other
opinion please share it with us.
Allah knows best and all
Maher
Keith wrote in message <6tj9iq$k3o$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>...
Gunnar Gunderson
Keith wrote in message <6tj9iq$k3o$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>...
>In Islam can a man give oral sex to a women and can a women give oral sex
>to a man ?
Hi Keith, I recall reading that it is mackhruh, or disapproved of,
and I believe the source is the ahadith. If I can find it, I will send
you a specific reference.
Umar Gunderson
Yahya
things, such as kissing the mouth and other parts of the woman's or man's
body.
The Prophet (pbuh) was said to fondle and play with his wives. Surely, this
means (implies) that kissing on the mouth and intercourse is not the only
allowed sexual activities.
We are instructed to enjoy each other. The only forbidded sexual activities
(besides adulterous activities) is anal sex and sex during a woman's period.
If it's not forbidden, then we should not forbid it for ourselves (in excess
of the law).
Comments? Anyone?
Salaam,
Yahya
PS: please do not send me e-mail replies. reply only to the newsgroup.
Maher wrote in message <6tje4q$3k1$1...@shell3.ba.best.com>...
>Keith,
>
>Though it is not mentioned as allowed or not allowed in the Quran or
Hadith,
>it is not acceptable for the only reason that one mouth recite the Quran
and
>prays in between the hands the hands of the Almighty (SWT), in my opinion
it
>is not acceptable but I might be wrong. If someone else has any other
>opinion please share it with us.
>
>Allah knows best and all
>
>Maher
>
>Keith wrote in message <6tj9iq$k3o$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>...
>>In Islam can a man give oral sex to a women and can a women give oral sex
>>to a man ?
Al Razi
There are (at least) two streams of school of thoughts concerning halaal and
haraam:-
1. Only those mentioned in Quran and hadith as Allowable (Halaal) are
allowable. Everything else is forbidden.
2. Only those mentioned in Quran and hadith as Forbidden (Haraam) are
forbidden. Everything else is allowable.
Of course the scholars have their own arguments supporting each school of
thought. As a follower of Shafi'e mazhab I prescribe to the second one. Some
other mazhabs follow the first one, that's why they prohibit the consumption
of certain seafood like crabs. My point is... its okay to differ..... as
long as we understand each other... and be comfortable with what we believe
and practice.
Regarding the issue of Oral Sex there is no specific prohibition against the
practice. The only prohibiton (as in earlier post) is anal intercourse,
everything else is allowable as long as you do it with your lawful partner
and he or she is happy with it.
One thing that I have heard somebody (who is knowledgable) cautioned.... The
genitals will secrete some liquid when aroused, some of which are unclean
(najasa). So what the husband or wife has to avoid is from taking this
unclean fluids.
Wallahu a'a lam...
Thank you.
Yahya wrote in message <6tpds5$llb$1...@shell3.ba.best.com>...
ars...@altavista.net
"Keith" <sna...@cyberdude.com> wrote:
> In Islam can a man give oral sex to a women and can a women give oral sex
> to a man ?
> If Islam does not allow that can you post the chapter where it's mentioned
> in the Quran.
>
> Thanks.
>
Why do you people ask for a quranic verse for every possible human/non human
problem? Such trivial detail can't be found in the Quran, since it can be
derived from the details of halal and haram quite easily. Also, the Prophets
way of having sex is well documented.
Islam allows vaginal sex only. All other forms including Oral sex are totally
and completely Haraam. There are no exceptions. Besides, semen is Najis
(uclean of the highest magnitude) and by implication (by my understanding),
every Najis thing is Haraam.
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Nimra
how do you get to this conclusion?
As I know, there is no hadith or other source, that lead to your statement.
If the way of having sex of the Prophet a.s. is documented,does that mean,
we haveto do it in the same way? I thing not, or?
Maher B.
Semen is not Najis, semen is pure and not Najis, humans are not made of
Najas. The sexual act is a spiritually unclean that is why we are supposed
to shower after.
And oral sex is neither Haram nor Allowed, it is left to personal desire.
Allah knows best and all
Maher B.
Nimra wrote in message ...
Laulak Siddique
What is not forbidden is allowed. Those who try to make halak into
haram are themselves in rebellion
ls
Maher B.
what brother Laulak said, what is not written as Haram or Halal is Allowed
and is left to ones perception.
Thank you my brother for correcting me, may Allah SWT reward you with His
SWT best and grant us all His mercy ,,, Allahum Ameen
Obeid Allah
Maher B.
Laulak Siddique wrote in message <361841...@worldnet.att.net>...
>Maher B. wrote:
>> Nimra wrote in message ...
>> >Esselam,
[snip]
mich...@igs.net
ars...@altavista.net wrote:
> Islam allows vaginal sex only. All other forms including Oral sex are totally
> and completely Haraam. There are no exceptions. Besides, semen is Najis
> (uclean of the highest magnitude) and by implication (by my understanding),
> every Najis thing is Haraam.
Wouldn't this be a problem only if the recipient of oral sex swallows?
Also, this does not really apply to performing oral sex on a woman.
Personally I find the notion that God cares whether we have oral sex or not
to be way beyond bizarre. You make God sound like the worst kind of yenta.
Cheers,
Michael
----
Michael Voytinsky
Ottawa Ontario Canada
http://www.igs.net/~michaelv
ZOG Be Praised!
ars...@altavista.net
"Maher B." <mah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Salaam Alikum
>
> Semen is not Najis, semen is pure and not Najis, humans are not made of
> Najas. The sexual act is a spiritually unclean that is why we are supposed
> to shower after.
I must have really misunderstood Islam. Sexual act between a husband and wife
is equivalent to Ibadah to me and all the Muslims I know.
>
> And oral sex is neither Haram nor Allowed, it is left to personal desire.
>
> Allah knows best and all
>
Allah has given me and you a head with a lot of gray matter to think. I cant
understand that how a man's lust can lead him to oral sex if he follows the
Quran and Sunnah. Masturbation is Haraam in some fiqh and utterly detestable
in others. Now where did we get this? From Quran? No. From Sunnah? No. From
Ijma' and Ijtihad? Yes, from the Gray matter, that is.
Total faith => Clean mind => clean life
ars...@altavista.net
"Nimra" <Ni...@usa.net> wrote:
> how do you get to this conclusion?
Using my humble head.
> As I know, there is no hadith or other source, that lead to your statement.
> If the way of having sex of the Prophet a.s. is documented,does that mean,
> we haveto do it in the same way? I thing not, or?
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was sent to be a model for the Muslims. A living model
of Quran, in letter and spirit. We as Muslims are duty bound to follow him as
much as possible. That is, yes, sexual intercourse be done according to Quran
and Sunnah.
Maher B.
purpose of your reply may I ask you brother ?
ars...@altavista.net wrote in message <71579i$aep$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <pfUR1.92390$RC5.11...@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>,
> "Maher B." <mah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Salaam Alikum
>>
>> Semen is not Najis, semen is pure and not Najis, humans are not made of
>> Najas. The sexual act is a spiritually unclean that is why we are
supposed
>> to shower after.
>
>I must have really misunderstood Islam. Sexual act between a husband and
wife
>is equivalent to Ibadah to me and all the Muslims I know.
>
>>
>> And oral sex is neither Haram nor Allowed, it is left to personal desire.
>>
>> Allah knows best and all
>>
>
>Allah has given me and you a head with a lot of gray matter to think. I
cant
>understand that how a man's lust can lead him to oral sex if he follows the
>Quran and Sunnah. Masturbation is Haraam in some fiqh and utterly
detestable
>in others. Now where did we get this? From Quran? No. From Sunnah? No. From
>Ijma' and Ijtihad? Yes, from the Gray matter, that is.
>
>Total faith => Clean mind => clean life
>
mich...@igs.net
ars...@altavista.net wrote:
> I cant understand that how a man's lust can lead him to oral sex
There are books that can help you with that. May I suggest that you start
with Dr. Ruth's "Sex for Dummies"?
> Masturbation is Haraam in some fiqh and utterly detestable
> in others. Now where did we get this? From Quran? No. From Sunnah?
> No. From Ijma' and Ijtihad? Yes, from the Gray matter, that is.
So, masturbation is not forbidden in the Quran. It is not forbidden
in the Sunnah. How exactly does your gray matter lead you to conclude
that it is forbidden?
Cheers
Michael
--
Michael Voytinsky
Ottawa Ontario Canada
http://www.igs.net/~michaelv
In ZOG We Trust
c.r. Mcneal
ars...@altavista.net wrote in message <7157j5$b0l$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <eJEeSI$79GA...@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com>,
> "Nimra" <Ni...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> how do you get to this conclusion?
>
>Using my humble head.
>
>> As I know, there is no hadith or other source, that lead to your
statement.
>> If the way of having sex of the Prophet a.s. is documented,does that
mean,
>> we haveto do it in the same way? I thing not, or?
>
>Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was sent to be a model for the Muslims. A living
model
>of Quran, in letter and spirit. We as Muslims are duty bound to follow him
as
>much as possible. That is, yes, sexual intercourse be done according to
Quran
>and Sunnah.
>
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I would like to jump on this topic. At root the only haraams re: sex are
anal sex and sex during menses. Everything else that is not mentioned via
Quran or Sunnah, usually are just opinions and no one knows except for
Allah.
Yet, just as dealing with any appetite there are overindulgences in
sexual matters just as there is gluttony in eating. Hence, the muslim is
always striving to find a balanced use of his natural appetites.
Sexual desire is not a dirty thing, that misconception is a carry over
from other religious concepts & cold ascetic principals that no living human
being can ever truthfully live up to.
Yet, many Imams and scholars have passed fatwas that condemn any
variation of sexual posture & experimentation. This, and this is my personal
opinion, was done as a preventative measure to slow down the levels of
experimentation & overindulgences that would otherwise occur (i.e. if no one
passed a fatawa saying "mastribation is haraam"
then people would eventually take to turning from marriage and just take the
'easy' way of mastribation for release of sexual impulses).
At root, the muslims mainly wants to strive toward balance and
appreciation for Allah has given him.
Mazen Mokhtar
On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:35:14 GMT, ars...@altavista.net wrote:
>In article <pfUR1.92390$RC5.11...@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>,
> "Maher B." <mah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Allah has given me and you a head with a lot of gray matter to think. I cant
>understand that how a man's lust can lead him to oral sex if he follows the
>Quran and Sunnah. Masturbation is Haraam in some fiqh and utterly detestable
>in others. Now where did we get this? From Quran? No. From Sunnah? No. From
>Ijma' and Ijtihad? Yes, from the Gray matter, that is.
Actually, it's from the Qur'an. "And those who preserve their
private parts, except from their wives or those whom their right hand
possesses, then there is no blame on them."
Those who say that masturbation is Haram use this verse. Those who
say that it's Halal (though not considered good ethics) say that this
verse is meant to forbid fornication.
Ijtihad and Ijma' must be based on Qur'an and Sunna. Matters of
Tahreem and Tahleel cannot come from opinion alone. This is described
as a form of shirk in the Qur'an and in the Hadeeth.
Everything outside of belief and worship is Halal unless it is made
Haram with proof.
Please note that I am not arguing for or against the original point,
just that if it is Haram, it must be because of a proof in the Qur'an
or Sunna, not because of opinion.
Assalamu `alaykum,
Mazen Mokhtar
Mo
night . Could modern Muslim men match him ?..
Masturbation is forbidden in Qur'an. The Qur'an says:
"The believers are... those who protect their
sexual organs except from their spouses... Therefore,
whosoever seeks more beyond that [in sexual
gratification], then they are the transgressors."
(23:5-6)
the last sentence makes it very clear that any sexual
gratification
outside marriage is considered a transgression of the law
of
Allah (SWT). and this verse also implies that sex is an
act in which two
people are involved.
it is also forbidden in sunnah. but you, michael, a
non-muslim have no
knowledge of either so dont try giving your perverse fatawas
to other muslims.
Laulak Siddique
>
> In article <pfUR1.92390$RC5.11...@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>,
> "Maher B." <mah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Semen is not Najis, semen is pure and not Najis, humans are not made of
> > Najas. The sexual act is a spiritually unclean that is why we are supposed
> > to shower after.
>
> I must have really misunderstood Islam. Sexual act between a husband and wife
> is equivalent to Ibadah to me and all the Muslims I know.
>
> >
> > And oral sex is neither Haram nor Allowed, it is left to personal desire.
> >
> > Allah knows best and all
> >
>
> understand that how a man's lust can lead him to oral sex if he follows the
> Quran and Sunnah. Masturbation is Haraam in some fiqh and utterly detestable
> in others. Now where did we get this? From Quran? No. From Sunnah? No. From
> Ijma' and Ijtihad? Yes, from the Gray matter, that is.
>
Don't present your personal views as Allah's Law
ls
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Re: Looking for Big Cocks to Suck and Swallow Cum
Author: Haz
Email: r...@total.net
Date: 1998/09/17
Forums: alt.sport.weightlifting
Sorry, no big cocks here, only small chickens!
><trash like that needs to be snipped>
>
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Date: 1998/10/09
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Email: r...@total.net
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Email: r...@total.net
Date: 1998/09/25
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Author: Haz
Email: r...@total.net
Date: 1998/10/09
Forums: alt.sport.weightlifting
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Author: Haz
Email: r...@total.net
Date: 1998/10/10
Forums: alt.sport.weightlifting
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Author: Haz
Email: r...@total.net
Date: 1998/10/10
Forums: alt.sport.weightlifting
Haz, the dick sucking hermaphrodite said:
"Scott Espinoza, your mama tastes good. Now where's your sister and your
friend's sister ?"
>>That's not what your mama said!
>>As for ignoring me thats just fine as long as
>>you sister doesn't ignore me.
>>Tata ;->
>
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Author: Haz
Email: r...@total.net
Date: 1998/10/10
Forums: alt.sport.weightlifting
>You did spam the group, asshole. Also, I for one have no fucking clue what a
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Author: Haz
Email: r...@total.net
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AND FAMILY!!!!
> Maher B. wrote in message ...
> >Yes it is a form of Ibadah, where did I say it is not ? and what is the
> >purpose of your reply may I ask you brother ?
> >
> >
> >
> >ars...@altavista.net wrote in message <71579i$aep$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >>In article <pfUR1.92390$RC5.11...@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>,
> >> "Maher B." <mah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Salaam Alikum
> >>>
> >>> Semen is not Najis, semen is pure and not Najis, humans are not made of
> >>> Najas. The sexual act is a spiritually unclean that is why we are
> >supposed
> >>> to shower after.
> >>
> >>I must have really misunderstood Islam. Sexual act between a husband and
> >wife
> >>is equivalent to Ibadah to me and all the Muslims I know.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> And oral sex is neither Haram nor Allowed, it is left to personal
> desire.
> >>>
> >>> Allah knows best and all
> >>>
> >>
> >>Allah has given me and you a head with a lot of gray matter to think. I
> >cant
> >>understand that how a man's lust can lead him to oral sex if he follows
> the
> >>Quran and Sunnah. Masturbation is Haraam in some fiqh and utterly
> >detestable
> >>in others. Now where did we get this? From Quran? No. From Sunnah? No.
> From
> >>Ijma' and Ijtihad? Yes, from the Gray matter, that is.
> >>
> >>Total faith => Clean mind => clean life
> >>
Ch. Muzafar Ah. Shiraz
"And those who preserve their
private parts, except from their wives or those whom their right hand
possesses, then there is no blame on them."
tell me plz
Navali
wives and
from those whom their right hands possess; such indeed, are not to blame;
70:31 But
those who seek to go beyond that, it is these who are transgressors -
---------
24:30. Say to the believing men that they restrain their looks and guard
their private parts. That is purer for them. Surely, ALLAH is Well-Aware
of what they do. 24:31. And say to the believing women that they restrain
their looks and guard their private parts, and that they display not
their beauty or their embellishment except that which is apparent
thereof, and that they draw their head-coverings over their bosoms, and
that they display not their beauty or their embellishment save to their
husbands, or to their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their
sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers or the sons of
their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or women who are their
companions, or those that their right hands possess, or such of male
attendants as have no desire for women, or young children who have not
yet attained knowledge of the hidden parts of women. And that they strike
not their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may become
known. And turn ye to ALLAH all together, O believers, that you may
prosper.
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They beat their wives when they refuse them.
Any comments on that?
mich...@igs.net wrote in message <712jds$1ft$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
Rooj J.
I BET YOUR DAD WAS A MULLAH AND YOUR MOM TOLD YOU.
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Muslim
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+AD4-Mullahs love Anal sex?
+AD4-
+AD4-They beat their wives when they refuse them.
+AD4-
+AD4-Any comments on that?
+AD4-
+AD4-
+AD4-
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+AD4APg- arsalan+AEA-altavista.net wrote:
+AD4APg-
+AD4APgA+- Islam allows vaginal sex only. All other forms including Oral sex are
+AD4-totally
+AD4-
+AD4-
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Haroon Khan
Rooj J. wrote in message <365e1...@nemo.idirect.com>...
>HOW DO U KNOW
>I BET YOUR DAD WAS A MULLAH AND YOUR MOM TOLD YOU.
>Soul wrote in message <73i5mn$6ve$4...@usenet44.supernews.com>...
>>Mullahs love Anal sex?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>mich...@igs.net wrote in message <712jds$1ft$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>>>In article <6uu4v5$bap$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
>>> ars...@altavista.net wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Why on earth are we discussing such a topic in the first place. This sort
of crap will not be tolerated.
Peace
Haroon
>
Kevin J. Dunphy
This is the kind of discussion that kept me off of these boards for a long
time.
Haroon Khan wrote in message <73mj8v$s9g$1...@newnews.global.net.uk>...
Recon44
I guess some find this subject hard to swollow.....
or in Bad taste???
Kevin J. Dunphy wrote in message ...
iza...@writeme.com
to it. For this topic, if someone is asking, then I can tell you that oral
sex is permissible.. I am not the one declaring it, I can tell you the
reference book which is on www.al-islam.org web site, under Ahle-Bayt Digital
Library, and the name of the book is I believed "Marriage, Men& Women" or
something to that extend.
Regards,
Imran
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