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SUBSIDIZED FARE FOR HAJ PILGRIMS

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Gul Agha

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Oct 30, 2000, 11:03:57 AM10/30/00
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Deregulate airlines and let those who want to go negotiate bulk
discount fares. Why is a the government of a "secular" country
involved in religion (or the airline business)?

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Peace,

Gul A. Agha

Dilip Sarkar

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Oct 30, 2000, 1:45:00 PM10/30/00
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Gul Agha <ag...@cs.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Deregulate airlines and let those who want to go negotiate bulk
> discount fares. Why is a the government of a "secular" country
> involved in religion (or the airline business)?

Good question Gul. I want to know how it is subsidized and whch muslims
benefit from it.

The Indian govt. does not subsidize a hindu's pilgrimage to various
hindu temples. Does it? Also, does the Indian govt. subsidized the
pilgrimage of a christian or jew to Jerusalem. Does it?

Bawa

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Oct 30, 2000, 10:30:30 PM10/30/00
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<address....@web.site www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote
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> Subsidised fare for Haj pilgrims
>

You can get discounted NY to London fare for $300. Rs. 12,000 for a huge
group of 72,000 passenger for this journey is no subsidy. The subsidy is
being calculated from full fare, which for this huge group is ridiculus
propoganda.


Bawa

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Oct 30, 2000, 10:32:16 PM10/30/00
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"Dilip Sarkar" <dsark...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In fact they do. By spending huge sum for yaatris infrastrucure for
Vaishno Devi etc.


Dilip Sarkar

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Oct 30, 2000, 10:50:26 PM10/30/00
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Bawa <Ba...@nunayour.com> wrote in message
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Never heard of that. What is yaatris infrastructure? Anyway, what about
providing discount train tickets or air tickets to travel to distant
temples?

M. Ranjit Mathews

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Oct 31, 2000, 4:04:50 AM10/31/00
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In article <q1rL5.156703$4d.23...@news02.optonline.net>,

"Bawa" <Ba...@nunayour.com> wrote:
>
> <address....@web.site www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
wrote
> in message news:Bharat-093...@news.mantra.com...
> > Subsidised fare for Haj pilgrims
> >
>
> You can get discounted NY to London fare for $300. Rs. 12,000 for
> a huge group of 72,000 passenger for this journey is no subsidy.

The $300 fares between NY and London are made possible by yield
management techniques that divide seating capacity into multiple fare
classes and thereby charge some passengers only a small premium above
marginal cost and recover the bulk of the costs from business
passengers who pay high fares. This brings us to the question: how many
business passengers travel between Bombay and Mecca ? If there are no
business passengers paying high fares that can subsidise the
remainder of the passengers, then the fares can be kept low only by an
external subsidy, in this case, from the Indian taxpayer. Got
it ?

> subsidised by business fares, whereby business The subsidy is


> being calculated from full fare, which for this huge group is
> ridiculus propoganda.

Indeed ? Call a charter service and see how much they would charge.
Figure in the fact that the first few outbound flights will return with
no passengers and the last few outbound flights would have no
passengers.


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M. Ranjit Mathews

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Oct 31, 2000, 4:24:55 AM10/31/00
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In article <43rL5.156719$4d.23...@news02.optonline.net>,
"Bawa" <Ba...@nunayour.com> wrote:

> > The Indian govt. does not subsidize a hindu's pilgrimage to various
> > hindu temples. Does it? Also, does the Indian govt. subsidized the
> > pilgrimage of a christian or jew to Jerusalem. Does it?
> >
> In fact they do. By spending huge sum for yaatris infrastrucure for
> Vaishno Devi etc.

Do these "huge sums" exceed the huge sums the government collects from
hundi offerings ?

Gul Agha

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Oct 31, 2000, 10:13:54 AM10/31/00
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Actually, I rather imagine a private contractor would still do yield
management -- there will be people willing to pay more for certain
dates and classes of service (e.g. when the time gets very close,
prices would be astronomically higher).

International flights should be privatized and subsidies ended. The
closed skies policy has been a disaster for Indian tourism as well.
The VIPs simply like to travel around with quotas.. and hand out
subsidies, and the managers protect inefficiencies such as nepotism.

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