Sawan, Charan, & Kirpal Singh?
Etznab
Could somebody explain the relationship between
Sawan Singh, Charan Singh, & Kirpal Singh? Were
they all from the same line of Masters?
I'll start this off with some trivia I compiled already:
1858 - Birth / Sawan Singh - "SAWAN SINGH (1858-
1948 A.D.) - The Great Master who succeeded Baba
Jaimal Singh Ji Maharaj at Beas."
http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/gloss.htm]
*Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Sawan_Singh
*Trivia: "[....] In fact, except for Maharaj Charan Singh,
the Satguru at Beas from 1951 to 1990, Sawan Singh
attracted the largest following of any shabd yoga master
in history, initiating more than 125,000 people into the
mystic practice. [....]"
http://vclass.mtsac.edu:930/phil/saint.htm
1891 - Founded / Radha Soami Satsang Beas - 1891:
Radha Soami Satsang Beas (RSSB) was founded by
Baba Jaimal Singh Ji Maharaj in 1891 at a site called
Dera Baba Jaimal Singh on the West bank of the River
Beas in the Punjab of Northern India. [1] Jaimal Singh
was one of six people who over a period of about nine
years came to be regarded as spiritual successors of
Shiv Dayal Singh, the first Satguru of "Radhasoami
Faith," often referred to as Sant Mat, a movement of
Surat Shabd Yoga, which includes esoteric teaching
about the Shabd. A chart of this RSSB lineage and
the five other successor lineages helps show the
connections among many of the Sant Mat guru lines
and branches. [2] The RSSB lineage of spiritual leaders
with the dates of their births, deaths, and tenures is
as follows:
Baba Jaimal Singh (1839 - 1903): 1891 - 1903
Baba Sawan Singh (1858 - 1948): 1903 - 1948
Sardar Bahadur Jagat Singh (1884 - 1951): 1948 - 1951
Maharaj Ji Charan Singh (1902 - 1990): 1951 - 1990
Baba Gurinder Singh (1954 - ): 1990 - Present
Adherents worldwide number in the neighborhood
of 2,000,000 people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radha_Soami_Satsang_Beas
*********
I read on a thread recently something about Paul
Twitchell and his relationship with Kirpal Singh. And
something to the effect that Paul Twitchell "broke with"
Master Kirpal Singh.
In another place I remember Paul Twitchell saying
something to the effect that a particular line of masters
stopped with Sawan Singh. Something of that nature.
At any rate, back to Kirpal Singh. Where does he
(Kirpal Singh) fit in? Did Kirpal "break with" any of
his previous Masters? I guess this is the question
that I have.
Since all three of these Masters go by the last
name of Singh, I'll return to the timeline for more
trivia by doing a page search for the name Singh.
I'm hoping that some of this trivia will help:
1676 - Guru Gobind Singh - "GOBIND SINGH, Guru
(Ministry 1676-1708) - A soldier-saint ranking as tenth
in succession to Nanak, brought about the transform-
ation of Sikhs (mere disciples) into Singhs (militant
lions), a martial race for the defense of the country
against injustice and tyranny of the rulers, and gave
the new institution the name of Khalsa - the brother-
hood of the pure, by a form of baptism, called Khanda-
di-Pahul or 'Baptism of the Sword.' "
http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/gloss.htm]
1818 - Birth / Seth Shiv Dayal Singh - August 25th,
1818: "SHIV DAYAL SINGH JI, Soami (1818-1878) -
Seth Shiv Dayal Singh Ji of Agra, popularly known
as Soami Ji Maharaj who, in the modern age, revived
the teachings of ancient Masters including those of the
later times like Kabir and Nanak; with emphasis on
the Surat Shabd Yoga or Yoga of the Sound Current
providing way back to the Kingdom of God from where
this creative life-principle descended."
http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/gloss.htm
1839 - Guru Jaimal Singh - "JAIMAL SINGH (1839 -
1903 A.D.)-A soldier-saint initiated into the sacred
teachings of Surat Shabd Yoga by Soami Ji Maharai
of Agra, who deputed Him to carry on His Mission in
the Punjab so as to repay, in some measure, the debt
the world owed to Guru Nanak who came from the
Punjab and whose teachings had imbibed and in-
fluenced Soami Jo Maharaj. Baba Jaimal Singh Ji
in his turn, left his spiritual mantle on Hazur Baba
awan [Typo? Should be Sawan?] Singh Ji. "
[Brackets text added for clarity - D.R.D.]
http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/gloss.htm
1858 - Birth / Sawan Singh - "SAWAN SINGH (1858 -
1948 A.D.) - The Great Master who succeeded Baba
Jaimal Singh Ji Maharaj at Beas."
http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/gloss.htm
(Some of this is repetitious information given again
in order to try and illustrate a timeline.)
1894 - Birth / Kirpal Singh - February 6th, 1894:
Sant Kirpal Singh (6 February 1894-21 August 1974)
was a Guru who was born in Sayyad Kasran, a part of
the Punjab which now belongs to Pakistan.
He taught the unity of all religions and the birthright of
man to attain self-knowledge and God-knowledge. Under
the guidance of his Surat Shabd Yoga or Sant Mat guru,
Baba Sawan Singh, of Radha Soami Satsang Beas,
(see also "A brief life-sketch of Hazur Baba Sawan
Singh Ji" [1] and "How I met my Master" [2]) he says
he experienced what is described in the scriptures
about God. According to his disciples, he dedicated
his whole life to the ideal of unity: the brotherhood of
man under the fatherhood of God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpal_Singh
*********
I'm not clear on where Kirpal Singh fits in to the
lineage of Masters. In some places it says that he
was a follower of Sawan Singh, but then I don't find
him listed in the lineage of Masters.
Who appointed Kirpal Singh a Master? Himself?
Did Kirpal Singh split off and form his own teaching?
This is what I am not sure about. Here is more trivia:
1903 - "Sawan Singh" - 1903? "[....] Because of his
exceptional spiritual state, Sawan Singh was appointed
by Baba Jaimal Singh to be his successor shortly before
his death in 1903. Sawan Singh carried on his master's
mission with remarkable aptitude, spreading the message
of humankind's divine heritage throughout India.
Sawan Singh gathered a large following of disciples from
around the world. Among his devotees were Dr. Julian P.
Johnson, Dr. Pierre Schmidt, Col. C.W. Sanders, Sant
Kirpal Singh (founder of Ruhani Satsang), Sant Darshan
Singh (founder of Sawan-Kirpal Mission), Baba Somanath,
Pritam Das, and several government officials in both the
British and Indian ranks.
Huzur Sawan Singh died on April 2, 1948, just days after appointing
Jagat Singh as his spiritual successor. [....]
[Based on: http://vclass.mtsac.edu:930/phil/saint.htm]
*Trivia: "[....] It was also interesting to see that Jaimal
Singh, the founder of the Beas Radhasoami group, had
also studied with Salig Ram, as well as Shiv Dayal Singh,
the founder of Radhasoami. And Sawan Singh had contact
with the Sant Sat Gurus of the Parent Faith as well.
Sawan attended the satsang of Babuji on a few occasions,
and when he did so he sat on the floor at the feet of Babuji amongst
the other satsangis. Sawan Singh was the last
of the Beas gurus to have direct contact with the Sant
Sat Gurus of the Parent Faith. Is this why both Jaimal and Sawan's
writings seem so much more alive than any that
followed them in the Beas teaching? Is this why Paul
[Paul Twitchell] once observed that the line of spirituality
in the Beas group stopped with Sawan Singh? [....]"
[Based on: Dialogue in the Age of Criticism, Chap. 12]
Hear again is some sort of reference to a "line" of
something stopping with Sawan Singh.
So this is about all I have for the name "Singh", as
I am not going to get into the subject of Sudar Singh,
or what happened between Paul Twitchell and Kirpal
Singh later on down the line. The main question is:
What line of Masters did Kirpal Singh belong to and
who did he succeed?
Etznab
P.S. Sorry for the length and the disjointed timeline
illustration. I have all of this and much more spelled
out in perfect chronological order on another timeline.
Unfortunately, perhaps, it is no longer available on
the Web. Wish it were, as that would make it much
easier to reference this information.
Etznab
This is a continuation of the previous post:
1947 - Trivia / Master Kirpal Singh? - In 1955 he [Kirpal Singh]
wrote, "The authority of giving initiation into the beyond and
contacting with the Word, which he [Sawan Singh] vouchsafed
to me verbally on October 12, 1947, was thus completely transferred
while going. The intoxication of that glance is still the life of my
soul."
[Message on the death anniversary of Hazur Baba Sawan Singh
Ji Maharaj. April 2, 1955] (Probably c. Ruhani) [....] I do not like
to
say anything about the activities of Sardar Kirpal Singh's group,
called Ruhani Satsang. . . . Since you have inquired, you are
entitled to an answer, so I will simply add that the Great Master
[Sawan Singh] never did appoint him as His Successor. He appointed
Sardar Bahadur Maharaj Jagat Singh Ji, in a witnessed and recorded
Will, to carry on all His Spiritual Work. If anybody else is bold
enough
to assert himself as the Great Master's Successor, then I can simply
leave it to the sagacity of the seekers to judge his claim. The Great
Master's Representatives in the foreign countries also have
photostatic
copies of the documents proving Successorship, and the one nearest
you will be glad to show them to you on request.
http://www.angelfire.com/band/radhasoamisantmath/
*********
Evidently, there is controversy in most "lines" of Masters.
However, does it really matter most who follows who? Or is
it more important to look at the teachings of any particular
Master and follow the one who suits you best?
You know, one could look for the actual history of the Eck
line of Masters and become most disappointed from a lack
of physical records. What I mean to say is that history and
Myth are blended together to such an extent that one can
become lost trying to sort it all out. This is why I question
what is most important, the messenger or the message -
and what that amounts to for any particular person.
The lineage of the Pope appears to merge with Myth
when you go back far enough in time. And the history
(not to mention the actual teachings and truth) of the
other major religions doesn't fare much better when it
comes to finding their actual histories either. Because
there, one can find history blended with Myth too.
At the same time, does this mean that Religion has
not anything good to offer? when it isn't absolutely sure
about it's own past history? I think this is for each one
of us to decide ourselves what matters most.
Personally though, I do find it intriguing that religious
history is sometimes no closer to the truth than modern
physics. Meaning simply, sometimes the best these can
do is guess. Science has Theory. Religion has Myth. So
what ever happened to the actual truth?
ARE WE THERE YET ??? :)
Etznab
Doug
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> read more »
Etznab
I can fill in a lot of the details, but don't have time right now.
Write to me in a week if you want to remind me.
Here is a web site to check out that has an unofficial take and shares
some of the things you won't normally hear:
http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/index.html
I don't agree with everything here, but most of it is true.
Doug.
Etznab
Doug,
It's not such a big deal to me. Especially now.
By asking the question I forced a review which
brought it's own answers. Some (from others)
that I didn't even expect.
Actually, I find the threads this evening are fun
to read. Ask and you shall receive :)
Either that, or throw out some controversial
material and see what happens.
Either way, I'm pleasently surprised :)
Etznab
JS
1190503172.7...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com, "Etznab"
<etz...@aol.com> wrote:
This might be of help to you (yes, there are two http's in there, but it's
all one URL -- you might have to copy and paste rather than click):
http://web.archive.org/web/20070624003905/http://santmat-meditation.net/guru
/chart.html
Also, regarding the subject of any line of masters: I can suggest that some
particular attention be given to the word "line", what meanings that word
might convey, and why we might use a word like that.
Thinking of some of the different "lines" that we human beings talk about: a
line of words, a line of people, a line of ants, a line of trees, a skyline,
a coastline, a boundary line, a history line, a timeline, a ley line, a
communication line, a line of rhythm, a ray of light, a horizon, a spiritual
path, a Usenet thread... Really, do any of them truly exist -- I mean, as
lines? When I look more closely at a line -- say, a line of ants -- where is
the line anymore? I begin to see the gaps. I begin to see the branches. Some
of the lines begin to look more like double-lines, triple-lines, or ovals,
or loop-backs, or shadows. I begin to find that there is more plain space
than anything else. The more closely I look at any line, the less "line"
there is. And whatever line is there, it is always changing, shifting,
solidifying, disappearing. Yet I so often seem to want to create in my mind
and in my eye a line -- or perhaps it is a beam?
Supposedly it was Gertrude Stein who said "There are no straight lines in
nature." I think any true artist who is a student of life knows that there
are no wiggly crooked ones either.
Something much deeper and wider and more alive and more present than any
mere line is going on here.
At least that's my line of thought.
--JS
Etznab
>
> Also, regarding the subject of any line of masters: I can suggest that some
> particular attention be given to the word "line", what meanings that word
> might convey, and why we might use a word like that.
>
> Thinking of some of the different "lines" that we human beings talk about: a
> line of words, a line of people, a line of ants, a line of trees, a skyline,
> a coastline, a boundary line, a history line, a timeline, a ley line, a
> communication line, a line of rhythm, a ray of light, a horizon, a spiritual
> path, a Usenet thread... Really, do any of them truly exist -- I mean, as
> lines? When I look more closely at a line -- say, a line of ants -- where is
> the line anymore? I begin to see the gaps. I begin to see the branches. Some
> of the lines begin to look more like double-lines, triple-lines, or ovals,
> or loop-backs, or shadows. I begin to find that there is more plain space
> than anything else. The more closely I look at any line, the less "line"
> there is. And whatever line is there, it is always changing, shifting,
> solidifying, disappearing. Yet I so often seem to want to create in my mind
> and in my eye a line -- or perhaps it is a beam?
>
> Supposedly it was Gertrude Stein who said "There are no straight lines in
> nature." I think any true artist who is a student of life knows that there
> are no wiggly crooked ones either.
>
> Something much deeper and wider and more alive and more present than any
> mere line is going on here.
>
> At least that's my line of thought.
>
> --JS
I think I'm starting to learn another language. Can't be
sure of the name right now.
Etznab
Sean
Doug,
It's not such a big deal to me. Especially now.
By asking the question I forced a review which
brought it's own answers. Some (from others)
that I didn't even expect.
Actually, I find the threads this evening are fun
to read. Ask and you shall receive :)
Either that, or throw out some controversial
material and see what happens.
Either way, I'm pleasently surprised :)
Etznab
-------------------------------------------------
Hi Etznab,
It's nice to see you :)ing more these days about your enquiries! I'm not
surprised. <smile>
oseru...@gmail.com
It is the religion of Man,purely
Esoteric. It is what is left of
Esoteric religion when all the rituals
And laws are removed: LOVE unmitigated
By any human of quasi divine
Circumstances and rules. When a
A so-called Master of Sant Mat
Besides preaching the Shabd and has
Aura of love and devotion,and is busy
Affirming his right to the line of
Succession, then he begs another name.
I have experienced both Kurpal and
Hazur in my modest ways and I find
They are one and the same coin divine.
I am yet to prove the rest, for even
The Master Rajinder Singh says, 'don't
Believe it until you see it for
Yourself' emphasising Kirpal's quote,
'Seeing is believing'. I'd say
Regarding Paul JACOB Twitchell,
Beware of western contacts with
Purity.
Thanks
MichaelT...@yahoo.com
When Shiv Dayal (aka Soamiji) died, Saligram took over the main center in Agra, and Jaimal went to the Punjab and began giving Shabda initiation there. Jaimal's main disciple was Sawan Singh, a military engineer. Sawan built a home and Satsang hall for Jaimal near Beas, India, and when Jaimal died, he appointed Sawan as his successor.
Sawan served as "Great Master" in Beas for nearly 45 years - from 1903 to 1948. during this time the Radhasoami colony in Beas, which had started out very small, grew exponentially, and with it the number of disciples. Among Sawan's closest Satsangis were Kirpal Singh, Jagat Singh and Charan Singh (Sawan's grandson).
When Sawan died, his Will named Jagat Singh as his legal successor and heir to the Dera (Radhasoami) at Beas. At the same time, Kirpal Singh also claimed successorship, stating that, while Sawan had bequeathed the colony property to Jagat Singh, Sawan bestowed his spiritual wealth on Kirpal Singh and told him to leave the Dera and start fresh in Sawan's name.
Most students stuck with Jagat Singh and the Dera, but some left with Kirpal Singh in 1948 and 1949. In 1955, Kirpal made his first strip to the USA. During this tour, he gave several Satsangs and Initiation in Washington D.C. Among those he initiated was Paul Twitchell. In 1963, when Kirpal was making his second US tour, Paul introduced Gail to him for initiation (I believe it was while he was in Seattle). You can see in Letters to Gail III where Paul talks to Gail about his Master in a a manner indicating she has met him.
Meanwhile, back at the Dera, Jagat Singh only survived Sawan Singh by less than three years, but before he died he named Charan Singh - Sawan's grandson - and his successor. Charan took over the Dera at the age of 34 in (I believe) 1951, and served as Master there for nearly 40 years, passing in 1990. His nephew, Gurinder Singh, has led the Dera since then.
I hope this little Cliffs Notes summation helps.
Peace,
Michael
Henosis Sage
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPbXp3eTRneU85NFk (ignore 1912 date it's wrong)
and doesn't match up with using 'paul' twitchell with 1912 dob ref. but he does a "switch"
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPSGtvRU5vSl9WNWc
jacob paul 22 oct 1909
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPVkt0UzBRbnJRTTA
then there is the divorce decree in caps JACOB PAUL TWITCHELL - due to desertion on 1st Oct 1955 - immediately after Twitchell was initiated into Ruhani Satsang (Sant Mat) then accompanied/travelled with Shri Kirpal Singh to Boston from DC.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPX0hLb0szTWRfZW8
In the geneology twitchell book he's Paul 23rd Oct 1909
aka
Jacob P. Twitchell
J. Paul Twitchell
P. Twitchell
Paul Twitchell
None of the above matches up with 1936 self-reported WhosWho data as 'John Paul b1908', the one and only time that name "john paul" shows up in all the historical research to date. "John" is incorrect based on original family tree info. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPbW9MbkhCZkoxaEk
But the thing is, in 1936 Twitchell refers to himself as John Paul 22/10/1908 and then in 1942 he is Jacob Paul Twitchell 22/10/1912 getting married and divorced based on a 'fake/false' birth certificate.
Then later in 1963 he becomes Paul Twitchell now b1922, only 40 years old in a Seattle Newspaper and in Jan 1964 he's marrying Gail 21yrs old.
The thing is that there was a fire which destroyed mccracken county records in about 1912 or later in 1919. It included the birth records for all the Twitchell children 1902-1909 at Paducah, which is why there are none today. the 1912 cert was 'made up' on the spot in May 1941 by Jacob Noah who obtained a "record copy" for PT.... who had enlisted in the USNR in 1942-02-02.
father Jacob Noah Twitchell (aka Jake)
mother Effie Dorothy Troutman
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPSWxJVkhkWk5ZOHM
and fwiw
Buffalo Bill’s show first rolled into Paducah on October 5, 1897 and was advertised in the Paducah Daily Sun for nearly a month prior. The regular advertisement for the extravaganza promised no fewer than 100 Indian Warriors, 50 American Cowboys, 30 South American Gauchos, 50 Western Frontiersmen & Marksmen, 25 Bedouin Arabs, 20 Russian Cossacks, as well as a bevy of Cavalry, Lancers, German Cuirassiers, and live buffalo. Add to this three bands, trick horses, a parade (led by Colonel Cody himself), a display of 250,000 electric lights (still a relative oddity for those days), and the famed Annie Oakley, and you’ve got yourself one rip roaring festival.
The fairgrounds were erected at Tenth and Boyd streets. Buffalo Bill’s advertisements boasted tents that could hold 20,000, and by all accounts, it seems that Paducah might have reached that number. In the following day’s paper under the headline “Whew, What a Crowd,” the Paducah Daily Sun stated that folks came to town from as far away as Chattanooga and St. Louis to see the show. “They arrived in wagon loads, boat loads, carriage loads, and train loads. No adequate means of transportation could be found.”
Among the crowd of the thousands who witnessed Buffalo Bill’s grand performances in 1897 were a pair of brothers, Ed and Fletcher Terrell. The Terrell Brothers were no strangers to the entertainment business as they were already the owners and operators of a small circus and of Morton’s Opera House which stood at 4th and Broadway. Surely inspired by Buffalo Bill, his fame and success, the brothers decided to start their own Wild West show, based right here in Paducah. They named their show Buckskin Bill’s Wild West Show, and found a star with the moniker Colonel V.F. Cody, as opposed to Buffalo Bill’s true name W. F. Cody.
The first mention of their enterprise reached the Paducah paper on December 22, 1899: “The wild west show that Messrs. Terrell are to start on the road in the spring is the ‘Buckskin Bill Wild West Show,” which was incorporated a few months ago by these gentlemen. These gentlemen…have purchased the Bothe Wagon factory and will use it as a winter quarters for their show. The knowledge they have of the business and the preparations they are making for the show insures their success.”
And preparations they did make; the papers for the next few months are full of notices of the arrivals of all sorts of performers. Success, however, was much harder to come by. Almost from the onset in the spring of 1900, the Buckskin Bill show was besieged by tragedy and criminality. The list is of offenses is mind-blowing: an 18 year old horse rider, Theresa Russell, was dragged to death by her horse during a performance; one of the show’s snake handlers tried to commit suicide in front of the crowd by downing a bottle of laudanum; a spectator was killed in a shootout with some of the show’s “cowboys;” a 15-year-old girl from Vanceburg, Illinois was kidnapped by some of the men from the show, the Terrell’s Opera House burned to the ground by disgruntled Buckskin Bill employees, and an assassination plot against Fletcher Terrell was hatched…but not realized.
The Buckskin Bill show was jinxed, at least in the hands of the Terrells who ultimately sold their show a year and a half later to a Chicago firm, who in turn sold the show to Frank Jesse and Cole Younger of the James-Younger Gang. Still traveling under the name Buckskin Bill, the show found moderate success under new management.
Just around the time Buckskin Bill’s left Paducah in 1901, Buffalo Bill returned to town with his show. Held on October 3, 1901 behind the I.C.R.R. hospital, Buffalo Bill’s show enjoyed the same phenomenal success it had enjoyed in 1897. “Combining as it does so much that is instructive as well as entertaining, so much of history mixed with romance, Buffalo Bill’s Wild West never palls on the public taste, but the more it visits us the more we see of it, the heartier is our welcome for it.” (Paducah Sun, 1901).
11892116_429144067273364_7815843101531993689_nAmong the performers in that October 3, 1901 show was our birthday girl, Annie Oakley. The Paducah show proved to be one of her last performances with Buffalo Bill. A little over three weeks later one of Buffalo Bill’s trains was hit head-on by another train in North Carolina, an accident that left Oakley temporarily paralyzed from spinal damage and ending her traveling career with Buffalo Bill.
To learn more about the Wild West, be sure to visit us in the Local and Family History Department at the McCracken County Public Library. And if you like this article, make sure to “like” our Facebook page.
–Matt Jaeger
Henosis Sage
> Good question on Sant Mat lineage. In a nutshell, Shiv Dayal Singh was the modern founder of Surat Shabda. He had two key disciples in his entourage: Rai Saligram and Jaimal Singh.
>
> When Shiv Dayal (aka Soamiji) died, Saligram took over the main center in Agra, and Jaimal went to the Punjab and began giving Shabda initiation there. Jaimal's main disciple was Sawan Singh, a military engineer. Sawan built a home and Satsang hall for Jaimal near Beas, India, and when Jaimal died, he appointed Sawan as his successor.
>
> Sawan served as "Great Master" in Beas for nearly 45 years - from 1903 to 1948. during this time the Radhasoami colony in Beas, which had started out very small, grew exponentially, and with it the number of disciples. Among Sawan's closest Satsangis were Kirpal Singh, Jagat Singh and Charan Singh (Sawan's grandson).
>
> When Sawan died, his Will named Jagat Singh as his legal successor and heir to the Dera (Radhasoami) at Beas. At the same time, Kirpal Singh also claimed successorship, stating that, while Sawan had bequeathed the colony property to Jagat Singh, Sawan bestowed his spiritual wealth on Kirpal Singh and told him to leave the Dera and start fresh in Sawan's name.
>
> Most students stuck with Jagat Singh and the Dera, but some left with Kirpal Singh in 1948 and 1949. In 1955, Kirpal made his first strip to the USA. During this tour, he gave several Satsangs and Initiation in Washington D.C. Among those he initiated was Paul Twitchell. In 1963, when Kirpal was making his second US tour, Paul introduced Gail to him for initiation (I believe it was while he was in Seattle). You can see in Letters to Gail III where Paul talks to Gail about his Master in a a manner indicating she has met him.
>
> Meanwhile, back at the Dera, Jagat Singh only survived Sawan Singh by less than three years, but before he died he named Charan Singh - Sawan's grandson - and his successor. Charan took over the Dera at the age of 34 in (I believe) 1951, and served as Master there for nearly 40 years, passing in 1990. His nephew, Gurinder Singh, has led the Dera since then.
>
> I hope this little Cliffs Notes summation helps.
>
> Peace,
>
> Michael
>
>
some RS linages fwiw
https://medium.com/sant-mat-radhasoami-books/guru-lineage-charts-sant-mat-radhasoami-surat-shabd-yoga-kabir-sikh-dadu-dariya-tulsi-sahib-a2cb6a98bf31
seems to me two or more panths/groups seem to arise and survive from each 'teacher/leader/initiator' ... the general linage seems clear back to Sant Kabir with both muslim and hindu influences/roots. There are sufi islam lines and influences. Including from guru nanak and the sikhs (islam hindu again mixed) all a strong influence and part of shiv dayal singhs make up and understanding and world views. All of these streams and riverlets flow in and out of surat shabd yoga radhasoami teachings practices etc.
Twitchell introduced and taught the same 'stuff' and ways of thinking in eckankar imo - predominantly the RS Beas Sawan Kirpal Singh Kabir Sufi Sikh 'variety'. imho.
However he did copy from "Hazur Maharaj, Rai Salig Ram 2nd SSG RS Agra" of the Parent Faith. And odd that both sudarshan singh and babuji majaraj (Prasad sinha) were both ensconced in Allahabad until 1935ish re sudar singh. It's about halfway between Agra/Beas and Varanasi (benares) where Kabir mostly lived.
I do not think the made up names, the fictionalized history, or the mixing in of new thought, scientology, hypnotism, theosophy and fiction novelists was at all helpful or necessary.
But whatever. :-]
Gursimer Singh Sethi
It's like 2 different Toppers Studying in the same Class. After they got grown up, both Param Sant Kirpal Singh Ji Maharaj & Maharaj Jagat Singh/Charan Singh Ji decided to expand their Master's Teachings.
Also, we can say that- to spread the path of Spirituality Internationally, Hazur Baba Sawan Singh Ji Maharaj instructed one to sit at Beas & His other Loving Disciples to go to Delhi, Sirsa etc. for his Spiritual Mission.