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Peetee Aitchei
Dec 1, 2014, 4:37:57 PM12/1/14
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More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
from his Spiritual MONOLOGUE page:
http://spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
Sukhmani should be of particular interest to modern day followers of Eckankar,
Sant Mat, and Radhasoami. The connection with Eckankar is especially strong.
The Sukhmani opens with this line:
Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad.
This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru."
Some translations spell it this way:
Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad.
The resemblance to Eckankar is no accident. Paul Twitchell derived the name
for his modern teaching from this phrase. The connection goes deeper, as Guru
Arjan was teaching what he knew of Eckankar, in his time.
--- --- ---
ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
Search results for those "translations (that) spell it this way"
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Ekankar+Sat+Guru+Prasad%22
FIVE (5) Hits ... ALL about MARMAN's own book
ROTFLMFAO
Judas Priest!
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
--- --- ---
Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
spiritual & literary works of poetry.
For example, MARMAN suggests that "Sukhmani" means "bringer of peace to
the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
"Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
(shrug)
To find out more about the Sukhmani or Sikhism, go to a Sikh temple and
ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
Guru Nanak in 1500s.
To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
some MARMAN.
Do not say you have not been warned. :)
--- --- ---
More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
Peace!
from his Spiritual MONOLOGUE page:
http://spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
Sukhmani should be of particular interest to modern day followers of Eckankar,
Sant Mat, and Radhasoami. The connection with Eckankar is especially strong.
The Sukhmani opens with this line:
Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad.
This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru."
Some translations spell it this way:
Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad.
The resemblance to Eckankar is no accident. Paul Twitchell derived the name
for his modern teaching from this phrase. The connection goes deeper, as Guru
Arjan was teaching what he knew of Eckankar, in his time.
--- --- ---
ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
Search results for those "translations (that) spell it this way"
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Ekankar+Sat+Guru+Prasad%22
FIVE (5) Hits ... ALL about MARMAN's own book
ROTFLMFAO
Judas Priest!
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
--- --- ---
Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
spiritual & literary works of poetry.
For example, MARMAN suggests that "Sukhmani" means "bringer of peace to
the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
"Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
(shrug)
To find out more about the Sukhmani or Sikhism, go to a Sikh temple and
ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
Guru Nanak in 1500s.
To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
some MARMAN.
Do not say you have not been warned. :)
--- --- ---
More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
Peace!
Kinpa
Dec 1, 2014, 10:30:03 PM12/1/14
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there you go! feeling better now?? ;)>~~~~~~~~~
Peetee Aitchei
Dec 2, 2014, 2:14:15 AM12/2/14
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On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:30:03 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
> there you go! feeling better now?? ;)>~~~~~~~~~
Wasn't feeling bad to be in a position to be feeling better now.
> there you go! feeling better now?? ;)>~~~~~~~~~
Think what you want, say and do whatever floats your boat.
It doesn't matter to me... one way or t'other.
Kinpa
Dec 2, 2014, 9:02:58 AM12/2/14
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your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
Peetee Aitchei
Dec 2, 2014, 9:02:47 PM12/2/14
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On Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:02:58 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
> your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
That is, to put it simply, an opinion driven by delusional thinking
> your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
aka mythical thinking
aka wrongheadedness
aka bat shit crazy imagination gone wild
iow, exactly like Marman's opinions, only his is on a more grandiose scale.
entry level info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions
seriously interested genuine level info
http://www.delusional.com/delusions/grandiose-delusion.php
think Twitchell Klemp Marman Patti Simpson Gail Twitch Brad Steiger Skelskey Joan Klemp Mark Alexander Steve Runsfeldt Jasmyn Richard Pickett your GRANDMOTHER et al
Grandiose Delusional Disorder Facts and Myths
For many grandiose delusional disorder patients, the expression of the primary symptoms can cause difficulties for friends and loved ones. Understanding how this mental illness functions is essential for anyone that is close to a patient with grandiose delusional disorder to help be able to deal with the specific problems that often accompany the condition.
The primary grandiose delusions symptoms involve the patient's view of their self. In the condition, the grandiose personality is represented in a much larger form than reality. The patient will often believe that they are different from everyone else in society. The most typical manifestations of this belief are that the person is famous when they are not or that they are omnipotent. Another way that the condition is expressed is by the thought that the patient possesses supernatural powers.
These are often clearly impossible and can even take on fantastic aspects, such as being able to fly or having superhuman strength. An example of the famous subtype of the condition is when a person believes either that they are a specific historical figure or that they are the reincarnation of the said person.
These symptoms can occur as part of a the actual disorder of grandiose delusions or as a separate symptom for a deeper underlying condition. Other conditions that sometimes have delusions of grandeur as a symptom include schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
NOTE: The wise go to psychologists et al, not because they are mad or bad or
delusional or insane or have some egregious personality disorder themselves,
but to be educated on how to deal with those people in their life, who still
are or who have affected the 'presenting client' by being within their 'circle
of influence' at some point in their life.
PS Parting Shot:
Anyone who believes the Marman mythology that he is "returning precious sacred
stones" has simply got ROCKS IN THEIR HEAD.
(shrug)
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Kinpa
Dec 7, 2014, 9:15:40 PM12/7/14
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On Sunday, December 7, 2014 2:41:20 PM UTC-5, Kinpa wrote:
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
feeling better yet Sean?? LMAO! keep ranting....what is the matter with your laptop i wonder???.....
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
feeling better yet Sean?? LMAO! keep ranting....what is the matter with your laptop i wonder???.....
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On Monday, December 8, 2014 10:11:41 PM UTC-5, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> OK so I noticed the topic was changed to friendship.
>
> Some food for thought.
>
> When Twitchell was my age, he had no real friends.
>
> He had no real friends his entire life.
>
> He knew no one he could really trust.
>
> There was not one person who accepted him unconditionally as he was
> and for who he was deep down as a person.
>
> And he knew that.
>
> I'm doing quite OK relative to Twitchell and Klemp, if that's important to anyone.
>
> It's not to me. Simply offering it up as a possible yardstick to use.
>
> I choose my friends, my friends don't choose me.
>
> I have only ever met 3 real friends on a.r.e.
>
> One is dead, one became my lover and bestest ever true friend,
> and the other is my best mate in the whole world.
>
> Outside of eckankar, fwiw, three other of my real friends are dead.
>
> They were all friends for life.
>
> There are several others who have been real friends since before I was shaving daily.
>
> I determine who when and how I cut a cord of friendship.
>
> People who deem me as an ex-friend not worthy to be their friend do not,
> and never have.
>
> Beware the gossip queens who make excuses for their own unethical behaviour,
> lack of trustworthiness and not knowing what really genuine honest to god
> true friendship looks like.
>
> I'm doing OK.
>
> But thanks for asking.
i did not change the subject to friendship by any means...i only noted that you chose to attack me via mention of my grandmother, and that fact alone says it all really....i see that you removed your angry post below and decided to take a different track with it...i suppose that is a good thing, however, you did press send, so karmically, you are every bit responsible for your thoughts and words regardless of having deleted them....and btw, i know you believe there was some sort of "power of suggestion" going on, but there was none...have you noticed that you are still using the toilet several times each day? that will continue all week...blame whatever gets you through the night for it, i care not, it is what it is, and there is not much else to say about it. do what you have to do, and have a nice day!
>
> Some food for thought.
>
> When Twitchell was my age, he had no real friends.
>
> He had no real friends his entire life.
>
> He knew no one he could really trust.
>
> There was not one person who accepted him unconditionally as he was
> and for who he was deep down as a person.
>
> And he knew that.
>
> I'm doing quite OK relative to Twitchell and Klemp, if that's important to anyone.
>
> It's not to me. Simply offering it up as a possible yardstick to use.
>
> I choose my friends, my friends don't choose me.
>
> I have only ever met 3 real friends on a.r.e.
>
> One is dead, one became my lover and bestest ever true friend,
> and the other is my best mate in the whole world.
>
> Outside of eckankar, fwiw, three other of my real friends are dead.
>
> They were all friends for life.
>
> There are several others who have been real friends since before I was shaving daily.
>
> I determine who when and how I cut a cord of friendship.
>
> People who deem me as an ex-friend not worthy to be their friend do not,
> and never have.
>
> Beware the gossip queens who make excuses for their own unethical behaviour,
> lack of trustworthiness and not knowing what really genuine honest to god
> true friendship looks like.
>
> I'm doing OK.
>
> But thanks for asking.
i did not change the subject to friendship by any means...i only noted that you chose to attack me via mention of my grandmother, and that fact alone says it all really....i see that you removed your angry post below and decided to take a different track with it...i suppose that is a good thing, however, you did press send, so karmically, you are every bit responsible for your thoughts and words regardless of having deleted them....and btw, i know you believe there was some sort of "power of suggestion" going on, but there was none...have you noticed that you are still using the toilet several times each day? that will continue all week...blame whatever gets you through the night for it, i care not, it is what it is, and there is not much else to say about it. do what you have to do, and have a nice day!
Kinpa
Dec 9, 2014, 3:03:17 PM12/9/14
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On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:33:17 PM UTC-5, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 14:11:41 UTC+11, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
>
> re "Outside of eckankar, fwiw, three other of my real friends are dead."
>
> Correction, four, I forgot Arthur.
>
> He died @39 due to leukemia post a bone marrow transplant and a massive infection in hospital. his second wife was an angel of a woman, and his
> second son wasn't even a year old.
>
> Why would anyone believe I gave a flying F... about Marman's mythical BS,
> his feelings and the obsessive compulsive desires to be the High Priest
> for the collaterally damaged of Eckankar, is beyond me.
>
> And if one was to accept Kinpa's mythical BS too, my dead mates chose death
> simply to get away from me, the crazy man with no friends.
>
> Boy, how people's minds work, most days on planet earth, is pretty trippy, yeah?
>
> Marman is as significant, and as important, as an ice cube atop a ten square
> mile iceberg in the antarctic ocean.
that BS isn't by any means or interpretation mine. i said no such thing about you or any of your friends,but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and lay out false accusations upon me...but that makes you rather a lot like you claim PT and HK to be, a deceptive and knowing liar, who does so regardless of the truth. in all honesty that has not one thing to do with me either way.....i simply do not value the opinions of others to any such degree...simple fact. and why all of these mentions of Doug Marman? if he were as unimportant to everything as you just claimed, you wouldve dropped the subject LONG ago....you say one thing and in the same post prove the exact opposite...no one is forcing you to continually do this, least of all me, but apparently you consider Mr. Marman and his various writings important enough that you need to continually comment on them, and of course the same is true for Eckankar and Paul Twitchell and Harold Klemp as well....anyone with any degree of brains, after DECIDING that a religion is not only false but also worthless, as well as those who have written and/or plagiarized books about it, would leave it behind them and move on to anything more valuable or worthwhile, after all, life IS what YOU make it to be for yourself, nothing has been forced on you...
> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 14:11:41 UTC+11, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
>
> re "Outside of eckankar, fwiw, three other of my real friends are dead."
>
> Correction, four, I forgot Arthur.
>
> He died @39 due to leukemia post a bone marrow transplant and a massive infection in hospital. his second wife was an angel of a woman, and his
> second son wasn't even a year old.
>
> Why would anyone believe I gave a flying F... about Marman's mythical BS,
> his feelings and the obsessive compulsive desires to be the High Priest
> for the collaterally damaged of Eckankar, is beyond me.
>
> And if one was to accept Kinpa's mythical BS too, my dead mates chose death
> simply to get away from me, the crazy man with no friends.
>
> Boy, how people's minds work, most days on planet earth, is pretty trippy, yeah?
>
> Marman is as significant, and as important, as an ice cube atop a ten square
> mile iceberg in the antarctic ocean.
that BS isn't by any means or interpretation mine. i said no such thing about you or any of your friends,but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and lay out false accusations upon me...but that makes you rather a lot like you claim PT and HK to be, a deceptive and knowing liar, who does so regardless of the truth. in all honesty that has not one thing to do with me either way.....i simply do not value the opinions of others to any such degree...simple fact. and why all of these mentions of Doug Marman? if he were as unimportant to everything as you just claimed, you wouldve dropped the subject LONG ago....you say one thing and in the same post prove the exact opposite...no one is forcing you to continually do this, least of all me, but apparently you consider Mr. Marman and his various writings important enough that you need to continually comment on them, and of course the same is true for Eckankar and Paul Twitchell and Harold Klemp as well....anyone with any degree of brains, after DECIDING that a religion is not only false but also worthless, as well as those who have written and/or plagiarized books about it, would leave it behind them and move on to anything more valuable or worthwhile, after all, life IS what YOU make it to be for yourself, nothing has been forced on you...
Peetee Aitchei
Dec 9, 2014, 5:02:20 PM12/9/14
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On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 06:50:05 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
This is what mythical thinking, paranoia and delusional looks like in the real world.
"..... you chose to attack me.... "
As a result the rest isn't worth reading.
This is what mythical thinking, paranoia and delusional looks like in the real world.
"..... you chose to attack me.... "
As a result the rest isn't worth reading.
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On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:19:14 PM UTC-5, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 07:03:17 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
>
> Walk the Talk ...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4AJFyK63Hg
>
> re "and why all of these mentions of Doug Marman?"
>
> Anyone can read it for them self, all the articles (not just those posted here)
>
> - then it will be self-evident.
>
> - then each 'reader' can decide for them self.
>
> - no intermediary's opinion is required
> (especially one who has not read the WHOLE of it - in Context)
>
> About 7 billion people won't be interested.
>
> That's OK, because I didn't compile it nor write any thing for them.
once again you are showing the cracks in your mind with the great many assumptions you base yourself out of (and not the GOOD kind as per Neville Goddard) but if you so choose, then enjoy that....Doug Marman actually did address the many questions you ask of him here, he just didn't respond to you here...all of the things you accuse him of you are also guilty of....that bag of stones you've been carrying around on your back must be getting quite heavy by now, but of course, carrying it IS only your own choice...do as you see fit! i gain no end of entertainment from each word! :D
> On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 07:03:17 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
>
> Walk the Talk ...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4AJFyK63Hg
>
> re "and why all of these mentions of Doug Marman?"
>
> Anyone can read it for them self, all the articles (not just those posted here)
>
> - then it will be self-evident.
>
> - then each 'reader' can decide for them self.
>
> - no intermediary's opinion is required
> (especially one who has not read the WHOLE of it - in Context)
>
> About 7 billion people won't be interested.
>
> That's OK, because I didn't compile it nor write any thing for them.
once again you are showing the cracks in your mind with the great many assumptions you base yourself out of (and not the GOOD kind as per Neville Goddard) but if you so choose, then enjoy that....Doug Marman actually did address the many questions you ask of him here, he just didn't respond to you here...all of the things you accuse him of you are also guilty of....that bag of stones you've been carrying around on your back must be getting quite heavy by now, but of course, carrying it IS only your own choice...do as you see fit! i gain no end of entertainment from each word! :D
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On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:27:43 PM UTC-5, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:52:39 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
>
>
> RE ... at 3 am your time!
>
> um, that would be quite wrong, but dont worry about it.
if you say so, but it is true actually and you know it is...does it bother you? how would i even know?? lol
> On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 13:52:39 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
>
>
> RE ... at 3 am your time!
>
> um, that would be quite wrong, but dont worry about it.
if you say so, but it is true actually and you know it is...does it bother you? how would i even know?? lol
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On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:40:52 PM UTC-5, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 09:40:57 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
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>
>
> In case you haven't registered this yet .. i don't care one bit what Marman
> does or says. he's irrelevant. I didn't ask, so STOP GOSSIPING and grow up.
>
> If you wish to sup at his holy feet, you go do that.
> Nothing to do with me or anything i may have to say about anything.
>
> so run along and be a good boy from now on.
you DO care, because you gossip, i merely informed you of the TRUTH, no gossip in any way...grow up? i grow daily...not that it is any of your concern, try it for yourself...i sup at no one's feet, holy or otherwise, the idea is ridiculous....but why DO my words cause such a stir in you???? i have yet to be otherwise than a "good boy", try it sometime ;) whether you admit it or not, i am providing you with a service you need very badly, it is entertainment for me, FREE entertainment :D
> On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 09:40:57 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
>
>
>
> In case you haven't registered this yet .. i don't care one bit what Marman
> does or says. he's irrelevant. I didn't ask, so STOP GOSSIPING and grow up.
>
> If you wish to sup at his holy feet, you go do that.
> Nothing to do with me or anything i may have to say about anything.
>
> so run along and be a good boy from now on.
you DO care, because you gossip, i merely informed you of the TRUTH, no gossip in any way...grow up? i grow daily...not that it is any of your concern, try it for yourself...i sup at no one's feet, holy or otherwise, the idea is ridiculous....but why DO my words cause such a stir in you???? i have yet to be otherwise than a "good boy", try it sometime ;) whether you admit it or not, i am providing you with a service you need very badly, it is entertainment for me, FREE entertainment :D
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name calling now?? where on earth is the maturity?? LOL really son, consider growing up a bit, you're displaying your own weaknesses with each reply of this sort...as i said many times before, FREE entertainment~! it is funny that you clearly display your inability to ignore what is said here, and incapable of not going ever lower on the scale with each tantrum and insult... i will however, thank you again for the laughs! notice how i called you nothing ;) try it sometime, IF you dare lol and if not, all i can say is that that's is typical for you...try again...
Etznab
Dec 10, 2014, 7:40:20 PM12/10/14
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On Monday, December 1, 2014 9:30:03 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> there you go! feeling better now?? ;)>~~~~~~~~~
More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
> there you go! feeling better now?? ;)>~~~~~~~~~
More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
Etznab
Dec 10, 2014, 7:40:34 PM12/10/14
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On Sunday, December 7, 2014 1:41:20 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
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On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:31:40 AM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> name calling now?? where on earth is the maturity?? LOL really son, consider growing up a bit, you're displaying your own weaknesses with each reply of this sort...as i said many times before, FREE entertainment~! it is funny that you clearly display your inability to ignore what is said here, and incapable of not going ever lower on the scale with each tantrum and insult... i will however, thank you again for the laughs! notice how i called you nothing ;) try it sometime, IF you dare lol and if not, all i can say is that that's is typical for you...try again...
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> name calling now?? where on earth is the maturity?? LOL really son, consider growing up a bit, you're displaying your own weaknesses with each reply of this sort...as i said many times before, FREE entertainment~! it is funny that you clearly display your inability to ignore what is said here, and incapable of not going ever lower on the scale with each tantrum and insult... i will however, thank you again for the laughs! notice how i called you nothing ;) try it sometime, IF you dare lol and if not, all i can say is that that's is typical for you...try again...
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Dec 11, 2014, 9:34:42 PM12/11/14
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Foolish people do that, mainly due to their aggravated Cognitive Dissonance and
their own sense of over-inflated self-importance when a challenge appears about
their own entrenched Beliefs of what is.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPVmMzZWRXcVZmeUE/view?usp=sharing
When is such a state of consciousness these people are attracted to the likes
of a Marman because there is a harmony and a synchronicity existing there
between the kind of thinking processes and belief systems at work.
I often wonder if they have ever read anything by Twitchell about human psychology and thinking and reasoning and the psychic affects from others.
If they read those parts he copied that actually do stand on their own, then
surely they have utterly failed to comprehend what Twitchell was "trying" to
share with them.
Marman would have to be operating at the opposite end of what Twitchell
was repeatedly suggesting in his lectures and early writings, eg LTG, a
version of Eckankar before all the mythology and hyperbole took over.
It is my opinion, if Twitchell was alive today in his 30s, he would be avoiding
both Eckankar as it is, Klemp especially, and Marman's interpretation of his
teachings like the plague.
But that's just me. Others will have very divergent opinions.
Peace!
Kinpa
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sorry but your logic is a fail, try again Sean lol, i DO enjoy the amusement however~! and i enjoy the way you continually repeat your immature demonstrations of name calling~!!! hilarious! the only proof here is that you can't possibly be the sharpest tool in the shed by the track you take....absolutely nothing new here, try again!
Kinpa
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On Thursday, December 11, 2014 9:34:42 PM UTC-5, Peetee Aitchei wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:44:46 UTC+11, Etznab wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:31:40 AM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> > > name calling now?? where on earth is the maturity?? LOL really son, consider growing up a bit, you're displaying your own weaknesses with each reply of this sort...as i said many times before, FREE entertainment~! it is funny that you clearly display your inability to ignore what is said here, and incapable of not going ever lower on the scale with each tantrum and insult... i will however, thank you again for the laughs! notice how i called you nothing ;) try it sometime, IF you dare lol and if not, all i can say is that that's is typical for you...try again...
> >
> > Strayed off topic from the beginning.
> >
> > Topic reads: More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
>
> It's called DISTRACTION and Emotional Baiting Eztnab.
>
> Foolish people do that, mainly due to their aggravated Cognitive Dissonance and
> their own sense of over-inflated self-importance when a challenge appears about
> their own entrenched Beliefs of what is.
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> On Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:44:46 UTC+11, Etznab wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:31:40 AM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> > > name calling now?? where on earth is the maturity?? LOL really son, consider growing up a bit, you're displaying your own weaknesses with each reply of this sort...as i said many times before, FREE entertainment~! it is funny that you clearly display your inability to ignore what is said here, and incapable of not going ever lower on the scale with each tantrum and insult... i will however, thank you again for the laughs! notice how i called you nothing ;) try it sometime, IF you dare lol and if not, all i can say is that that's is typical for you...try again...
> >
> > Strayed off topic from the beginning.
> >
> > Topic reads: More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
>
> It's called DISTRACTION and Emotional Baiting Eztnab.
>
> Foolish people do that, mainly due to their aggravated Cognitive Dissonance and
> their own sense of over-inflated self-importance when a challenge appears about
> their own entrenched Beliefs of what is.
opinions are quite like anal orifices...everyone has one! the silliest part is that the mental conditions you claim i have (and without having any degrees in psychology btw) seem to only be your own...feel free to keep trying if you must, but i notice an utter inability to ignore what i say, which only proves that it affects YOUR emotional states lol
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> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPVmMzZWRXcVZmeUE/view?usp=sharing
>
> When is such a state of consciousness these people are attracted to the likes
> of a Marman because there is a harmony and a synchronicity existing there
> between the kind of thinking processes and belief systems at work.
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>
> When is such a state of consciousness these people are attracted to the likes
> of a Marman because there is a harmony and a synchronicity existing there
> between the kind of thinking processes and belief systems at work.
honestly, i wonder if you are able to understand ANY thinking systems other than your own as it isn't at all obvious, but that is fine, i forgive you!
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> I often wonder if they have ever read anything by Twitchell about human psychology and thinking and reasoning and the psychic affects from others.
>
> If they read those parts he copied that actually do stand on their own, then
> surely they have utterly failed to comprehend what Twitchell was "trying" to
> share with them.
Now this is good, you have consistently called Twitchell a liar and a thief amongst other things, but now you turn tail and try to use him as a defense for yourself! what's the matter? scared of standing on your own? talking out of both sides of your mouth eh? interesting...keep trying Sean
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> Marman would have to be operating at the opposite end of what Twitchell
> was repeatedly suggesting in his lectures and early writings, eg LTG, a
> version of Eckankar before all the mythology and hyperbole took over.
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> was repeatedly suggesting in his lectures and early writings, eg LTG, a
> version of Eckankar before all the mythology and hyperbole took over.
Everyone is already aware that you do not like Mr. Marman much, but it is beginning to sound like a broken record, a bit of a bore. I'd expect something much more intellectually stimulating from one that makes accusations of other's mental states while implying that he towers so far over them, but once again, i find myself disappointed. My bad for expecting too much from you i suppose, but have no fear, i'll survive. ;)
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> It is my opinion, if Twitchell was alive today in his 30s, he would be avoiding
> both Eckankar as it is, Klemp especially, and Marman's interpretation of his
> teachings like the plague.
>
> But that's just me. Others will have very divergent opinions.
>
> Peace!
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> both Eckankar as it is, Klemp especially, and Marman's interpretation of his
> teachings like the plague.
>
> But that's just me. Others will have very divergent opinions.
>
> Peace!
do YOU feel any better yet? if not, do not be afraid to try again, i know that you are unable to leave it be!
Kinpa
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On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 8:02:58 AM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
Someone posts.
> your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
Kinpa comments.
Poster says something like "whatever"
Kinpa responds with the word headache.
"your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin.."
Oral sex.
Mental problems.
Headaches.
... these things are what Kinpa leveles at another because to him it is fun? A.R.E. for him is endless entertainment?
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Look into this mirror about you and the type of language spouted at others here. Keep in mind the other shit, etc. before this point in time.
"would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!"
Back to talking shit to other people ...
I think you forgot about something, Kinpa. You never expected for someone else to expose that what you call "fun" is like the literal "shit" you began laying here many months ago ... and you dancing with the toilet paper (so to speak) - "your" toilet paper - still stuck to your legs! This is the shit you call fun?
Keep your fun away from me :)
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On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 3:43:53 AM UTC, Etznab wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 8:02:58 AM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> > your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
>
> Someone posts.
> Kinpa comments.
> Poster says something like "whatever"
> Kinpa responds with the word headache.
>
> "your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin.."
>
> Crap.
> Oral sex.
> Mental problems.
> Headaches.
>
> ... these things are what Kinpa leveles at another because to him it is fun? A.R.E. for him is endless entertainment?
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> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 8:02:58 AM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> > your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin...
>
> Someone posts.
> Kinpa comments.
> Poster says something like "whatever"
> Kinpa responds with the word headache.
>
> "your own words make it very clear that you were! how is the headache? try some asprin.."
>
> Crap.
> Oral sex.
> Mental problems.
> Headaches.
>
> ... these things are what Kinpa leveles at another because to him it is fun? A.R.E. for him is endless entertainment?
Should it not be?
> ***
>
> Look into this mirror about you and the type of language spouted at others here. Keep in mind the other shit, etc. before this point in time.
What others? There are only two of you, and my language is again NOT illegal, nor are my opinions...I suggest that you get over yourself for a change
> "would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!"
I huess that you are offended by things I might have said?? Perhaps you need to go speak with a professional about that then....
> ***
>
> Back to talking shit to other people ...
>
> I think you forgot about something, Kinpa. You never expected for someone else to expose that what you call "fun" is like the literal "shit" you began laying here many months ago ... and you dancing with the toilet paper (so to speak) - "your" toilet paper - still stuck to your legs! This is the shit you call fun?
>
> Keep your fun away from me :)
Didn't I? I think you are over valuing your opinions whereas I simply find them to be irrelevant....You two keep on trying however, because it IS entrertaining, and if that bothers you, I suppose that is too bad, one can only blame themselves for continuing to read, since it is by no means forced upon you...
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On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 7:01:34 AM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
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> Note that this is the 12th December 2014 .... 7 MONTHS AGO
>
> Can anyone except you Etznab, see what that means?
>
> MATT SHARPE A CPL WEEKS AGO STARTED ACCUSING ME OF STALKING -- FAR OUT DELUSIONAL AND CONTINUOUS DENIAL SINCE SEPT 2014 !!!
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And I have the screenshots of your posts, now deleted, that contained several addresses and phoine numbers you attributed ownership of to me or my relatives! Therefore, you are proven wrong yet again....also, you have been accusing me of stalking you, so what is the big deal if I claim the same and show proof in a court of law? Am I to assume you have a problem with that idea???
> HE CANNOT CONTROL HIMSELF AND HE CANNOT STOP - WHAT DOES THAT TELL ANYONE WHO IS SANE AND BALANCED.
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I have proven otherwise multiple times by NOT posting for weeks or months at a time...care to try again? You seem to be getting extremely desperate...
> WHAT WOULD LONI OF THE LIGHT FORCE NETWORK THINK OF THIS IF SHE IT WAS GOING DOWN LIKE THIS???
>
> I MIGHT JUST EMAIL HER AGAIN AND LET HER KNOW - I THINK SHE DESERVES TO KNOW
> IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE SHE PROTECTS HERSELF FROM ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
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Oh look! There is the threat! The funniest thing about this threat is that you assume that none of those peopole come here and read what the two of you have been saying for quite some time now! Once again, you are BOTH hilarious!
Email her then! And I will make prophecy regarding that! She won't answer you, as has always been the case! That must really hurt your little feelings! Collateral damage? Seriously?? You had better work on finding any direct evidence in the first place, a thing that neither of you seem to be familiar with at all! You simply will NOT be able to draw conclusions about my so called guilt the way that you both try to use Paul Twitchell's plagiarisms as proofs that Rebazar Tarzs is fictional...just as you both seem to be unable to distinguish your personal opinions from facts, much less proofs.
As I have consistently told you, things do NOT work that way! And speaking of which, have you filed any charges yet??? I am STILL WAITING tough guy! You're real tough from behind a computer! You will have to try again there little man, you are simply unable to intimidate anyone this way....take off those rose colored glasses you view your own words through, despite the fact that delusions of grandeur ARE a symptom of Muchausen's Syndrome, you are not doing a very good job of proving that you don't have it, you have consistently proven that it is a distinct possibility.....but by all means, keep it coming!
> NOT MUCH ROPE LEFT MATE .... (that's a nice line by Kirpal Singh isn't it? )
Awww and you try to hide behind Kirpal Singh, isn't that cute...I bet you weren't happy to see Kirpal's words used openlyu as a blog at my site! That sort of destroys your claims as to how we are lying to people so as to get them to join Eckankar! As do our having available David Lane's and Ford Johnson's ebook versions of both anti-Eckankar books! Not to mention ALL of the other stuff....and that simple truth that neither of you are able to bear...that peoiple simply don't care if he plagiarised, and they knowing that, still join anyhow! Let me know if you need help dealing with that! And stop with the empty threats already, you aren't making yourself look very sane or balanced!
>
> Note that this is the 12th December 2014 .... 7 MONTHS AGO
>
> Can anyone except you Etznab, see what that means?
>
> MATT SHARPE A CPL WEEKS AGO STARTED ACCUSING ME OF STALKING -- FAR OUT DELUSIONAL AND CONTINUOUS DENIAL SINCE SEPT 2014 !!!
>------------------------------------------------------------
And I have the screenshots of your posts, now deleted, that contained several addresses and phoine numbers you attributed ownership of to me or my relatives! Therefore, you are proven wrong yet again....also, you have been accusing me of stalking you, so what is the big deal if I claim the same and show proof in a court of law? Am I to assume you have a problem with that idea???
> HE CANNOT CONTROL HIMSELF AND HE CANNOT STOP - WHAT DOES THAT TELL ANYONE WHO IS SANE AND BALANCED.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
I have proven otherwise multiple times by NOT posting for weeks or months at a time...care to try again? You seem to be getting extremely desperate...
> WHAT WOULD LONI OF THE LIGHT FORCE NETWORK THINK OF THIS IF SHE IT WAS GOING DOWN LIKE THIS???
>
> I MIGHT JUST EMAIL HER AGAIN AND LET HER KNOW - I THINK SHE DESERVES TO KNOW
> IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE SHE PROTECTS HERSELF FROM ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
>-----------------------------------------------------------
Oh look! There is the threat! The funniest thing about this threat is that you assume that none of those peopole come here and read what the two of you have been saying for quite some time now! Once again, you are BOTH hilarious!
Email her then! And I will make prophecy regarding that! She won't answer you, as has always been the case! That must really hurt your little feelings! Collateral damage? Seriously?? You had better work on finding any direct evidence in the first place, a thing that neither of you seem to be familiar with at all! You simply will NOT be able to draw conclusions about my so called guilt the way that you both try to use Paul Twitchell's plagiarisms as proofs that Rebazar Tarzs is fictional...just as you both seem to be unable to distinguish your personal opinions from facts, much less proofs.
As I have consistently told you, things do NOT work that way! And speaking of which, have you filed any charges yet??? I am STILL WAITING tough guy! You're real tough from behind a computer! You will have to try again there little man, you are simply unable to intimidate anyone this way....take off those rose colored glasses you view your own words through, despite the fact that delusions of grandeur ARE a symptom of Muchausen's Syndrome, you are not doing a very good job of proving that you don't have it, you have consistently proven that it is a distinct possibility.....but by all means, keep it coming!
> NOT MUCH ROPE LEFT MATE .... (that's a nice line by Kirpal Singh isn't it? )
Awww and you try to hide behind Kirpal Singh, isn't that cute...I bet you weren't happy to see Kirpal's words used openlyu as a blog at my site! That sort of destroys your claims as to how we are lying to people so as to get them to join Eckankar! As do our having available David Lane's and Ford Johnson's ebook versions of both anti-Eckankar books! Not to mention ALL of the other stuff....and that simple truth that neither of you are able to bear...that peoiple simply don't care if he plagiarised, and they knowing that, still join anyhow! Let me know if you need help dealing with that! And stop with the empty threats already, you aren't making yourself look very sane or balanced!
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RE: "Oh look! There is the threat!"
Where? I didn't see it .. must have been supersonic ... oops there's that noise again careful maddie.. been missing some files lately have you?! you really should delete your cache and history more often.. haven't you heard of CCleaner? 2.67Gb of temp files kinda slows things down LMAO~!
RE: "I bet you weren't happy to see Kirpal's words used openlyu as a blog at my site!"
(shrug) You lost your bet. Never saw nuffin' couldnt give flying fuck period~!
and what do you mean by "MY Site"? Oh precious..it's LONI's site pet, and you're her charity case.. LMAO~!
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On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 3:00:32 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 00:44:03 UTC+10, Kinpa wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 00:44:03 UTC+10, Kinpa wrote:
>
> RE: "..that contained several addresses and phoine numbers you attributed ownership of to me or my relatives!"
>
> So what? Is there something wrong with that? It certainly isn't illegal in any way! LOL~!
>
> RE: "And I have the screenshots of your posts, now deleted,..."
>
> Some posts were deleted - so what? Is there something wrong with that? It certainly isn't illegal in any way! I hope you don't run out of space on your hard drive saving all those screenshots. LOL~! But it's running a bit noisy lately .. not operating at %100 efficiency late that computer of your's is it .. LOL maybe you should get a tech to have a look at that ... wouldn't want to lose all those screenshots now would we? Or all those juicy pics in that special folder there maddie... LMAO~!
My computer is brand new actually, and I have several terrabytes of space, and is runs as silently as ever, but thanks for your concern! Is that all you have? I guess it is....typical... LOL
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Oh did you miss your comment above? Where is that email you threatened? Decided not to send one? LOL Yeah, I didn't see THAT coming from ten miles away!
> RE: "I bet you weren't happy to see Kirpal's words used openlyu as a blog at my site!"
>
> (shrug) You lost your bet. Never saw nuffin' couldnt give flying fuck period~!
Yes actually, you did, our site (like every other on the net) logs the IP of everyone who visits, regardles of whether or not they are a member of the site, and yours (or that of a neighbor) visits on a literally daily basis! Nice try but NO cigar!
> and what do you mean by "MY Site"? Oh precious..it's LONI's site pet, and you're her charity case.. LMAO~!
Did I stutter? Try reading it again! I am by no means a charity case, unless you have something with which to prove that claim, and, all that you know about the site is that she registered it, but that doesn't share the information of any others that might be invested into the site, but I guess you weren't intelligent enough to think of that one....Back to calling names? THAT is funny! It is a consistency that dates back years, and clearly shows that YOU are guilty of defaming whomever opposes you (hubris yet again) but you obviously need to feel as if you have mangered someone, but sadly, no,you have failed at that as well......and btw, I have no temp files, I choose not to keep those, but screenshots simply do not take up a lot of space, but they all DO fit on a flash drive that can be submitted to a court! Not a problem! Care to try again? You might consider NOT displaying your ignorance of such common subjects LOL....Have anymore names you feel the need to hurl my way??
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>
> LMAO~!
>
> Are you %100 sure or only %50 sure of that?
>
> New you claim ... so where did you steal it from?
Why would I ever have to steal a computer? You silly man, have you any proof of this new claim? No? Why am I not surprised?? LOL
>
> LMAO~!
>
> Are you %100 sure or only %50 sure of that?
>
> New you claim ... so where did you steal it from?
Why would I ever have to steal a computer? You silly man, have you any proof of this new claim? No? Why am I not surprised?? LOL
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> RE: "Where is that email you threatened? Decided not to send one?"
>
> There there pet, have a lay down. No one "threatened" anything - you're just a little fucked up atm, and well fucking insane basically .. and your head it just aint working right see ... so you kind imagine shit that doesn't actually happen .. LOL .. that and well you're still an IDIOT see. Too damned stupid for your own good. Like totally FUCKED UP! LMAO~!
Awww you're back to calling names yet again, that MUST mean you are feeling threatened...why? From not having any other angle to work? Or from having nothing to throw? And yet again, you have NO proof of a single thing you claim! Keep trying!
>
> RE: "Where is that email you threatened? Decided not to send one?"
>
> There there pet, have a lay down. No one "threatened" anything - you're just a little fucked up atm, and well fucking insane basically .. and your head it just aint working right see ... so you kind imagine shit that doesn't actually happen .. LOL .. that and well you're still an IDIOT see. Too damned stupid for your own good. Like totally FUCKED UP! LMAO~!
Awww you're back to calling names yet again, that MUST mean you are feeling threatened...why? From not having any other angle to work? Or from having nothing to throw? And yet again, you have NO proof of a single thing you claim! Keep trying!
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> re: "I have no temp files,"
>
> let me say this again -- over a decade ago i has an internet security business,
> consultant service, onsite servicing and via peer to peer; special software installations, I used to use the programs the FBI etc used to find kiddie porn and shit right ... and before that I was also selling computers, and setting up softeware and trainingn people how to use ... right .. are you following me yet possum ... and I am telling you I used to have to FIX computers wiht infections and malware and spyware and shit right ... and I'm telling you that YOU are an IDIOT maddie ... bye bye
Good for you, however, you STILL cannot peer into my computer, and IF you worked for/with the FBI, then WHY have you NOT contacted them concerning me? What ARE you so afraid of? If you are SO skilled with computers, why do you make claims that ANYONE can easily disprove? Why do you not list these files that you claim I have, a thing that IS actually defamation! Thanks once again for giving me more evidence! Copied and filed away! Have you looked at my screen shot folder yet? Why not? Oh, that's right, once again you are LYING! Hilarious....now run along and phone the American Embassy and file charges against me with the local FBI!
>
> re: "I have no temp files,"
>
> let me say this again -- over a decade ago i has an internet security business,
> consultant service, onsite servicing and via peer to peer; special software installations, I used to use the programs the FBI etc used to find kiddie porn and shit right ... and before that I was also selling computers, and setting up softeware and trainingn people how to use ... right .. are you following me yet possum ... and I am telling you I used to have to FIX computers wiht infections and malware and spyware and shit right ... and I'm telling you that YOU are an IDIOT maddie ... bye bye
Good for you, however, you STILL cannot peer into my computer, and IF you worked for/with the FBI, then WHY have you NOT contacted them concerning me? What ARE you so afraid of? If you are SO skilled with computers, why do you make claims that ANYONE can easily disprove? Why do you not list these files that you claim I have, a thing that IS actually defamation! Thanks once again for giving me more evidence! Copied and filed away! Have you looked at my screen shot folder yet? Why not? Oh, that's right, once again you are LYING! Hilarious....now run along and phone the American Embassy and file charges against me with the local FBI!
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On Sunday, December 7, 2014 at 1:41:20 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
What not to say as an Eck Arahata:
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
"... would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!"
Etznab
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On Sunday, December 7, 2014 at 1:41:20 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous/conversations/messages/3637
> would you like to see bat shit crazy?? LOL look in the mirror in a week....on the toilet you go again! enjoy the gift! when you begin shitting blood, go see a doctor ;) of course i am well aware that you will never admit such a thing in public, but you know damned well what happened the last time....enjoy yourself! it is 12/07/2014 so it is 12/08/2014 where you are, and so it begins! SO much fun you are! thank you once again, never a dull moment with your ranting and raving!
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Of Marman's Sycophants, one of the best our Kinpa is - fucked up all really they are. Mmmmmmm yes, Obi Etznab, padawan in the lava ended up. Hot hot, mmmmm.
Etznab
Nov 19, 2015, 8:44:50 PM11/19/15
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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 6:43:57 PM UTC-6, Kinpa wrote:
> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 12:16:04 AM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> > As I said in my previous response young richard....you seem to make the mistake that anyone is actually THAT concerned with you as to want to exercise any power trip upon you, and that is a delusion...however, it isn't my concern, but still, anyone who reads what you respond to me with cannot fail to notice that you certainly DO protest far too much about these particular words and that subject....why does this make you so angry? Most would just not care what anyone else says about them, but you appear to not have that ability...oh well, that is your concern, not mine...
>
> It is also worth noting that I never actually said that I would cause ANYTHING to happen to you, I merely said that certain things would happen,a very important distinction, so much so I find it strange that you failed to notice it...why is that? Sort of deflates the accusation of some sort of "power trip". Perhaps you would be better off devoting a greater degree of thought into these things before posting such things....
It is also worth noting you are on the defensive because I didn't enter this thread until later.
Why so defensive you are?
> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 12:16:04 AM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
>
> It is also worth noting that I never actually said that I would cause ANYTHING to happen to you, I merely said that certain things would happen,a very important distinction, so much so I find it strange that you failed to notice it...why is that? Sort of deflates the accusation of some sort of "power trip". Perhaps you would be better off devoting a greater degree of thought into these things before posting such things....
It is also worth noting you are on the defensive because I didn't enter this thread until later.
Why so defensive you are?
Henosis Sage
Nov 19, 2015, 9:06:45 PM11/19/15
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On Friday, 20 November 2015 12:44:50 UTC+11, Etznab wrote:
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> It is also worth noting you are on the defensive because I didn't enter this thread until later.
>
> Why so defensive you are?
Guilty because he is.
>
> It is also worth noting you are on the defensive because I didn't enter this thread until later.
>
> Why so defensive you are?
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On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
>
> from his Spiritual MONOLOGUE page:
> More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
>
> http://spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
>
> Sukhmani should be of particular interest to modern day followers of Eckankar,
> Sant Mat, and Radhasoami. The connection with Eckankar is especially strong.
>
> The Sukhmani opens with this line:
>
> Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad.
>
> This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru."
>
> Some translations spell it this way:
>
> Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad.
>
> The resemblance to Eckankar is no accident. Paul Twitchell derived the name
> for his modern teaching from this phrase. The connection goes deeper, as Guru
> Arjan was teaching what he knew of Eckankar, in his time.
>
> --- --- ---
>
> ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
>
> Search results for those "translations (that) spell it this way"
>
> https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Ekankar+Sat+Guru+Prasad%22
>
> FIVE (5) Hits ... ALL about MARMAN's own book
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Do you just make this tripe up as you go???? The link you provided has NO results at all, which proves you a liar, but if I google the phrase "Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad" I get a number of hits, first of all is Doug's book, the one in question on this thread, and that is the ONLY link that is his, the rest of the page are Sikh videos and websites....look for yourself:
https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2698861478625135:7463904445&ie=UTF-8&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.au%2Fwebhp%3Fsourceid%3Dchrome-instant%26ion%3D1%26espv%3D2%26ie%3DUTF-8%23q%3D%2522Ekankar%2BSat%2BGuru%2BPrasad%2522#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Ekankar%20Sat%20Guru%20Prasad
1. Sukhmani: The Secret of Inner Peace | Spiritual Dialogues
spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad. This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru." Some translations spell it this way: Ekankar Sat Guru ...
2. Mantra for Positivity: Ek Ong Kar Sat Gur Prasad - Spirit Voyage Blog
www.spiritvoyage.com/.../mantra-for-positivity-ek-ong-kar-sat-gur-prasad/
Feb 27, 2012 ... Mantra for Positivity: Ek Ong Kar Sat Gur Prasad ... First taught by Guru Nanak to his son Baba Siri Chand, a powerful yogi, it is said to contain ...
3.Magic Mantra-reverse negative to positive - Ek Ong Kar Satgur Pras ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2XkzZR4R0U
Oct 6, 2011 ... Ek Ong Kar Sat Guru Prasad Sat Guru Prasad Ek Ong Kar ... Es cantado generalmente al revés (Ek Ong Kar Sat Gur Prasad, Sat Gur Prasad Ek ...
4.Ek Ong Kar Sat Gur Prasad Mp3's and CD's with mantra meaning ...
www.spiritvoyage.com/mantra/Ek...Sat...Prasad/MAN-000028.aspx
Ek Ong Kar Sat Gur Prasad lyrics, mantra, pronunciation, music, There is one Creator of all ... Guru Nanak taught this mantra to his son, Baba Siri Chand.
5.Satguru Prasad Satsangi | LinkedIn
https://in.linkedin.com/pub/satguru-prasad-satsangi/31/ba4/31b ICICI PRUDENTIAL AMC LTD - Bareilly Area, India
View Satguru Prasad Satsangi's (India) professional profile on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is the world's largest business network, helping professionals like Satguru ...
6.Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad, Sat Guru Prasad Ek Onkar.
anandvoyage.blogspot.com/.../ek-onkar-sat-guru-prasad-sat-guru.html
Oct 12, 2013 ... This Mantra comes from the Sikh Gurmukhi Scriptures known as the Guru Granth Sahib. "Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad, Sat Guru Prasad Ek Onkar ...
7.God - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.
https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/God
Mar 3, 2012 ... Guru Arjan, Nanak V, says, "God is beyond colour and form, yet His presence is ... Guru Nanak prefixed the numeral one (ik) to it making it Ik Oankar or Ekankar to stress GOD's oneness. ... Timeless One, as in Akal Purakh or in the slogan Sat Sri Akal (Satya Sri Akal). ... Gur-prasad - With the Guru's blessing.
8.Mantras (Yoga de la Mente)
www.hispayoga.com/mantras.htm
"Dharti" significa tierra y "Akash" es Ether, y Guru Ram Das es el venerado cuarto Guru ... Normalmente se recita viceversa (Ek Ong Kar, Sat Gur Prasad, Sat Gur ...
9.Ek Onkar - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.
https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Ek_Onkar
Aug 4, 2014 ... This is the symbol that appears at the beginning of the Guru Granth ... By writing 1 (One) in the beginning, it has been shown that Ekankar, God, ...
10.El Rincón del Sadhu: MANTRAS
elrincondelsadhu.blogspot.com/p/mantras.html
Aad gure name, llugaad gure name, Sat gure name, siri guru de-ve name .... Anand Sahib -canción del éxtasis- y el mantra Ek Ong Kaar Satgur Prasad, el cual ...
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> ROTFLMFAO
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> Judas Priest!
>
> "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
> and conscientious stupidity."
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You've gotten that one right, but it need only be applied to yourself...
> - Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
> Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
> intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
> when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
>
> That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Manipulation? Seriously? Why not keep going and make up more fictions!
Why do you insist that he has no right to reinterpret anything? By what authority? Are you a Sikh? No? Then why do you make such a fuss? A majority of religions start with the reinterpretations of scriptures or words from a previous religion, and this has always happened around the globe, and in ALL ages...so why can't Doug do the same? Because YOU want to complain about it?
Perhaps you ought not to cry and complain so loudly, you are doing yourself no favors this way...
>
>
>
> Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
> deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
> it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
> spiritual & literary works of poetry.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Then why on earth are you complaining? Perhaps a wee bit jealous that he write books and that people actually read them and are interested in them enough to discuss the topics those books address?
> For example, MARMAN suggests that "Sukhmani" means "bringer of peace to
> the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
>
> Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
>
> "Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
>
> Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
>
> The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
>
> (shrug)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Okay,so we are back to the "Doug Marman has absolutely NO right to reinterpret any Sikh writings in any way other than the ones already interpreted and provided by the Sikh Gurus?? Unless you are yourself a practicing Sikh, you have literally NO excuse nor reason to make comment on the subject. If you were then your comments would be understandable to a degree, although that doesn't necessarily make your points correct or "right".
Perhaps you are not familiar with what Sikhism actually is (and for that matter Sant Mat) It is (they BOTH are) reinterpretations of Hinduism, as is Jainism and Buddhism...ALL four started from within Hinduism, then went on to reinterpret some of the philosophies while getting completely rid of others....this has been going on in India for thousands of years,so who are you to complain over anyone else doing the same, whether they are Paul Twitchell, Harold Klemp or Doug Marman? The fact that you so often voice these ridiculous and unfounded complaint about reinterpretations or "reformations" as they are called in Christianity shows that not only are you falsely taking up purposeful opposition to people and philosophies, the fact that you aren't even a member of any of the paths that were reinterpreted proves that you are creating a worthless complaint from literally nothing! Complaints that have NO basis or right to exist! Are you THAT hard up for attention that you need to continually mention the names of others (Twitchell, Klemp, Marman and myself)in an attempt to "steal their thunder?" To gain any degree of the attention that others might be giving to any of these individuals? Which excuse will you use THIS time???
> To find out more about the Sukhmani or Sikhism, go to a Sikh temple and
> ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
> Guru Nanak in 1500s.
>
> To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
> made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
> some MARMAN.
>
> Do not say you have not been warned. :)
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fair enough, however, the same goes for YOU! ;) "NO QUARTER!"
> --- --- ---
>
>
> More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
>
> Peace!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Meaning in another 5 minutes right??? Let us ponder another question that goes right to the heart of the matter....let us suppose that sean is right, and that his claim of the reinterpretations being wrongful and fake, or having no right to exist...would we not then need to apply the same standard all the way across the board? Eckankar has NO right to exist because it "stole" teachings from Sikhism, Sant Mat and Sufism....okay fine, BUT, if that is true, the same standard must then be applied to Sant Mat (regardless of which form one looks at, including its earliest form,the Naths)and Sikhism (as well as Jainism and Buddhism) that NONE of these has ANY right to exist, because they came about from the reinterpretation of some teachings, and the non inclusion of others.....that alone leaves Sant Mat and Sikhism with absolutely no right to exist at all, regardless of which Sant one might follow or be taught by, none can be any better than any other because the teachings are obviously false based on sean arundel's standards of what constitutes a false teaching....so why does sean arundel get to ALWAYS use a double standard on every single thing associated with Eckankar?? It must be because the truth hurts far too much to satisfy him, thus the endless lies and rants!
I notice one very common quality that he has been displaying on a daily basis, besides his racism, and that is an utter inability to accept that any other person's "truth" has any right to exist, and yet he expects everyone to allow him to have his own....yet another double standard, and one who lives by so many double standards can't possibly have any awareness of truth. It is just his personal illusion that he so desperately wants to force everyone else to accept....typical....hilarious~!
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On Saturday, 28 November 2015 15:23:11 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
> On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> > More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
> >
> > from his Spiritual MONOLOGUE page:
> > http://spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
> >
> > Sukhmani should be of particular interest to modern day followers of Eckankar,
> > Sant Mat, and Radhasoami. The connection with Eckankar is especially strong.
> >
> > The Sukhmani opens with this line:
> >
> > Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad.
> >
> > This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru."
> >
> > Some translations spell it this way:
> >
> > Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad.
> >
> > The resemblance to Eckankar is no accident. Paul Twitchell derived the name
> > for his modern teaching from this phrase. The connection goes deeper, as Guru
> > Arjan was teaching what he knew of Eckankar, in his time.
> >
> > --- --- ---
> >
> > ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
> >
> > Search results for those "translations (that) spell it this way"
> >
> > https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Ekankar+Sat+Guru+Prasad%22
> >
> > FIVE (5) Hits ... ALL about MARMAN's own book
> >
> On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> > More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
> >
> > from his Spiritual MONOLOGUE page:
> > http://spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
> >
> > Sukhmani should be of particular interest to modern day followers of Eckankar,
> > Sant Mat, and Radhasoami. The connection with Eckankar is especially strong.
> >
> > The Sukhmani opens with this line:
> >
> > Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad.
> >
> > This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru."
> >
> > Some translations spell it this way:
> >
> > Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad.
> >
> > The resemblance to Eckankar is no accident. Paul Twitchell derived the name
> > for his modern teaching from this phrase. The connection goes deeper, as Guru
> > Arjan was teaching what he knew of Eckankar, in his time.
> >
> > --- --- ---
> >
> > ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
> >
> > Search results for those "translations (that) spell it this way"
> >
> > https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Ekankar+Sat+Guru+Prasad%22
> >
> > FIVE (5) Hits ... ALL about MARMAN's own book
> >
> > ROTFLMFAO
> >
> > Judas Priest!
> >
> > "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
> > and conscientious stupidity."
> >
> >
> > Judas Priest!
> >
> > "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
> > and conscientious stupidity."
> >
> > - Martin Luther King, Jr.
> >
> > Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
> > intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
> > when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
> >
> > That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
> >
> > --- --- ---
> >
> > Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
> > intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
> > when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
> >
> > That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
> > deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
> > it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
> > spiritual & literary works of poetry.
> >
> >
> > Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
> > deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
> > it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
> > spiritual & literary works of poetry.
> >
> > For example, MARMAN suggests that "Sukhmani" means "bringer of peace to
> > the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
> >
> > Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
> >
> > "Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
> >
> > Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
> >
> > The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
> >
> > (shrug)
> >
> > the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
> >
> > Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
> >
> > "Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
> >
> > Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
> >
> > The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
> >
> > (shrug)
> >
> > To find out more about the Sukhmani or Sikhism, go to a Sikh temple and
> > ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
> > Guru Nanak in 1500s.
> >
> > To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
> > made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
> > some MARMAN.
> >
> > Do not say you have not been warned. :)
> >
> > ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
> > Guru Nanak in 1500s.
> >
> > To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
> > made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
> > some MARMAN.
> >
> > Do not say you have not been warned. :)
> >
> > --- --- ---
> >
> >
> > More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
> >
> > Peace!
>
> And still sean is far too afraid to answer any of my charges directly, instead going off in another direction by digging up posts that are YEARS old to try to give me hell about....not only is he afraid to answer these charges against Doug Marman when it is pointed out that Sikhism exists because of a reinterpretation of ideas, which supports Mr. Marman's right to put out the Sukhmani in the form it is and with his interpretations....the only fantasy that exists here is sean's claim that reinterpreting is wrong and is itself a fantasy!
> >
> >
> > More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
> >
> > Peace!
>
>
> And then there was his statement, now conveniently deleted of course, that the Master Discourse series 1 through 4 were all written by Paul Twitchell and edited after the fact by Harold Klemp, when the truth of the matter is that Paul Twitchell wrote only the first series before he translated.
>
> Sri Harold Klemp wrote the following three series all by himself. Therefore that makes sean's claim that the entire series was plagiarized, not only NOT researched in ANY way, but also a complete 100% LIE! BUSTED! you can try as often as you would like to bring up past posts by me, but the fact that they are all still there and haven't been deleted the way that you do to your own when you go off on a drunken rant and return the next day to see that you had gotten WAY out of hand, you move to cover your tracks! I on the other hand, so not regret saying a word of it, which is why they all are still there!
=== === === === ===
Let's have a peek back to here, which i intentionally ignored until I
felt like it.
RE: And still sean is far too afraid to answer any of my charges directly,
Blah blah what crap.
RE ....not only is he afraid to answer these charges against Doug Marman when it is pointed out that Sikhism exists because of a reinterpretation of ideas,
Blah blah irrelevant to what I said about Marman's distortions and ideas.
I do not have to explain that anymore than I al;reayd have.
I also do not care who doesn;t believe or agree with what I said.
RE: ... which supports Mr. Marman's right to put out the Sukhmani in the form it is and with his interpretations
Marman's "right" what "right" doe she have than any old goat does also have?
The issue is about the Interretations that he concluded .. especially the
intentional (and stupid) way that he twisted the story that it was the Sikhs
tryig to talk about ECKANKAR as oppposed it was TWITCHELL and MARMAN who have
erronesouly re-interpreted the Past.
Eckankar is not Sikhsim nor the other way around -- they are NOT the same thing.
RE: ....the only fantasy that exists here is sean's claim that reinterpreting is wrong and is itself a fantasy!
More STRAWMAN by a fool .. who cannot read or if he does he is LYING about what was actually said. SOP for Kinpa the Liar.
RE: And then there was his statement, now conveniently deleted of course, that the Master Discourse series 1 through 4 were all written by Paul Twitchell and edited after the fact by Harold Klemp,
Well yes they were, I saw it in the Astral Library -- isn't it OK to totally
reinterpret who got what from where and when???
Oh the one who speaks of double standards being BAD and WRONG only thinks so
when it is other who he thinks/imagines do it. This is stupidity.
RE: .... when the truth of the matter is that Paul Twitchell wrote only
the first series before he translated. "
YOU would not know. You cannot prove that one bit. You have no idea where
Klemp took bits from when he wrote up the last 3 discourses.
There's an arvive of twitchell's writings and you have no idea what is in it,
nor what Klemp does in his writings and sources.
KINPA is nothing but a believer ... me I;m a remote viewer and saw these things I speak of. How does that sit with folks? :-)
RE: "Sri Harold Klemp wrote the following three series all by himself."
If this is true then Prove it .. beyond just a Copyright notice in a booklet.
RE: "Therefore that makes sean's claim that the entire series was plagiarized, not only NOT researched in ANY way, but also a complete 100% LIE! BUSTED!"
Oh no, it;s NOT a lie because I really believe it due to my "remote viewing skills, it's recorded in the middle-Astral Library - Kinpa can go there and check.
RE: you can try as often as you would like to bring up past posts by me,
GREAT because this will continue to occur .... key ones are going into documents and occasionally I might toss few savoury pieces into the group.
NOW HEAR THIS HEAR THIS ONE AND ALL
KINPA STATING HE DOESN'T DELETE HIS POSTS -- OR GET STINKING DRUNK ....
Is this believable??? Is it credible ????
RE : "but the fact that they are all still there and haven't been deleted the way that you do to your own when you go off on a drunken rant and return the next day to see that you had gotten WAY out of hand, you move to cover your tracks! "
Oh really how nice ... Kinpa calls this "covering your tracks"
Kinpa is accusing me of being DRUNK yet again .....
KINPA SAYS RE: "I on the other hand, so not regret saying a word of it,
which is why they all are still there! "
Which is why they are ALL STILL THERE ..... ????
NO, they are not all still there --- so this was a LIE --- or Kinpa has for some reason .... such as REGRET and GUILT and EMBARRASSMENT .... now deleted over 50 in the last couple of days
Obviously .... Kinpa #1 talent is talking rubbish. His word cannot be trusted.
IMHO
Henosis Sage
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On Friday, 27 November 2015 14:13:10 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 2:09:02 AM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> > DON'T even bother trying sean....there is NO way out of that corner that you so willingly painted yourself into....you said the words, now pay the price for them, since YOU have now been caught myth-making....enjoy what you've created...I am!
>
> I notice that everyone but me is doing their very best to ignore the very good points I made on this thread....it appears that someone must be scared, attempting to bring up old things to distract the public that might be reading here..it is unfortunate that these people can never hope to get the reaction from me that they desire...none of it is illegal, and there will never be any police called and there especially wont ever be any FBI involved....tsk tsk tsk
----------
Getting back to these Nov 2015 posts as well .. as the timing now is perfect.
I like to leave things hanging for a while now and then. I work on my own timing not other peoples' it's called self-control not slavery or being bullied into doing things one doesn;t want to do, for whatever reasons.
This is about Marman's claims of the meaning of Ik Ong kar mantra and Eckankar
See above for the background
RE:
"Do you just make this tripe up as you go???? The link you provided has NO results at all, which proves you a liar........."
snipped rest of the rubbish.
I am no liar. The results are as I said they were ON Monday, December 1, 2014
It is not my responsibility to ensure others know how to do a proper search,
and a proper comparative search ..
Kinpa doesn't know what he is doing -- it is NOT what I did and said I did 14
months ago now. The only variation would be found in changes to Googles
results output. I cannot control that .. but Kinpa did NOT do a proper search
anyway .
RE:
He is not doing exact searches like I did.
RE:
....there is NO way out of that corner that you so willingly painted yourself into....you said the words, now pay the price for them, since YOU have now been caught myth-making....enjoy what you've created...I am!
More childish rubbish. I have not painted myself into a corner, in fact I am
still correct about this - its Kinpa who is wrong, but he cannot work that
out either.
There is NO price to pay. I re-run my searches and got almost the same results.
RE:
I notice that everyone but me is doing their very best to ignore the very good points I made on this thread
YES well the only person I see ignoring the obvious is Kinpa
RE:
....it appears that someone must be scared, attempting to bring up old things to distract the public that might be reading here
More paranoid delusional fantasies and myth making from Kinpa, that's all.
RE: ..it is unfortunate that these people can never hope to get the reaction from me that they desire
Bahwah ... no one cares are Kinpa, and no one likes him either, as he is
always such a control freak and one who never stops TALKING about HIMSELF
and how "grand" he is.
RE: ...none of it is illegal, and there will never be any police called
and there especially wont ever be any FBI involved....tsk tsk tsk
In Kinpa's dreams and his FAKE "remote viewing" talents, no where else.
Kinpa has no idea who is involved, who isn;t, who will be soon, nor what will come of it over time ... in the short and long term .... years out from today.
Frankly Kinpa (Matthew Sharpe) has no to little idea about anything.
He cannot even read what is actually written online .... nor what it means.
Cheers
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 2:09:02 AM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
>
> I notice that everyone but me is doing their very best to ignore the very good points I made on this thread....it appears that someone must be scared, attempting to bring up old things to distract the public that might be reading here..it is unfortunate that these people can never hope to get the reaction from me that they desire...none of it is illegal, and there will never be any police called and there especially wont ever be any FBI involved....tsk tsk tsk
----------
Getting back to these Nov 2015 posts as well .. as the timing now is perfect.
I like to leave things hanging for a while now and then. I work on my own timing not other peoples' it's called self-control not slavery or being bullied into doing things one doesn;t want to do, for whatever reasons.
This is about Marman's claims of the meaning of Ik Ong kar mantra and Eckankar
See above for the background
RE:
"Do you just make this tripe up as you go???? The link you provided has NO results at all, which proves you a liar........."
snipped rest of the rubbish.
I am no liar. The results are as I said they were ON Monday, December 1, 2014
It is not my responsibility to ensure others know how to do a proper search,
and a proper comparative search ..
Kinpa doesn't know what he is doing -- it is NOT what I did and said I did 14
months ago now. The only variation would be found in changes to Googles
results output. I cannot control that .. but Kinpa did NOT do a proper search
anyway .
RE:
Picture proof of the top 10 google search results for "Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad" being completely different than what you claimed they were:
NO< the links and screen shots shows Kinpa has it all wrong.
He is not doing exact searches like I did.
RE:
....there is NO way out of that corner that you so willingly painted yourself into....you said the words, now pay the price for them, since YOU have now been caught myth-making....enjoy what you've created...I am!
More childish rubbish. I have not painted myself into a corner, in fact I am
still correct about this - its Kinpa who is wrong, but he cannot work that
out either.
There is NO price to pay. I re-run my searches and got almost the same results.
RE:
I notice that everyone but me is doing their very best to ignore the very good points I made on this thread
YES well the only person I see ignoring the obvious is Kinpa
RE:
....it appears that someone must be scared, attempting to bring up old things to distract the public that might be reading here
More paranoid delusional fantasies and myth making from Kinpa, that's all.
RE: ..it is unfortunate that these people can never hope to get the reaction from me that they desire
Bahwah ... no one cares are Kinpa, and no one likes him either, as he is
always such a control freak and one who never stops TALKING about HIMSELF
and how "grand" he is.
RE: ...none of it is illegal, and there will never be any police called
and there especially wont ever be any FBI involved....tsk tsk tsk
In Kinpa's dreams and his FAKE "remote viewing" talents, no where else.
Kinpa has no idea who is involved, who isn;t, who will be soon, nor what will come of it over time ... in the short and long term .... years out from today.
Frankly Kinpa (Matthew Sharpe) has no to little idea about anything.
He cannot even read what is actually written online .... nor what it means.
Cheers
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 1:44:39 PM1/29/16
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KINPA, Google must have accidentally deleted three of your posts here.
But lucky for you, I had saved them already.
Here they are again ......
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Kinpa
25/11/2015
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 6:38:04 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:52:00 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> > On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> > > More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
> http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah6/Shabda12/4_zpsbt7jungg.jpg
DON'T even bother trying sean....there is NO way out of that corner that you so willingly painted yourself into....you said the words, now pay the price for them, since YOU have now been caught myth-making....enjoy what you've created...I am!
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On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 6:38:04 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:52:00 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
>=20
> http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah6/Shabda12/4_zpsbt7jungg.jpg
DON'T even bother trying sean....there is NO way out of that corner that yo=
u so willingly painted yourself into....you said the words, now pay the pri=
ce for them, since YOU have now been caught myth-making....enjoy what you'v=
e created...I am!
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!original/alt.religion.eckankar/tDgma7tfnH8/-WmTP47wAgAJ
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Kinpa
27/11/2015
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I notice that everyone but me is doing their very best to ignore the very good points I made on this thread....it appears that someone must be scared, attempting to bring up old things to distract the public that might be reading here..it is unfortunate that these people can never hope to get the reaction from me that they desire...none of it is illegal, and there will never be any police called and there especially wont ever be any FBI involved....tsk tsk tsk
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Subject: Re: More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
From: Kinpa <tsha...@yahoo.com>
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On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 2:09:02 AM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 6:38:04 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:52:00 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> > > On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> > > > More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
SNIPPED
> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 4:52:00 PM UTC, Kinpa wrote:
> > > On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> > > > More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
I notice that everyone but me is doing their very best to ignore the very g=
ood points I made on this thread....it appears that someone must be scared,=
attempting to bring up old things to distract the public that might be rea=
ding here..it is unfortunate that these people can never hope to get the re=
action from me that they desire...none of it is illegal, and there will nev=
er be any police called and there especially wont ever be any FBI involved.=
...tsk tsk tsk
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!original/alt.religion.eckankar/tDgma7tfnH8/goY1TDeRAwAJ
=====
Kinpa
28/11/2015
On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
>
> from his Spiritual MONOLOGUE page:
> http://spiritualdialogues.com/books/sukhmani-the-secret-of-inner-peace/
>
> Sukhmani should be of particular interest to modern day followers of Eckankar,
> Sant Mat, and Radhasoami. The connection with Eckankar is especially strong.
>
> The Sukhmani opens with this line:
>
> Ek Onkar Sat Guru Prasad.
>
> This means: "The One Reality - realized through the grace of the True Guru."
>
> Some translations spell it this way:
>
> Ekankar Sat Guru Prasad.
>
> The resemblance to Eckankar is no accident. Paul Twitchell derived the name
> for his modern teaching from this phrase. The connection goes deeper, as Guru
> Arjan was teaching what he knew of Eckankar, in his time.
>
> --- --- ---
>
> ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT
>
> Search results for those "translations (that) spell it this way"
>
> https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Ekankar+Sat+Guru+Prasad%22
>
> FIVE (5) Hits ... ALL about MARMAN's own book
>
> ROTFLMFAO
>
> Judas Priest!
>
> "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
> and conscientious stupidity."
>
>
> Judas Priest!
>
> "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance,
> and conscientious stupidity."
>
> - Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
> Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
> intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
> when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
>
> That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
>
> --- --- ---
>
> Of course the resemblance to Eckankar is no accident here, because MARMAN is
> intentionally manipulating the reader to IMAGINE THERE IS A CONNECTION .....
> when in fact there is NONE, except inside Marman's own head.
>
> That is where it begins, and that is where this bullshit needs to end.
>
>
>
> Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
> deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
> it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
> spiritual & literary works of poetry.
>
>
> Now, that being said, there is nothing wrong or out of place in someone
> deciding to pick up a good translation copy of the "Sukhmani", and reading
> it for oneself. World history and experience is replete with such superb
> spiritual & literary works of poetry.
>
> For example, MARMAN suggests that "Sukhmani" means "bringer of peace to
> the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
>
> Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
>
> "Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
>
> Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
>
> The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
>
> (shrug)
>
> the heart." Well anything that can do that has got to be good for a person.
>
> Other suggested meanings for the "Sukhmani Shahib" (the real term) are:
>
> "Dive deep into the lovely heart-rending meanings of Sukhmni Sahib Ji where interpretation of each Gurbani line revolves around the selfless actions of Gurus ..."
>
> Sukhmani: Peace of Mind, the Nectar of the Name of God.
>
> The word Sukhmani literally means Peace in your mind.
>
> (shrug)
>
> To find out more about the Sukhmani or Sikhism, go to a Sikh temple and
> ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
> Guru Nanak in 1500s.
>
> To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
> made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
> some MARMAN.
>
> Do not say you have not been warned. :)
>
> ask an expert. Read some books by expert teachers of the Path began by
> Guru Nanak in 1500s.
>
> To fill your head with garbage about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar and any
> made-up mythical connections back to Guru Nanak and the Sikh path, go read
> some MARMAN.
>
> Do not say you have not been warned. :)
>
> --- --- ---
>
>
> More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
>
> Peace!
>
>
> More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.
>
> Peace!
And still sean is far too afraid to answer any of my charges directly, instead going off in another direction by digging up posts that are YEARS old to try to give me hell about....not only is he afraid to answer these charges against Doug Marman when it is pointed out that Sikhism exists because of a reinterpretation of ideas, which supports Mr. Marman's right to put out the Sukhmani in the form it is and with his interpretations....the only fantasy that exists here is sean's claim that reinterpreting is wrong and is itself a fantasy!
And then there was his statement, now conveniently deleted of course, that the Master Discourse series 1 through 4 were all written by Paul Twitchell and edited after the fact by Harold Klemp, when the truth of the matter is that Paul Twitchell wrote only the first series before he translated.
Sri Harold Klemp wrote the following three series all by himself. Therefore that makes sean's claim that the entire series was plagiarized, not only NOT researched in ANY way, but also a complete 100% LIE! BUSTED! you can try as often as you would like to bring up past posts by me, but the fact that they are all still there and haven't been deleted the way that you do to your own when you go off on a drunken rant and return the next day to see that you had gotten WAY out of hand, you move to cover your tracks! I on the other hand, so not regret saying a word of it, which is why they all are still there!
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/tDgma7tfnH8/YGCcEJ7jAwAJ
And then there was his statement, now conveniently deleted of course, that the Master Discourse series 1 through 4 were all written by Paul Twitchell and edited after the fact by Harold Klemp, when the truth of the matter is that Paul Twitchell wrote only the first series before he translated.
Sri Harold Klemp wrote the following three series all by himself. Therefore that makes sean's claim that the entire series was plagiarized, not only NOT researched in ANY way, but also a complete 100% LIE! BUSTED! you can try as often as you would like to bring up past posts by me, but the fact that they are all still there and haven't been deleted the way that you do to your own when you go off on a drunken rant and return the next day to see that you had gotten WAY out of hand, you move to cover your tracks! I on the other hand, so not regret saying a word of it, which is why they all are still there!
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Subject: Re: More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
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On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:37:57 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> More Mythical Bullshit from Marman - The Sukhmani
> More on this and other Marman related fantasies at another time.=20
>=20
> Peace!
And still sean is far too afraid to answer any of my charges directly, inst=
ead going off in another direction by digging up posts that are YEARS old t=
o try to give me hell about....not only is he afraid to answer these charge=
s against Doug Marman when it is pointed out that Sikhism exists because of=
a reinterpretation of ideas, which supports Mr. Marman's right to put out =
the Sukhmani in the form it is and with his interpretations....the only fan=
tasy that exists here is sean's claim that reinterpreting is wrong and is i=
tself a fantasy!
And then there was his statement, now conveniently deleted of course, that =
the Master Discourse series 1 through 4 were all written by Paul Twitchell =
and edited after the fact by Harold Klemp, when the truth of the matter is =
that Paul Twitchell wrote only the first series before he translated.
Sri Harold Klemp wrote the following three series all by himself. Therefore=
that makes sean's claim that the entire series was plagiarized, not only N=
OT researched in ANY way, but also a complete 100% LIE! BUSTED! you can try=
as often as you would like to bring up past posts by me, but the fact that=
they are all still there and haven't been deleted the way that you do to y=
our own when you go off on a drunken rant and return the next day to see th=
at you had gotten WAY out of hand, you move to cover your tracks! I on the =
other hand, so not regret saying a word of it, which is why they all are st=
ill there!
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!original/alt.religion.eckankar/tDgma7tfnH8/YGCcEJ7jAwAJ
YOU ARE VERY WELCOME MY MASTER MY GURU
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