32 Marks?
Alana...@gmail.com
I'm doing some research on the 32 Marks of the Enlightened Body... and
wonder if anyone has PT's version of them lying around in his/her mind,
bookshelf, notepad. My ECK books are part of somebody's collection in
Mexico, and I have little time for scratching around in the local
libraries.
The 32 Marks, just to jog your memory, are attributes of enlightenment,
probably a branch from the same tree that produced the 'Lakkhana Sutra'
- Buddhism's remarks along these lines. Such as:
1. He places his foot evenly on the floor
2. The soles of his feet are imprinted with wheels
3. He has projecting heels
4. He has long fingers and toes
5. He has soft and tender hands and feet
6. He has webbed hands and feet
7. He has arched feet
. . . and so forth. I know that Paul's list was less
physically-descriptive, and I'm curious about his 'variations' on the
theme.
(And just to add some fire-retardant to the inquiry: As for who
exactly might be varying, who might have established the theme, I
couldn't care less. Those determinations are irrelevant -- I'm not
looking from an academic standpoint but rather a structural/practical
sitpoint.)
I'm just trying to get a fix on the relationship between the
metaphorical description and the actual manifestation of these
qualities.
"Got Marks?"
Hand 'em over!
Kissies,
Myst
diseuse, writer, muse
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bill.f...@gmail.com
the books.
Bill Flavell
Rich
I don't remember anything quite like that Mysty, but I'd be interested if
someone comes up with a reference.
Satsang I discourse #4 has "The Thirty-Two Facets of Eckankar" which
doesn't seems to be the same thing that you are asking for.
The Secret Way discourse #11 is "The Characteristics of the God-Realized
State" but there are no physical body discriptions there...
If you'd like info from those respond in private Email.
Aloha,
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JS
on 3/30/06 2:59 pm:
> Hey stranger!<G>
>
> I don't remember anything quite like that Mysty, but I'd be interested if
> someone comes up with a reference.
>
> Satsang I discourse #4 has "The Thirty-Two Facets of Eckankar" which
> doesn't seems to be the same thing that you are asking for.
>
> The Secret Way discourse #11 is "The Characteristics of the God-Realized
> State" but there are no physical body discriptions there...
>
> If you'd like info from those respond in private Email.
>
> Aloha,
"The Precepts of Eckankar" discourse #3 is titled "The Thirty-Two Marks of
the Master".
If I remember correctly, "The Precepts of Eckankar" is no longer offered as
a discourse. I really could be wrong about that, though.
Hope that helps anyway!
--JS
Rich
"JS" <j...@127.0.0.1> wrote
> Rich at dead...@inorbit.com wrote
> on 3/30/06 2:59 pm:
>
>> Hey stranger!<G>
>>
>> I don't remember anything quite like that Mysty, but I'd be interested
>> if
>> someone comes up with a reference.
>>
>> Satsang I discourse #4 has "The Thirty-Two Facets of Eckankar" which
>> doesn't seems to be the same thing that you are asking for.
>>
>> The Secret Way discourse #11 is "The Characteristics of the
>> God-Realized
>> State" but there are no physical body discriptions there...
>>
>> If you'd like info from those respond in private Email.
>>
>> Aloha,
>
> "The Precepts of Eckankar" discourse #3 is titled "The Thirty-Two Marks
> of
> the Master".
>
> If I remember correctly, "The Precepts of Eckankar" is no longer offered
> as
> a discourse. I really could be wrong about that, though.
>
> Hope that helps anyway!
Wow, you're right JS. What a great memory. I forgot about that decades
ago.<G> I just skimmed it. Again, there are no physical body
descriptions there either Mysty, just characteristics and temperaments.
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Alana...@gmail.com
Thank you SO much. I'll go jump in later tomorrow and unearth those
discourses. While there may not be 'physical' qualities involved in
Paulji's list, the figures used by Buddhism unfold into 'Aha!' moments
as the contemplator breaks through to an understanding of their roots
in a particular Wisdom. There may be other aspects that Buddhism
doesn't cover. . . I'm just going to take a look.
When you consider how much the man knew before there was even a decent
library (Alexandria burned, you know) of planetary esoterica, you have
to be a little bit impressed. He was humming and cooking before the
Nag Hammadi was discovered, before the poetic/scholarly translations of
the Shadb Bards, before any of the Western releases of the Blue Annals
or even a decent translation of the Tripitaka. The deeper into
these literatures I go, the more amazed I am to glance over and see
tiny referents, sometimes just barely there, scattered throughout PTs
writings.
If nothing else, he was a relentless (and uncanny) reader.
Thanks again!
M.
Rich
<Alana...@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi Rich, Bill and Mystery JS...
>
> Thank you SO much. I'll go jump in later tomorrow and unearth those
> discourses. While there may not be 'physical' qualities involved in
> Paulji's list, the figures used by Buddhism unfold into 'Aha!' moments
> as the contemplator breaks through to an understanding of their roots
> in a particular Wisdom. There may be other aspects that Buddhism
> doesn't cover. . . I'm just going to take a look.
It's re-searching that often brings that 'Aha!' moment. Comparing
different approaches, SOC's or memes of the same 'thing' can be
enlightening and fill in another degree to ones perception of the 360.
> When you consider how much the man knew before there was even a decent
> library (Alexandria burned, you know) of planetary esoterica, you have
> to be a little bit impressed. He was humming and cooking before the
> Nag Hammadi was discovered, before the poetic/scholarly translations of
> the Shadb Bards, before any of the Western releases of the Blue Annals
> or even a decent translation of the Tripitaka. The deeper into
> these literatures I go, the more amazed I am to glance over and see
> tiny referents, sometimes just barely there, scattered throughout PTs
> writings.
>
> If nothing else, he was a relentless (and uncanny) reader.
It was a mind blower to me to recognize that he was able to homogenize
what he read, past life experiences, and his 'real' time experience into
an overall higher perspective that I could, and am still digesting.
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