Re: Hindu Widow Loses Battle Against Malaysia's Islamic Law

[Steve Hayes]

On 28 Dec 2005 14:16:39 -0800, nkdat...@bigmailbox.net wrote:

>http://telegraphindia.com/1051229/asp/nation/story_5657602.asp
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>
>Telegraph
>Thursday December 29, 2005
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>Hindu widow loses last rites tug of war
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>Kuala Lumpur, Dec. 28 (Reuters): Malaysia's Islamic authorities acted
>against the wishes of a Hindu widow and gave her husband a Muslim
>burial today, ending a religious tug of war that has inflamed opinion
>among the country's non-Muslim minority.
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>
>"The decision today is a setback for race relations in this
>country," ethnic Indian lawmaker M. Kulasegaran told reporters after
>the widow failed in her legal bid to get custody of her husband's
>body and give him a Hindu cremation.

So what does this have to do with British culture?
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
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[Riglin]

"Steve Hayes" <haye...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 28 Dec 2005 14:16:39 -0800, nkdat...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
>
>>http://telegraphindia.com/1051229/asp/nation/story_5657602.asp
>>
>>
>>Telegraph
>>Thursday December 29, 2005
>>
>>
>>Hindu widow loses last rites tug of war
>>
>>
>>Kuala Lumpur, Dec. 28 (Reuters): Malaysia's Islamic authorities acted
>>against the wishes of a Hindu widow and gave her husband a Muslim
>>burial today, ending a religious tug of war that has inflamed opinion
>>among the country's non-Muslim minority.
>>
>>
>>"The decision today is a setback for race relations in this
>>country," ethnic Indian lawmaker M. Kulasegaran told reporters after
>>the widow failed in her legal bid to get custody of her husband's
>>body and give him a Hindu cremation.
>
> So what does this have to do with British culture?
> --

It's to inform the world how Syariah works in a modern multi-racial society.

[equaliser]

Apart from the fact that the british went around the world in the past
and created a big mess of other people's cultures and countries, I am
not sure what this has to do british culture.

But let me tell you what can happen to you in Malaysia. Let say you die
in Malaysia and two muslim blokes testify in syariah court that you
intended to convert to islam when were alive, bingo, the syariah judge
rules that you are muslim! and your wife can't enter syariah court to
verify or challenge this and neither can she seek justice in civil
court. The religious department with the police claims your body and
buries you according to muslim rites. While your wife and children
conducts ceremonial rites with paper image of you.... There now, get
the picture?

[Ravi Kumar]

Looks like we need more publicity like this!! As it is we are already in the
doldrums where the economy is and now this unwanted stories from all over
the world. Yahoo has already posted this. Unfortunately, we are sending out
the wrong signals. We probably have tourists thinking twice about coming
here cos in case something happens, they may end up being buried as....

Or we can all sit back and tell these tourists that if they don't like it
here, please take ur money and stick else where and then claim I was
MIS-QUOTED!!!

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[pluto]

"On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:01:31 +0800, "Ravi Kumar" <rku...@pc.jaring.my>
wrote/and/or quoted:

"
>Looks like we need more publicity like this!! As it is we are already in the
>doldrums where the economy is and now this unwanted stories from all over
>the world. Yahoo has already posted this. Unfortunately, we are sending out
>the wrong signals. We probably have tourists thinking twice about coming
>here cos in case something happens, they may end up being buried as....
>
>Or we can all sit back and tell these tourists that if they don't like it
>here, please take ur money and stick else where and then claim I was
>MIS-QUOTED!!!

hey, k ravi tambi,
you are not misquoted.
it has happened.
the 20 000 000 cn tourists have moved to sg, th, mm, id, in, au, ph, thanks
to my's "good works".
remember the my minister went to cn to apologise for the chinawoman forced
to do nude ear squat?
now this macabre compulsory muslim burial if two "kind" muslims decide to
swear that you are a muslim while alive touring malaysia !
so any hindu, jew,taoist,buddhist,confusionist,christian,shintoist coming
to malaysia may suffer the same fate of the hindu everest climber, "suffer
some fatal accident", declared a muslim and buried in malaysia !

OK ALL TOURISTS, WELCOME TO MALAYSIA!!

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>"equaliser" <equali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1135845581.2...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Apart from the fact that the british went around the world in the past
>> and created a big mess of other people's cultures and countries, I am
>> not sure what this has to do british culture.
>>
>> But let me tell you what can happen to you in Malaysia. Let say you die
>> in Malaysia and two muslim blokes testify in syariah court that you
>> intended to convert to islam when were alive, bingo, the syariah judge
>> rules that you are muslim! and your wife can't enter syariah court to
>> verify or challenge this and neither can she seek justice in civil
>> court. The religious department with the police claims your body and
>> buries you according to muslim rites. While your wife and children
>> conducts ceremonial rites with paper image of you.... There now, get
>> the picture?
>>
>

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-pluto

[Ravi Kumar]

Well said Brother!!!

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[Ravi Kumar]

The mis quoted was the minister da!!! Claims that he was mis quoted when
millions of others heard correct.

"pluto" <pl...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
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[kyle]

In article <1135845581.2...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
equali...@yahoo.com says...

So, if some hardcore poor non-Muslims.. immigrants perhaps let's say,
died in Malaysia, and to save money, their relatives or friends just
declare the dead just converted. Puff... free burial ?

[adchin]

kyle wrote:
>
> So, if some hardcore poor non-Muslims.. immigrants perhaps let's say,
> died in Malaysia, and to save money, their relatives or friends just
> declare the dead just converted. Puff... free burial ?

I was told by my aunt, when I talked to her earlier today, her church,
they also do this free burial thing for poor people who are Christians.
They go in small groups to General Hospital, etc.... weekly, to pray
for the sick people, etc... I think this is a good and kind thing to do

[pluto]

"On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:46:36 +0800, kyle <ky...@thankyou.com> wrote/and/or
quoted:

no no no, it must be the muslim friends who can declare;
not any non muslim tom dick and harry

> Puff... free burial ?
i am not sure of this
any muslim friends who can advise us on this please?

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-pluto

[Riglin]

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Well, goodness or evilness, it depends on how aggresive is their approach.
I've known cases where a family member of the dying person is a Christian
and he/she ask his/her church members to visit and pray for this person.
Then in the weakest moment of this dying person, they converted him/her. I
heard that the conversion is quite simple also. They'll ask him/her whether
he/she believes in Jesus. When he/she said yes then that's it, he/she has
become a Christian.When the rest of the family members found out, it's
already too late. Normally, the other family members avoid adding stress to
the dying person will just let it be.

[pluto]

"On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:22:02 +0800, "Riglin" <Rig...@quanyin.com>
wrote/and/or quoted:

yup, k riglin
that is about correct
except
the dead's properties are shared out in accordance to the will of the dead
person, prior to his death--- if he has left a will.
if not, then the person dies inestate and the family court after taking
into account all debts, and death duties, aportion the remainder to the
bereaved family i.e. the children and/or relatives.

in the case of a person who dies inestate as a moslem, his properties are
proscribed by the shariah court.

if the children are not moslems, they get nothing.

i dont know what the shariah court do with the dead person's properties.

i stand to be corrected here please.
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-pluto

[adchin]

Riglin wrote:

> Well, goodness or evilness, it depends on how aggresive is their approach.
> I've known cases where a family member of the dying person is a Christian
> and he/she ask his/her church members to visit and pray for this person.
> Then in the weakest moment of this dying person, they converted him/her. I
> heard that the conversion is quite simple also. They'll ask him/her whether
> he/she believes in Jesus. When he/she said yes then that's it, he/she has
> become a Christian.When the rest of the family members found out, it's
> already too late. Normally, the other family members avoid adding stress to
> the dying person will just let it be.
>

Happened to my mother. She was converted on her death bed in the Penang
GH. I kindly informed the people from some church that my mother was
the kind of person who prayed to God early in the morning for guidance,
on what shares to buy and sell, from her list of many.... was also the
kind of person who goes to pray to Goddess of Mercy for advice, when I
went to US to study, to see if going to US was a good idea, with the
other option being Australia. Luckily the 2 little YES/NO shells turned
up in favor of US. So, I very kindly also informed them that I had
already paid for my mother's coffin, death clothes, booked the booth at
the funeral home, booked the Buddhist monks, etc.... and they were
still adamant that my mother had converted. And my father being
Christian, had to keep quiet and stay out of it, because he knows what I
said was the truth, and it wasn't even his church. My mother prays to a
whole range of Gods and deities about 2/3 times a day. It's highly
unlikely that a person like that will change religion in the last 2
weeks of her life. Leopards don't change their spots, especially dying
ones somemore

Yeah, so I know what happens to people on their death beds in hospitals.
I have heard stories about how people signed away their properties,
etc... to the church also, from one of the nurses, as I was relating my
story to her, later that evening. But she was surprised that the church
people left my mother alone after I talked to them ... commenting, wah
my mother special case, so quickly they back down.

[adchin]

Riglin wrote:

> he/she believes in Jesus. When he/she said yes then that's it, he/she has
> become a Christian.When the rest of the family members found out, it's
> already too late. Normally, the other family members avoid adding stress to
> the dying person will just let it be.

Happened to my mother in Penang GH. I had to have a small talk with the
whatever church people to iron out the situation. They were very
understanding, and all, so left my mother alone after the polite
discussion. 2 ladies from the church said they saw my mother, who could
no longer speak, and already was not in control of her mind, nod her
head, up and down, when they asked her if she wanted to become a Christian.

[adchin]

pluto wrote:
>
> if the children are not moslems, they get nothing.
>
> i dont know what the shariah court do with the dead person's properties.
>

Write out personal cheques for some lucky bas***d's home renovation ??
I don't know really, and would also like to find out.

[....lobert......]

Sick people in hospital are most vulnerable and easily manipulated.. I
have also seen brothers and sisters fight over the conversion when their
parents were in hospital instead of respect their parents wishes. Some
of them had never treat their parents well when they are alive but fight
over the way the funeral to be carried out. It gave me an impression
that whatever funeral does not really matter to the death, it matter
more to those alive to show off their wealth or power.

[cksf]

Its all about "face" ... cannot lose it.

CKSF

[adchin]

....lobert...... wrote:
> parents were in hospital instead of respect their parents wishes. Some
> of them had never treat their parents well when they are alive but fight
> over the way the funeral to be carried out. It gave me an impression

The old man, on a bed 2 beds away from my mum in the ICU, I saw his
family, come with lawyer to make the old man thumbprint some documents,
will probably. I thought it was in very bad taste. They should have at
least waited till he had died, then just thumbprint then, and then have
the lawyers backdate the documents.

[Touche']

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I wonder whether "you" will land up in which heaven?
Hindu or Muslim heaven??

[Alkhwarizmi Alhony]

The Dream of Anti-Islam Forces



Introduction.

 

It is a dream of anti-Islam forces to get rid of Islam from
the face of the earth but they know the impossibility of their dream coming
true. Therefore, they have resigned themselves to live with Islam but a
modified one in the mold of Christianity, a religion of a few private
rituals. Anti-Islam forces want to redefine Islam and they want Muslims to
accept it. They have been working on this project for the last three
centuries with a lot of success. Their last three centuries of persistent
efforts has given rise to pseudo-Islamic cults, new sects, sects redefined,
and corrupted orders within Islam.

It is not a secret that various anti-Islam forces are working in tandem and
in coordination with each other to remove the Islam of the Qur'an and Sunnah
from people's lives around the world. They will tolerate a ritualistic Islam
in the mold of Christianity but not real Islam. The question may be asked,
"who are these anti-Islam forces?" This author has written an article on
this topic; for a detailed discussion, see "ISLAM IN AMERICA: ROUGH ROAD
AHEAD", published in the MESSAGE INTERNATIONAL, February 2000. A brief
introduction is given below.

Anti-Islam forces may be divided into three groups: (a) Secular
Fundamentalists, (b) Zionists and Hindu Fundamentalists, and (c) Christian
Fundamentalists. All three work together, support each other in full
cooperation, and each group has its own area of work delineated. All three
groups put together constitute only under 4% of the American population or
under 10 million individuals. However, these people enjoy tremendous power
and sway over the people. Over 96% of the people are ignorant believers and
followers of anti-Islam forces. It is possible to break the bond between
anti-Islam leaders and their ignorant followers through massive education by
the Muslims.

Anti-Islam leaders come with titles like Dr., Rev., Prof., etc., which carry
an air of authority when they speak. However, when they speak they give
informed individuals the impression that they, perhaps, have their
doctorates and specialties in bigotry and demagoguery. A few examples of
these hate-mongers include, Dr. Robert Morey, Dr. Anis Shorroush, Rev. Pat
Robertson, Rev. Billy Graham, Prof. Sam Huntington, Prof. Daniel Pipes and
many others.

Secular Fundamentalists are those intellectuals who see religion as
irrelevant in peoples' lives but they tolerate religion if people have
private beliefs in some kind of God or gods. Some of these people may have
some loose belief in some kind of god or gods but they do not see its
relevance in the social, economic, and political lives of the people; these
may even include the clergy. They are particularly against Islam because
they perceive that this religion tries to become an established system of
life competing with secularism. Naturally, secularists try to destroy Islam
completely; they have an agenda. Secular Fundamentalists is the largest of
the three anti-Islam forces and the most powerful because its proponents
include politicians, media people, businessmen, professors, teachers and a
section of the common folk in the West. These are the people who are running
governments, UNO and its branches, banks, multi-national corporations,
think-tanks, universities, school systems, charitable foundations, and much
more. They control almost the entire wealth of the planet earth. But Allah
is more powerful. Secularists use academically-oriented tools to create hate
of Islam. These are the generals of the anti-Islam war. These bigots and
demagogues are found among professors, specialists, gurus, academicians of
universities, and other think-tanks. It should be understood that not every
Secular Fundamentalist is an Islam hater but a majority among them are,
overtly or covertly. Islam haters use the academic media of research papers,
educational material, publication of books, publication of articles in
professional journals, and magazines. Thus, they influence the top echelon
of the society.

Zionists and Hindu Fundamentalists fear Islam for their own protection. They
perceive that the expansion of Islam will destroy their ideologies and their
political domains. These are pragmatists and their reasoning for carrying
out anti-Islam activities may be summed up as the following:

1. The more Islam and Muslims are demonized, the better the Zionists and
Hindus look. Dehumanizing and demonizing Muslims has its own rewards. It
gives them the legitimacy to kill Muslims, bulldoze their property, oppress
them, and arrest and torture Muslim activists. How often it is that one
learns of the killing of a rat as news in the newspaper or TV news program.
However, the killing of Muslims makes no news, let alone, the headlines.
Whereas, when a single Zionist or a Hindu is hurt or killed by a Muslim it
makes resounding headlines in the West. Palestinians in their own land,
Muslims in Kashmir, and Chechens in Chechnya are suffering but the powerful
West has become mute and blind to their sufferings. To add insult to injury,
they emphatically label Muslims as being "terrorists". A stark contrast to
Western policy toward Muslims is evident in the case where East Timuris, a
Christian and animist minority in Indonesia, burned mosques, killed dozens
of Muslims, and marched in the streets. The West stood up in their support
and forced their independence upon Indonesia. The Western double standard at
play is obvious in that the Palestinians, Kashmiris, and Mindanao Muslims
have been demanding their independence for decades and West calls them
"terrorists" and helps their oppressors. In October 2000 over 100 Arab
youths were killed by the Israelis using American taxpayer-paid guns. A
large percentage of the murdered Arabs were teen-age children but no one is
questioning Israel or blaming Israelis. When two Israeli-trained assassins
who were sent to kill Arab leaders were caught and subsequently killed, it
made headlines all over the world. Trained assassins are "peacemakers" and
children ages 6 to 16 are "terrorists". Only the ignorant will buy this kind
of distortion and there are many in the U.S. due to myopia, laziness,
indifference, laxity, and complacency of the Muslim masses and their
leaders, particularly those Muslims living in the West. Muslims living in
the West have tools and power available to them to change the situation
forever and reverse the environment from anti-Islam to pro-Islam.

2. Israeli and Hindu Fundamentalists dehumanize Muslims and portray them as
being brute terrorists while the actual perpetrators of terror, namely, the
CIA, Israel, and India receive financial, military, technological, and
espionage aid from the U.S. administration and Congress. Reportedly, Israel
receives from the U.S. government over six billion dollars annually in aid.
That is a $1,500 reward granted annually from the American taxpayers for
every Jewish male, female, and child living in Israel. This is the reward
for colonizing Palestinian land and displacing Palestinian people. The cycle
of repression of Muslims is strengthened using American help in the form of
guns, tanks, helicopter gunships, missiles, espionage training, intelligence
information, and generous economic aid. Muslims living in the U.S. can
change this policy through their involvement in the political process;
surely, there will be a lot of resistance against the Muslim entry but
Muslims have to fight it out and cut out their niche in the American
government and exert their influence. There are many success stories of
Muslim empowerment at the local level when they became active, for example,
in Santa Clara, CA, Bridgeview, IL, Morton Grove, IL, Brooklyn, NY, and the
senatorial race in New Jersey in addition to others. Muslims living in those
areas were able to turn the tide from anti-Islam to neutrality or pro-Islam.
The isolationism proposed by some ignorant Muslims is a recipe for a slow
suicide and is in effect a request to be subjected to the same fate that
Muslims suffered in Spain, Bosnia, Chechnya, and Kosova. As a result of
Muslim involvement, Congressman Tom Campbell (Republican, CA) presented a
bill in Congress to stop all forms of aid to Israel; the bill was supported
by only 12 congressmen but it was a first attempt. If Muslims become active
in American politics, the day when Tom Campbell's bill is passed will not be
far.

3. The Zionists and Hindus fear the increasing population of Muslims in the
U.S. They see that with the increasing Muslim population, Muslims will
eventually become politically and economically a factor and that scares them
the most. Zionist influence in America is drawn from Jewish involvement in
the political process through giving money, time, and talent for
politicians. It is estimated that for every dollar American Jews spend on
politicians, Israel receives over one thousand dollars from the U.S.
government. This process yielded them, not only money for Israel, but
opportunities of becoming politicians themselves. Now, Jews are in the
government and running the government at local and national levels enjoying
influence beyond their proportion in population (under two percent). Jewish
involvement in the political process has changed their position, that is,
from the most hated people around the 1900s to the most powerful people in
the year 2000. Actually, it took Jews in America less than sixty years (two
generations) of hard work to accumulate the power they have. These
anti-Islam forces are working as hard as possible to keep the growth of the
Muslim population in America in check and certainly, Muslim political
participation in check. They are already spreading rumors that Muslim
political participation is outright dangerous and should not be encouraged.
This group uses the media and entertainment industry to create hate of Islam
and Muslims. There are some Muslim groups, like Hizb At-Tahrir, Tanzeem-e
Islami, Tablighi Jamaat, and others who have come out actively against
Muslim political participation thereby fulfilling the dream of anti-Islam
forces. It is strange, what happened to the commonsense, intellect, and
wisdom of our sincere brothers? In their naïveté, they are becoming enemies
of Islam despite their love and sincerity for the deen of Allah. Although
their sincerity and love of Allah is unquestionable, they are nonetheless
positioning themselves right into the opportunistic hands of anti-Islam
forces.

3. Christian Fundamentalists see Islam as a world competitor in winning the
hearts and minds of the people around the world for their respective
religions. The conversion (reversion) rate to Islam is abhorrent and
terrifying for them. In addition, Christian Fundamentalists are more
Zionists than the Jews of America. This group works at the gutter level
creating lies and deception against Islam and Muslims and selling it to the
masses directly. They create hate of Islam and Muslims and work so that
Bosnia-like situations are created and the holocaust of Muslims takes place
right here in America. Their goal is to remove Islam from the West, which
includes the Americas and Europe, and they fight Islam in the
Muslim-majority countries as well. These are the foot soldiers of the
anti-Islam movement. The Christian Fundamentalists attack Islamic aqeedah,
practices, history, and civilizations; they distort everything Islamic and
misrepresent it to their listeners and readers. These people use Christian
TV and radio, publish books for common people, as well as brochures, tracks,
and pamphlets. Furthermore, their leaders with the title "Dr." appear live
in churches and deliver talks filled with bigotry against Islam and Muslims.
While Muslims are ignorant of these activities and oblivious to whatever is
going on around them, by the time they find the results, it will be too late
to do anything about it. It will be Bosnia right here in America. Those
Muslims who are against reaching out to the non-Muslim population are
fulfilling the dreams of anti-Islam forces. Again, this author finds
Tablighi Jamaat is openly guilty of opposing the reaching out to
non-Muslims. This author has experienced a lot of antipathy from these
people during his travels from New York to California for the purpose of
mobilizing the Muslim population to perform outreach work.

Muslims themselves contribute to islamophobia but this is not due to spite
for Islam but rather to their own ignorance of Islam but this is not the
topic of this paper. This author has written an article on this topic that
is unpublished but privately circulated. The solution to the problem of
anti-Islam forces is the education of Muslims and American masses about
Islam and Muslims and thus pulling the rug from under the feet of the
anti-Islam forces, that is, denying them an audience who would believe them.
The Muslim mission is like a bicycle that has two wheels. A monocycle is
incapable of going very far or fast enough. One wheel of the bicycle is the
education and reform of the Muslims and the other wheel is outreach to the
non-Muslims, both tasks must be done simultaneously. The policy of the
Tablighi Jamaat, which consists of going on a monocycle, has no evidence in
the Qur'an or the Sunnah. They will be able to contribute many sheep to the
herd but will not contribute to bringing out leaders who will lead the
Muslim Ummah, restore dignity to Islam and Muslims, and establish the rule
of Allah in this earthly life.

The Dreams: Anti-Islam forces would love to see a modified Islam that would
include the following:

1. Removal of Jihad from Islamic teachings. This is the scariest part of
Islamic teachings that a fighter is a ghazi or shaheed; it is win-win
situation for a Muslim mujahid. The West is willing to support any kind of
Islam that does not have Jihad in the meaning of qital in its theology. A
mushrik values two things most, his life and his property, the things that a
true Muslim cares the least about in the Way of Allah. Remind yourself of
the Hadith of wahn, the disease that will destroy Muslims and will render
them subjects of their enemies. They welcome Qadiyanis, Tablighi Jamaat,
Sufis, and similar other groups. These Muslim groups, by their opposition or
silence about Jihad in the meaning of qital, are fulfilling the dream of the
enemies of Islam. Qital is a part of Islam but it is relevant only in its
place and time; it is not for everywhere nor for every time there is
opposition to Islam. Muslims have a duty to attempt and exhaust all peaceful
means before resorting to qital. On the other hand, those who incite to
qital for every Muslim problem are also fulfilling the dreams of their
enemies because this gives them an opportunity to project Islam as
advocating terrorism and war.

2. Removal of politics as a part of Islam. There are two things under this
topic: (a) Separation of politics and "religion", which is the fundamental
dogma of secularism, and (b) discouraging Muslims from political
participation in the West, which is a wish and a dream so that Muslims do
not gain power and do not disturb the power of the Zionists and Christian
Fundamentalists. The separation of politics from religion is rooted in the
brutal rule of the Catholic Church over Europe lasting over one thousand
years in the name of religion. Secularists see Islam in the mold of
Catholicism, which is foolishness on their part and those Muslims who
support them.

Political participation of Muslims in America is hated by anti-Islam forces
because this will change the status quo and Muslims will begin to gain
political power in the U.S. They love the movements of Qadiyanis, Tablighi
Jamaat, Sufis, Hizb At-Tahrir, Tanzeem-e-Islami, and similar groups who
agree with the enemies of Islam in maintaining the status quo through their
opposition to political participation. These groups (anti-political
participation Muslims) make the dreams of the anti-Islam forces come true.
If Muslims become active in politics in an organized manner the power of the
Zionists and Christian Fundamentalists will dissipate in time and Muslims
may gain the position of dictating their policies domestically as well as
globally. Please do not tell me that allowing the enemies of Islam to
realize their dreams against Islam is part of the teachings of the Qur'an
and the Sunnah of the Prophet(S). The absence of Muslims from politics
leaves the field wide open for the enemies of Islam to work freely without
any resistance and obstruction.

3. Removal of Islamic Economics. Here again there are two things: (a)
Separation of economics of the country from religion, in this case Islamic
teachings, and (b) Preclusion of the Muslim establishment of economic
institutions based on Islamic economics. It terrifies these people that the
Muslims should become successful in their economic endeavors because that
will be the end of the capitalist economy which supports the exploitation of
the weak and the ignorant and greed is a virtue.

An interest-based economy is un-Islamic whereas a capitalist economy is
interest-based. Capitalism is rooted on the exploitation of the needs and
ignorance of the people. Islam makes it Haram. In addition, trading in
alcoholic liquors, swine products, gambling, and prostitution are Haram in
Islam. Islamic economics will demolish the entire structure built upon
capitalism. Tablighi Jamaat and Sufis are fulfilling the dreams of
anti-Islam forces by adopting silence in this area and that is not the
Sunnah of the Prophet(S). Anti-Islam forces would like to see either the
Muslims casting away the principle of Islamic economics or adopting silence
as the above- mentioned Muslim groups have done.

4. Modified Muslim social life. Anti-Islam Forces would like to see that
Muslims drop Hijab and objections to the free mixing of genders. They would
love to see that Muslims begin dancing the way it is done in the Western
culture and adopted by many eastern societies, including some westernized
"Muslims". They hate to see educated Muslim women wearing hijab and staying
away from westernized social parties. On the other hand, they love to
ridicule those Muslim women who are closeted in their homes and, if they go
out at all, they wear complete covering (burqa or abaiya or chador).
Rejecters of Hadith is the group that has adopted a western-style social
life and this pleases the West. On the other hand, Tablighi Jamaat has
become extremely oppressive of their women by denying them the opportunities
of education and intellectual growth. Tablighis even preclude their women
from going to the masajid and listening to the speeches of their own
scholars. They do not understand that the first five or six years of a child
shape his/her personality, this is the period he/she spends with the mother.
The mother is the first teacher of a child and builds up the personality of
that child. An oppressed, ignorant, frustrated, and angry mother is going to
become selfish, living day by day for the security of her food and shelter
till her last day comes. This kind of mother is going to raise a child in
her mold: selfish, angry, frustrated, ignorant, and with no ambition for
excellence or a vision for himself, his family, or his people. Conversely, a
mother who is educated, Islamically informed in the Qur'an and Sunnah,
happy, and a visionary with leadership qualities, will raise children who
are educated, happy, and visionary leaders. For a thousand years, Muslims
have oppressed their women, kept them ignorant, and suppressed and as a
result, we have raised a whole Ummah that is selfish, ignorant of Islam,
mediocre in their profession, short-sighted, devoid of vision for their
people, and lacking in leadership qualities. The whole Muslim world is ruled
by such selfish brutes who are able to become brute dictators with the help
of the West but cannot lead because their ignorant mothers did not train
them for such tasks. Tablighi Jamaat and the likes of them want to maintain
this sorry state of affairs for the Muslim Ummah and are happy with keeping
the reins of world power in the hands of anti-Islam forces. No wonder these
people can obtain visas to any country in the West whereas many good Muslims
are black-listed or quietly denied entry and if they enter somehow, they are
arrested and jailed under one pretext or another.

5. Opposition to Outreach to non-Muslims. Da'wah to non-Muslims is a duty of
all Muslims because this promotes and propagates Islam. Anti-Islam forces
hate this activity of Muslims most because the spread of Islam and any rise
in the influence of Muslims is contrary to their wishes and designs.
Anti-Islam forces love Tablighi Jamaat and Sufis who do not reach out to the
non-Muslims to convey the message. Naturally, the members of these Muslim
groups are able to obtain visas easily to countries all over the world. By
opposing or adopting silence against Da'wat ila-Allah to non-Muslims is
fulfilling the dreams of anti-Islam forces. Hizb At-Tahrir is quite vocal in
their slogan of "Khilafa is the solution" but they have no workable plan to
bring it about, not even in the Muslim-majority countries. I would like to
see their plan to establish Khilafa in places where Muslims are living as 2%
of the population such as in the United States. The West is not the place
for raising emotional slogans of "Khilafa is the solution" and hyping up a
few young people with fiery speeches. If their speeches are for establishing
Khilafa in one or more of the Muslim-majority countries, they should go to
those target countries and work there. All these people do is create more
problems and obstacles for those who have plans to bring about a change in
the West, as much as is possible, without any bloodshed.

6. Stop forbidding evil. Islamic teaching is Amr bil-ma'roof wa nahi 'an
al-munkar meaning enjoining good and forbidding evil. Forbidding evil is, in
essence, reminding people to abstain from their evil deeds, which they may
take as criticism. From a secular point of view, evil must be defined by
law; whatever is divinely defined as evil is not necessarily an evil. For
example, drinking liquors, gambling, fornication, and homosexuality are
acceptable norms in the West and they should not be labeled as "evil". From
the western point of view, Tablighi Jamaat is a wonderful group of Muslims
because they have taken out nahi &lsquo;an al-munkar and replaced it with
sukoot 'an al-munkar meaning silence about evil. Tablighi Jamaat is
fulfilling the dreams of anti-Islam forces. In the secular culture, all
evils that are not defined by law as crimes are wonderful, creative acts.
Nudity is creativity, pornography is creativity, homosexuality is an
alternate life-style, adultery is consensual adult creativity, and now here
comes another imaginative act, incest is creativity. Tablighi Jamaat prefers
to adopt silence on all these matters rather than reminding the society
about these evils and work to remove them from the society. The Muslims of
Tablighi Jamaat and Sufis are wonderful, moderate Muslims loved by Daniel
Pipes and Sam Huntington.

7. Stop studying and living by the Qur'an and Sunnah. It is becoming common
knowledge among informed Westerners that those Muslims who study Qur'an and
Sunnah and try to live by them are catalysts of change within the Muslim
Ummah. Such people earn the wrath of the West, they are awarded titles such
as Wahabi and Fundamentalist extremists, and are the targets against whom
the West subsidizes movements. This author has heard many times from Sufi
leaders that the goal of their lives is to fight to remove "Wahabism", a
non-existent ghost. Sufis do not work for the goal of their lives as being
that of earning the pleasure of Allah but rather gain the pleasure and good
graces of the enemies of Allah through their fight against Wahabism. The
term "Wahabism" was coined by the British in the 1820s to destroy the reform
movement of the Shahidayn in India through sowing hate and dissension within
the Muslim Ummah and in this the British were very successful. The people
who call mankind to the Qur'an and Sunnah are bringing meaningful change in
the Muslim societies worldwide and this upsets the West. The true revival of
Islam among the Muslims is possible only through the Qur'an and Sunnah. Only
rote recitation of the Qur'an rather than studying keeps Muslims tame.
Tablighi Jamaat and Sufis are fulfilling the dreams of the West from within
by discouraging study of the Qur'an and Sunnah. The West would love to see
Muslims blindly follow a leader who does not call people to study the Qur'an
and Sunnah but follow him blindly. According to Tablighi Jamaat and Sufis,
asking proof from the Qur'an and Sunnah is a taboo. Such religious leaders
can be bought and sold to the highest bidder thus controlling people becomes
easier. People who are ignorant and follow like sheep in a herd are much
easier to control than those who seek knowledge from the Qur'an and Sunnah
rather than hearsay opinions.

With respect to Muslim-majority countries, the West has the following dreams
in addition to the above-mentioned points.

Israeli Resolution. In the early 1970s the government of Israel passed a
resolution to keep all Arab (Muslim-majority) countries, singly or any
combination thereof, weaker than the State of Israel. This resolution was
adopted by the Democratic Party in total and a slightly weaker version was
adopted by the Republicans. It is obvious that these American political
parties have joined the enemies of Islam and Muslims and they are pursuing
the following strategies.

8. Educational and technological backwardness and mediocrity. It is the
earnest hope of the West that Muslims not become educated or technologically
advanced but remain mediocre in their work and professions. Research and
development and excellence should remain within the circle of non-Muslim
people. Muslims should only be consumers of development and production of
the non-Muslim world. Fortunately for the West, there are Muslim groups that
promote mediocrity, consumerism, and staying in the masajid as much as
possible - the West loves it.

The West is trying to keep Muslim-majority countries in the column of net
importers of consumer-finished products and exporters of raw material so
that they remain dependent upon industrially advanced non-Muslim countries
for finished products and purchasers of raw material. The West is trying as
much as possible to keep Muslim societies backward in education, technology,
and industrial products whether heavy industry or consumer products. As long
back as 1973 when King Faisal stopped selling oil to the U.S., Henry
Kissinger reportedly told Saudis that they may drink oil when they get
hungry because the U.S. would not sell them wheat. The U.S. government wants
to keep every Muslim-majority country at bay with that kind of threat.
Muslims cannot change such stupid policies of the U.S. government until they
get involved and rise upward through the ladder of power. Get involved and
gain influence. Muslims need not beg but demand and dictate after removing
anti-Islam forces from the position of power. It can be done and it should
be done. For the Muslims, the rise to power in America is not going to be a
bed of roses.

9. Denying military technology. The West would not mind if Muslim majority
countries have a police force with a few sticks and guns to kill their own
people and to keep them as herds of sheep who stay in line and remain loyal
to the puppets of the West. The peace process between the Israelis and
Palestinians showed their real intent. The deal was that the Palestinian
police would be given a few simple guns to keep the Palestinian population
under control and for use against their own people. A credible force of
defense against an enemy is not allowed for any Muslim-majority country.
When Iraq developed a credible force, it was bombed to the stone age. The
West has been conspiring with Israel, India, and Russia to bomb Pakistan to
the stone age, as soon as possible. India and Israel can develop nuclear
bombs but the same technology is denied to Pakistan and Iraq. Israel, India,
and China can develop their own missiles and airplanes but Pakistan and Iran
are not to develop these technologies. Those who oppose Muslim participation
in American politics want the status quo, that is, keeping Muslim countries
weak and maintaining the hegemony of the West, Israel, Russia, and India
over Muslim- majority countries. Only through involvement will Muslims be
able to change the policies of the West. Muslims should have the vision of
becoming the government of the West and pursue it with tunnel vision.

10. Globalization. This is the tool, which is being sold to Muslim countries
to stunt Muslim culture and replace it with western culture. Dr. S.M.
Kureshi of Pakistan has written a book under the title, "WESTERN
FUNDAMENTALISM IN ACTION"; it is worth reading.

It appears that "globalization" was developed to stunt the resurgence of
true Islam and the rising aspirations of Muslims to regain their past glory
of being the world power to which others would have to reckon with.
Globalization includes maintaining the hegemony of the West in all areas of
life, particularly, cultural hegemony. Some Islamic movements are trying to
remove the bad influences of the Western culture and replace them with true
Islamic norms, lost gradually under the colonial rule of Europe. The West is
using all tools available to her to implement globalization. Unless Muslims
reach the policy-making chambers, they will have no control over such
hazardous movements. Those Muslims who oppose Muslim involvement in U.S.
politics essentially want to give free rein to the West in their
implementation of globalization. For whom are these people working in their
ignorance? Are they working for Islam or anti-Islam forces? You decide!

During the last fifty years two persons were most influential in the
formulation of American foreign policy. During the Eisenhower era, John
Foster Dulles, then Secretary of State, formulated the policy that was
Capitalism-centered; it was anti-Communism and anti-Islam. When it was
suggested to him to work with Islamic movements to destroy Communism, he
rejected the idea saying that Communism was a daughter of the West whereas
Islam was an alien. During the Nixon era, Henry Kissinger, an immigrant Jew
from Europe, maneuvered himself into the position of Secretary of State.
Kissinger's policy was Zionism and Israel-centered and, naturally, it was
anti-Islam, anti-Muslim and anti-Arab. Perhaps, it was Kissinger who
inspired Israel to pass the resolution of keeping the Arab (Muslim) world
weaker than Israel so that American political parties could adopt in their
planks. He developed or contributed to the policy of dividing the world into
regions of influence (hegemony) with the U.S. on top, like on the top of a
totem pole. He chose Israel to be the masters of the Middle East, from
Morocco to Iran. India was chosen to be the master of South Asian countries
and Japan was selected to rule over the Far East. He chose the Republic of
South Africa (then a white, racist regime and an ally of Israel) to be the
master of sub-Sahara Africa. The same policy is being followed by the U.S.
government and Europe in the year 2000. Kissinger engineered the
implementation of Dulles' plan of breaking Pakistan into two pieces.
Kissinger planned further break of Pakistan into four pieces and his policy
is being followed by the successive U.S. governments. Muslims must get into
the power and put a stop to such anti-Muslim policies. Globalization is the
extension of the same old policies of Dulles and Kissinger. Only through
involvement, will the Muslims be able to change these corrupt and racist
policies.

In conclusion, it is an earnest appeal to our beloved brothers in Islam who
associate themselves with Tablighi Jamaat, Hizb At-Tahrir, and those who
agree with these parties to re-examine their policies and strategies. The
founders of these movements were sincere and good people but their policies
and strategies were developed during the colonial period. Had they been
living in our time, traveled in the West, this author is sure that they
would have changed. They would have never agreed to fulfill the dreams of
anti-Islam forces the way their perceived followers are intent on doing.
Besides, many of these policy and strategy issues are not a matter of
Shari'ah but rather a matter of Ijtehad. Let us work together to change the
world by bringing justice and equity as we have learned it from the Qur'an
and the Sunnah.

[harmony]

the war on terror probably is going better than believed. still, it ain't over till it is over. the only real yardstick that the war on terror is over is when a grad hindu mandir is built in the capital city of every mommedan contry, specially saudi, and receives state funding and tax breaks.

 

 

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