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Here we can see that sean arundel has a history of calling people the same names all of the time. a distinct pattern of behavior and internet stalking. If you are innocent, you can rest assured that sean the internet stalking troll will come along and START trouble with you....and it is funny how many times he accuses others of being sophists and stalkers...a VERY definitive pattern for him, not to mention that he has had a habit for years of pretending to report people to the FBI.
He also shows very clearly that he is NOT an American that can enjoy the protections of the constitution. The do not cover him at all in ANY way. In verbose pattern he likes to make himself see seen as an authority, but he is not an actual authority on anything, and is not an actual journalist nor a "master research journalist." ALL are lies of his
http://www.jwire.com.au/three-telling-factual-problems-with-4corners-stone-cold-justice-writes-tzvi-fleischer/
19 Responses to "Three telling factual problems with 4Corners' "Stone Cold Justice"...writes Tzvi Fleischer"
Otto Waldmann says:
February 25, 2014 7:55 am at 7:55 am
Our newly acquired friend, Sean Rundell, I'd even call him haver, a dedicated guardian of ethical values, an efusive and ALMOST persuasive mind changer, a conscience security valve and could go on endlessly but end we must reach with the almost unbearable attention the same pro bono lecturer in behaviour science fiction can focus on how Israeli occupation forces ( mind you they are occupying their OWN ancestral land !!!)are treating other people's children.
Terrible, some are not allowed to sleep at night regaining that precious energy they would use during the day as........instructed by WHOM !!!!
Because the little angels at five, let's say, could not distinguish between friend and foe unless a much better informed post five-yr-old, say member of the same family/tribe/mob "learns" them, it is mandadory that we seek the source of the innocent transgressions.
So, how about Sean, mate, friend, haver, you focus for a while on the very genessis of the problem, the genetically responsible people who put all kind of stuff in the precociuos cherubs hands and even more of the same stuff into their cute little heads.
Come back to us, Sean and digress a bit on how your palestians pals the symbols of innocence and humanity are breading problems, hate, conflict and, in between, children well asserved and adjusted to all of the above.
Give us a wake-up call again from our conscience slumber at any time. We not fussy.....
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Liat Nagar says:
February 19, 2014 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm
Dear Sean Arundell,
It seems you are speaking with two tongues, although most certainly you appear sincere with what you do have to say. I did not draw my comments on your original posting out of thin air. When you say, "Are you an Australian or an Israeli citizen? Think deeply then make an ethically sound, well-reasoned choice as to whose Values and Ethical norms you truly aspire to Tzvi Fleischer.", from my reading of those words you imply that Australian values and ethics are different, indeed superior, to those in Israel - hence my original comments.
You have no argument from me about the racist and cruel treatment of Australian aboriginal people, indeed I singled that out in my original response. I do have some knowledge of the history of Australia, and of Israel. I also have some knowledge of philosophy and the sometimes convoluted and forever circular discussion of morals and ethics - it's a huge discourse.
We were discussing the same page content; it's just that you and I chose different areas to focus on. You chose to focus on the purported situation reported in regard to the children and I chose to focus on the fact that a documentary had been put together using this kind of inflammatory material, without proper balance and context, to propagate the ongoing campaign against Israel. It's true that because that was my focus it would not be possible for anyone reading to see that I am totally against use and abuse of children for anything at all. I did not see the point of commenting on that, and other issues you discuss, from the vehicle of a sub-standard, sensationalist programme that misused facts by distortion - that creates a mire of confusion that is difficult to navigate without falling into arguments that don't ever connect as a result of that. Hence the need for thorough, fair research, presented as fully as possible.
You quote Swami Vivekananda: "It is good to be born a child, but bad to remain a child." I would argue with that in the light of a cold day: sometimes it is not even good to be born a child, for the quick pain and neglect that can follow. (Perhaps read William Blake's 'Songs of Innocence and Experience' in this regard.) I feel for the Palestinian children, some under five or six years old, who are allowed to roam free, or perhaps even incited to do so, unattended, without the protection of the adults in their family; roam free into 'trouble' areas where they can engage in throwing stones at others and practise this until older, until one day they are big enough to injure someone badly. I feel for the Palestinian children whose minds are poisoned by parents and the education system in the art of hating others, viz. Jews and Israelis. I feel for all children who are used too early to foster the political and religious biases of their parents, instead of being allowed to come to their own more mature views later on.
I find the likes of Ms Weiss dangerously fundamentalist, stone cold and intransigent; in their own way just as dangerous as extremists of other religions and/or ethnicity. I have no truck with them. When any one person becomes inhumane in the name of G-d, and feels righteous entitlement due to G-d, then that person is lost to the world and to their fellow creatures. Again, what I chose to concentrate on was the motivation behind the Four Corners documentary and the injustice of its presentation, and they used Ms Weiss effectively within that framework. I make no excuses for ignoring the more obvious, blatantly distressing content,in favour of the agenda behind it. For individuals, some politicians, and organisations all over the world are using and misusing whatever they can get their hands on to contribute to the demise of the State of Israel and this must be fought.
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Sean Arundell says:
February 18, 2014 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm
Dear Liat Nagar,
Hi, just to be sure we are on the same page together please remember the subject matter of this page: "Three telling factual problems with 4Corners' "Stone Cold Justice". OK, that is the context of to my comments. I was searching for the abc site to send the report to a friend, and this website page was top of the list, and I got distracted and suddenly motivated to speak out.
Also rest easy that this Four Corners report in no way has affected me as a piece of propaganda. My general views were already well informed, highly educated in the history about such matters. The ABC has not influenced one iota. I already knew of far worse cases of human rights abuses and injustices there. On both =sides, and between the Palestinian groups themselves. Nasty business all round. No clean hands there, except for the children's!
Adults all make their choices, but the children do not have such a privileged. I speak for those who have no voice, knowing nothing will come of it anyway.
I did not "give you" 'Australian society' as some kind of ideal group of people. No where did I say anything close to that. There is no need to exaggerate or put words into my mouth. That is unfair when it is not true.
Next, no where did I suggest that Australia is a place "where sophistry and disinformation do not exist" either. Because you are right that "nothing could be further from the truth." and I agree. How much time do you have to listen my complaints regarding such things in OZ?
Next Liat Nagar you say to me: "You speak of ethics - something I hold dear to my heart and incorporate within my intellect, not to mention my soul - and yet you do not go on to discuss the difference in behaving 'ethically' within a safe, secure society such as Australia, as averse to behaving 'ethically' within a society continually under threat...."
You're right. No I did not go on to discuss the difference. My comments were solely in reference to the subject matter and content in question, of the Four Corners documentary. In particular I spoke only to those specifics I was moved to speak on. You are creating a 'strawman' here by suggesting I "should" have gone on and on and on and addressed other aspects to the existence of Israel, it's security, and then lay out a lengthy explanation of plausible 'variations' of when ethics can be shaped to circumstances? Sorry, not going to do that.
If you wish to speak to that, and rationalize away the behavior of the Israeli Government, of armed soldiers dealing with 5 year olds 'accused' of throwing stones at cars, and the military judicial system and laws in the occupied territories and justify that 'ethically' then go ahead. If that is possible.
It has nothing to do with me nor my comments here. No one can criticize me nor guilt me into speaking to those issues if I do not choose to. If that is 'your' issue Liat Nagar, then speak up, for that is your your job not mine. I said what I had to say, and I have my personal reasons.
You go on to say "...I am not suggesting one should not, or cannot, behave ethically if one's life, or country, is under threat, however I am saying that the discussion of ethics goes to different places in different circumstances, posing different and difficult questions and answers. Let us not assume that the people of Australia are any different in real terms than peoples elsewhere."
Yes, let us not do that. I did not assume so. I spoke to the Values of, and not the individual people. We are all human. There is a line of where appropriate behaviors moves across into inappropriate behavior and cruelty. I care not if it is in Australia or elsewhere. The line is still a line and it is real. The same standards and yardsticks apply.
Did you know in 1918 in Australia that magistrates were giving 8 year old children 6 months hard labour on work gangs building railroads in the outback for being accused of stealing a goat? 2 months to a 6 year old?
Do you consider that acceptable under your 'ethical' values? How about if the elite of that day were intent on having all the aboriginal people removed from an area so they could run their cattle, and so they created a system of making fasle accusations against them for killing cattle and goats etc, in order to have them removed from the ancestral lands for monetary gain alone?
Does that sound right to you? The aboriginals fought back when they could and even killed some white people. Was that 'wrong' for them to do so? To protect their land and their families from outright theft? Right here in Australia mate!
In the newspapers it was deemed a 'security' issue for the white elites who had all the Law on their side. Sound familiar?
You mentioned 'security'. There is no security in life when the military can storm into peoples homes at 2am and drag children out of their bed, photograph them as if they are criminals and then note the bed in which they normally sleep.
The children here walk to school. But if they had to survive under the threat of being shot at by the clinically insane whilst walking past their homes, then that is no kind of security any human could endure for long.
For justice to be done it must apply to all equally and the very same standards must apply or that is not justice. That is oppression, tyranny and injustice. Since time immemorial human beings have rose up against such injustices. That is rational human behaviour. It's in all our DNA.
There would be no security for the farmers in my area if I could turn up at anytime with a piece of paper from Canberra stating I had a legal right to pitch my tent on their property and bring all my friends. It wouldn't take long for that farmers children to start throwing stones at my tent. I wouldn't blame them either. That is no way to live in peace and security with one's neighbours.
But of course then we have Ms Weiss in that abc report who invokes the highest and ultimate authority declaring their are no neighbours and no one else has any human rights. Therein lays the core of the problem here. The beginning and the end of it in one simple invalid myth that denies reality.
"It is good to be born a child, but bad to remain a child." Swami Vivekananda
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Lynne Newington says:
February 19, 2014 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm
I'm wondering if I'm on the right site here....words so famiiar elsewhere in todays climate.
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Richard Whittington says:
February 18, 2014 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm
Well,what can we say. If the ABC is incapable of accurate reporting on the activities of the Australian Navy,what chance is there of accurate,factual reporting of events and circumstances in Israel?
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Lynne Newington says:
February 20, 2014 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm
Great interview on BBC's Hardtalk this AM between the Palestinian Authority's chief negotiator Saeb Erakt and Stephen Sackur on talks over a Middle East settlement resuming in Paris, well worth listening too.
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Lynne Newington says:
February 17, 2014 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm
I'm glad you're addressing it.
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gabrielle gouch says:
February 17, 2014 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm
I agree the reporting was biased somewhat. It should have shown what those kids are taught in school.
I also agree that Israel is under threat. From his neighbours, from Iran but not from a five year old kid.
Except that this kid will grow up remembering the terror the Israeli soldiers inflicted on him. And that was clear in the video. The soldiers should have talked to his father but leave the kid alone. No stone thrown by a five year old can kill or even wound seriously.
Israel's existence is also under threat because the increase of the number of settlements (now dotted in many parts of the West Bank). Settlers are not compromising people. Unfortunately many Israelis and Diaspora Jews are behind them 100%.
The settler woman who proclaimed that God had given the Land to the Jews should have been asked whether she also believes that the Earth is flat as a pancake and if she travels far enough she will fall off.
Does she take antibiotics and has medical interventions or like my uncle rather dies than interfering with God's will.
Does she invoke a blind face only when is convenient? At least my uncle was a total believer and he would have never robbed another's person's land.
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Gil Solomon says:
February 19, 2014 6:56 am at 6:56 am
Gabrielle Gouch,
You say: "At least my uncle was a total believer and he would have never robbed another's person's land."
By this statement you indicate a person who has absolutely no knowledge of history. There never was a country called "Palestine". If there was, who were its rulers, what currency did they use, was it a Sharia state or democracy or a monarchy? The facts are that the Romans, when they conquered Israel (including Judea and Samaria) called the entire area Philistina so as to rub salt into the wounds of the defeated Jews by calling it after the Jews' mortal enemies the Philistines. Many decades later the name Philistina was anglicized to Palestine which ended up as being a geographical land mass finally administered by the British from 1914 to the 1947 Partition Plan.
Sorrry but you appear to be another brainwashed Jew who has fallen for the Arab propaganda.
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Liat Nagar says:
February 17, 2014 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm
I agree with you, Gil Solomon. When are we going to give ourselves permission to be hard-nosed when necessary in the pursuit of truthful context in order to expose Israel's circumstances, Israel's 'truth'?! When are we going to publicly face the hard issues and force others to confront them? I, too, am sick of the ongoing sensationalist reports that have only one thing in mind: the painting of Israel as the evil ogre and the Palestinians as poor victims awaiting their deliverance. Australia is also a democracy and yet we now have a federal government who makes no apologies for taking all kinds of decisions and actions without transparency to the public, without even discussion or explanation, and yet most don't say boo. Let the Australian journalists and do-gooders focus on their own backyard: on the ongoing plight of the Aboriginal people, on the inherent racism that shows its ugly face time and again,on the present government's decision-making and what it represents, on the complacent attitude existing that somehow this country is different and better. Let's have some documentaries on that.
And, Sean Arundell, please do not give us 'Australian society' as some kind of ideal group of people where sophistry and disinformation do not exist; nothing could be further from the truth. You speak of ethics - something I hold dear to my heart and incorporate within my intellect, not to mention my soul - and yet you do not go on to discuss the difference in behaving 'ethically' within a safe, secure society such as Australia, as averse to behaving 'ethically' within a society continually under threat. I am not suggesting one should not, or cannot, behave ethically if one's life, or country, is under threat, however I am saying that the discussion of ethics goes to different places in different circumstances, posing different and difficult questions and answers. Let us not assume that the people of Australia are any different in real terms than peoples elsewhere.
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alex pais says:
February 16, 2014 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm
Amazingly, the Four Courners ommited to mention, yet alone demonstrate, the burned marks on the palms of the Palestinian victims, the 5-year old kid included. Surely, warrants another special report. How about calling it "The Hot Pipes of Israel" or "The Scorched Hand Of Palestine? Beats the Aussie Navy's "crimes" anytime, and so much easier to prove.
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Gil Solomon says:
February 16, 2014 10:58 am at 10:58 am
The facts are that the Four Corners program, like many others in the past, are aired with periodic monotony in Australia. One can therefore only come to the conclusion that the usual complaint letters everyone is urged to write to the producers end up in the garbage, unread.
Recently the Chinese Government threatened various US media representatives with revocation of their press credentials for even daring to write mildly critical reports concerning the Chinese military posture in the South China Seas. These representatives waited with baited breath as to what would happen and uttered not a peep.
On the other hand, that insane democracy called Israel, time after time allows hostile reporters to enter unsupervised to make a "documentary" film. The powers that be in Israel seem oblivious to the propaganda effect of reporters and their camera crews entering the country and do not see fit to impose minders to chaperone them throughout their visit. Israel has proven again that it has no concept of Hasbara (pr).
In future, unless Australian correspondents and camera crews agree to submit to rigorous supervision during their stay, then it is my opinion that they should be barred from entry, their press credentials revoked on the spot and they should be sent packing back to Australia with their equipment confiscated and destroyed. This is the only way to get the message through loud and clear that these disgraceful so called "documentaries" will no longer be tolerated.
If readers disagree with me then so be it. I for one am sick of hearing about the kind of action I propose not being the "Jewish way."
Also, it is all well and good for the Israeli Embassy in Australia to "blast" the Four Corners program as was reported in the AJN (14/2), but when will they ever recommend something along the lines above to the authorities within Israel responsible for granting press credentials? Showing outrage and lamenting after the event will, as usual, prove nothing.
Finally, quoting what B'Tselem utters is farcical, even if it does comes down on Israel's side from time to time. On the whole this organisation rarely has Israeli interests in mind and is just another organisation trying to undermine Israel's standing at every opportunity. No doubt I will receive howls of protest for this comment also.
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Sean Arundell says:
February 16, 2014 10:48 am at 10:48 am
Therefore, the inaccuracy you point out is that this practice of placing human beings in outside cages in the snow did not refer only to Palestinians prisoners, and not only to Palestinian children, but to prisoners in general and child prisoners in general.
That the Israeli Government has now stopped this long term practice "under pressure from human rights groups, since it came to PUBLIC ATTENTION that this was IN FACT the practice in Israel. Namely that: "The office of Justice Minister Tzipi Livni confirmed the decision and said it came after Ms Livni became aware that it had been a longstanding practice and had included keeping Palestinian children in the cages during snowstorms."
The wording there says "included", it did not say ONLY. As such, that statement was and still is correct and 100% accurate. As confirmed by:
".. information from the Public Defender's Office about child prisoners being kept in cages did not refer specifically to Palestinians."
"This article was amended to reflect the fact that the now-halted practice of holding detainees in outdoor cages involved Israeli citizens and not necessarily Palestinians."
What does J-Wire have to say about this abominable practice of PLACING CHILD PRISONERS IN OUTDOOR CAGES AT NIGHT, INCLUDING WHEN IT IS SNOWING?
You say nothing Tzvi Fleischer. Not once in this article do you condemn this unholy practice outright. Not once do you condemne the Government of Israel for this inhumane practice.
Instead your article intimates that 'Hey, it it isn't that bad, they stopped doing it now.' and 'Hey, these reporters and the ABC especially are really bad because they didn;t 'fact check' enough it came across as was misleading to suggest the Israeli ONLY did this to Palestinian kiddies'? Their crime is one of poor reporting practices and possible a couple of minor errors.
Did you write this article while watching the distressed 5 year old boy being terrorized by Israeli soldiers Tzvi Fleischer? I do not think you did. You have no empathy nor normal human decency if you fail to see the real import of this report by Four Corners. Do you believe that it is acceptable human and government behaviour that this is a price that 5 year old CHILD has to pay for the actions of adults over 66 years long before he was born?
Nothing can ever justify nor rationalise such terror being consciously and systematically inflicted upon young children and families of any race, of any religion! It is inhumane and it is abhorrent. No excuses. None.
And yet in 2014 the Israeli Government had to be told by others first and be publicly exposed before they stopped it? (Well they say they stopped it, but have they?) Are you serious Tzvi Fleischer?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apologist
http://carm.org/dictionary-apologist
Ethics, sometimes known as philosophical ethics, ethical theory, moral theory, and moral philosophy, is a branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending and recommending concepts of right and wrong conduct, often addressing disputes of moral diversity.
The term ETHICS comes from the Greek word ethos, which means "character". The superfield within philosophy known as axiology includes both ethics and aesthetics and is unified by each sub-branch's concern with VALUE.
Philosophical ethics investigates what is the best way for humans to live, and what kinds of actions are right or wrong in particular circumstances.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) is a declaration adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 10 December 1948 (the very same year Israel unilaterally declared itself an independent nation state) says:
"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Australia played an important role in the development of the Universal Declaration. The President of the United Nations General Assembly in 1948 was then one Herbert Vere "H.V." Evatt (aka Doc Evatt), an Australian statesman of the highest order.
Are you an Australian or an Israeli citizen? Think deeply and then make an ethically sound, well reasoned choice as to whose Values and Ethical norms you truly aspire to Tzvi Fleischer. Live video recordings do not lie and distort the facts. People do. Governments do. Apologists for Israel's actions no matter those actions might be, do.
I believe that the inhumane, unjust actions and entrenched deceptions of the Israeli Governments over decades is a black stain on the soul of humanity. It will not stand.
Your article, in my opinion, is an extremely biased apologetics of unbridled spin. Far more biased and error laden than the ABC Four Corners program. Such sophistry and disinformation has no place in Australian society.
Please post my comments on this website in full.
Sean Arundell
NSW Australia
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Lynne Newington says:
February 17, 2014 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm
Why on earth did you think they wouldn't Sean, in fact we have a few black stains on the souls of humanity ourselves......
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Ben says:
February 16, 2014 9:56 am at 9:56 am
The long standing hasbara tactic of trying to explain away reality by picking at a small detail. Even the article does not deny that children were kept in cages, merely that the practice has been stopped. Whether it has been resumed is unclear.
The bigger truth is that this is a continuation of the policy going back to Herzel and Jabotinsky of displacing the Palestinians.
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February 16, 2014 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm
The only reason this is being published is so that you and other readers can know that we do not now your real name and that you are using an email address which bounces. We will accept NO further posts from you without proper ID and a legitimate email address
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Ben says:
February 16, 2014 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm
sorry Editors
I have posted with the same email address for several years and continue to use the same email.
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February 17, 2014 4:18 am at 4:18 am
That's true but you do not comply with our current policy. This is not your real name and we have to communicate this way as your emails get rejected
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gabrielle gouch says:
February 18, 2014 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm
Well admin, you know my full identity but you decided not to publish my comment. It does not fit with the right wing view.
May I point out that I know a number of Jews who see the situation like me. But you don't want to give us a voice.
I am not left wing or right wing, but I oppose the building of settlements and of extremists like that woman interviewed on Four Corners. And my comments explained why.
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bump - Yes they know my real name. I told them. By the time they get to work on
Monday, they may have a lot more information.
I strongly suggest and in fact I DEMAND that you cease and desist your ABUSE
immediately, publish a public apology to me personally and the RSS Group as a
whole to the RSS Group via David Lane email, and have all your posts here on
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This is a last and Final Notice to stop your vilification, your false
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"This is a last and Final Notice to stop your vilification, your false accusations, your persistent Defamation and Slander of my good self and my reputation, and your DAILY Cyberharrassment of me since early June 2013 across two Yahoo Forums immediately."
When will you learn? It's quite simple, really.
4 days later and you still refuse to see sense.
It's out of my hands now. <shrug>
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> When will you learn? It's quite simple, really.
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> > bump - Yes they know my real name. I told them. By the time they get to work on
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> > I strongly suggest and in fact I DEMAND that you cease and desist your ABUSE
> > immediately, publish a public apology to me personally and the RSS Group as a
> > whole to the RSS Group via David Lane email, and have all your posts here on
> > exsat deleted by Monday AM your time.
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> > This is a last and Final Notice to stop your vilification, your false
> > accusations, your persistent Defamation and Slander of my good self and my
> > reputation, and your DAILY Cyberharrassment of me since early June 2013 across
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> > Mr. Sean Arundell DOB 1957
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> > 2. DESCRIPTION OF YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > Yahoo! provides users with access to a rich collection of resources, including without limitation various communications tools, forums, shopping services, search services, personalized content and branded programming through its network of properties which may be accessed through any various medium or device now known or hereafter developed (the "Yahoo! Services"). You also understand and agree that the Yahoo! Services may include advertisements and that these advertisements are necessary for Yahoo! to provide the Yahoo! Services. You also understand and agree that the Yahoo! Services may include certain communications from Yahoo!, such as service announcements, administrative messages and the Yahoo! Newsletter, and that these communications are considered part of Yahoo! membership and you will not be able to opt out of receiving them. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, any new features that augment or enhance the current Yahoo! Services, including the release of new Yahoo! properties, shall be subject to the TOS. You understand and agree that the Yahoo! Services is provided "AS-IS" and that Yahoo! assumes no responsibility for the timeliness, deletion, mis-delivery or failure to store any user communications or personalization settings. You are responsible for obtaining access to the Yahoo! Services, and that access may involve third-party fees (such as Internet service provider or airtime charges). You are responsible for those fees, including those fees associated with the display or delivery of advertisements. In addition, you must provide and are responsible for all equipment necessary to access the Yahoo! Services.
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> > You understand that the technical processing and transmission of the Yahoo! Services, including your Content, may involve (a) transmissions over various networks; and (b) changes to conform and adapt to technical requirements of connecting networks or devices.
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> > Please be aware that Yahoo! has created certain areas on the Yahoo! Services that contain adult or mature content. You must be at least 18 years of age to access and view such areas.
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> > 3. YOUR REGISTRATION OBLIGATIONS
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> > In consideration of your use of the Yahoo! Services, you represent that you are of legal age to form a binding contract and are not a person barred from receiving the Yahoo! Services under the laws of the United States or other applicable jurisdiction. You also agree to: (a) provide true, accurate, current and complete information about yourself as prompted by the Yahoo! Service's registration form (the "Registration Data") and (b) maintain and promptly update the Registration Data to keep it true, accurate, current and complete. If you provide any information that is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, or Yahoo! has reasonable grounds to suspect that such information is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, Yahoo! has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Yahoo! Services (or any portion thereof). Yahoo! is concerned about the safety and privacy of all its users, particularly children. For this reason, parents of children under the age of 13 who wish to allow their children access to the Yahoo! Services must create a Yahoo! Family Account. When you create a Yahoo! Family Account and add your child to the account, you certify that you are at least 18 years old and that you are the legal guardian of the child/children listed on the Yahoo! Family Account. By adding a child to your Yahoo! Family Account, you also give your child permission to access many areas of the Yahoo! Services, including, email, message boards and instant messaging (among others). Please remember that the Yahoo! Services is designed to appeal to a broad audience. Accordingly, as the legal guardian, it is your responsibility to determine whether any of the Yahoo! Services areas and/or Content (as defined in Section 6 below) are appropriate for your child.
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> > 4. YAHOO! PRIVACY POLICY
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> > Registration Data and certain other information about you are subject to our applicable privacy policy. For more information, see the full Yahoo! Privacy Policy at http://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/, or if you came from Yahoo! Kids, then see our Yahoo! Kids Privacy Policy at http://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/kids. You understand that through your use of the Yahoo! Services you consent to the collection and use (as set forth in the applicable privacy policy) of this information, including the transfer of this information to the United States and/or other countries for storage, processing and use by Yahoo! and its affiliates.
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> > 5. MEMBER ACCOUNT, PASSWORD AND SECURITY
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> > You will receive a password and account designation upon completing the Yahoo! Service's registration process. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of the password and account and are fully responsible for all activities that occur under your password or account. You agree to (a) immediately notify Yahoo! of any unauthorized use of your password or account or any other breach of security, and (b) ensure that you exit from your account at the end of each session. Yahoo! cannot and will not be liable for any loss or damage arising from your failure to comply with this Section 5.
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> > 6. MEMBER CONDUCT
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> > You understand that all information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages, tags, or other materials ("Content"), whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, are the sole responsibility of the person from whom such Content originated. This means that you, and not Yahoo!, are entirely responsible for all Content that you upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available via the Yahoo! Services. Yahoo! does not control the Content posted via the Yahoo! Services and, as such, does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such Content. You understand that by using the Yahoo! Services, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Under no circumstances will Yahoo! be liable in any way for any Content, including, but not limited to, any errors or omissions in any Content, or any loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of the use of any Content posted, emailed, transmitted or otherwise made available via the Yahoo! Services.
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> > You agree to not use the Yahoo! Services to:
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> > a. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable;
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> > b. harm minors in any way;
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> > c. impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, a Yahoo! official, forum leader, guide or host, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;
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> > d. forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any Content transmitted through the Yahoo! Service;
> >
> > e. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any Content that you do not have a right to make available under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships (such as inside information, proprietary and confidential information learned or disclosed as part of employment relationships or under nondisclosure agreements);
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> > f. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights ("Rights") of any party;
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> > g. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation, except in those areas (such as shopping) that are designated for such purpose (please read our complete Spam Policy);
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> > h. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any material that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;
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> > i. disrupt the normal flow of dialogue, cause a screen to "scroll" faster than other users of the Yahoo! Services are able to type, or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users' ability to engage in real time exchanges;
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> > j. interfere with or disrupt the Yahoo! Services or servers or networks connected to the Yahoo! Services, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Yahoo! Services, including using any device, software or routine to bypass our robot exclusion headers;
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> > k. intentionally or unintentionally violate any applicable local, state, national or international law, including, but not limited to, regulations promulgated by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, any rules of any national or other securities exchange, including, without limitation, the New York Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange, or the NASDAQ, and any regulations having the force of law;
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> > l. provide material support or resources (or to conceal or disguise the nature, location, source, or ownership of material support or resources) to any organization(s) designated by the United States government as a foreign terrorist organization pursuant to section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act;
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> > m. "stalk" or otherwise harass another; and/or
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> > n. collect or store personal data about other users in connection with the prohibited conduct and activities set forth in paragraphs a through m above.
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> > You acknowledge that Yahoo! may or may not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo! and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to pre-screen, refuse, or remove any Content that is available via the Yahoo! Services. Without limiting the foregoing, Yahoo! and its designees shall have the right to remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such Content. In this regard, you acknowledge that you may not rely on any Content created by Yahoo! or submitted to Yahoo!, including without limitation information in Yahoo! Message Boards and in all other parts of the Yahoo! Services.
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> > You acknowledge, consent and agree that Yahoo! may access, preserve and disclose your account information and Content if required to do so by law or in a good faith belief that such access preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to: (i) comply with legal process; (ii) enforce the TOS; (iii) respond to claims that any Content violates the rights of third parties; (iv) respond to your requests for customer service; or (v) protect the rights, property or personal safety of Yahoo!, its users and the public.
> >
> > You understand that the Yahoo! Services and software embodied within the Yahoo! Services may include security components that permit digital materials to be protected, and that use of these materials is subject to usage rules set by Yahoo! and/or content providers who provide content to the Yahoo! Services. You may not attempt to override or circumvent any of the usage rules embedded into the Yahoo! Services. Any unauthorized reproduction, publication, further distribution or public exhibition of the materials provided on the Yahoo! Services, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited.
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> > 7. INTERSTATE NATURE OF COMMUNICATIONS ON YAHOO! NETWORK
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> > When you register with Yahoo!, you acknowledge that in using the Yahoo! Services to send electronic communications (including but not limited to email, search queries, sending messages to Yahoo! Chat or Yahoo! Groups, uploading photos and files to Flickr, and other Internet activities), you will be causing communications to be sent through Yahoo!'s computer networks, portions of which are located in California, Texas, Virginia, and other locations in the United States and portions of which are located abroad. As a result, and also as a result of Yahoo!'s network architecture and business practices and the nature of electronic communications, even communications that seem to be intrastate in nature can result in the transmission of interstate communications regardless of where you are physically located at the time of transmission. Accordingly, by agreeing to this TOS, you acknowledge that use of the service results in interstate data transmissions.
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> > 8. SPECIAL ADMONITIONS FOR INTERNATIONAL USE AND EXPORT AND IMPORT COMPLIANCE
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> > Recognizing the global nature of the Internet, you agree to comply with all local rules regarding online conduct and acceptable Content. Use of the Yahoo! Services and transfer, posting and uploading of software, technology, and other technical data via the Yahoo! Services may be subject to the export and import laws of the United States and other countries. You agree to comply with all applicable export and import laws and regulations, including without limitation the Export Administration Regulations (see http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/ear_data.html) and sanctions control programs of the United States (see http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Pages/Programs.aspx). In particular, you represent and warrant that you: (a) are not a prohibited party identified on any government export exclusion lists (see http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/liststocheck.htm) or a member of a government of any other export-prohibited countries as identified in applicable export and import laws and regulations; (b) will not transfer software, technology, and other technical data via the Yahoo! Services to export-prohibited parties or countries; (c) will not use the Yahoo! Services for military, nuclear, missile, chemical or biological weaponry end uses in violation of U.S. export laws; and (d) will not transfer, upload, or post via the Yahoo! Services any software, technology or other technical data in violation of U.S. or other applicable export or import laws.
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> > 9. CONTENT SUBMITTED OR MADE AVAILABLE FOR INCLUSION ON THE YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Yahoo! Services. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license(s), as applicable:
> >
> > a. With respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of Yahoo! Groups, the license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Yahoo! Services solely for the purposes of providing and promoting the specific Yahoo! Group to which such Content was submitted or made available. This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on the Yahoo! Services and will terminate at the time you remove or Yahoo! removes such Content from the Yahoo! Services.
> >
> > b. With respect to photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services other than Yahoo! Groups, the license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Yahoo! Services solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available. This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on the Yahoo! Services and will terminate at the time you remove or Yahoo! removes such Content from the Yahoo! Services.
> >
> > c. With respect to Content other than photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services other than Yahoo! Groups, the perpetual, irrevocable and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed.
> >
> > "Publicly accessible" areas of the Yahoo! Services are those areas of the Yahoo! network of properties that are intended by Yahoo! to be available to the general public. By way of example, publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services would include Yahoo! Message Boards and portions of Yahoo! Groups and Flickr that are open to both members and visitors. However, publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services would not include portions of Yahoo! Groups that are limited to members, Yahoo! services intended for private communication such as Yahoo! Mail or Yahoo! Messenger, or areas off of the Yahoo! network of properties such as portions of World Wide Web sites that are accessible via hypertext or other links but are not hosted or served by Yahoo!.
> >
> > 10. CONTRIBUTIONS TO YAHOO!
> >
> > By submitting ideas, suggestions, documents, and/or proposals ("Contributions") to Yahoo! through its suggestion or feedback webpages, you acknowledge and agree that: (a) your Contributions do not contain confidential or proprietary information; (b) Yahoo! is not under any obligation of confidentiality, express or implied, with respect to the Contributions; (c) Yahoo! shall be entitled to use or disclose (or choose not to use or disclose) such Contributions for any purpose, in any way, in any media worldwide; (d) Yahoo! may have something similar to the Contributions already under consideration or in development; (e) your Contributions automatically become the property of Yahoo! without any obligation of Yahoo! to you; and (f) you are not entitled to any compensation or reimbursement of any kind from Yahoo! under any circumstances.
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> > 11. INDEMNITY
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> > You agree to indemnify and hold Yahoo! and its subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, employees, partners and licensors harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable attorneys' fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of Content you submit, post, transmit, modify or otherwise make available through the Yahoo! Services, your use of the Yahoo! Services, your connection to the Yahoo! Services, your violation of the TOS, or your violation of any rights of another.
> >
> > 12. NO COMMERCIAL REUSE OF YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, trade, resell or exploit for any commercial purposes, any portion or use of, or access to, the Yahoo! Services (including Content, advertisements, Software and your Yahoo! ID).
> >
> > 13. GENERAL PRACTICES REGARDING USE AND STORAGE
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> > You acknowledge that Yahoo! may establish general practices and limits concerning use of the Yahoo! Services, including without limitation the maximum number of days that email messages, message board postings or other uploaded Content will be retained by the Yahoo! Services, the maximum number of email messages that may be sent from or received by an account on the Yahoo! Services, the maximum size of any email message that may be sent from or received by an account on the Yahoo! Services, the maximum disk space that will be allotted on Yahoo!'s servers on your behalf, and the maximum number of times (and the maximum duration for which) you may access the Yahoo! Services in a given period of time. You agree that Yahoo! has no responsibility or liability for the deletion or failure to store any messages and other communications or other Content maintained or transmitted by the Yahoo! Services. You acknowledge that Yahoo! reserves the right to log off accounts that are inactive for an extended period of time. You further acknowledge that Yahoo! reserves the right to modify these general practices and limits from time to time.
> >
> > Yahoo! Messenger, including any web-based versions, will allow you and the people with whom you communicate to save your conversations in your Yahoo! accounts located on Yahoo! servers. This means you can access and search your message history from any computer with access to the internet. Whether or not you use this feature, other users may choose to use it to save conversations with you in their account on Yahoo! too. Your agreement to this TOS constitutes your consent to allow Yahoo! to store these communications on its servers.
> >
> > 14. MODIFICATIONS TO YAHOO! SERVICES
> >
> > Yahoo! reserves the right at any time and from time to time to modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Yahoo! Services (or any part thereof) with or without notice. You agree that Yahoo! shall not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Yahoo! Services (or any part thereof).
> >
> > 15. TERMINATION
> >
> > You may terminate your Yahoo! account, any associated email address and access to the Yahoo! Services by submitting such termination request to Yahoo!.
> >
> > You agree that Yahoo! may, without prior notice, immediately terminate, limit your access to or suspend your Yahoo! account, any associated email address, and access to the Yahoo! Services. Cause for such termination, limitation of access or suspension shall include, but not be limited to, (a) breaches or violations of the TOS or other incorporated agreements or guidelines, (b)requests by law enforcement or other government agencies, (c) discontinuance or material modification to the Yahoo! Services (or any part thereof), (d) unexpected technical or security issues or problems, (e) extended periods of inactivity, (f) engagement by you in fraudulent or illegal activities, and/or (g) nonpayment of any fees owed by you in connection with the Yahoo! Services. Further, you agree that all terminations, limitations of access and suspensions for cause shall be made in Yahoo!'s sole discretion and that Yahoo! shall not be liable to you or any third party for any termination of your account, any associated email address, or access to the Yahoo! Services.
> >
> > Termination of your Yahoo! account includes any or all of the following: (a) removal of access to all or part of the offerings within the Yahoo! Services, (b) deletion of your password and all related information, files and content associated with or inside your account (or any part thereof), and (c) barring of further use of all or part of the Yahoo! Services.
> >
> > 16. DEALINGS WITH ADVERTISERS
> >
> > Your correspondence or business dealings with, or participation in promotions of, advertisers found on or through the Yahoo! Services, including payment and delivery of related goods or services, and any other terms, conditions, warranties or representations associated with such dealings, are solely between you and such advertiser. You agree that Yahoo! shall not be responsible or liable for any loss or damage of any sort incurred as the result of any such dealings or as the result of the presence of such advertisers on the Yahoo! Services.
> >
> > 17. LINKS
> >
> > The Yahoo! Services may provide, or third parties may provide, links to other World Wide Web sites or resources. You acknowledge and agree that Yahoo! is not responsible for the availability of such external sites or resources, and does not endorse and is not responsible or liable for any Content, advertising, products or other materials on or available from such sites or resources. You further acknowledge and agree that Yahoo! shall not be responsible or liable, directly or indirectly, for any damage or loss caused or alleged to be caused by or in connection with use of or reliance on any such Content, goods or services available on or through any such site or resource.
> >
> > 18. YAHOO!'S PROPRIETARY RIGHTS
> >
> > You acknowledge and agree that the Yahoo! Services and any necessary software used in connection with the Yahoo! Services ("Software") contain proprietary and confidential information that is protected by applicable intellectual property and other laws. You further acknowledge and agree that Content contained in advertisements or information presented to you through the Yahoo! Services or by advertisers is protected by copyrights, trademarks, service marks, patents or other proprietary rights and laws. Except as expressly permitted by applicable law or as authorized by Yahoo! or the applicable licensor (such as an advertiser), you agree not to modify, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute, transmit, broadcast, publicly perform or create derivative works based on the Yahoo! Services, such Content or the Software, in whole or in part.
> >
> > Yahoo! grants you a personal, non-transferable and non-exclusive right and license to use the object code of its Software on a single computer; provided that you do not (and do not allow any third party to) copy, modify, create a derivative work from, reverse engineer, reverse assemble or otherwise attempt to discover any source code, sell, assign, sublicense, grant a security interest in or otherwise transfer any right in the Software. You agree not to modify the Software in any manner or form, nor to use modified versions of the Software, including (without limitation) for the purpose of obtaining unauthorized access to the Yahoo! Services. You agree not to access the Yahoo! Services by any means other than through the interface that is provided by Yahoo! for use in accessing the Yahoo! Services.
> >
> > 19. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
> >
> > YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT:
> >
> > a. YOUR USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES AND SOFTWARE ARE AT YOUR SOLE RISK. THE YAHOO! SERVICES AND SOFTWARE ARE PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS. YAHOO AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF TITLE, MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.
> >
> > b. YAHOO! AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS MAKE NO WARRANTY THAT (i) THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS; (ii) THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE OR ERROR-FREE; (iii) THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL BE ACCURATE OR RELIABLE; (iv) THE QUALITY OF ANY PRODUCTS, SERVICES, INFORMATION OR OTHER MATERIAL PURCHASED OR OBTAINED BY YOU THROUGH THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS; AND (v) ANY ERRORS IN THE SOFTWARE WILL BE CORRECTED.
> >
> > c. ANY MATERIAL DOWNLOADED OR OTHERWISE OBTAINED THROUGH THE USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE IS ACCESSED AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION AND RISK, AND YOU WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR AND HEREBY WAIVE ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AND CAUSES OF ACTION WITH RESPECT TO ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM, INTERNET ACCESS, DOWNLOAD OR DISPLAY DEVICE, OR LOSS OF DATA THAT RESULTS FROM THE DOWNLOAD OF ANY SUCH MATERIAL.
> >
> > d. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM YAHOO! OR THROUGH OR FROM THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THE TOS.
> >
> > e. A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF USERS MAY EXPERIENCE EPILEPTIC SEIZURES WHEN EXPOSED TO CERTAIN LIGHT PATTERNS OR BACKGROUNDS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN OR WHILE USING THE YAHOO! SERVICE. CERTAIN CONDITIONS MAY INDUCE PREVIOUSLY UNDETECTED EPILEPTIC SYMPTOMS EVEN IN USERS WHO HAVE NO HISTORY OF PRIOR SEIZURES OR EPILEPSY. IF YOU, OR ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY, HAVE AN EPILEPTIC CONDITION, CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN PRIOR TO USING THE YAHOO! SERVICE. IMMEDIATELY DISCONTINUE USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES AND CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN IF YOU EXPERIENCE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING SYMPTOMS WHILE USING THE YAHOO! SERVICE: DIZZINESS, ALTERED VISION, EYE OR MUSCLE TWITCHES, LOSS OF AWARENESS, DISORIENTATION, ANY INVOLUNTARY MOVEMENT, OR CONVULSIONS.
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> > 20. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
> >
> > YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT YAHOO! AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY PUNITIVE, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF YAHOO! HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (a) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE YAHOO! SERVICE; (b) THE COST OF PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS AND SERVICES; (c) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (d) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE YAHOO! SERVICE; OR (e) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE YAHOO! SERVICE.
> >
> > 21. EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS
> >
> > SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN WARRANTIES OR THE LIMITATION OR EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES. ACCORDINGLY, SOME OF THE ABOVE LIMITATIONS OF SECTIONS 19 AND 20 MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.
> >
> > 22. SPECIAL ADMONITION FOR YAHOO! SERVICES RELATING TO FINANCIAL MATTERS
> >
> > If you intend to create or join any service, receive or request any news, messages, alerts or other information from the Yahoo! Services concerning companies, stock quotes, investments or securities, please read the above Sections 19 and 20 again. They go doubly for you. In addition, for this type of information particularly, the phrase "Let the investor beware" is apt. The Yahoo! Services is provided for informational purposes only, and no Content included in the Yahoo! Services is intended for trading or investing purposes. Yahoo! and its licensors shall not be responsible or liable for the accuracy, usefulness or availability of any information transmitted or made available via the Yahoo! Services, and shall not be responsible or liable for any trading or investment decisions based on such information.
> >
> > 23. NO THIRD-PARTY BENEFICIARIES
> >
> > You agree that, except as otherwise expressly provided in this TOS, there shall be no third-party beneficiaries to this agreement.
> >
> > 24. NOTICE
> >
> > Yahoo! may provide you with notices, including those regarding changes to the TOS, including by but not limited to email, regular mail, SMS, MMS, text message, postings on the Yahoo! Services, or other reasonable means now known or hereafter developed. Such notices may not be received if you violate this TOS by accessing the Yahoo! Services in an unauthorized manner. Your agreement to this TOS constitutes your agreement that you are deemed to have received any and all notices that would have been delivered had you accessed the Yahoo! Services in an authorized manner.
> >
> > 25. TRADEMARK INFORMATION
> >
> > You agree that all of Yahoo!'s trademarks, trade names, service marks and other Yahoo! logos and brand features, and product and service names are trademarks and the property of Yahoo! Inc. (the "Yahoo! Marks"). Without Yahoo!'s prior permission, you agree not to display or use in any manner the Yahoo! Marks.
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> > 26. NOTICE AND PROCEDURE FOR MAKING CLAIMS OF COPYRIGHT OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY INFRINGEMENT
> >
> > Yahoo! respects the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users to do the same. Yahoo! may, in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, disable and/or terminate the accounts of users who may be repeat infringers. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please provide Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent the following information:
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> > a. an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest;
> >
> > b. a description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;
> >
> > c. a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site;
> >
> > d. your address, telephone number, and email address;
> >
> > e. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
> >
> > f. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner's behalf.
> >
> > Yahoo!'s Agent for Notice of claims of copyright or other intellectual property infringement can be reached as follows:
> >
> > By mail:
> > Copyright Agent
> > c/o Yahoo! Inc.
> > 701 First Avenue
> > Sunnyvale, CA 94089
> >
> > By phone: (408) 349-5080
> > By fax: (408) 349-7821
> >
> > By email: copyright@
> >
> > 27. CLOSED CAPTIONING
> >
> > Yahoo! complies with applicable Federal Communications Commission rules and regulations regarding the closed captioning of video content. Please visit info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/cc/en-us/ for more information or to register any concerns or complaints regarding video content accessible on the Yahoo! network of properties.
> >
> > 28. GENERAL INFORMATION
> >
> > Entire Agreement. The TOS constitutes the entire agreement between you and Yahoo! and governs your use of the Yahoo! Services, superseding any prior version of this TOS between you and Yahoo! with respect to the Yahoo! Services. You also may be subject to additional terms and conditions that may apply when you use or purchase certain other Yahoo! services, affiliate services, third-party content or third-party software.
> >
> > Choice of Law and Forum. You and Yahoo! each agree that the TOS and the relationship between the parties shall be governed by the laws of the State of California without regard to its conflict of law provisions and that any and all claims, causes of action or disputes (regardless of theory) arising out of or relating to the TOS, or the relationship between you and Yahoo!, shall be brought exclusively in the courts located in the county of Santa Clara, California or the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. You and Yahoo! agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of the courts located within the county of Santa Clara, California or the Northern District of California, and agree to waive any and all objections to the exercise of jurisdiction over the parties by such courts and to venue in such courts.
> >
> > Waiver and Severability of Terms. The failure of Yahoo! to exercise or enforce any right or provision of the TOS shall not constitute a waiver of such right or provision. If any provision of the TOS is found by a court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the parties nevertheless agree that the court should endeavor to give effect to the parties' intentions as reflected in the provision, and the other provisions of the TOS remain in full force and effect.
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And now richard mccormick is trapped WITH sean arundel! Forget civil court "tough guys"
HOWEVER, I would like to wish you BOTH, All Divine Love and Light as well as Perfect Health, in the name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta!
He also shows very clearly that he is NOT an American that can enjoy the protections of the constitution. The do not cover him at all in ANY way. In verbose pattern he likes to make himself see seen as an authority, but he is not an actual authority on anything, and is not an actual journalist nor a "master research journalist." ALL are lies of his
http://www.jwire.com.au/three-telling-factual-problems-with-4corners-stone-cold-justice-writes-tzvi-fleischer/
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Otto Waldmann says:
February 25, 2014 7:55 am at 7:55 am
Our newly acquired friend, Sean Rundell, I'd even call him haver, a dedicated guardian of ethical values, an efusive and ALMOST persuasive mind changer, a conscience security valve and could go on endlessly but end we must reach with the almost unbearable attention the same pro bono lecturer in behaviour science fiction can focus on how Israeli occupation forces ( mind you they are occupying their OWN ancestral land !!!)are treating other people's children.
Terrible, some are not allowed to sleep at night regaining that precious energy they would use during the day as........instructed by WHOM !!!!
Because the little angels at five, let's say, could not distinguish between friend and foe unless a much better informed post five-yr-old, say member of the same family/tribe/mob "learns" them, it is mandadory that we seek the source of the innocent transgressions.
So, how about Sean, mate, friend, haver, you focus for a while on the very genessis of the problem, the genetically responsible people who put all kind of stuff in the precociuos cherubs hands and even more of the same stuff into their cute little heads.
Come back to us, Sean and digress a bit on how your palestians pals the symbols of innocence and humanity are breading problems, hate, conflict and, in between, children well asserved and adjusted to all of the above.
Give us a wake-up call again from our conscience slumber at any time. We not fussy.....
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Liat Nagar says:
February 19, 2014 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm
Dear Sean Arundell,
It seems you are speaking with two tongues, although most certainly you appear sincere with what you do have to say. I did not draw my comments on your original posting out of thin air. When you say, "Are you an Australian or an Israeli citizen? Think deeply then make an ethically sound, well-reasoned choice as to whose Values and Ethical norms you truly aspire to Tzvi Fleischer.", from my reading of those words you imply that Australian values and ethics are different, indeed superior, to those in Israel - hence my original comments.
You have no argument from me about the racist and cruel treatment of Australian aboriginal people, indeed I singled that out in my original response. I do have some knowledge of the history of Australia, and of Israel. I also have some knowledge of philosophy and the sometimes convoluted and forever circular discussion of morals and ethics - it's a huge discourse.
We were discussing the same page content; it's just that you and I chose different areas to focus on. You chose to focus on the purported situation reported in regard to the children and I chose to focus on the fact that a documentary had been put together using this kind of inflammatory material, without proper balance and context, to propagate the ongoing campaign against Israel. It's true that because that was my focus it would not be possible for anyone reading to see that I am totally against use and abuse of children for anything at all. I did not see the point of commenting on that, and other issues you discuss, from the vehicle of a sub-standard, sensationalist programme that misused facts by distortion - that creates a mire of confusion that is difficult to navigate without falling into arguments that don't ever connect as a result of that. Hence the need for thorough, fair research, presented as fully as possible.
You quote Swami Vivekananda: "It is good to be born a child, but bad to remain a child." I would argue with that in the light of a cold day: sometimes it is not even good to be born a child, for the quick pain and neglect that can follow. (Perhaps read William Blake's 'Songs of Innocence and Experience' in this regard.) I feel for the Palestinian children, some under five or six years old, who are allowed to roam free, or perhaps even incited to do so, unattended, without the protection of the adults in their family; roam free into 'trouble' areas where they can engage in throwing stones at others and practise this until older, until one day they are big enough to injure someone badly. I feel for the Palestinian children whose minds are poisoned by parents and the education system in the art of hating others, viz. Jews and Israelis. I feel for all children who are used too early to foster the political and religious biases of their parents, instead of being allowed to come to their own more mature views later on.
I find the likes of Ms Weiss dangerously fundamentalist, stone cold and intransigent; in their own way just as dangerous as extremists of other religions and/or ethnicity. I have no truck with them. When any one person becomes inhumane in the name of G-d, and feels righteous entitlement due to G-d, then that person is lost to the world and to their fellow creatures. Again, what I chose to concentrate on was the motivation behind the Four Corners documentary and the injustice of its presentation, and they used Ms Weiss effectively within that framework. I make no excuses for ignoring the more obvious, blatantly distressing content,in favour of the agenda behind it. For individuals, some politicians, and organisations all over the world are using and misusing whatever they can get their hands on to contribute to the demise of the State of Israel and this must be fought.
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Sean Arundell says:
February 18, 2014 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm
Dear Liat Nagar,
Hi, just to be sure we are on the same page together please remember the subject matter of this page: "Three telling factual problems with 4Corners' "Stone Cold Justice". OK, that is the context of to my comments. I was searching for the abc site to send the report to a friend, and this website page was top of the list, and I got distracted and suddenly motivated to speak out.
Also rest easy that this Four Corners report in no way has affected me as a piece of propaganda. My general views were already well informed, highly educated in the history about such matters. The ABC has not influenced one iota. I already knew of far worse cases of human rights abuses and injustices there. On both =sides, and between the Palestinian groups themselves. Nasty business all round. No clean hands there, except for the children's!
Adults all make their choices, but the children do not have such a privileged. I speak for those who have no voice, knowing nothing will come of it anyway.
I did not "give you" 'Australian society' as some kind of ideal group of people. No where did I say anything close to that. There is no need to exaggerate or put words into my mouth. That is unfair when it is not true.
Next, no where did I suggest that Australia is a place "where sophistry and disinformation do not exist" either. Because you are right that "nothing could be further from the truth." and I agree. How much time do you have to listen my complaints regarding such things in OZ?
Next Liat Nagar you say to me: "You speak of ethics - something I hold dear to my heart and incorporate within my intellect, not to mention my soul - and yet you do not go on to discuss the difference in behaving 'ethically' within a safe, secure society such as Australia, as averse to behaving 'ethically' within a society continually under threat...."
You're right. No I did not go on to discuss the difference. My comments were solely in reference to the subject matter and content in question, of the Four Corners documentary. In particular I spoke only to those specifics I was moved to speak on. You are creating a 'strawman' here by suggesting I "should" have gone on and on and on and addressed other aspects to the existence of Israel, it's security, and then lay out a lengthy explanation of plausible 'variations' of when ethics can be shaped to circumstances? Sorry, not going to do that.
If you wish to speak to that, and rationalize away the behavior of the Israeli Government, of armed soldiers dealing with 5 year olds 'accused' of throwing stones at cars, and the military judicial system and laws in the occupied territories and justify that 'ethically' then go ahead. If that is possible.
It has nothing to do with me nor my comments here. No one can criticize me nor guilt me into speaking to those issues if I do not choose to. If that is 'your' issue Liat Nagar, then speak up, for that is your your job not mine. I said what I had to say, and I have my personal reasons.
You go on to say "...I am not suggesting one should not, or cannot, behave ethically if one's life, or country, is under threat, however I am saying that the discussion of ethics goes to different places in different circumstances, posing different and difficult questions and answers. Let us not assume that the people of Australia are any different in real terms than peoples elsewhere."
Yes, let us not do that. I did not assume so. I spoke to the Values of, and not the individual people. We are all human. There is a line of where appropriate behaviors moves across into inappropriate behavior and cruelty. I care not if it is in Australia or elsewhere. The line is still a line and it is real. The same standards and yardsticks apply.
Did you know in 1918 in Australia that magistrates were giving 8 year old children 6 months hard labour on work gangs building railroads in the outback for being accused of stealing a goat? 2 months to a 6 year old?
Do you consider that acceptable under your 'ethical' values? How about if the elite of that day were intent on having all the aboriginal people removed from an area so they could run their cattle, and so they created a system of making fasle accusations against them for killing cattle and goats etc, in order to have them removed from the ancestral lands for monetary gain alone?
Does that sound right to you? The aboriginals fought back when they could and even killed some white people. Was that 'wrong' for them to do so? To protect their land and their families from outright theft? Right here in Australia mate!
In the newspapers it was deemed a 'security' issue for the white elites who had all the Law on their side. Sound familiar?
You mentioned 'security'. There is no security in life when the military can storm into peoples homes at 2am and drag children out of their bed, photograph them as if they are criminals and then note the bed in which they normally sleep.
The children here walk to school. But if they had to survive under the threat of being shot at by the clinically insane whilst walking past their homes, then that is no kind of security any human could endure for long.
For justice to be done it must apply to all equally and the very same standards must apply or that is not justice. That is oppression, tyranny and injustice. Since time immemorial human beings have rose up against such injustices. That is rational human behaviour. It's in all our DNA.
There would be no security for the farmers in my area if I could turn up at anytime with a piece of paper from Canberra stating I had a legal right to pitch my tent on their property and bring all my friends. It wouldn't take long for that farmers children to start throwing stones at my tent. I wouldn't blame them either. That is no way to live in peace and security with one's neighbours.
But of course then we have Ms Weiss in that abc report who invokes the highest and ultimate authority declaring their are no neighbours and no one else has any human rights. Therein lays the core of the problem here. The beginning and the end of it in one simple invalid myth that denies reality.
"It is good to be born a child, but bad to remain a child." Swami Vivekananda
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Lynne Newington says:
February 19, 2014 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm
I'm wondering if I'm on the right site here....words so famiiar elsewhere in todays climate.
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Richard Whittington says:
February 18, 2014 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm
Well,what can we say. If the ABC is incapable of accurate reporting on the activities of the Australian Navy,what chance is there of accurate,factual reporting of events and circumstances in Israel?
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Lynne Newington says:
February 20, 2014 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm
Great interview on BBC's Hardtalk this AM between the Palestinian Authority's chief negotiator Saeb Erakt and Stephen Sackur on talks over a Middle East settlement resuming in Paris, well worth listening too.
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Lynne Newington says:
February 17, 2014 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm
I'm glad you're addressing it.
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gabrielle gouch says:
February 17, 2014 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm
I agree the reporting was biased somewhat. It should have shown what those kids are taught in school.
I also agree that Israel is under threat. From his neighbours, from Iran but not from a five year old kid.
Except that this kid will grow up remembering the terror the Israeli soldiers inflicted on him. And that was clear in the video. The soldiers should have talked to his father but leave the kid alone. No stone thrown by a five year old can kill or even wound seriously.
Israel's existence is also under threat because the increase of the number of settlements (now dotted in many parts of the West Bank). Settlers are not compromising people. Unfortunately many Israelis and Diaspora Jews are behind them 100%.
The settler woman who proclaimed that God had given the Land to the Jews should have been asked whether she also believes that the Earth is flat as a pancake and if she travels far enough she will fall off.
Does she take antibiotics and has medical interventions or like my uncle rather dies than interfering with God's will.
Does she invoke a blind face only when is convenient? At least my uncle was a total believer and he would have never robbed another's person's land.
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Gil Solomon says:
February 19, 2014 6:56 am at 6:56 am
Gabrielle Gouch,
You say: "At least my uncle was a total believer and he would have never robbed another's person's land."
By this statement you indicate a person who has absolutely no knowledge of history. There never was a country called "Palestine". If there was, who were its rulers, what currency did they use, was it a Sharia state or democracy or a monarchy? The facts are that the Romans, when they conquered Israel (including Judea and Samaria) called the entire area Philistina so as to rub salt into the wounds of the defeated Jews by calling it after the Jews' mortal enemies the Philistines. Many decades later the name Philistina was anglicized to Palestine which ended up as being a geographical land mass finally administered by the British from 1914 to the 1947 Partition Plan.
Sorrry but you appear to be another brainwashed Jew who has fallen for the Arab propaganda.
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Liat Nagar says:
February 17, 2014 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm
I agree with you, Gil Solomon. When are we going to give ourselves permission to be hard-nosed when necessary in the pursuit of truthful context in order to expose Israel's circumstances, Israel's 'truth'?! When are we going to publicly face the hard issues and force others to confront them? I, too, am sick of the ongoing sensationalist reports that have only one thing in mind: the painting of Israel as the evil ogre and the Palestinians as poor victims awaiting their deliverance. Australia is also a democracy and yet we now have a federal government who makes no apologies for taking all kinds of decisions and actions without transparency to the public, without even discussion or explanation, and yet most don't say boo. Let the Australian journalists and do-gooders focus on their own backyard: on the ongoing plight of the Aboriginal people, on the inherent racism that shows its ugly face time and again,on the present government's decision-making and what it represents, on the complacent attitude existing that somehow this country is different and better. Let's have some documentaries on that.
And, Sean Arundell, please do not give us 'Australian society' as some kind of ideal group of people where sophistry and disinformation do not exist; nothing could be further from the truth. You speak of ethics - something I hold dear to my heart and incorporate within my intellect, not to mention my soul - and yet you do not go on to discuss the difference in behaving 'ethically' within a safe, secure society such as Australia, as averse to behaving 'ethically' within a society continually under threat. I am not suggesting one should not, or cannot, behave ethically if one's life, or country, is under threat, however I am saying that the discussion of ethics goes to different places in different circumstances, posing different and difficult questions and answers. Let us not assume that the people of Australia are any different in real terms than peoples elsewhere.
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alex pais says:
February 16, 2014 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm
Amazingly, the Four Courners ommited to mention, yet alone demonstrate, the burned marks on the palms of the Palestinian victims, the 5-year old kid included. Surely, warrants another special report. How about calling it "The Hot Pipes of Israel" or "The Scorched Hand Of Palestine? Beats the Aussie Navy's "crimes" anytime, and so much easier to prove.
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Gil Solomon says:
February 16, 2014 10:58 am at 10:58 am
The facts are that the Four Corners program, like many others in the past, are aired with periodic monotony in Australia. One can therefore only come to the conclusion that the usual complaint letters everyone is urged to write to the producers end up in the garbage, unread.
Recently the Chinese Government threatened various US media representatives with revocation of their press credentials for even daring to write mildly critical reports concerning the Chinese military posture in the South China Seas. These representatives waited with baited breath as to what would happen and uttered not a peep.
On the other hand, that insane democracy called Israel, time after time allows hostile reporters to enter unsupervised to make a "documentary" film. The powers that be in Israel seem oblivious to the propaganda effect of reporters and their camera crews entering the country and do not see fit to impose minders to chaperone them throughout their visit. Israel has proven again that it has no concept of Hasbara (pr).
In future, unless Australian correspondents and camera crews agree to submit to rigorous supervision during their stay, then it is my opinion that they should be barred from entry, their press credentials revoked on the spot and they should be sent packing back to Australia with their equipment confiscated and destroyed. This is the only way to get the message through loud and clear that these disgraceful so called "documentaries" will no longer be tolerated.
If readers disagree with me then so be it. I for one am sick of hearing about the kind of action I propose not being the "Jewish way."
Also, it is all well and good for the Israeli Embassy in Australia to "blast" the Four Corners program as was reported in the AJN (14/2), but when will they ever recommend something along the lines above to the authorities within Israel responsible for granting press credentials? Showing outrage and lamenting after the event will, as usual, prove nothing.
Finally, quoting what B'Tselem utters is farcical, even if it does comes down on Israel's side from time to time. On the whole this organisation rarely has Israeli interests in mind and is just another organisation trying to undermine Israel's standing at every opportunity. No doubt I will receive howls of protest for this comment also.
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Sean Arundell says:
February 16, 2014 10:48 am at 10:48 am
Therefore, the inaccuracy you point out is that this practice of placing human beings in outside cages in the snow did not refer only to Palestinians prisoners, and not only to Palestinian children, but to prisoners in general and child prisoners in general.
That the Israeli Government has now stopped this long term practice "under pressure from human rights groups, since it came to PUBLIC ATTENTION that this was IN FACT the practice in Israel. Namely that: "The office of Justice Minister Tzipi Livni confirmed the decision and said it came after Ms Livni became aware that it had been a longstanding practice and had included keeping Palestinian children in the cages during snowstorms."
The wording there says "included", it did not say ONLY. As such, that statement was and still is correct and 100% accurate. As confirmed by:
".. information from the Public Defender's Office about child prisoners being kept in cages did not refer specifically to Palestinians."
"This article was amended to reflect the fact that the now-halted practice of holding detainees in outdoor cages involved Israeli citizens and not necessarily Palestinians."
What does J-Wire have to say about this abominable practice of PLACING CHILD PRISONERS IN OUTDOOR CAGES AT NIGHT, INCLUDING WHEN IT IS SNOWING?
You say nothing Tzvi Fleischer. Not once in this article do you condemn this unholy practice outright. Not once do you condemne the Government of Israel for this inhumane practice.
Instead your article intimates that 'Hey, it it isn't that bad, they stopped doing it now.' and 'Hey, these reporters and the ABC especially are really bad because they didn;t 'fact check' enough it came across as was misleading to suggest the Israeli ONLY did this to Palestinian kiddies'? Their crime is one of poor reporting practices and possible a couple of minor errors.
Did you write this article while watching the distressed 5 year old boy being terrorized by Israeli soldiers Tzvi Fleischer? I do not think you did. You have no empathy nor normal human decency if you fail to see the real import of this report by Four Corners. Do you believe that it is acceptable human and government behaviour that this is a price that 5 year old CHILD has to pay for the actions of adults over 66 years long before he was born?
Nothing can ever justify nor rationalise such terror being consciously and systematically inflicted upon young children and families of any race, of any religion! It is inhumane and it is abhorrent. No excuses. None.
And yet in 2014 the Israeli Government had to be told by others first and be publicly exposed before they stopped it? (Well they say they stopped it, but have they?) Are you serious Tzvi Fleischer?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apologist
http://carm.org/dictionary-apologist
Ethics, sometimes known as philosophical ethics, ethical theory, moral theory, and moral philosophy, is a branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending and recommending concepts of right and wrong conduct, often addressing disputes of moral diversity.
The term ETHICS comes from the Greek word ethos, which means "character". The superfield within philosophy known as axiology includes both ethics and aesthetics and is unified by each sub-branch's concern with VALUE.
Philosophical ethics investigates what is the best way for humans to live, and what kinds of actions are right or wrong in particular circumstances.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) is a declaration adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 10 December 1948 (the very same year Israel unilaterally declared itself an independent nation state) says:
"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Australia played an important role in the development of the Universal Declaration. The President of the United Nations General Assembly in 1948 was then one Herbert Vere "H.V." Evatt (aka Doc Evatt), an Australian statesman of the highest order.
Are you an Australian or an Israeli citizen? Think deeply and then make an ethically sound, well reasoned choice as to whose Values and Ethical norms you truly aspire to Tzvi Fleischer. Live video recordings do not lie and distort the facts. People do. Governments do. Apologists for Israel's actions no matter those actions might be, do.
I believe that the inhumane, unjust actions and entrenched deceptions of the Israeli Governments over decades is a black stain on the soul of humanity. It will not stand.
Your article, in my opinion, is an extremely biased apologetics of unbridled spin. Far more biased and error laden than the ABC Four Corners program. Such sophistry and disinformation has no place in Australian society.
Please post my comments on this website in full.
Sean Arundell
NSW Australia
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Lynne Newington says:
February 17, 2014 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm
Why on earth did you think they wouldn't Sean, in fact we have a few black stains on the souls of humanity ourselves......
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Ben says:
February 16, 2014 9:56 am at 9:56 am
The long standing hasbara tactic of trying to explain away reality by picking at a small detail. Even the article does not deny that children were kept in cages, merely that the practice has been stopped. Whether it has been resumed is unclear.
The bigger truth is that this is a continuation of the policy going back to Herzel and Jabotinsky of displacing the Palestinians.
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February 16, 2014 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm
sorry Editors
I have posted with the same email address for several years and continue to use the same email.
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February 17, 2014 4:18 am at 4:18 am
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gabrielle gouch says:
February 18, 2014 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm
Well admin, you know my full identity but you decided not to publish my comment. It does not fit with the right wing view.
May I point out that I know a number of Jews who see the situation like me. But you don't want to give us a voice.
I am not left wing or right wing, but I oppose the building of settlements and of extremists like that woman interviewed on Four Corners. And my comments explained why.
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I strongly suggest and in fact I DEMAND that you cease and desist your ABUSE
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whole to the RSS Group via David Lane email, and have all your posts here on
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"This is a last and Final Notice to stop your vilification, your false accusations, your persistent Defamation and Slander of my good self and my reputation, and your DAILY Cyberharrassment of me since early June 2013 across two Yahoo Forums immediately."
When will you learn? It's quite simple, really.
4 days later and you still refuse to see sense.
It's out of my hands now. <shrug>
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> > 1. ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS
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> > Yahoo! Inc. ("Yahoo!") welcomes you. Yahoo! provides the Yahoo! Services (defined below) to you subject to the following Terms of Service ("TOS"), which may be updated by us from time to time without notice to you. You can review the most current version of the TOS at any time at: http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/. By accessing and using the Yahoo! Services, you accept and agree to be bound by the terms and provision of the TOS. In addition, when using particular Yahoo! owned or operated services, you and Yahoo! shall be subject to any posted guidelines or rules applicable to such services, which may be posted and modified from time to time. All such guidelines or rules (including but not limited to our Spam Policy) are hereby incorporated by reference into the TOS. Yahoo! may also offer other services that are governed by different Terms of Service. In such cases the other terms of service will be posted on the relevant service to which they apply.
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> > 2. DESCRIPTION OF YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > Yahoo! provides users with access to a rich collection of resources, including without limitation various communications tools, forums, shopping services, search services, personalized content and branded programming through its network of properties which may be accessed through any various medium or device now known or hereafter developed (the "Yahoo! Services"). You also understand and agree that the Yahoo! Services may include advertisements and that these advertisements are necessary for Yahoo! to provide the Yahoo! Services. You also understand and agree that the Yahoo! Services may include certain communications from Yahoo!, such as service announcements, administrative messages and the Yahoo! Newsletter, and that these communications are considered part of Yahoo! membership and you will not be able to opt out of receiving them. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, any new features that augment or enhance the current Yahoo! Services, including the release of new Yahoo! properties, shall be subject to the TOS. You understand and agree that the Yahoo! Services is provided "AS-IS" and that Yahoo! assumes no responsibility for the timeliness, deletion, mis-delivery or failure to store any user communications or personalization settings. You are responsible for obtaining access to the Yahoo! Services, and that access may involve third-party fees (such as Internet service provider or airtime charges). You are responsible for those fees, including those fees associated with the display or delivery of advertisements. In addition, you must provide and are responsible for all equipment necessary to access the Yahoo! Services.
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> > You understand that the technical processing and transmission of the Yahoo! Services, including your Content, may involve (a) transmissions over various networks; and (b) changes to conform and adapt to technical requirements of connecting networks or devices.
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> > Please be aware that Yahoo! has created certain areas on the Yahoo! Services that contain adult or mature content. You must be at least 18 years of age to access and view such areas.
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> > 3. YOUR REGISTRATION OBLIGATIONS
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> > In consideration of your use of the Yahoo! Services, you represent that you are of legal age to form a binding contract and are not a person barred from receiving the Yahoo! Services under the laws of the United States or other applicable jurisdiction. You also agree to: (a) provide true, accurate, current and complete information about yourself as prompted by the Yahoo! Service's registration form (the "Registration Data") and (b) maintain and promptly update the Registration Data to keep it true, accurate, current and complete. If you provide any information that is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, or Yahoo! has reasonable grounds to suspect that such information is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, Yahoo! has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Yahoo! Services (or any portion thereof). Yahoo! is concerned about the safety and privacy of all its users, particularly children. For this reason, parents of children under the age of 13 who wish to allow their children access to the Yahoo! Services must create a Yahoo! Family Account. When you create a Yahoo! Family Account and add your child to the account, you certify that you are at least 18 years old and that you are the legal guardian of the child/children listed on the Yahoo! Family Account. By adding a child to your Yahoo! Family Account, you also give your child permission to access many areas of the Yahoo! Services, including, email, message boards and instant messaging (among others). Please remember that the Yahoo! Services is designed to appeal to a broad audience. Accordingly, as the legal guardian, it is your responsibility to determine whether any of the Yahoo! Services areas and/or Content (as defined in Section 6 below) are appropriate for your child.
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> > 4. YAHOO! PRIVACY POLICY
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> > Registration Data and certain other information about you are subject to our applicable privacy policy. For more information, see the full Yahoo! Privacy Policy at http://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/, or if you came from Yahoo! Kids, then see our Yahoo! Kids Privacy Policy at http://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/kids. You understand that through your use of the Yahoo! Services you consent to the collection and use (as set forth in the applicable privacy policy) of this information, including the transfer of this information to the United States and/or other countries for storage, processing and use by Yahoo! and its affiliates.
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> > 5. MEMBER ACCOUNT, PASSWORD AND SECURITY
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> > You will receive a password and account designation upon completing the Yahoo! Service's registration process. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of the password and account and are fully responsible for all activities that occur under your password or account. You agree to (a) immediately notify Yahoo! of any unauthorized use of your password or account or any other breach of security, and (b) ensure that you exit from your account at the end of each session. Yahoo! cannot and will not be liable for any loss or damage arising from your failure to comply with this Section 5.
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> > 6. MEMBER CONDUCT
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> > You understand that all information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages, tags, or other materials ("Content"), whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, are the sole responsibility of the person from whom such Content originated. This means that you, and not Yahoo!, are entirely responsible for all Content that you upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available via the Yahoo! Services. Yahoo! does not control the Content posted via the Yahoo! Services and, as such, does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such Content. You understand that by using the Yahoo! Services, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Under no circumstances will Yahoo! be liable in any way for any Content, including, but not limited to, any errors or omissions in any Content, or any loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of the use of any Content posted, emailed, transmitted or otherwise made available via the Yahoo! Services.
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> > You agree to not use the Yahoo! Services to:
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> > a. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable;
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> > b. harm minors in any way;
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> > c. impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, a Yahoo! official, forum leader, guide or host, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;
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> > d. forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any Content transmitted through the Yahoo! Service;
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> > e. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any Content that you do not have a right to make available under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships (such as inside information, proprietary and confidential information learned or disclosed as part of employment relationships or under nondisclosure agreements);
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> > f. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights ("Rights") of any party;
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> > g. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation, except in those areas (such as shopping) that are designated for such purpose (please read our complete Spam Policy);
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> > h. upload, post, email, transmit, or otherwise make available any material that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;
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> > i. disrupt the normal flow of dialogue, cause a screen to "scroll" faster than other users of the Yahoo! Services are able to type, or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users' ability to engage in real time exchanges;
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> > j. interfere with or disrupt the Yahoo! Services or servers or networks connected to the Yahoo! Services, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Yahoo! Services, including using any device, software or routine to bypass our robot exclusion headers;
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> > k. intentionally or unintentionally violate any applicable local, state, national or international law, including, but not limited to, regulations promulgated by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, any rules of any national or other securities exchange, including, without limitation, the New York Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange, or the NASDAQ, and any regulations having the force of law;
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> > l. provide material support or resources (or to conceal or disguise the nature, location, source, or ownership of material support or resources) to any organization(s) designated by the United States government as a foreign terrorist organization pursuant to section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act;
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> > m. "stalk" or otherwise harass another; and/or
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> > n. collect or store personal data about other users in connection with the prohibited conduct and activities set forth in paragraphs a through m above.
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> > You acknowledge that Yahoo! may or may not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo! and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to pre-screen, refuse, or remove any Content that is available via the Yahoo! Services. Without limiting the foregoing, Yahoo! and its designees shall have the right to remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such Content. In this regard, you acknowledge that you may not rely on any Content created by Yahoo! or submitted to Yahoo!, including without limitation information in Yahoo! Message Boards and in all other parts of the Yahoo! Services.
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> > You acknowledge, consent and agree that Yahoo! may access, preserve and disclose your account information and Content if required to do so by law or in a good faith belief that such access preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to: (i) comply with legal process; (ii) enforce the TOS; (iii) respond to claims that any Content violates the rights of third parties; (iv) respond to your requests for customer service; or (v) protect the rights, property or personal safety of Yahoo!, its users and the public.
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> > You understand that the Yahoo! Services and software embodied within the Yahoo! Services may include security components that permit digital materials to be protected, and that use of these materials is subject to usage rules set by Yahoo! and/or content providers who provide content to the Yahoo! Services. You may not attempt to override or circumvent any of the usage rules embedded into the Yahoo! Services. Any unauthorized reproduction, publication, further distribution or public exhibition of the materials provided on the Yahoo! Services, in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited.
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> > 7. INTERSTATE NATURE OF COMMUNICATIONS ON YAHOO! NETWORK
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> > When you register with Yahoo!, you acknowledge that in using the Yahoo! Services to send electronic communications (including but not limited to email, search queries, sending messages to Yahoo! Chat or Yahoo! Groups, uploading photos and files to Flickr, and other Internet activities), you will be causing communications to be sent through Yahoo!'s computer networks, portions of which are located in California, Texas, Virginia, and other locations in the United States and portions of which are located abroad. As a result, and also as a result of Yahoo!'s network architecture and business practices and the nature of electronic communications, even communications that seem to be intrastate in nature can result in the transmission of interstate communications regardless of where you are physically located at the time of transmission. Accordingly, by agreeing to this TOS, you acknowledge that use of the service results in interstate data transmissions.
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> > 8. SPECIAL ADMONITIONS FOR INTERNATIONAL USE AND EXPORT AND IMPORT COMPLIANCE
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> > Recognizing the global nature of the Internet, you agree to comply with all local rules regarding online conduct and acceptable Content. Use of the Yahoo! Services and transfer, posting and uploading of software, technology, and other technical data via the Yahoo! Services may be subject to the export and import laws of the United States and other countries. You agree to comply with all applicable export and import laws and regulations, including without limitation the Export Administration Regulations (see http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/ear_data.html) and sanctions control programs of the United States (see http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Pages/Programs.aspx). In particular, you represent and warrant that you: (a) are not a prohibited party identified on any government export exclusion lists (see http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/liststocheck.htm) or a member of a government of any other export-prohibited countries as identified in applicable export and import laws and regulations; (b) will not transfer software, technology, and other technical data via the Yahoo! Services to export-prohibited parties or countries; (c) will not use the Yahoo! Services for military, nuclear, missile, chemical or biological weaponry end uses in violation of U.S. export laws; and (d) will not transfer, upload, or post via the Yahoo! Services any software, technology or other technical data in violation of U.S. or other applicable export or import laws.
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> > 9. CONTENT SUBMITTED OR MADE AVAILABLE FOR INCLUSION ON THE YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Yahoo! Services. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license(s), as applicable:
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> > a. With respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of Yahoo! Groups, the license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Yahoo! Services solely for the purposes of providing and promoting the specific Yahoo! Group to which such Content was submitted or made available. This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on the Yahoo! Services and will terminate at the time you remove or Yahoo! removes such Content from the Yahoo! Services.
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> > b. With respect to photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services other than Yahoo! Groups, the license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Yahoo! Services solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available. This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on the Yahoo! Services and will terminate at the time you remove or Yahoo! removes such Content from the Yahoo! Services.
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> > c. With respect to Content other than photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services other than Yahoo! Groups, the perpetual, irrevocable and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed.
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> > "Publicly accessible" areas of the Yahoo! Services are those areas of the Yahoo! network of properties that are intended by Yahoo! to be available to the general public. By way of example, publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services would include Yahoo! Message Boards and portions of Yahoo! Groups and Flickr that are open to both members and visitors. However, publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services would not include portions of Yahoo! Groups that are limited to members, Yahoo! services intended for private communication such as Yahoo! Mail or Yahoo! Messenger, or areas off of the Yahoo! network of properties such as portions of World Wide Web sites that are accessible via hypertext or other links but are not hosted or served by Yahoo!.
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> > 10. CONTRIBUTIONS TO YAHOO!
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> > By submitting ideas, suggestions, documents, and/or proposals ("Contributions") to Yahoo! through its suggestion or feedback webpages, you acknowledge and agree that: (a) your Contributions do not contain confidential or proprietary information; (b) Yahoo! is not under any obligation of confidentiality, express or implied, with respect to the Contributions; (c) Yahoo! shall be entitled to use or disclose (or choose not to use or disclose) such Contributions for any purpose, in any way, in any media worldwide; (d) Yahoo! may have something similar to the Contributions already under consideration or in development; (e) your Contributions automatically become the property of Yahoo! without any obligation of Yahoo! to you; and (f) you are not entitled to any compensation or reimbursement of any kind from Yahoo! under any circumstances.
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> > 11. INDEMNITY
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> > You agree to indemnify and hold Yahoo! and its subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, employees, partners and licensors harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable attorneys' fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of Content you submit, post, transmit, modify or otherwise make available through the Yahoo! Services, your use of the Yahoo! Services, your connection to the Yahoo! Services, your violation of the TOS, or your violation of any rights of another.
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> > 12. NO COMMERCIAL REUSE OF YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, trade, resell or exploit for any commercial purposes, any portion or use of, or access to, the Yahoo! Services (including Content, advertisements, Software and your Yahoo! ID).
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> > 13. GENERAL PRACTICES REGARDING USE AND STORAGE
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> > You acknowledge that Yahoo! may establish general practices and limits concerning use of the Yahoo! Services, including without limitation the maximum number of days that email messages, message board postings or other uploaded Content will be retained by the Yahoo! Services, the maximum number of email messages that may be sent from or received by an account on the Yahoo! Services, the maximum size of any email message that may be sent from or received by an account on the Yahoo! Services, the maximum disk space that will be allotted on Yahoo!'s servers on your behalf, and the maximum number of times (and the maximum duration for which) you may access the Yahoo! Services in a given period of time. You agree that Yahoo! has no responsibility or liability for the deletion or failure to store any messages and other communications or other Content maintained or transmitted by the Yahoo! Services. You acknowledge that Yahoo! reserves the right to log off accounts that are inactive for an extended period of time. You further acknowledge that Yahoo! reserves the right to modify these general practices and limits from time to time.
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> > Yahoo! Messenger, including any web-based versions, will allow you and the people with whom you communicate to save your conversations in your Yahoo! accounts located on Yahoo! servers. This means you can access and search your message history from any computer with access to the internet. Whether or not you use this feature, other users may choose to use it to save conversations with you in their account on Yahoo! too. Your agreement to this TOS constitutes your consent to allow Yahoo! to store these communications on its servers.
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> > 14. MODIFICATIONS TO YAHOO! SERVICES
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> > Yahoo! reserves the right at any time and from time to time to modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Yahoo! Services (or any part thereof) with or without notice. You agree that Yahoo! shall not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Yahoo! Services (or any part thereof).
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> > 15. TERMINATION
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> > You may terminate your Yahoo! account, any associated email address and access to the Yahoo! Services by submitting such termination request to Yahoo!.
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> > You agree that Yahoo! may, without prior notice, immediately terminate, limit your access to or suspend your Yahoo! account, any associated email address, and access to the Yahoo! Services. Cause for such termination, limitation of access or suspension shall include, but not be limited to, (a) breaches or violations of the TOS or other incorporated agreements or guidelines, (b)requests by law enforcement or other government agencies, (c) discontinuance or material modification to the Yahoo! Services (or any part thereof), (d) unexpected technical or security issues or problems, (e) extended periods of inactivity, (f) engagement by you in fraudulent or illegal activities, and/or (g) nonpayment of any fees owed by you in connection with the Yahoo! Services. Further, you agree that all terminations, limitations of access and suspensions for cause shall be made in Yahoo!'s sole discretion and that Yahoo! shall not be liable to you or any third party for any termination of your account, any associated email address, or access to the Yahoo! Services.
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> > Termination of your Yahoo! account includes any or all of the following: (a) removal of access to all or part of the offerings within the Yahoo! Services, (b) deletion of your password and all related information, files and content associated with or inside your account (or any part thereof), and (c) barring of further use of all or part of the Yahoo! Services.
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> > 16. DEALINGS WITH ADVERTISERS
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> > Your correspondence or business dealings with, or participation in promotions of, advertisers found on or through the Yahoo! Services, including payment and delivery of related goods or services, and any other terms, conditions, warranties or representations associated with such dealings, are solely between you and such advertiser. You agree that Yahoo! shall not be responsible or liable for any loss or damage of any sort incurred as the result of any such dealings or as the result of the presence of such advertisers on the Yahoo! Services.
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> > 17. LINKS
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> > The Yahoo! Services may provide, or third parties may provide, links to other World Wide Web sites or resources. You acknowledge and agree that Yahoo! is not responsible for the availability of such external sites or resources, and does not endorse and is not responsible or liable for any Content, advertising, products or other materials on or available from such sites or resources. You further acknowledge and agree that Yahoo! shall not be responsible or liable, directly or indirectly, for any damage or loss caused or alleged to be caused by or in connection with use of or reliance on any such Content, goods or services available on or through any such site or resource.
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> > 18. YAHOO!'S PROPRIETARY RIGHTS
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> > You acknowledge and agree that the Yahoo! Services and any necessary software used in connection with the Yahoo! Services ("Software") contain proprietary and confidential information that is protected by applicable intellectual property and other laws. You further acknowledge and agree that Content contained in advertisements or information presented to you through the Yahoo! Services or by advertisers is protected by copyrights, trademarks, service marks, patents or other proprietary rights and laws. Except as expressly permitted by applicable law or as authorized by Yahoo! or the applicable licensor (such as an advertiser), you agree not to modify, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute, transmit, broadcast, publicly perform or create derivative works based on the Yahoo! Services, such Content or the Software, in whole or in part.
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> > Yahoo! grants you a personal, non-transferable and non-exclusive right and license to use the object code of its Software on a single computer; provided that you do not (and do not allow any third party to) copy, modify, create a derivative work from, reverse engineer, reverse assemble or otherwise attempt to discover any source code, sell, assign, sublicense, grant a security interest in or otherwise transfer any right in the Software. You agree not to modify the Software in any manner or form, nor to use modified versions of the Software, including (without limitation) for the purpose of obtaining unauthorized access to the Yahoo! Services. You agree not to access the Yahoo! Services by any means other than through the interface that is provided by Yahoo! for use in accessing the Yahoo! Services.
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> > 19. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
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> > YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT:
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> > a. YOUR USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES AND SOFTWARE ARE AT YOUR SOLE RISK. THE YAHOO! SERVICES AND SOFTWARE ARE PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS. YAHOO AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF TITLE, MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.
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> > b. YAHOO! AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS MAKE NO WARRANTY THAT (i) THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS; (ii) THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE OR ERROR-FREE; (iii) THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL BE ACCURATE OR RELIABLE; (iv) THE QUALITY OF ANY PRODUCTS, SERVICES, INFORMATION OR OTHER MATERIAL PURCHASED OR OBTAINED BY YOU THROUGH THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS; AND (v) ANY ERRORS IN THE SOFTWARE WILL BE CORRECTED.
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> > c. ANY MATERIAL DOWNLOADED OR OTHERWISE OBTAINED THROUGH THE USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE IS ACCESSED AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION AND RISK, AND YOU WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR AND HEREBY WAIVE ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AND CAUSES OF ACTION WITH RESPECT TO ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM, INTERNET ACCESS, DOWNLOAD OR DISPLAY DEVICE, OR LOSS OF DATA THAT RESULTS FROM THE DOWNLOAD OF ANY SUCH MATERIAL.
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> > d. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM YAHOO! OR THROUGH OR FROM THE YAHOO! SERVICES OR SOFTWARE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THE TOS.
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> > e. A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF USERS MAY EXPERIENCE EPILEPTIC SEIZURES WHEN EXPOSED TO CERTAIN LIGHT PATTERNS OR BACKGROUNDS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN OR WHILE USING THE YAHOO! SERVICE. CERTAIN CONDITIONS MAY INDUCE PREVIOUSLY UNDETECTED EPILEPTIC SYMPTOMS EVEN IN USERS WHO HAVE NO HISTORY OF PRIOR SEIZURES OR EPILEPSY. IF YOU, OR ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY, HAVE AN EPILEPTIC CONDITION, CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN PRIOR TO USING THE YAHOO! SERVICE. IMMEDIATELY DISCONTINUE USE OF THE YAHOO! SERVICES AND CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN IF YOU EXPERIENCE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING SYMPTOMS WHILE USING THE YAHOO! SERVICE: DIZZINESS, ALTERED VISION, EYE OR MUSCLE TWITCHES, LOSS OF AWARENESS, DISORIENTATION, ANY INVOLUNTARY MOVEMENT, OR CONVULSIONS.
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> > 20. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
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> > YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT YAHOO! AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY PUNITIVE, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF YAHOO! HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (a) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE YAHOO! SERVICE; (b) THE COST OF PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS AND SERVICES; (c) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (d) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE YAHOO! SERVICE; OR (e) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE YAHOO! SERVICE.
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> > 21. EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS
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> > SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN WARRANTIES OR THE LIMITATION OR EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES. ACCORDINGLY, SOME OF THE ABOVE LIMITATIONS OF SECTIONS 19 AND 20 MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.
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> > 22. SPECIAL ADMONITION FOR YAHOO! SERVICES RELATING TO FINANCIAL MATTERS
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> > If you intend to create or join any service, receive or request any news, messages, alerts or other information from the Yahoo! Services concerning companies, stock quotes, investments or securities, please read the above Sections 19 and 20 again. They go doubly for you. In addition, for this type of information particularly, the phrase "Let the investor beware" is apt. The Yahoo! Services is provided for informational purposes only, and no Content included in the Yahoo! Services is intended for trading or investing purposes. Yahoo! and its licensors shall not be responsible or liable for the accuracy, usefulness or availability of any information transmitted or made available via the Yahoo! Services, and shall not be responsible or liable for any trading or investment decisions based on such information.
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> > 23. NO THIRD-PARTY BENEFICIARIES
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> > You agree that, except as otherwise expressly provided in this TOS, there shall be no third-party beneficiaries to this agreement.
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> > 24. NOTICE
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> > Yahoo! may provide you with notices, including those regarding changes to the TOS, including by but not limited to email, regular mail, SMS, MMS, text message, postings on the Yahoo! Services, or other reasonable means now known or hereafter developed. Such notices may not be received if you violate this TOS by accessing the Yahoo! Services in an unauthorized manner. Your agreement to this TOS constitutes your agreement that you are deemed to have received any and all notices that would have been delivered had you accessed the Yahoo! Services in an authorized manner.
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> > 25. TRADEMARK INFORMATION
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> > You agree that all of Yahoo!'s trademarks, trade names, service marks and other Yahoo! logos and brand features, and product and service names are trademarks and the property of Yahoo! Inc. (the "Yahoo! Marks"). Without Yahoo!'s prior permission, you agree not to display or use in any manner the Yahoo! Marks.
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> > 26. NOTICE AND PROCEDURE FOR MAKING CLAIMS OF COPYRIGHT OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY INFRINGEMENT
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> > Yahoo! respects the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users to do the same. Yahoo! may, in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, disable and/or terminate the accounts of users who may be repeat infringers. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please provide Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent the following information:
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> > a. an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest;
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> > b. a description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;
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> > c. a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site;
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> > d. your address, telephone number, and email address;
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> > e. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
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> > f. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner's behalf.
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> > Yahoo!'s Agent for Notice of claims of copyright or other intellectual property infringement can be reached as follows:
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> > By mail:
> > Copyright Agent
> > c/o Yahoo! Inc.
> > 701 First Avenue
> > Sunnyvale, CA 94089
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> > By phone: (408) 349-5080
> > By fax: (408) 349-7821
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> > By email: copyright@
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> > 27. CLOSED CAPTIONING
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> > Yahoo! complies with applicable Federal Communications Commission rules and regulations regarding the closed captioning of video content. Please visit info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/cc/en-us/ for more information or to register any concerns or complaints regarding video content accessible on the Yahoo! network of properties.
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> > 28. GENERAL INFORMATION
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> > Entire Agreement. The TOS constitutes the entire agreement between you and Yahoo! and governs your use of the Yahoo! Services, superseding any prior version of this TOS between you and Yahoo! with respect to the Yahoo! Services. You also may be subject to additional terms and conditions that may apply when you use or purchase certain other Yahoo! services, affiliate services, third-party content or third-party software.
> >
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And now richard mccormick is trapped WITH sean arundel! Forget civil court "tough guys"
HOWEVER, I would like to wish you BOTH, All Divine Love and Light as well as Perfect Health, in the name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta!
Kinpa
Jan 9, 2016, 3:06:05 PM1/9/16
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Here sean shows his prejudice concerning Americans, just as the first one showed his clear anti-Semitism:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.eckankar/mhqQPZ600_Y/YoDalwWKlI4J
Santim Vah
12/23/09
- show quoted text -
Don't believe me?
No problem, just watch this space after xmas as I will be posting hard
quotes from Harold with an explanation PLUS a *decoding* especially
for our American friends who seem to the ones who have the MOST
trouble with such simple things, and who are most definitely the most
confused and bent out of shape by these matters.
Sean
So what was that you said about being protected by the US Constitution as a "real person" LOL. More lies.
Keep digging your hole!
and may you be blessed, with All Divine Light and Love and perfect health in the name of the SUGMAD, the ECK and the Mahanta~!
Kinpa
Jan 9, 2016, 4:27:51 PM1/9/16
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
https://darkpsychology.co/troll/
Here we have a link with many types of internet trolls...reading that document will reveal that sean arundell fits into a great number of these categories.
And in response to this he will do what all trolls/internet stalkers do, he will insist that I have been stalking him, except that I have the proof that he has listed a great deal of information here from a search of my name.
He has absolutely NONE that I have EVER done the same to him!
Try try again, but you shall NOT succeed Mr. supposed "Master Research Journalist."
This individual is by no means a master of anything, but there is ONE category where he COULD use the term master, and only one...
Defamation THIS pal! Call the FBI, call anyone! You are a liar, plain and simple!
BUT, I wish you All Divine Love and Light, and Perfect Health, in the name of the SUGMAD, the ECK and the Mahanta~!!!!
Message has been deleted
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 6:34:04 AM1/29/16
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FOR A START, it's illegal and breach of copyright to be copying and pasting
such discussion board comments here.
I'm sure a DCMA Take Down notice will fix that -- if needed.
RE: "He has absolutely NONE that I have EVER done the same to him!"
Well no surprise to see Kinpa is lying above as usual. (shrug)
RE: "Defamation THIS pal! Call the FBI, call anyone!"
Consider it done. Because "defamation & stalking & harassment & lying" is
what Kinpa has done here again.
RE: "You are a liar, plain and simple!"
Nope, not at all .... the ONLY Liar here is Kinpa, aka Matthew Sharpe.
[ Since Jon R Clark abandoned ship for the LFN cruise ]
RE: "BUT, I wish you All Divine Love and Light, and Perfect Health, in
the name of the SUGMAD, the ECK and the Mahanta~!!!! "
Is that the biggest lie of all, or are there worse? Well the latter is the case.
==================
The best part of all this is the remarkable similarities between Kinpa's
disgusting verbiage & behaviour, and that of GKF - "Gloria"
That someone would be so desperate to choose "Gloria" as a piece of evidence
to defend Kinpa's and his false accusations is well, it's FITTING.
Because Kinpa (Matt Sharpe) has now taken the crown from Gloria as the most
disgusting, threatening, lying, manipulative, and mentally disturbed TROLL
I have ever come across on discussion boards - bar none!
As I said on the other reply it's a FALSE VICTIMIZATION
"The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him/her."
Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases. - And yet ANOTHER hallmark of your average Troll.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/alt.religion.eckankar/4fGspT_M84M
--------
I think in her 12 year reign on Lane's RSS group, Gloria had accused about
10 different posters of "threatening to rape her."
Every single male who ever disagreed with her was a "misogynist" and an "abuser" and they could go "fuck themselves" --
THis all happened on Yahoo Group that was both restricted and MODERATED and
run by David Lane. Yes, the "professor".
David told me in 2013 that "Gloria" was THE most vile abusive person he had ever
encountered on discussion boards and in his entire life -- she surpassed all
the death threats he got even.
And still he REFUSED despite HUNDREDS of requests by others to BAN HER FROM
THE GROUP .. or Moderate her comments in any way.
Like Eric Cartman .. NO ONE (with any normal psychology and decency) liked her
one bit, or wanted her to stay on the group. They wanted nothing to do with her.
After our little "tete a tete" she has never been back there, that I am aware of.
"Gloria" indeed did go to the Police in Seattle and made TWO Police reports
about "stalking and harassment" against myself. Having a "sane conversation"
with her was impossible for me and everyone else at the time.
She was vile insulting abusive woman with severe disorders or worse. Let's
not go there, but basically she could not help herself.
The bottom line is that both those police reports were "rejected" outright -
She had fronted up to the police station in person btw.
In the process of discussing the issues on the phone with the Seattle Police
HQ and various emails back and forth, I was redirected (and encouraged) to
make an FBI IC3 Report - which I did. That's how I found out about that and the
various State and national Laws that are on the books in the USA.
The important issue to be noted here is that JR Clark our old friend and
longtime a.r.e. poster here under multiple NYMS such as Dusty Jackson and
a.r.e.Lurker .. who changes sides as easily the a change of wind direction, knew all about this matter when it happened.
And so it is that soon after JR chose to join the LFN as a new "Initiate"
all this material pops up about Gloria .. and is being used AS IF I am the
one who was the Perpetrator and abuser in the case over at RRS & Exsat yahoo
groups.
THis is no surprise at all .... and given the disordered untrustworthy and
non-stop lying by Kinpa it;s no surprise that these matter would be twisted
out of all proportion and THE TRUTH like he has done here.
The other item of Israel discussion board and children being imprisoned in
the open air and in the snow and heat is also a beat up to call that
"antisemitism" is bordering on delusionally insane imho.
But that too fits the bill here on a.r.e. since SEPT 2014 .....
Here's a few snippets from Yahoo groups ..... it all adds up. If you don;t reading bat shit crazy and foul language, I'd suggest you don't bother.
But it has "kinpa's" current MO and multiple disorders all over it.
(shrug)
:::::::
editor.ptha Aug 5, 2013
--- In ex...@yahoogroups.com, triestestudent <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Wrong.
>
> Go do your own work. I'm not going to do it for you.
>
> And when a person says conversation over that means Conversation Over. Keep trying to compel
another to converse with you despite their expressed wish that you stop and that leads to
becoming a person engaged in harassment. You wrote, what you wrote to Isydopen, and that is a
fact. And you wrote to me what you wrote to me in RSS and that too is a fact.
---------------------
FACTS interest Gloria? Here is one:
[note - Gloria's reply message to MM lackpurity Michael Martin ]
Re: [Radhasoami Studies] Re: Should the moderator moderate?
Posted By: exsatsangi AKA triestestudent
aka GLORIA KAREN FARMAN Seattle WA
Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:41 am |
Gloria to the biggest fucking hypocrite walking around on the face of the planet:
I suggest you go fuck yourself up the ass with a nice big corn cob. LOL Sideways. Twice. No
lubrication. :-)
You are ridiculous to the extreme. You threaten me with rape [ANOTHER FALSE CLAIM BY gkf]. And
then you have the unmitigating gall to try and lecture me you little piece of shit about what
I can say and what I can't say. Go get stuffed.
No offense. Oh, if you decide to come and meet me in person be prepared for the full weight of
the law to re-aquaint you to the lawful consequences of making threats of rape against a
poster [FALSE CLAIMS iow MORE LIES]. As you sow, fatherfucker, so shall ye reap.
Now go get bent. GIGGLING TO THE POINT THAT STUDENTS ARE CURIOUSLY WONDERING WHY...
P.S. Tell Jim S. that sucking his Master's cock the way Jim sucks yours is a bit much even for
a satsangi in loved with a psycho such as yourself. Remind him that one can really cross the
line in the amount of toading one does as a slave to one's imagined superior. ROTFLMAO at the
two cocksuckers.
Kisses to the creepy pedophiliac known as Jim
<snipped>
[ORIGINAL URL + Text forwarded to YAHOO INC, FBI & Seatle Police long ago]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radhasoamistudies/message/83899
Moderation by Professor David Lane RSS Yahoo Group Owner?
ZERO from 2003 to 2013
How's that for facts about very delusional people in Glass Houses?
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/exsat/conversations/messages/18778
and
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/exsat/conversations/topics/18889
AND
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/exsat/conversations/topics/18728
and exsatsangi Gloria
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/radhasoamistudies/conversations/topics/83899
and turri parker is GLORIA
triestudent is GLORIA
and exsatsangi is GLORIA
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/radhasoamistudies/conversations/topics/83899
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/radhasoamistudies/search/messages?
advance=true&am=CONTAINS&at=triestestudent&cm=CONTAINS&ct=rape%20raped%20fuck
%20&dm=IS_ANY&fs=false
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/radhasoamistudies/search/messages?
advance=true&am=CONTAINS&at=email%3Atriestestudent%40&cm=CONTAINS&ct=rape&dm=IS_ANY&fs=false
========
It all adds up the substantive evidence that's admissible in court if
and when it's needed. Like everything else.
Like Yahoo Groups, when it comes to reporting abuse it;s a waster of time.
neither of these corporations do a damned thing without a Court Order
or an official DCMA take down notice.
They rave on about how "stopping abuse is important to them" blah blah the
"community" is key etc.
That everyone MUST abide by their Terms of Service, but such TOS's are all
worthless.
I learnt that in spades in 2013 ... but Yahoo Inc. is still an item on my to-do-list.
Especially as a result of Kinpa Matthew Sharpe being such a LOW LIFE SCUM that
he would stoop so low to use such material in an effort to destroy my
personal reputation, to intimidate me, and threaten me repeatedly wiht his
ridiculous lies and shit that pours out of his mouth every day here.
That JR would likewise support Kinpa is also noted and will not be forgotten.
What he had done before was bad enough, but his recent "mind games" are up
there with the rest of the unethical and very nasty people on this planet.
AS for Lane well, we came to a point where we disagreed over a course of
action. He insisted on his way and I insisted on my way. That's life. And no
big deal in the scheme of things. What he thinks about that or me is his
business, I don't really care.
(shrug)
There ya go, this is for the RECORD ..... like it or lump it.
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 6:37:21 AM1/29/16
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On Friday, 29 January 2016 22:34:04 UTC+11, Henosis Sage wrote:
snipped the rest -- the short version reply re-posted
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/t1TWKaMdFCk/XMT57iooBwAJ
snipped the rest -- the short version reply re-posted
Kinpa
Jan 29, 2016, 10:36:26 AM1/29/16
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On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 11:37:21 AM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> On Friday, 29 January 2016 22:34:04 UTC+11, Henosis Sage wrote:
>
> snipped the rest -- the short version reply re-posted
>
> ----
>
> FOR A START, it's illegal and breach of copyright to be copying and pasting
> such discussion board comments here.
>
> I'm sure a DCMA Take Down notice will fix that -- if needed.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On Friday, 29 January 2016 22:34:04 UTC+11, Henosis Sage wrote:
>
> snipped the rest -- the short version reply re-posted
>
> ----
>
> FOR A START, it's illegal and breach of copyright to be copying and pasting
> such discussion board comments here.
>
> I'm sure a DCMA Take Down notice will fix that -- if needed.
:D
> RE: "He has absolutely NONE that I have EVER done the same to him!"
>
> Well no surprise to see Kinpa is lying above as usual. (shrug)
NOT!
> RE: "Defamation THIS pal! Call the FBI, call anyone!"
>
> Consider it done. Because "defamation & stalking & harassment & lying" is
> what Kinpa has done here again.
Another lie. The FBI have yet to receive anything from you...BUT, how are your data discs doing?
> RE: "You are a liar, plain and simple!"
>
> Nope, not at all .... the ONLY Liar here is Kinpa, aka Matthew Sharpe.
> [ Since Jon R Clark abandoned ship for the LFN cruise ]
And here we see just one more of the "MASTER RESEARCH JOURNALIST'S" assumptions that he demands are factual (without even the slightest proof)based on his worldview from inside of his ego. I'm still waiting to see the evidence, being that any set of two initials happen to be used by most people on the planet these days. The initials "J.R." are hardly rarely used...
> RE: "BUT, I wish you All Divine Love and Light, and Perfect Health, in
> the name of the SUGMAD, the ECK and the Mahanta~!!!! "
>
> Is that the biggest lie of all, or are there worse? Well the latter is the case.
Show proof ANYTIME! Unless you have none....
> ==================
>
>
> The best part of all this is the remarkable similarities between Kinpa's
> disgusting verbiage & behaviour, and that of GKF - "Gloria"
>
> That someone would be so desperate to choose "Gloria" as a piece of evidence
> to defend Kinpa's and his false accusations is well, it's FITTING.
>
> Because Kinpa (Matt Sharpe) has now taken the crown from Gloria as the most
> disgusting, threatening, lying, manipulative, and mentally disturbed TROLL
> I have ever come across on discussion boards - bar none!
Those with narrow minds DO tend to lump things together this way, evidence never being required...as you will, however, that is just one more thing you cannot prove. Funny that you deem yourself important enough to be the center of all of my supposed actions.....things that you are quite familiar with actually, such as catfishing ARE by pretending to be Artemis.....and BEE at the same time? LOL truly funny stuff!
Like this thread where sean admits to being a female character simply because his actual female character happened to also be there responding...he must've felt he had gotten away with it real good by this point:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/alt.religion.eckankar/authorname$3AArtemis/alt.religion.eckankar/VxKccJYYafE
> As I said on the other reply it's a FALSE VICTIMIZATION
>
> "The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him/her."
> Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases. - And yet ANOTHER hallmark of your average Troll.
And one that sean has been seen to use invariably for years both here, and at Yahoo, and any number of other places...oh well
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/alt.religion.eckankar/4fGspT_M84M
> --------
>
>
> I think in her 12 year reign on Lane's RSS group, Gloria had accused about
> 10 different posters of "threatening to rape her."
>
> Every single male who ever disagreed with her was a "misogynist" and an "abuser" and they could go "fuck themselves" --
>
> THis all happened on Yahoo Group that was both restricted and MODERATED and
> run by David Lane. Yes, the "professor".
>
> David told me in 2013 that "Gloria" was THE most vile abusive person he had ever
> encountered on discussion boards and in his entire life -- she surpassed all
> the death threats he got even.
>
> And still he REFUSED despite HUNDREDS of requests by others to BAN HER FROM
> THE GROUP .. or Moderate her comments in any way.
STILL attached to that grudge eh? That says volumes about you, but let the readers judge for themselves!
> Like Eric Cartman .. NO ONE (with any normal psychology and decency) liked her
> one bit, or wanted her to stay on the group. They wanted nothing to do with her.
>
> After our little "tete a tete" she has never been back there, that I am aware of.
>
> "Gloria" indeed did go to the Police in Seattle and made TWO Police reports
> about "stalking and harassment" against myself. Having a "sane conversation"
> with her was impossible for me and everyone else at the time.
>
> She was vile insulting abusive woman with severe disorders or worse. Let's
> not go there, but basically she could not help herself.
>
> The bottom line is that both those police reports were "rejected" outright -
> She had fronted up to the police station in person btw.
She IS on record there, but you having taken ANY action is not! Funny that...
> In the process of discussing the issues on the phone with the Seattle Police
> HQ and various emails back and forth, I was redirected (and encouraged) to
> make an FBI IC3 Report - which I did. That's how I found out about that and the
> various State and national Laws that are on the books in the USA.
So what? You assumed that they had jurisdiction, and they corrected your mistake, all a matter of course for any police anywhere in the USA...
> The important issue to be noted here is that JR Clark our old friend and
> longtime a.r.e. poster here under multiple NYMS such as Dusty Jackson and
> a.r.e.Lurker .. who changes sides as easily the a change of wind direction, knew all about this matter when it happened.
So what? Is it his job to be your mother and make sure that mean people don't disagree with you or accuse you of things? The very idea is quite strange, not sure what benefit you imagine mentioning this could ever bring you...
> And so it is that soon after JR chose to join the LFN as a new "Initiate"
> all this material pops up about Gloria .. and is being used AS IF I am the
> one who was the Perpetrator and abuser in the case over at RRS & Exsat yahoo
> groups.
Did he now? Where is your evidence? I see two initials that I happen to know that literally thousands of people share in the USA alone, not to mention whatever the number might be for the entire globe....but facts are seemingly things you are not so familiar with as you prefer to make assumptions and run with them! Typical...
> THis is no surprise at all .... and given the disordered untrustworthy and
> non-stop lying by Kinpa it;s no surprise that these matter would be twisted
> out of all proportion and THE TRUTH like he has done here.
Yeah yeah yeah..any NEW false claims to make? You DO seem to prefer dead horses above all other things.....
> The other item of Israel discussion board and children being imprisoned in
> the open air and in the snow and heat is also a beat up to call that
> "antisemitism" is bordering on delusionally insane imho.
So says sean, the anti-Semite that loves to call me and others Jews while not actually having the least of clues as to my actual geneaology, and God forbid he see a rabbi anywhere or he is forced to assume that they are related to me....all signs of his prejudice against Jews....which doesn't actually concern me at all being that being a Jew is not a racial situation, it is a religious one, and Judaism is not my religion.
> But that too fits the bill here on a.r.e. since SEPT 2014 .....
>
> Here's a few snippets from Yahoo groups ..... it all adds up. If you don;t reading bat shit crazy and foul language, I'd suggest you don't bother.
>
> But it has "kinpa's" current MO and multiple disorders all over it.
>
> (shrug)
Keep insisting son....one day you will realize that NO ONE has to accept your insisting of anything!
So what? Is anyone supposed to actually care? You've wandered WAY off topic here LOL
> It all adds up the substantive evidence that's admissible in court if
> and when it's needed. Like everything else.
>
>
> Like Yahoo Groups, when it comes to reporting abuse it;s a waster of time.
>
> neither of these corporations do a damned thing without a Court Order
> or an official DCMA take down notice.
Except that despite your supposed "legal action" against them, nothing was ever removed, which implies that you never had ANY legal recourse in this matter, you have just been blowing a LOT of hot air! Go on, catch your breath!
> They rave on about how "stopping abuse is important to them" blah blah the
> "community" is key etc.
>
> That everyone MUST abide by their Terms of Service, but such TOS's are all
> worthless.
>
> I learnt that in spades in 2013 ... but Yahoo Inc. is still an item on my to-do-list.
And will never not be a thing on your "to do" list that never gets done....I suppose you should probably do yourself a favor and get over it already...
> Especially as a result of Kinpa Matthew Sharpe being such a LOW LIFE SCUM that
> he would stoop so low to use such material in an effort to destroy my
> personal reputation, to intimidate me, and threaten me repeatedly wiht his
> ridiculous lies and shit that pours out of his mouth every day here.
>
> That JR would likewise support Kinpa is also noted and will not be forgotten.
> What he had done before was bad enough, but his recent "mind games" are up
> there with the rest of the unethical and very nasty people on this planet.
Here seans tries crying his river another time....but that there happen to be extremely few actual facts within it anywhere! Pure assumption, not to mention hypocrisy...again, typical...
> AS for Lane well, we came to a point where we disagreed over a course of
> action. He insisted on his way and I insisted on my way. That's life. And no
> big deal in the scheme of things. What he thinks about that or me is his
> business, I don't really care.
>
> (shrug)
>
> There ya go, this is for the RECORD ..... like it or lump it.
YES! You HAVE made a definitive record of YOUR attachment to certain things as well as proving how much they bother you! Not sure that I would want to put those things out there, but hey it's rather too late now!
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/t1TWKaMdFCk/XMT57iooBwAJ
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
May you be blessed by Love and Light, and Perfect Health, in the Name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, AND the Mahanta~!!!!!
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 11:08:31 AM1/29/16
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Well it is like this.
Either Kinpa is right or he is wrong.
Either Kinpa believes what he writes here or he doesn't.
Kinpa can think what he likes and believe what he likes, and imagine what
he likes and do what he likes ... and he will reap the consequences of that.
The above is not worth reading .. let alone "believing" but each to their own.
Meanwhile I caught this as the posts zoomed by for a cut and paste.
alt.religion.eckankar ›
Why is Sean Masquerading As "Bee"?
And out of that from 2003 or THIRTEEN YEARS AGO NOW ..... Kinpa concludes
that someone called SEAN admitted to pretending to be a female character.
THIRTEEN YEARS AGO .... Kinpa is trying to dig up some "dirt on sean"
Oh really? How nice. If this isn't proof positive that the man is somewhat
"STRANGE" and seriously obsessed and bent out of shape atm, then I am not
sure what would convince anyone ...
While he speaks about MY 'attachment'? Speaks about my Double standards?
Calls me a "stalker" ???
It was about 14 months ago that I first was impelled to use the term "idiot"
for referring to Kinpa --- it still fits perfectly imho.
Not my problem. I am passing it all up to higher authorities to deal with.
They can work it out and decide what to do about Kinpa aka Matthew Sharpe.
And I do hope everyone is enjoying the company of 72 year old Mr Jon Clarke
The best thing to ever happen to the LFN imho.
And I also hope that the new [is he remarried?] Mr & Mrs Sharpe are still
considered as a fine upstanding and just as Sexy Michigan Couple.
Obviously Kinpa keeps calling out for assistance "in the Name of the SUGMAD,
the ECK, AND the Mahanta~!!!!!"
I am not surprised, but am very unsure if even they can help this sad and nasty
piece of work.
But that's only my opinion .... do feel free to draw your own.
meanwhile, I have work to do, so I best nip off to bed now.
Oh btw ... this WHOLE THREAD of Kinpa's here is grossly manipualtive, it's
Defamation and Stalking and ongoing Internet Harassment across 17 months now.
It is also clearly outside the Law and outside of Google's and Comcast's
Terms of Service. How Eckankar will look upon it is unknown at this stage.
Bringing disrepute upon the entire organisation globally and every other Initiate by this kind of public behaviour.
https://youtu.be/vEB0l6OqLR4?t=1m4s
Cannot say you weren't given fair warning as being aware of obvious and
repeated DEMANDS TO STOP AND DESIST from this illegal behaviour.
(shrug)
Not my problem.
.
Etznab
Jan 29, 2016, 11:20:45 AM1/29/16
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Kinpa
Jan 29, 2016, 11:39:03 AM1/29/16
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May you be blessed with Divine lLight and Love and Perfect Health in the Name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta~! Have a great day sean! You too richard!
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 12:39:33 PM1/29/16
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RE: "Your research is laughable at best.."
If you say so, it must be true.
Well if your mothers maiden name isn't Jenkins, and you weren't born on 12 Jun
1969, and you don't have a younger brother and sister, and you never lived in
Lexington by Lake Huron, and never married Christine, then obviously my
"remote viewing skills" and my "access" to the Causal records are absolute
crap.
And you don't have an "identical twin" with a Hammer that talks like you do...
and swears like a trooper while harassing women about their sex life or lack there of on the internet, and you do not live on the border of canada and
think all American music is crap, and you didn't used to smoke like a chimney
when playing a Strat on stage. And you know nothing about a nice old lady
named Ruthenberg.
And all the rubbish I have thrown up at you over time that I called "research"
I really must have believed all that because you told me I did, and it wasn't
a ploy to muddy the waters or gain +/- confirmations along the way, becasue I
am plainly too much of an idiot to be capable of planning ahead.
And I have never ran any business turning over $40 mill a year in the 1980s
with a staff of almost 1000 people working 24/7. Nope that never happened
either, and what on earth would I know about Patti S or Doug Marman and I was
a fool to even think he parents were Jewish or suggest such a thing.
And being totally wrong about Klemp's dob [jan 26th 1942] because I believed
a few eckists who told me that was kosher, then I should just ignore the other
research on the causal plane that told me it was actually September 5, 1942
instead and just forget it because that's probably totally wrong as well.
Obviously I am deluded and a dumb ass and couldn't work my way out of a wet paper, and wouldn't know jack shit about computers and used to have a lady called Patricia who really does think I am a "shitter nutter".
Plus I have totally forgotten about being a rapist and a criminal and get so drunk and off my face on drugs 24/7 that nothing I ever say can be trusted or
believed by anyone on the face of the earth.
Especially by law enforcement, lawyers, Google, Comcast, Publishers, Copyright
holders nor Eckankar HQ and yes I am Artemis when I get dressed up in drag.
I need to give it up then and can only assume all the Eckankar training I did
was useless and a total waste of time and money.
And my IQ is obviously only 45 and not 145. I lied about the ONE, so how
could I ever be seen as an Henosis Sage if that's the case.
I have been totally outmaneuvered by an brilliant capable and exceedingly
popular personality who is also as rich as sin and you are married after all.
Gosh I am so embarrassed, I don't know what to do with myself. Pity I don't
live in the good ol' USA cause I could get myself a nice little hand gun,
blow my brains out and do the world a favour ... I am after all so utterly
useless as human being.
Thanks for the heads up Matthew.
Proof backed by evidence is so critical and obviously I have none. I can't
even find stuff on a.r.e. anymore, and am incapable of copy paste and have
no idea how to even save a file properly.
<sniffle>
Etznab
Jan 29, 2016, 12:45:15 PM1/29/16
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Is it possible you are so afraid of facing the truth that you would rather do everything possible to avoid it? Even to the extent of lying about the people who are approaching that truth? As if to say "It just isn't so (and there is no proof of it) because I, Kinpa, say it isn't so!" (?) Example: Rebazar Tarzs was said to have communicated "yada, yada" (and the content filled pages of books) when the truth is more likely "that" character was a created fiction?
Umm ... so, Do you have a problem discussing this topic? Or is this topic like Kryptonite to your Superman?
Because, I remember what the topics of discussion were about here before last time you chimed in at a.r.e. so many months ago. And I remember at times how you presented your opinions as statements. Also how you rewrote other people's opinions as if they were statements and the way you also appeared to change what other people wrote as if to make the content (according to you) look more negative and degrading when in actuality it was rather benign. Then, after you were called on this (and other things), you denied doing them!
Kinpa, I think this amounts to blatant denial on your part! And shows a pattern of denial with intent to harass! In other words, this is exactly what your language here looks like to me! Not just one or two posts, but months of postings! Those filled with so many sweeping statements appearing to deceive whereby you refabricated the opinions and content from other people's posts, as if to infect them with the "Kinpa-speak virus". Also, the speaking for other people and the many examples of "as if" speaking for everybody else in order to dominate the discussion topics with your own viewpoints by making them look as if they were majority viewpoints shared by nearly everybody else. This, along with several examples of bold-faced lies, of swearing and intimidations are in my honest opinion further evidences of actions done with intent and repeatedly done in a fashion unique to you.
To be frank, I don't believe you can at this point escape from what have been your actual intent(s) (visible to all others, or not) here at a.r.e. for so many months. Not when a record of text exists here just as evident as the plagiarisms written into Eckankar books are visible to practically anybody who can read English.
I think we can revist time and time again the reported and written sayings of Rebazar Tarzs, of other Eck Masters, and of beings from heavenly planes to find fact from fiction and all learn by it without anybody so much as copping a negative attitude, swearing and making up lies about other members of a.r.e. Because, IMHO, the focus is not about members of Eckankar, or not; but this is actually just a detraction when the focus is about what already has been done and created by the writings of Paul Twitchell and Eckankar that used materials already created by other uncited and uncredited authors and books.
In other words, Eckankar and the Eckankar teachings presented in books and that deal with the history of Eckankar masters has been the focus of many people and many posts here at a.r.e. spanning many years. To deny that and to focus on so many other people here at a.r.e. for the purpose of personally attacking them instead is, IMHO, a devious detraction from a more collective and concentrated path of discovery concerning the Eckankar teachings and the context of fact vs. fiction.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/APN5uLeSAO4/8wjLqMFhU6UJ
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 12:53:00 PM1/29/16
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says IC3 it doesn't and I don't have any files in my Kinpa folder that start with the letters fbi - and I must have imagined talking to a sgt on the phone
at the Seattle Police Headquarters several times as we struggled with accents.
I think I must have dreamed it all ..... those astral entities must have been
screwin' with me head mate.
Shit hang about, I must have dreamt putting Artemis into an ambulance the
other week as well. Whew that's good news. Thanks so much for setting me
straight Matthew ... can I call you my guru please?
I reckon you are heaps better than the Twitchell and Quoc has already proven
with his life that Klemp is powerless and ignores his loving chelas when in
dire straits.
OK then I'd better go now and book myself into a clinic asap.
You can have a.r.e. all to yourself Matthew. Spread the Word Brother be a
great missionary the best the world has ever known since Rama walked out of
the dark German forests.
I am no match for you.
<sniffle>
Kinpa
Jan 29, 2016, 1:05:37 PM1/29/16
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The only thing you have ever been able to access is a google search! Love the way you keep repeating the same things that are on any google search LOL you like to pretend that any of it is important.
I can't even begin to tell you how much inaccurate info you have placed here, but then again, you ARE merely fishing! I'm not going to help you!
> And you don't have an "identical twin" with a Hammer that talks like you do...
> and swears like a trooper while harassing women about their sex life or lack there of on the internet, and you do not live on the border of canada and
> think all American music is crap, and you didn't used to smoke like a chimney
> when playing a Strat on stage. And you know nothing about a nice old lady
> named Ruthenberg.
All things anyone can get from my youtube page! What of it? I WAS a smoker for decades, not any longer however. Haven't owned a strat for more than a decade, and do not know any such nice old ladies named "Ruthenberg." Of course every Matt Sharpe that comes up on a google search is not me, there are quite a few people with that name, much like there are thousands of people with the initials "J.R." that are not all the same JR that is here....your searching skills are rusty at best, and you still always go with the assumptions in the place of truth....you are one funny guy!
> And all the rubbish I have thrown up at you over time that I called "research"
> I really must have believed all that because you told me I did, and it wasn't
> a ploy to muddy the waters or gain +/- confirmations along the way, becasue I
> am plainly too much of an idiot to be capable of planning ahead.
You said it, not I, But I DO agree with what you've said about yourself!
> And I have never ran any business turning over $40 mill a year in the 1980s
> with a staff of almost 1000 people working 24/7. Nope that never happened
> either, and what on earth would I know about Patti S or Doug Marman and I was
> a fool to even think he parents were Jewish or suggest such a thing.
What do these things have to do with anything? Have you once again lost your focus completely?
> And being totally wrong about Klemp's dob [jan 26th 1942] because I believed
> a few eckists who told me that was kosher, then I should just ignore the other
> research on the causal plane that told me it was actually September 5, 1942
> instead and just forget it because that's probably totally wrong as well.
You would need to learn to access the Causal Plane first, before being able to look at anything there....
> Obviously I am deluded and a dumb ass and couldn't work my way out of a wet paper, and wouldn't know jack shit about computers and used to have a lady called Patricia who really does think I am a "shitter nutter".
All true, but for Patricia who was someone that pitied you for a time before dumping you....I bet she is doing better these days however...
> Plus I have totally forgotten about being a rapist and a criminal and get so drunk and off my face on drugs 24/7 that nothing I ever say can be trusted or
> believed by anyone on the face of the earth.
>
> Especially by law enforcement, lawyers, Google, Comcast, Publishers, Copyright
> holders nor Eckankar HQ and yes I am Artemis when I get dressed up in drag.
Wow, on a tangent now??
> I need to give it up then and can only assume all the Eckankar training I did
> was useless and a total waste of time and money.
Ok
> And my IQ is obviously only 45 and not 145. I lied about the ONE, so how
> could I ever be seen as an Henosis Sage if that's the case.
You are by no means a "Sage" and what you might have to do with the experience of henosis is debatable at best......
> I have been totally outmaneuvered by an brilliant capable and exceedingly
> popular personality who is also as rich as sin and you are married after all.
>
> Gosh I am so embarrassed, I don't know what to do with myself. Pity I don't
> live in the good ol' USA cause I could get myself a nice little hand gun,
> blow my brains out and do the world a favour ... I am after all so utterly
> useless as human being.
Flattering yourself again? You are just not THAT important to anyone.....
> Thanks for the heads up Matthew.
>
> Proof backed by evidence is so critical and obviously I have none. I can't
> even find stuff on a.r.e. anymore, and am incapable of copy paste and have
> no idea how to even save a file properly.
>
> <sniffle>
Off with you then!
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 1:14:00 PM1/29/16
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He is the real Rebazar Tarzs living on one of Paul's houseboats in the harbour.
He's given up butter yak tea for fish and the freedom of the Hindu Kush for the
freedom of being an American... where Eckankar is safe and prospering among the
teaming masses of the nation.
He does Sunday lunch with Doug at their Vancouver homestead on the first
weekend of each month. And play mahjong all afternoon for entertainment. But
HK is never invited.
The Beautiful Girls - Freedom (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ss9XSirBWI
Well I may not be you and you not me,
but between us there are certain similarities.
Like I belive in love and the Devil will come,
looking for us if we wrong some one.
Freedom, is ours to hold.
It's just a struggle in your mind,
to keep your soul, keep your soul.
And it's old, yes it's old,
it's just a struggle in your mind to keep your soul.
Well how long you're down,
depends how you rise.
And life has a meaning so open your eyes.
The seeds that we speed into life to be trees,
will soon become fallen,
if their roots aren't deep.
.
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 1:34:23 PM1/29/16
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On Saturday, 30 January 2016 05:05:37 UTC+11, Kinpa wrote:
snipped
> > Well if your mothers maiden name isn't Jenkins, and you weren't born on 12 Jun
> > 1969, and you don't have a younger brother and sister, and you never lived in
> > Lexington by Lake Huron, and never married Christine, then obviously my
> > "remote viewing skills" and my "access" to the Causal records are absolute
> > crap.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The only thing you have ever been able to access is a google search! Love the way you keep repeating the same things that are on any google search LOL you like to pretend that any of it is important.
>
> I can't even begin to tell you how much inaccurate info you have placed here, but then again, you ARE merely fishing! I'm not going to help you!
>
>
>
>
> > And you don't have an "identical twin" with a Hammer that talks like you do...
> > and swears like a trooper while harassing women about their sex life or lack there of on the internet, and you do not live on the border of canada and
> > think all American music is crap, and you didn't used to smoke like a chimney
> > when playing a Strat on stage. And you know nothing about a nice old lady
> > named Ruthenberg.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> All things anyone can get from my youtube page! What of it? I WAS a smoker for decades, not any longer however. Haven't owned a strat for more than a decade, and do not know any such nice old ladies named "Ruthenberg." Of course every Matt Sharpe that comes up on a google search is not me, there are quite a few people with that name, much like there are thousands of people with the initials "J.R." that are not all the same JR that is here....your searching skills are rusty at best, and you still always go with the assumptions in the place of truth....you are one funny guy!
>
"the initials "J.R." that are not all the same JR that is here"
If you say. You would never lie.
And I don't use "google" for such things..... I must use Rusty's Search Tool.
"you are one funny guy!"
Oh no I am not. Not when it comes you Matthew. Never.
But which "youtube" were you talking about?
RE: "Haven't owned a strat for more than a decade"
Did I say you owned a strat in the last 10 years Matthew?
No I did not. Incompetents and lazy smart asses always end up screwing up.
Sometimes even worse then just screwing up. Except you of course.
>
> > And all the rubbish I have thrown up at you over time that I called "research"
> > I really must have believed all that because you told me I did, and it wasn't
> > a ploy to muddy the waters or gain +/- confirmations along the way, becasue I
> > am plainly too much of an idiot to be capable of planning ahead.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You said it, not I, But I DO agree with what you've said about yourself!
>
Of course you do .. it's true. %100 god's truth
>
>
> > And I have never ran any business turning over $40 mill a year in the 1980s
> > with a staff of almost 1000 people working 24/7. Nope that never happened
> > either, and what on earth would I know about Patti S or Doug Marman and I was
> > a fool to even think he parents were Jewish or suggest such a thing.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> What do these things have to do with anything? Have you once again lost your focus completely?
>
If you say so, then it must be so.
>
>
> > And being totally wrong about Klemp's dob [jan 26th 1942] because I believed
> > a few eckists who told me that was kosher, then I should just ignore the other
> > research on the causal plane that told me it was actually September 5, 1942
> > instead and just forget it because that's probably totally wrong as well.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You would need to learn to access the Causal Plane first, before being able to look at anything there....
>
Oh OK then. Silly me. Boy you know a lot of stuff Matthew.
>
>
> > Obviously I am deluded and a dumb ass and couldn't work my way out of a wet paper, and wouldn't know jack shit about computers and used to have a lady called Patricia who really does think I am a "shitter nutter".
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> All true, but for Patricia who was someone that pitied you for a time before dumping you....I bet she is doing better these days however...
>
>
I wouldn't know. Given I have no memory of having days good or bad in the first place.
>
>
>
> > Plus I have totally forgotten about being a rapist and a criminal and get so drunk and off my face on drugs 24/7 that nothing I ever say can be trusted or
> > believed by anyone on the face of the earth.
> >
> > Especially by law enforcement, lawyers, Google, Comcast, Publishers, Copyright
> > holders nor Eckankar HQ and yes I am Artemis when I get dressed up in drag.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Wow, on a tangent now??
>
What's a tangent O Guru?
>
> > I need to give it up then and can only assume all the Eckankar training I did
> > was useless and a total waste of time and money.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ok
>
Alrighty then.
>
>
> > And my IQ is obviously only 45 and not 145. I lied about the ONE, so how
> > could I ever be seen as an Henosis Sage if that's the case.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You are by no means a "Sage" and what you might have to do with the experience of henosis is debatable at best......
>
>
Actually I am a sage. I am actually a sage plant that achieved consciousness
in a major experiment undertaken over 40 years with the CIA and the Aliens.
Have you ever wondered why there's no photos of me online? That's why.
I'm a weed that talks .. it's freakish.
I used to look like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_apiana#/media/File:Salvia_apiana_4.jpg
But now I have eyes and fingers too, and a 250 IQ.
>
>
> > I have been totally outmaneuvered by an brilliant capable and exceedingly
> > popular personality who is also as rich as sin and you are married after all.
> >
> > Gosh I am so embarrassed, I don't know what to do with myself. Pity I don't
> > live in the good ol' USA cause I could get myself a nice little hand gun,
> > blow my brains out and do the world a favour ... I am after all so utterly
> > useless as human being.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Flattering yourself again? You are just not THAT important to anyone.....
>
Your kindness and compassion is overwhelming me.
>
>
> > Thanks for the heads up Matthew.
> >
> > Proof backed by evidence is so critical and obviously I have none. I can't
> > even find stuff on a.r.e. anymore, and am incapable of copy paste and have
> > no idea how to even save a file properly.
> >
> > <sniffle>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Off with you then!
OK Bye.
I'm not talking to you anymore.
As far as I am concerned you do not exist, except in a "legal sense" that is.
snipped
> > Well if your mothers maiden name isn't Jenkins, and you weren't born on 12 Jun
> > 1969, and you don't have a younger brother and sister, and you never lived in
> > Lexington by Lake Huron, and never married Christine, then obviously my
> > "remote viewing skills" and my "access" to the Causal records are absolute
> > crap.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The only thing you have ever been able to access is a google search! Love the way you keep repeating the same things that are on any google search LOL you like to pretend that any of it is important.
>
> I can't even begin to tell you how much inaccurate info you have placed here, but then again, you ARE merely fishing! I'm not going to help you!
>
>
>
>
> > And you don't have an "identical twin" with a Hammer that talks like you do...
> > and swears like a trooper while harassing women about their sex life or lack there of on the internet, and you do not live on the border of canada and
> > think all American music is crap, and you didn't used to smoke like a chimney
> > when playing a Strat on stage. And you know nothing about a nice old lady
> > named Ruthenberg.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> All things anyone can get from my youtube page! What of it? I WAS a smoker for decades, not any longer however. Haven't owned a strat for more than a decade, and do not know any such nice old ladies named "Ruthenberg." Of course every Matt Sharpe that comes up on a google search is not me, there are quite a few people with that name, much like there are thousands of people with the initials "J.R." that are not all the same JR that is here....your searching skills are rusty at best, and you still always go with the assumptions in the place of truth....you are one funny guy!
>
"the initials "J.R." that are not all the same JR that is here"
And I don't use "google" for such things..... I must use Rusty's Search Tool.
"you are one funny guy!"
Oh no I am not. Not when it comes you Matthew. Never.
But which "youtube" were you talking about?
RE: "Haven't owned a strat for more than a decade"
Did I say you owned a strat in the last 10 years Matthew?
No I did not. Incompetents and lazy smart asses always end up screwing up.
Sometimes even worse then just screwing up. Except you of course.
>
> > And all the rubbish I have thrown up at you over time that I called "research"
> > I really must have believed all that because you told me I did, and it wasn't
> > a ploy to muddy the waters or gain +/- confirmations along the way, becasue I
> > am plainly too much of an idiot to be capable of planning ahead.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You said it, not I, But I DO agree with what you've said about yourself!
>
>
>
> > And I have never ran any business turning over $40 mill a year in the 1980s
> > with a staff of almost 1000 people working 24/7. Nope that never happened
> > either, and what on earth would I know about Patti S or Doug Marman and I was
> > a fool to even think he parents were Jewish or suggest such a thing.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> What do these things have to do with anything? Have you once again lost your focus completely?
>
>
>
> > And being totally wrong about Klemp's dob [jan 26th 1942] because I believed
> > a few eckists who told me that was kosher, then I should just ignore the other
> > research on the causal plane that told me it was actually September 5, 1942
> > instead and just forget it because that's probably totally wrong as well.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You would need to learn to access the Causal Plane first, before being able to look at anything there....
>
>
>
> > Obviously I am deluded and a dumb ass and couldn't work my way out of a wet paper, and wouldn't know jack shit about computers and used to have a lady called Patricia who really does think I am a "shitter nutter".
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> All true, but for Patricia who was someone that pitied you for a time before dumping you....I bet she is doing better these days however...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Plus I have totally forgotten about being a rapist and a criminal and get so drunk and off my face on drugs 24/7 that nothing I ever say can be trusted or
> > believed by anyone on the face of the earth.
> >
> > Especially by law enforcement, lawyers, Google, Comcast, Publishers, Copyright
> > holders nor Eckankar HQ and yes I am Artemis when I get dressed up in drag.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Wow, on a tangent now??
>
>
> > I need to give it up then and can only assume all the Eckankar training I did
> > was useless and a total waste of time and money.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ok
>
>
>
> > And my IQ is obviously only 45 and not 145. I lied about the ONE, so how
> > could I ever be seen as an Henosis Sage if that's the case.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You are by no means a "Sage" and what you might have to do with the experience of henosis is debatable at best......
>
>
in a major experiment undertaken over 40 years with the CIA and the Aliens.
Have you ever wondered why there's no photos of me online? That's why.
I'm a weed that talks .. it's freakish.
I used to look like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_apiana#/media/File:Salvia_apiana_4.jpg
But now I have eyes and fingers too, and a 250 IQ.
>
>
> > I have been totally outmaneuvered by an brilliant capable and exceedingly
> > popular personality who is also as rich as sin and you are married after all.
> >
> > Gosh I am so embarrassed, I don't know what to do with myself. Pity I don't
> > live in the good ol' USA cause I could get myself a nice little hand gun,
> > blow my brains out and do the world a favour ... I am after all so utterly
> > useless as human being.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Flattering yourself again? You are just not THAT important to anyone.....
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the heads up Matthew.
> >
> > Proof backed by evidence is so critical and obviously I have none. I can't
> > even find stuff on a.r.e. anymore, and am incapable of copy paste and have
> > no idea how to even save a file properly.
> >
> > <sniffle>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Off with you then!
I'm not talking to you anymore.
As far as I am concerned you do not exist, except in a "legal sense" that is.
Kinpa
Jan 29, 2016, 1:45:04 PM1/29/16
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Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 1:51:21 PM1/29/16
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WOW, you must be like really really rich man and so important.
Who is it?
The Hawaii Five-O or Sherlock Holmes?
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 2:05:01 PM1/29/16
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Plus a body guard. One can't take risks when dealing with a mentally unstable
stalker.
The AFP have also been advised and I believe he's been placed on the border protection force's watch list. They have photos in case the visa is fraudulent.
So I'll be fine, no one needs to worry to much.
Except for Matthew of course.
Kinpa
Jan 29, 2016, 3:07:23 PM1/29/16
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Thanks SO much for the laughs! The way you continuously fire off lies is truly hilarious! Not that anyone takes you seriously to begin with...least of all me. Have a wonderful evening however, and may your heart be blessed by Divine Light and Love, and Perfect Health in the Name of the SUGMAD, the ECK, and the Mahanta!
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 8:25:54 PM1/29/16
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RE: No they haven't.
Oh yes they have people.
RE: You literally hide form the law.
On no I do not. I have no reason to. I use the Law to my own advantage
whenever possible. Surely the PI has already informed the fool I do not
have a criminal record. Haven't even been done for drinking driving my
entire life.
(shrug)
RE: It is your fear of them that keeps you moving so often.
Here is the fool lying as usual. Knows nothing. Pretends he does.
I have lived in two different homes the last decade and some. The fool
is a dumb idiot as well as a fool.
RE: How is Canberra this time of year?
It is usually really friggin' hot. It's bushfire season. Anyone interested
in local weather of various places in Australia can use the internet.
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/act/act/canberra
It's a damned site better than the weather in Lexington Michigan.
The fool should just Look out the window.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/lexington-mi/48450/weather-forecast/2211281
RE: "Love the way you said you weren't speaking to me and yet spoke to me
four or five times since saying that! I must admit, the need to dupe
people (the same need that you have) IS just another symptom of
Munchausen's Syndrome, so I'm not surprised."
Oh out trots the Dr Fool diagnosis again. Only an abuser would keep doing that
people (the same need that you have) IS just another symptom of
Munchausen's Syndrome, so I'm not surprised."
kind of crap in public. I wonder if he has ever tried this kind of shit out
in a saloon bar or on the street or on a train. Nope, cowards are cowards.
Apparently there's a psychiatrist on the LFN .... like how much does she need
therapy herself?
And the fool is still as dyslexic as ever and proves again he is incapable
of middle school level reading comprehension. No wonder he is unemployable.
RE: Thanks SO much for the laughs! The way you continuously fire off lies
is truly hilarious! Not that anyone takes you seriously to begin with...least
of all me.
Of course anyone who knows me well knows that is not accidental. Ever.
of all me.
There's a HUGE difference between acting the fool and BEING one.
RE: "Have a wonderful evening however, and may your heart be blessed by
Divine Light and Love, and Perfect Health in the Name of the SUGMAD, the
ECK, and the Mahanta!"
I think that is called duplicitous horse pucky in the US? What kind of a fool
ECK, and the Mahanta!"
would be using such treasured holy phrases to maintain his online abuse and
threats upon others. And of course habitual lying to and about others?
A complete fool and an idiot would, that's who. Then imagine they can always
get away with it because they have always gotten away with it before. Not this
time. He's screwed himself totally now.
He also knows what things I say are true .... as he continues to pretend that
nothing of it is. Well LFN people ask to see his drivers licence and make of
that what you will.
I have repeatedly told the abusing coward on a.r.e. that I do not Lie.
Except when telling "jokes" or making a "joke".
The fool's problem is accurately working out what is the truth and what is
the "joke". He will never work it out until the day he receives his just
desserts for his disgusting abusive and threatening and defamatory behavior
towards others.
It won;t happen over night but it will happen. Reports to the FBI have been
made about this idiot. Anyone want to see one? Drop me an email.
More are being prepared. And yes data discs are a part of that.
This is not the end of it.
---
For anyone interested in the truth of matters cultural and psychological .....
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-americans-dont-get-irony-2015-1
http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com.au/2009/05/sarcasm-and-irony.html
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-some-Americans-understand-irony
http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows//blog/2013/02/debate-are-americans-sarcasm-literate
http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows//blog/2013/02/debate-are-americans-sarcasm-literate
Henosis Sage
Jan 29, 2016, 8:46:58 PM1/29/16
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For visitors, the fool's name is Matthew Sharpe.
He's an Eckist, or so he claims.
He claims he is the #2 person who owns the Light force network website.
He claims he is responsible as the Webmaster there.
That he also ruins two other websites, he says.
He plays a "senior" role for "Initiates" on the LFN website.
He calls himself there SHABDA - Preceptor, and a site Guardian.
That website has NOTHING to do with Eckankar, the religion, nor Harold Klemp.
That website and the people on it have NO AUTHORITY to speak on behalf of
either Harold nor Eckankar in anyway whatsoever.
ALL conflict issues between this fool Matthew Sharpe and myself has
absolutley NOTHING to do with Eckankar, nor what I may or may not think
about it, or other spiritual paths and practices.
IF someone wants to know what I actually do think, know and believe, then
do yourself a big favour and NEVER LISTEN to Matthew Sharpe because he has
NO IDEA about me or anything else for the matters.
He certainly DOES NOT TEACH ECKANKAR .. NOR ADHERE TO THEIR HIGH PRINCIPLES
or Ideals that are set for leaders or Initiates.
ONE CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS .... that IS a spiritual truism that fits here.
Douglas Marman is similarly caught in the very same Bind himself.
So Matthew Sharpe is a liar. A fraud and a conman.
He is also an incompetent and a right fool.
Matthew Sharpe is an obsessed internet stalker and serial abuser.
Matthew Sharpe is a Perpetrator who uses and abuses other people for
"sport" and self-aggrandizement.
The evidence here on a.r.e. and in other places should prove this beyond
any doubt to reasonably intelligent, decent and good hearted people.
Seek out good resources online and educate yourself.
http://www.purimbooks.com/pmbooks/13235737-stop-signs.html
http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/online.shtml
http://bullyonline.org/old/related/abuse.htm
.
Kinpa
Jan 29, 2016, 9:41:07 PM1/29/16
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Liar!
> > RE: It is your fear of them that keeps you moving so often.
> >
> > Here is the fool lying as usual. Knows nothing. Pretends he does.
> >
> > I have lived in two different homes the last decade and some. The fool
> > is a dumb idiot as well as a fool.
Another lie!
> >
> > RE: How is Canberra this time of year?
> >
> > It is usually really friggin' hot. It's bushfire season. Anyone interested
> > in local weather of various places in Australia can use the internet.
> > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/act/act/canberra
> >
> > It's a damned site better than the weather in Lexington Michigan.
> > The fool should just Look out the window.
> > http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/lexington-mi/48450/weather-forecast/2211281
I wouldn't know, I don't live there!
> >
> > RE: "Love the way you said you weren't speaking to me and yet spoke to me
> > four or five times since saying that! I must admit, the need to dupe
> > people (the same need that you have) IS just another symptom of
> > Munchausen's Syndrome, so I'm not surprised."
> >
> > Oh out trots the Dr Fool diagnosis again. Only an abuser would keep doing that
> > kind of crap in public. I wonder if he has ever tried this kind of shit out
> > in a saloon bar or on the street or on a train. Nope, cowards are cowards.
You know best about how cowards are, having spent your entire life as one
> > Apparently there's a psychiatrist on the LFN .... like how much does she need
> > therapy herself?
Poor baby can't stand that a professional thinks he is a dolt
> > And the fool is still as dyslexic as ever and proves again he is incapable
> > of middle school level reading comprehension. No wonder he is unemployable.
I own several businesses, being wealthy makes that possible. Not that you are familiar woth that...
> >
> > RE: Thanks SO much for the laughs! The way you continuously fire off lies
> > is truly hilarious! Not that anyone takes you seriously to begin with...least
> > of all me.
> >
> > Of course anyone who knows me well knows that is not accidental. Ever.
> > There's a HUGE difference between acting the fool and BEING one.
One thing you have never understood properly...
> > RE: "Have a wonderful evening however, and may your heart be blessed by
> > Divine Light and Love, and Perfect Health in the Name of the SUGMAD, the
> > ECK, and the Mahanta!"
> >
> > I think that is called duplicitous horse pucky in the US? What kind of a fool
> > would be using such treasured holy phrases to maintain his online abuse and
> > threats upon others. And of course habitual lying to and about others?
> >
> > A complete fool and an idiot would, that's who. Then imagine they can always
> > get away with it because they have always gotten away with it before. Not this
> > time. He's screwed himself totally now.
Only in your imagination....as usual...
> > He also knows what things I say are true .... as he continues to pretend that
> > nothing of it is. Well LFN people ask to see his drivers licence and make of
> > that what you will.
More delusion...typical for sean...
> > I have repeatedly told the abusing coward on a.r.e. that I do not Lie.
> >
> > Except when telling "jokes" or making a "joke".
> >
> > The fool's problem is accurately working out what is the truth and what is
> > the "joke". He will never work it out until the day he receives his just
> > desserts for his disgusting abusive and threatening and defamatory behavior
> > towards others.
Yours shall come to bear upon you MUCH sooner! I look forward to it
> >
> > It won;t happen over night but it will happen. Reports to the FBI have been
> > made about this idiot. Anyone want to see one? Drop me an email.
No they haven't. Only someone like you would pretend his blank discs have ANYTHING on them! LOL but no, you literally have nothing.....delusion is such an amusing thing...
> > More are being prepared. And yes data discs are a part of that.
> >
> > This is not the end of it.
Of your lying and delusions? That I believe....I won't be losing ANY sleep over it though...
> > ---
> >
> >
> > For anyone interested in the truth of matters cultural and psychological .....
> >
> >
> > http://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-americans-dont-get-irony-2015-1
> >
> > http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com.au/2009/05/sarcasm-and-irony.html
> >
> > https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-some-Americans-understand-irony
> >
> > http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows//blog/2013/02/debate-are-americans-sarcasm-literate
> >
> > http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows//blog/2013/02/debate-are-americans-sarcasm-literate
>
More of sean's bullshit.....he REALY hates Americans too...he must be left weak by the thought of us...it makes him feel threatened....what can you expect from a guy that lives on Great Britain's old penal (penile??) colony?
>
> For visitors, the fool's name is Matthew Sharpe.
>
> He's an Eckist, or so he claims.
>
> He claims he is the #2 person who owns the Light force network website.
Never claimed that
> He claims he is responsible as the Webmaster there.
Never claimed that either...telling lies comes easily to you though...
> That he also ruins two other websites, he says.
>
> He plays a "senior" role for "Initiates" on the LFN website.
>
> He calls himself there SHABDA - Preceptor, and a site Guardian.
Wrong again....I never called myself any of those things..
>
> That website has NOTHING to do with Eckankar, the religion, nor Harold Klemp.
>
> That website and the people on it have NO AUTHORITY to speak on behalf of
> either Harold nor Eckankar in anyway whatsoever.
>
> ALL conflict issues between this fool Matthew Sharpe and myself has
> absolutley NOTHING to do with Eckankar, nor what I may or may not think
> about it, or other spiritual paths and practices.
>
> IF someone wants to know what I actually do think, know and believe, then
> do yourself a big favour and NEVER LISTEN to Matthew Sharpe because he has
> NO IDEA about me or anything else for the matters.
>
> He certainly DOES NOT TEACH ECKANKAR .. NOR ADHERE TO THEIR HIGH PRINCIPLES
> or Ideals that are set for leaders or Initiates.
Says the guy that not only knows nothing of Eckankar's "HIGH PRINCIPLES" or of anything that I teach anywhere.....
> ONE CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS .... that IS a spiritual truism that fits here.
And yet you have always done so.....why is that sean? Double standard yet again eh?
> Douglas Marman is similarly caught in the very same Bind himself.
Here goes sean defaming others another time, hardly for the first time...the Lords of Karma know him well, but he knows them not one little bit...oh well, that's a personal issue for him to deal with...
> So Matthew Sharpe is a liar. A fraud and a conman.
Defamation.....It is sad that you felt so threatened by me that you had to say that, but I can live with it....
> He is also an incompetent and a right fool.
More defamation, sean makes a habit of this constantly...
> Matthew Sharpe is an obsessed internet stalker and serial abuser.
Everyone knows that actual stalkers claim themselves the victims of stalking....typical
> Matthew Sharpe is a Perpetrator who uses and abuses other people for
> "sport" and self-aggrandizement.
Lies and defamations....
> The evidence here on a.r.e. and in other places should prove this beyond
> any doubt to reasonably intelligent, decent and good hearted people.
>
> Seek out good resources online and educate yourself.
>
> http://www.purimbooks.com/pmbooks/13235737-stop-signs.html
>
> http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/online.shtml
>
> http://bullyonline.org/old/related/abuse.htm
>
>
>
> .
sean pretends that others listen to him...but the reality is that he has only his club of two members....the karma is likely to be more expensive than he is able to pay....but that's his personal problem...
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