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Henosis Sage

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Eckankar is known as the "ancient science of soul travel" and the "religion of the light and

sound of god". According to the literature, Eckankar is the highest most direct path to 'God'.

Eckankar teaches that all other paths and religions have come out of the inner planes through

Eckankar, the Eck (spirit), and the ECK masters. This makes Eckankar the supreme ideal

teaching and as such promotes itself above all others. [TFC 1.]


1. (Twitchell, 1971)

Introduction: http://www.scribd.com/doc/125472845/Far‐Country‐017342‐Mbp

Page 7: "The Far Country is a matchless piece of literature of divine wisdom"

Page 8: "... in the study of this manuscript he will come to know that ECK is the highest of all paths to God.

That there is no other way to gain spiritual enlightenment. Paul Twitchell"



There are many who have learned much from this spiritual development teaching

nevertheless. Depending on the individual Eckankar can be of great value on many levels

including psychologically and spiritually. It does delve into a deeper understanding of

spiritual energies and soul travel, also known as out-of-body experiences or above body

consciousness.

However people must not confuse the name and the meaning of the name with the teaching

itself, but instead understand the teachings as being that which is being promoted and sold by

an organization.

The name Eckankar itself (a misspelling of Ekankar), is one which is universal in application, and

in that sense the name may be said to be inclusive of all spiritual development paths.

Yet this universal idea (the one all‐inclusiveness of God, the Unmanifest‐Manifested ‐ Ekankar) and the

methodology to spiritual development taught can and does have many names. That wherein

an action is given a particular name and that action is seen to be the only route, and people

promote that action under that name, then in that frame of reference, it could be said to be the

highest most direct path.

As an example, a person could begin any organization which states that the true route to

enlightenment is through enlightenment, and this founder could coin a new word to explain

enlightenment, to describe enlightenment: for example, a word such as 'Gramenif'.

The person then can state in all reality and honesty that Gramenif is the only route to true

enlightenment. If Gramenif itself means enlightenment, then in that frame of reference, the

Gramenif path is the highest most direct path to true enlightenment.

In a very accurate sense this is exactly what has been done with the ECKANKAR teachings,

along with many others like it. The fact is that the route to true enlightenment is through

personal attention given toward spiritual development under whatever worldly name is used.

It's the process itself that matters more, not the name, the outer coverings, nor the exceptional

details of this path or that path.

The action and process of moving through guidance from masters, of moving through

devotion to hierarchy systems is being somewhere between the path of service and the path of

alchemy. That wherein people join a movement to give service to an organization and to the

hierarchy system, the various gurus, teachers and spiritual leaders of that, this kind of

surrender and devotion to deities and masters is but a form of service that is of an alchemist

coloration.

The service of worshiping, or devotion, does indeed relate unto certain levels of alchemy and

can be very beneficial. This can be much quicker than the mere service to a neighbor or

friend, to ones community or church group.

There are other alchemical routes which effectively function more quickly for these purposes

as well. Most provide basic development classes, books of instructions, discourses and the

like. These work through symbology, through mythology, through suggestion, though

meditative practice and various alchemist methods which lead people quickly, as if through

many lifetimes of human spiritual development. These may be referred to as learning and

practicing Mastery over the forces of self and into the mystery of life itself.

These directions may be more quickly experienced by some people than others. Individuals

may choose routes which are slower and more detailed. People who feel a need to move

rapidly in spiritual development may choose the Eck path or may choose other paths which

move even more quickly. However, it is not that important if people develop quickly or not.

What is far more important is that people understood their movement, their own changes and

shifts in awareness, and understand clearly which way they are going. Know exactly how

they got there and are oriented well on their path and can, upon arrival, be of service to

themselves and others. Then they can truly say that they enjoy the activities of living as well

as assisting and serving life itself.




So those who wish to participate in the Eck path may find many values and benefits in this

action. Remembering that, there are other paths and practices which are available and quite

beneficial in numerous ways as well. Caution and common sense is required by people that

though many paths claim to be the only or highest or fastest path, this is not necessarily so.

Wherein you look at the roads toward spiritual divinity you will come to the toll gate. You

listen to the advertisements and promises made before arriving at the toll gate, where you will

invariably notice signs which state: "This is the Royal Road, this is the greatest and most

Glorious Path of all Paths."

You do not need to believe every advertisement that is presented. That you check out the

various paths and consider carefully the cost of traveling each, and talk to those who have

traveled those routes before you. Then ask yourself if you really want to be where they are or

not. If that is where you wish to arrive, then perhaps that is the 'glory road' you seek, at least

for now.

In the event that you wish to pursue the exploration of above body consciousness and the

astral world, it would be advisable to study that which is known as Sant Mat, the path of the

saints. This being from India, an ancient system of knowledge has quite valuable information.

Particularly the book, 'Liberation of the Soul' by J. Stanley White, is suggested as a good

introductory guide of what is involved in this particular system.

This book could be very beneficial as it deals with the activity of attuning yourself to the

sound current, which leads to the Divine. Eckankar is that which is a splinter group or a

tributary from this Sant Mat path of the saints. Paul Twitchell received an initiation in this

order and brought out his teaching in part to the United States and elsewhere through a quite

different form as his Eckankar organization.

Paul Twitchell also drew on many other forms of human philosophy, religious practice and

beliefs, spiritualism, and early 20th century New Thought psychology. He then incorporated,

as well as misrepresented, the multiplicity of these competing and conflicting ideas into the

new codified system he named Eckankar.

The Path of the Saints and following the sound current is that which can be of greater benefit

to many in moving through the astral planes and other planes with a greater understanding.

There are many other systems of a parallel nature in existence today, whereby people may

also benefit from exploring the astral planes and inner regions of activity.

In almost all cases it is necessarily very important to have good personal guidance in such

exploration, and that you not pursue such activity on your own. Some people can move

through the astral planes without such guidance, being that they are strong in their rational

minds and naturally capable of discerning energies and realizing that they do not have to be

victimized by any energy of consciousness.

Rather that they are already masters over their own thought processes, and that which is

created by those thought processes. Some naturally advanced people such as Aleister

Crowley could move through these areas without being caught in the energy field. Almost all

other people in moving through such energy fields would become absorbed by the energies

and manipulated by them too. At times they could feel themselves being victimized by these

energies, and yet not knowing what to do usually led to all kinds of psychic difficulties. [Quoc 2.]


2. a.r.e. post 2005
Protection Failure from the MAHANTA in ECKANKAR
(by Quoc Quy Hoang on 3/1/2005, Internet Search Code: QQH891955-1)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/CRCwR2NcAyA/Jql7z2tiVwIJ



Therefore, this is not something for people to play with, unless they understand what they are

doing, or unless they are being directly guided and personally counseled by those who really

do. Great discernment and caution is required here. Many bold claims, such as ‘The Easy

Way’, are made in the advertisements that lead to the toll gate.



Neil Diamond - Glory Road with lyrics

Caught me a pick-up

Down from Seattle through to L.A.

Seems like those folks

Go chasin' a new star every day.

Ain't gonna stay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJG78or3nM


from: [TEHA 2014] ECKANKAR and other Spiritual Development Paths
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPeHdLNWJubTFfSm8/view?usp=sharing

Kinpa

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Jul 1, 2015, 8:45:08 PM7/1/15
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On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 9:42:40 PM UTC, Henosis Sage wrote:
> Eckankar is known as the "ancient science of soul travel" and the "religion of the light and
>
> sound of god". According to the literature, Eckankar is the highest most direct path to 'God'.
>
> Eckankar teaches that all other paths and religions have come out of the inner planes through
>
> Eckankar, the Eck (spirit), and the ECK masters. This makes Eckankar the supreme ideal
>
> teaching and as such promotes itself above all others. [TFC 1.]
>
>
> 1. (Twitchell, 1971)
>
> Introduction: http://www.scribd.com/doc/125472845/Far‐Country‐017342‐Mbp
>
> Page 7: "The Far Country is a matchless piece of literature of divine wisdom"
>
> Page 8: "... in the study of this manuscript he will come to know that ECK is the highest of all paths to God.
>
> That there is no other way to gain spiritual enlightenment. Paul Twitchell"
>
>
>
> There are many who have learned much from this spiritual development teaching
>
> nevertheless. Depending on the individual Eckankar can be of great value on many levels
>
> including psychologically and spiritually. It does delve into a deeper understanding of
>
> spiritual energies and soul travel, also known as out-of-body experiences or above body
>
> consciousness.
>
> However people must not confuse the name and the meaning of the name with the teaching
>
> itself, but instead understand the teachings as being that which is being promoted and sold by
>
> an organization.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You are welcomed to have your opinion, but that is all that it is...you "sell" it as being more right and correct than Eckankar, but you are unable to prove that in ANY way.....



>
> The name Eckankar itself (a misspelling of Ekankar), is one which is universal in application, and
>
> in that sense the name may be said to be inclusive of all spiritual development paths.
>
> Yet this universal idea (the one all‐inclusiveness of God, the Unmanifest‐Manifested ‐ Ekankar) and the
>
> methodology to spiritual development taught can and does have many names. That wherein
>
> an action is given a particular name and that action is seen to be the only route, and people
>
> promote that action under that name, then in that frame of reference, it could be said to be the
>
> highest most direct path.
>
> As an example, a person could begin any organization which states that the true route to
>
> enlightenment is through enlightenment, and this founder could coin a new word to explain
>
> enlightenment, to describe enlightenment: for example, a word such as 'Gramenif'.
>
> The person then can state in all reality and honesty that Gramenif is the only route to true
>
> enlightenment. If Gramenif itself means enlightenment, then in that frame of reference, the
>
> Gramenif path is the highest most direct path to true enlightenment.
>
> In a very accurate sense this is exactly what has been done with the ECKANKAR teachings,
>
> along with many others like it. The fact is that the route to true enlightenment is through
>
> personal attention given toward spiritual development under whatever worldly name is used.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Opinion once again, with no proof....
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is this you quoting Quoc Quy Hoang or havese been your own opinions? I saw no mention of him until just below...have you purposely written it this way?





>
>
> So those who wish to participate in the Eck path may find many values and benefits in this
>
> action. Remembering that, there are other paths and practices which are available and quite
>
> beneficial in numerous ways as well. Caution and common sense is required by people that
>
> though many paths claim to be the only or highest or fastest path, this is not necessarily so.
>
> Wherein you look at the roads toward spiritual divinity you will come to the toll gate. You
>
> listen to the advertisements and promises made before arriving at the toll gate, where you will
>
> invariably notice signs which state: "This is the Royal Road, this is the greatest and most
>
> Glorious Path of all Paths."
>
> You do not need to believe every advertisement that is presented. That you check out the
>
> various paths and consider carefully the cost of traveling each, and talk to those who have
>
> traveled those routes before you. Then ask yourself if you really want to be where they are or
>
> not. If that is where you wish to arrive, then perhaps that is the 'glory road' you seek, at least
>
> for now.
>
> In the event that you wish to pursue the exploration of above body consciousness and the
>
> astral world, it would be advisable to study that which is known as Sant Mat, the path of the
>
> saints. This being from India, an ancient system of knowledge has quite valuable information.
>
> Particularly the book, 'Liberation of the Soul' by J. Stanley White, is suggested as a good
>
> introductory guide of what is involved in this particular system.
>
> This book could be very beneficial as it deals with the activity of attuning yourself to the
>
> sound current, which leads to the Divine. Eckankar is that which is a splinter group or a
>
> tributary from this Sant Mat path of the saints. Paul Twitchell received an initiation in this
>
> order and brought out his teaching in part to the United States and elsewhere through a quite
>
> different form as his Eckankar organization.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Once again, nothing more than opinion, from one who possesses no experience or ability to do that which he is suggesting is so much better....however, you are quite mistaken with your suppositions about Sant Mat and what you claim is inaccurate at best. You CHOOSE to view it through a very small lense, but that does not quantify the beliefs you are claiming....half the terminology Eckankar uses is from Islam, and much also comes via Sikhism, and these are well known facts.

Sant Mat itself was born from crosscurrents of Sufism and Hinduism, however, both of these trace their origins directly back to Shamanism, which is where sound and light teachings had their birth, to develop experience and interpretations with discernment to the various religions that exist today. The "Master and student" relationship of guidance via personal experience originates from the same. Do the homework, this fact is still taught in every indigenous shamanic cultures to this very day, and even those teach that ALL paths originate from the Absolute, beyond the arena of the mind, as Eckankar has always taught...



>
> Paul Twitchell also drew on many other forms of human philosophy, religious practice and
>
> beliefs, spiritualism, and early 20th century New Thought psychology. He then incorporated,
>
> as well as misrepresented, the multiplicity of these competing and conflicting ideas into the
>
> new codified system he named Eckankar.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Opinion only...and btw new thought originated in the early 19th century...



> The Path of the Saints and following the sound current is that which can be of greater benefit
>
> to many in moving through the astral planes and other planes with a greater understanding.
>
> There are many other systems of a parallel nature in existence today, whereby people may
>
> also benefit from exploring the astral planes and inner regions of activity.
>
> In almost all cases it is necessarily very important to have good personal guidance in such
>
> exploration, and that you not pursue such activity on your own. Some people can move
>
> through the astral planes without such guidance, being that they are strong in their rational
>
> minds and naturally capable of discerning energies and realizing that they do not have to be
>
> victimized by any energy of consciousness.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And they are also held prisoner by the mind...have you attained ANY awareness beyond mind yet?




> Rather that they are already masters over their own thought processes, and that which is
>
> created by those thought processes. Some naturally advanced people such as Aleister
>
> Crowley could move through these areas without being caught in the energy field.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Once again you denote by the use of the term reason, that these "masters" are not at all masters.....and Aleister Crowley was not in any way "naturally advanced." He did not one thing that was noteworthy.



Almost all
>
> other people in moving through such energy fields would become absorbed by the energies
>
> and manipulated by them too. At times they could feel themselves being victimized by these
>
> energies, and yet not knowing what to do usually led to all kinds of psychic difficulties. [Quoc 2.]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So you WERE quoting him?



>
>
> 2. a.r.e. post 2005
> Protection Failure from the MAHANTA in ECKANKAR
> (by Quoc Quy Hoang on 3/1/2005, Internet Search Code: QQH891955-1)
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/CRCwR2NcAyA/Jql7z2tiVwIJ
>
>
>
> Therefore, this is not something for people to play with, unless they understand what they are
>
> doing, or unless they are being directly guided and personally counseled by those who really
>
> do. Great discernment and caution is required here. Many bold claims, such as ‘The Easy
>
> Way’, are made in the advertisements that lead to the toll gate.
>
>
>
> Neil Diamond - Glory Road with lyrics
>
> Caught me a pick-up
>
> Down from Seattle through to L.A.
>
> Seems like those folks
>
> Go chasin' a new star every day.
>
> Ain't gonna stay...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJG78or3nM
>
>
> from: [TEHA 2014] ECKANKAR and other Spiritual Development Paths
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPeHdLNWJubTFfSm8/view?usp=sharing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Did you write to Eckankar yet? I know of a good way you can prove you own ANY of the previously copyrighted materials that you bought and photographed! I'll send your links to that archive to Eckankar and the companies that owned the copyrighted materials in those magazines! You WILL have prove you are holding registered copyrights being that you ARE the claimant....you'd let a few publishers and lawyers examine your materials wouldn't you?

Right back at you with the copyright infringement accusations! Let's DO this!

Etznab

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Jul 1, 2015, 9:29:59 PM7/1/15
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The same can be said about your opinions.

Kinpa

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Jul 1, 2015, 9:50:22 PM7/1/15
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Mine are not opinions, and I prove them often....by personal experience rather than the limited means you use, that of refusing to believe only what has been written down....as for what I said about shamans, I work with some twenty or so on a daily basis, from combined Yoruban and Brazilian cultures, you may believe whatever you'd like, but these shamans work with ECK Masters also, as well as beings that are not from Eckankar...no one even uses books to do these things, but meetings out of body happen often...therefore, as I said, even shamans use conscious out of body travel to do spiritual work, oh yes, and they also know entirely about the Sound too...perhaps the reason you have never found proof is because you never invested the time into learning how to leave the body...

Etznab

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Jul 1, 2015, 11:10:23 PM7/1/15
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People suffering psychotic delusions can also claim personal experience, so you and your opinions are just you and your opinions.

Kinpa

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Jul 1, 2015, 11:21:45 PM7/1/15
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As that is yours, however, we who do frequently meet obe and report the same very specific things, take us completely OUT of that context, with definitive and widespread proofs. The fact that you get no proof of this is irrelevant, it leaves you with your empty assumptions, which prove absolutely nothing...

Kinpa

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Jul 1, 2015, 11:26:25 PM7/1/15
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Except that you follow your habit of assuming rather than so much as even TRYING to acquire ANY proof or disproof of anything...seems rather lazy to always be relying on books in lieu of actual experiences...

Etznab

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Jul 1, 2015, 11:44:34 PM7/1/15
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Your head trips are yours. Keep them.

Kinpa

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Jul 1, 2015, 11:54:28 PM7/1/15
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So you choose to think you are capable of diagnosing psychological states? I notice that neither of you are ever able to provide ANY evidence of anything. Typical for one who is rather lazy. You always fall back to the defensive posture of name-calling...unable to avoid the idea that any who disagree have mental problem, but that proves that it is you that suffers from both prejudice and delusion...good luck with that...
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Henosis Sage

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INT: Mr Avenell, could you tell us a little but about Audinometry? Where did this system come from?

BKA: Audinometry is a progressive, advanced system of sound current meditation.

A lot of the background techniques came from two Sikh gurus, Dr. Bhagat Singh Thind and Kirpal Singh, both of whom I studied Surat Shabda Yoga under.

From this my long memory opened up, and I remembered teaching spiritual systems in ancient Eqypt. We’ve revamped the system many times, because of new things which are continually being discovered. So, this system is based on my own experiences, as well as my students’ experiences.

INT: What is your relationship to your students? Are you a guru or master of some sort?

BKA: No, I’m not into devotion. We don’t tie you to a spiritual master, nor do we teach a religion or philosophy. Previously, I’ve always offered to be a student’s friend and confidant, and to help them understand what is happening to them. I’m very informal, because the thing these students are looking for is in themselves, not in me. I have tried to show them enough of my life so they can see I’m just a regular person. I guess I don’t like titles. You can call me a coach, if you like.

http://www.theeurekasociety.org/interview/

Q: There are a number of systems that teach sound current these days. What makes this different?

A: Yes, sound current in and of itself is nothing new. Several sources believe most religions have some foundation in sound current teachings. The ancient Greeks called it “Logos”, as well as “Music of the Spheres” and the Bible mentions “The Word”. Also, Henry Bergson, a French philosopher, coined the term elan vital, which means the vital essence that causes everything to be.

In 16th century India, Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism, wanted to reestablish the integrity of sound current teachings, since he thought the world religions had strayed from it. A whole lineage passed on these teachings for many generations, up until today, along with several offshoot lineages.

In the early 20th century, Dr. Bhagvad Singh Thind, a sikh guru, was one of the first to teach it here in this country. Kirpal Singh of India, who initiated a number of westerners, also taught here. (Bruce Avenell, Eureka Society founder, studied under both of them.)

Since then, there have been a number of sound current teachers here. Surat Shabd(a) Yoga is another term for a sound current system. Most of these systems are devotional in nature, and you pay homage to a guru or master. We do not teach devotion. We teach a western, more progressive system, not tied to yesterday, one that allows you to tap into your own source and not be beholding to or dependent on anyone. In addition, our system is more derivative of a system once practiced in ancient Egypt.

http://www.theeurekasociety.org/audinometry/faqs/

http://www.theeurekasociety.org/videos/

or for more 'egyptian' https://www.rosicrucian.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mystical_Order_Rosae_Crucis

2015 marks the centenary of the birth of AMORC. Having visited France in 1909 and meeting with the French Rosicrucian Order in Toulouse, Harvey Spencer Lewis was initiated and empowered to organise the re-birth of the Rosicrucian Order in the United States of America. To differentiate the organisation from other organisations calling themselves Rosicrucian, Lewis formed the Rosicrucian Order AMORC.

Today we are a dynamic worldwide organisation and our teachings are translated into 19 languages and there are approximately 450 Rosicrucian Groups around the world. Members may join Imperator Christian Bernard and all of the Grand Masters from throughout the world for the 2015 AMORC World Convention commemorating the founding of AMORC in America 100 years ago!
https://amorc.org.uk/

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WSP:
The deep south of the US was and still is quite fundamentally Christian, with the Southern Baptists ruling--and they basically were and possibly still are highly prejudiced against blacks. In the deep south, from which Paul Twitchell came, lowest-class whites were considered superior by those who were most prejudiced to the most refined and elegant blacks. There were deep class divisions among southern whites, from the lowest level called "crackers" of "poor white trash" to the southern belles and colonels of lore--and I have no way of knowing, but sensed intuitively, that Paul Twitchell did not come from the upper crust class. He impressed me as being more from a family of share croppers than former plantation owners.

I also sensed he had a genuine spiritual awakening/initiation at a young age, the same kind of phenomenon that caused countless people like you and me to seek movements like Eckankar and the Rosicrucian’s. .. and that gave people like the Amish or Mormons a holier-than-thou glow of spiritual beauty that made them look younger than their years. It is called an aura or halo of sanctity.

It is the same sort of inner radiance an elderly person suffering the final stages of dementia expresses--a line-free glowing face that has a saintly look... like translucence... although the mind behind it is blank. Spirit is ubiquitous and, therefore, ageless and people with that look appear ageless. Paul was probably about fifty, or maybe a bit older, but he had that sort of glowing look about him. [He was 59yrs] I know he said he had sold shoes.

I think, but cannot swear, that he also sold bibles, but that might just be an
impression I got because he came from the Bible-thumping deep south ... a culture that gave me shudders on my spinal column. He was trying to sell experience that he called "the ancient science of soul travel."

It was the same subject a West Virginia businessman named Robert Monroe had written about in his personal memoir about his journeys out of the body. They were matter-of-fact documentations that tried to sell nothing to anyone--until a few years later. I was highly disappointed to learn that Monroe had organized an institute and was charging people to join.

The same with Edgar Mitchell, the astronaut, who came back to earth and shared some numinous experiences from space, and then founded a non-profit known as the Noetics Institute. All major religions started that way. One person had an experience that was of a sublime nature, talked about it, developed a following and soon a religious movement was founded. It happened with Jesus. It happened with Mohammed, and Islam followed. Joseph Smith saw an angel, as did Paul, and The Church of the Latter Day Saints ensued, as did Eckankar.

EVERY FOLLOWER IN THOSE RELIGIONS IS A NON-EXPERIENT... BASING HIS OR HER LIFE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S EXPERIENCE. JESUS, IF WHAT IS REPORTED IS TRUE, DID NOT START A CHURCH. HE SAID, 'THAT WHICH I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, YOU TOO CAN ATTAIN." HE WAS IMMORTALIZED BY FOLLOWERS AFTER HIS DEATH AND THE PEOPLE WERE SOLD CHRISTIANITY.

When Paul (and Darwin Gross) organized an institution and then gave themselves fancy titles and positions, they stepped into an arena someone described as: If you want to destroy truth, organize it as a religion.

At first it must have been fun, exciting, challenging and evolutionary, and a good thing that appeared successful--like building a fictional land as in The Hobbits--and if Paul was from a lowest-class southern socioeconomic level, he finally made it up the social scale by succeeding in climbing the socio-economic ladder. That is only an assumption, for I never pursued the subject.

Was he nouveau riche? Possibly, if it is true he had 300,000 members in Eck. [as per the article] AMORC claimed to have 250,000 members, only a small percentage being of the higher degrees. Much of the bursting forth in those days of unheard of movements of an esoteric nature happened in the late 50s and early 60s, and were obviously spawned by breakaway Rosicrucians.

An example: Earlyne and Robert Cheney, who founded The Astara Foundation in So. California. The Brotherhood of the Adytum (BOTA) was another. It was Rosicrucian in most ways except it used the Tarot as symbols, which AMORC did not. Yet another called itself the Mayana. As with all these modern movements, the best way to sell people on joining was to add the elements of mystery: the groups were ancient, secret and held knowledge only insiders could obtain... to gain power over fate!

The Rosicrucian Fellowship in Encinitas, which was already well-established, taught esoteric astrology (ala AA Bailey?), which AMORC did not.

Attainment of Cosmic Consciousness was the goal of the neophyte who crossed the RC threshold when I did in 1963 and its mode of achievement was through attunement and partnership with the Master Within (one's soul)
and it worked wonders for me... but we also studied through various degrees, including the fifth--the degree of philosophy--the sixth, the degree of healing, and the seventh, the degree of projection (which Paul called Soul Travel).

Today, a school of healing known as Reiki utilizes principles and practices that were, indeed, secret back in 1915 when H. Spencer Lewis first introduced Rosicrucianism in N.Y. From then until his death in 1939, he was called a fraud and all sorts of battles went on in which people tried to horn in on his success or gain power. Aleister Crowley was one of them. HSL was accused of being a fraud, and as Imperator, he claimed to be the only person to whom the position had been entrusted. Did he make up the term? I don't know. Early publicity claimed Sir Francis Bacon was imperator in the 16th century. Good publicity sales pitch!

The term Eck Master is probably true, if Paul worked out a system of projection through the center of one's forehead that works, but was the he living master in a long line of now-dead ones? Or was he the first ECK master in a movement he founded in the 20th century? I suspect the latter is true, even if what he teaches is accurate and will work--but for what purpose is it important to be free to travel out of the body? We will all do so soon enough when we go through transition.

In Rosicrucian publicity, the sales pitch was that AMORC is "Traditionally the world's oldest fraternity" with roots going back to ancient Egypt. The mission statement was, when I joined: To enable all to live in harmony with the creative forces of the universe. Although we swore to keep secret the exact laws and principles as shared with us, there was no law that said we could not revise them and teach them our way in the profane world, meaning mundane, world around us. We simply could not steal by plagiarism the exact presentations given to us.

I have had the opportunity to read other branches of Rosicrucianism's rituals, including the Golden Dawn, and their rituals are almost the same as the ones in AMORC. And the OTO, with Aleister Crowly, had similar rituals except they were far more explicitly sexual. AMORC was the mild, conservative branch--which is a good thing for me! I left AMORC after the split, and went with Imperator Gary L. Stewart into the Confraternity of the Rose Cross. He has spent all these years repairing the damage done to the monographs of Dr. H. Spencer Lewis by restoring the teachings to their original state as HSL taught them and he has also set us straight on the actual history of AMORC Rosicrucianism. It does NOT stretch all the way back to Pharaoh Akhnaton's time, in an unbroken line of succession. It started in the 17th century in Germany and its constitution is the Fama Fraternitatis.

I figured out for myself that HSL set AMORC up as a huge real estate deal that benefitted his family, for the Imperatorship could only pass down to his heirs. And the Imperator was spiritual head as well as president and the order was NOT democratic. That is, members did not have a vote in operations. HSL served for 24 years, dying in 1939. His son Ralph served exactly twice as long, 48 years, and died without an heir, so he named Gary L. Stewart.

Ralph and I became close friends. He was a man of tremendous integrity who never profited from his position. Upon succeeding Ralph, young Gary attempted to clean up the operations of the order, establish a bona fide degree-granting university--and make insurance available to members, and that is when all hell broke loose by those who were manipulating the money... Gary was accused of embezzlement, which was later disproven, a Frenchman stole it, had the old articles of incorporation nullified and new articles drawn up.

So the AMORC to which I belonged no longer exists. I live one hour from the headquarters, but never go visit. I no longer feel a connection. Gary went sideways, without the burden of property, money and membership, and a few of us went with him. We are the Confraternity of the Rose Cross. It is only natural that ECK should undergo similar growing pains. After all, the term Mahanta sounds suspiciously like Mahatma.

And, when thinking about the validity of the organization, ask yourself which is more important: proving the organization is a fraud, or having your own genuine experiences? To have the latter, just sit in meditation and follow the silent voice to the center of your own being, for truth lies within.*

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Eckankar: The Bilocation Philosophy
By PAUL TWITCHELL

Eckankar, the philosophy of out of the body experience, is that understanding which I have gained from bilocation excursions similar to those in the lives of the saints of all faiths.

I began my study of bilocation under the tutelage of Satguru Sudar Singh [aka Bhagat Singh Thind USA], in Allahbad, India. Later I switched to Sri Kirpal Singh, of old Delhi. Both were teaching the Shabda Yoga, that which is called the Yoga of Sound Current. I had to learn to leave my body at will and return, without effort.

Most of my philosophy is expounded in my works, “The Flute of God,” a volume I wrote in 1959, and the “Tiger’s Fang,” in 1957, an expose of travel through the planes of other worlds to the ultimate of God. [No RT!] Another book, “The Narrow Path,” was an autobiographical novel of my experiences in India. Also among my writings are numerous discourses from many masters, in the flesh and those on the inner planes. I have talked with and taken down the words of Kirpal Singh who appeared in my apartment in his Nari Raup [sic], his light-body, although his physical body was six thousand miles away in India.

Eckankar is the study of the bilocation experience. Man needs to learn to leave his body at will and dwell in his spirit body, on other planes. He must someday leave this fleshy temple, so he should learn that by going in and out of his body that he can give it up to death without suffering.

The self or soul has three places it can dwell. It can be inside the skull, three feet behind the head, or stuck in the body. Often it can be miles away and still directing the body. If it is anywhere in the body or encased in the skull it is trapped and can’t leave whether the individual’s consciousness desires it or not. [aka Scientology semantics]

This self is the individual consciousness, that part of man which is the true awareness or the attention. If the individual’s attention is inside the body, or outdrawn somewhere, then he can’t withdraw from the physical body successfully.

[from January 1964]

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DOES SCIENTOLOGY BELIEVE ONE CAN EXIST OUTSIDE OF THE BODY?

Before entering Scientology many people experience the feeling of looking down on one’s body, but they do not understand what is happening. Once they have achieved greater spiritual awareness through Scientology auditing and training they find that this experience becomes nothing out of the ordinary.

In Scientology, this phenomenon is called exteriorization—the detachment of one’s spirit from the body while yet fully conscious and aware. Scientology believes that Man is not his body, his mind or his brain. He, a spiritual force, energizes the physical body. Indeed, through the discovery of exteriorization, Scientology proved, for the first time, that Man is a spiritual being.
http://www.scientologynews.org/faq/does-scientology-believe-one-can-exist-outside-of-the-body.html

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?16634-EXTERIORIZATION-REAL-OR-DELUSION



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Q: What led you to, and when did you start on a traditional path in your search of Truth and Light?

I was probably about twelve years old when I developed an interest in mystical subjects although I do recall having some interesting experiences and impressions at a much earlier age. However, it wasn't until I was eighteen before I actually got involved with any organized group -- and that was with an esoteric Lodge in Belgium. I suppose I would credit that date -- June, 1971 -- with the actual starting on a Traditional Path. It wasn't until 1975 that I became involved in Rosicrucianism through my affiliation with AMORC (Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis).

Q: How did you become an Imperator of the Rosicrucian Movement?

In my opinion it is a misnomer to say I became an Imperator of "the" Rosicrucian Movement. It is better to say that I am an Imperator of "a" Rosicrucian Movement. The word "Rosicrucian" is pretty generic in its usage and there are a lot of different groups, people, and lineages that can correctly use the word to describe their function and/or identity as to the Work they do. In my opinion, anyone who attempts to lay claim as being the authentic or genuine Rosicrucian Order to the exclusion of anyone or everyone else is sadly lacking in the area of historical acumen.

With that said, I became the Imperator of a Rosicrucian Movement that perpetuated a lineage passed from Dr. H. Spencer Lewis, to his son, Ralph M. Lewis, to myself which was manifesting in an Organization called AMORC. AMORC was created by H. Spencer Lewis in 1915 after several years of preparation. According to the traditional dictates of that lineage (and most other Rosicrucian Lineages that I am aware of), I became Imperator through personal selection by my predecessor, Ralph Lewis, to become his successor after his death -- which occurred in January, 1987.

Q: You have founded the Confraternity of the Rose Cross. Could you tell us about the history and the objectives of the CR+C?

I founded the CR+C (Confraternity of the Rose Cross) in 1996 for the purpose of perpetuating both the Rosicrucian Traditions, as well as the Lineage of Imperator, as they were passed to me.

As many are aware, AMORCian Rosicrucianism has undergone a bit of turmoil starting in 1990. At that time, they embarked upon their own path which deviates tremendously from the initial Path and Lineage that I was entrusted to work. The CR+C was formed to preserve that particular lineage and to make available, in their pure form, the initial R+C teachings as they were originally presented.
http://www.crcsite.org/interview.htm


Rosicrucian Links
Confusion on the Internet
There exist a confusing number of modern Rosicrucian organizations with a presence on the internet today. Which of them are legitimate and by what criteria can one define a legitimate Rosicrucian order or society? First of all, no one single Rosicrucian group can legitimately lay claim to being "the Rosicrucian order" in any sort of exclusive sense.
http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=223-rosicrucian-links


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And that last paragraph is different exactly how?? From following someone else's experiences or beliefs? You have failed once again, and served only to prove that you DO indeed live your live according to a double standard...typical, AND boring...

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Dr Eugene E Bernard professor of psychology at North Carolina State University and Dr Charles Tart psychologist and
lecturer at the University of California are conducting laboratory experiments to prove that some people have the ability
to leave their bodies and float off to the ceiling another room or some times thousands of miles away.

Former University of Florida staff member, Dr Hornel Hart says that "a world exists that is invisible to our physical
senses and yet is a realm of objective experience and of social contacts between conscious personalities."

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Futhermore, a growing number of scientific researchers are becoming convinced that the phenomenon of leaving one's
body to float off in spirit to the ceiling, to another room, or in some cases, to another city or country is a genuine
psychical experience.
Dr. Charles Tart, psychologist, has observed that accounts of out-of-body travel can be found throughout history. Tart
reports: "You can go into Egyptian tbinbs and see diagrams on the walls of how it's supposed to be done. Greek mystic
religions apparently had techniques to induce this experience that were the' crux of initiation ceremonies. Out-of-body
travel seems to be an altered state of consciousness, but we of Western Culture have rejected these states. Yet in all
other cultures, almost all Asia, the altered states of consciousness are acknowledged and used."
Dr. Eugene E. Bernard has also studied the phenomenon of out-of-body travel. Dr. Bernard has stated that in opinion it
is impossible that so many people who are apparently psychologically healthy might be having hallucinations of
traveling in spirit form outside of their physical bodies.
"There is still much we don't know about the mind and its (workings)," Dr. Bernard has remarked. "I don't know how
long it will take, but I believe that out-of-body experience can be proved and controlled."
The great psychical researcher Frederic W. H. Meyers believed out-of-body experiences to be manifestations of that
which was deepest and most unitary in man's whole being. Of all vital phenomena, Dr. Meyers considered out-of-body
travel the most significant, "The one definite act which it seems as though a man might perform equally well before or
after bodily death."
Spontaneous out-of-body travel is most apt to occur In crisis situations, or moments of deep emotion, when the normal
channels of communication are blocked or removed from either the agent or the recipient of the manifestation. Thus
many people, victims of accidents and in need of help, are often able to direct a loved one to the scene of the mishap,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPTUJJSjZPNks2UjQ/view?usp=sharing


[ that very thing happened with the Crocodile Hunter, Steve Irwin , when his mother was killed in a car accident hundreds of miles away ... he drove straight to where she was without being told anything. He was an unusual chap. ]

But putting a TM Logo on it and claiming personal kudos for it is another matter entirely.

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Kirpal Singh appears to "believe" Twitchell's claims in the letters he sent to Singh.

However, given the clear evidence now that DWTM and TTF books are heavily plagiarized, like all the other
writings of Twitchell, the idea that Kirpal Singh or Rebazar Tarzs were appearing to him and DICTATING what to
write cannot be true..... another literary device by Twitchell.

If that is not true, then the claims BY Kirpal Singh "appearing" to Twitchell in the material physical form or the

Radiant Body is HIGHLY DUBIOUS AS WELL, and not credible. Though KS may have believed it himself. Now
this does not mean it's not possible for such experiences to occur, only that KS & RT never dictated anything to
Twitchell in the way he descibed it to both Kirpal Singh in his personal letters and later in his books.

In this regard, Kirpal Singh comments:
Paul Twitchell used to write to me every week, "Master came and sat down on the
chair and dictated his teachings to me." He published them in the Tiger's Fang.
Kirpal Singh, Heart to Heart Talks, Volume II (Delhi: Ruhani Satsang, 1975),
page 205.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPYWNTT0Z2akpzVTQ/view?usp=sharing


Here is a 1970 meeting and interview with Paul Twitchell in San Diego
published as part of a book on American Gurus of the late 60s

John Godwin, an Australian journalist, travelled to the US during
1970 to inteview several new movement leaders of the day. This
is a chapter from his 1972 book "Occult America"

TEXT EXTRACTS
The Oakland Tribune CA. Thurs., Aug. 10, 1972
An Occult Leader Named Twitchell By JOHN GODWIN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPRzRVcjh2d3lIOXc/view?usp=sharing

eg

According to a typewritten article sent to me by the secretary of his organization
there is a "raging controversy going on as to whether or not Twitchell has replaced the
eminent figures of religion, Buddha, Christ, Moses, St. Paul of Christian fame and
Mohammed."

The article, written by one James Walker, also has it:
- That casts no shadow when he walks in the sun and many times no footprints.
- That the gigantic meteor which exploded in Siberia in 1908 was in reality not meteor but
xxx xxxxxxx xxxper. (?)
- That his powers caused the electricity failure in New York and parts of the East Coast in
1964.
--That a few years ago,


The first thing discovered was the astonishing dichotomy of Twitchell's public image.
Unlike, say Jeanne Dixon, L Ron Hubbard or Edgar Cayce, he is an almost total cipher in
non-occult circles and gets little coverage in the general press, radio and television.

None of my numerous contacts in the communications field had even heard of him.

But within the metaphysical realm he looms large indeed. With an estimated 3,000,000
[ 3 million, not! ] followers worldwide, 15 centers in the United States and four overseas, and a weekly
mailbag of some 10,000 letters, he ranks among America's most successful cult leaders.

The creed's official name is ECK Inc., derived from the word Eckankar: accent on the first
syllable. As he explained to both Webster's Dictionary and me, the word comes from the
Tibetan Pali language and means "all-inclusiveness with God." It is as he further pointed
out, neither a religion nor a philosophy, but the direct path to God as revealed to Paul
Twitchell.

[...]

Twitchell calls Eckankar the oldest religion in the world. It was, in his words, "imported
here from Venus by an unknown race who are living in Agam Des, and whom we know as the Eshwar Khanewale, or
simply as the God-Eaters."

[...]

Twitchell himself lives in San Diego, about 120 miles down the coast. The movement's
headquarters is in Las Vegas only because of Nevada's low company taxes.

Twitchell is small and bony, with graying hair, thin lips, and bright blue eyes set
deeply in their sockets. For a man purportedly born just after the American Revolution
he is remarkably well preserved. He doesn't, in fact, look a day over 55.

[note: Versus Twitchell's ongoing propaganda that he looked in his late 30s at this time.... when he was in fact 61 yrs old ... born in 1909 ]

He speaks slowly and with a strong Southern drawl, pronouncing most of his "yous" as "yers."
He has an unusual habit of keeping his hands flat on the table before him as he talks
moving them as if spreading the pieces of an invisible Jigsaw puzzle.
I had some difficulty piinning down his background. He stated that he was born (his
disciples say reincarnated) on a Mississippi river boat but he refused to give a date. Later
he wrote me a letter claiming the his real name was Peddar Zaskq, that he never knew his
actual parents and that Twitchell was merely the name of the family that fostered him.
On other points he was more forthcoming.

It seems that, he learned basic out-of-body movement from an older half-sister before
he could actually walk. Rebazar Tarzs, his Tibetan lama guide, FIRST APPEARED to him aboard
a U.S. Navy vessel in the Pacific in 1944 at a moment of extreme nervous tension while,
the ship was being tracked by a Japanese submarine.

After the war Twitchell put in a stint as a free-lance writer for pulp magazines, "doing
about five hundred dollars a month out of it. That was pretty good, but I tell you I was
really knocking myself crazy."

Following a brief visit, to India [note: supposedly in 1951], however, Rebazar Tarzs
began to appear to him regularly, dictating a series of books which today form the
LITERARY BASIS OF ECKANKAR.

[...]
At the conclusion of our talk Paul Twitchell escorted me out into the white California
sunshine. He cast a clearly discernible shadow. I can't vouch for footprints..
[end of article]

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ALL ABOUT ECK - 1968
Is the New Age Messiah in Our Midst?

"Certain factors and events which are coming about somewhat prove that
we are blessed with his presence."

"The ancient one, the agent of God, whom we call the Messias (sic),
or the Godman, appears in the world with every new age. Now he has
appeared with the age-old teachings, ECK, which will give the
human race a spiritual boost, taking many over the crises into the
realm of God."

"He is an Occidental who shall not sit in the lotus position, but
will occupy a straight chair and put his feet on the floor. Many
have claimed they were the Messias (sic), but the proof is not in
evidence. The deliverance of the universal world message must be
an age-old teaching."

online ref:
http://selfdefinition.org/radha-soami/Paul%20Twitchell%20-%20All%20About%20ECK.pdf
last chapter.

This report, which appeared in the periodical Candid Press, was followed by a direct
statement from Twitchell offering some additional details:

"I have been blessed with the ability to see all -- know all -- help all.
I must use this ability and power to help as many people as I can."




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Henosis Sage

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> Eckankar is known as the "ancient science of soul travel" and the "religion of the light and
>
> sound of god". According to the literature, Eckankar is the highest most direct path to 'God'.

1939 'The Messengers of the Word' by Sawan Singh

Delivered in Satsang by HAZUR MAHARAJ BABA SAWAN SINGH JI
Radha Soami Satsang Beas, India
First published in 1939 and then 1970 in English

[Includes a few selected edits to account for recent history]

The Messengers of the Word

The Soul, or Spirit, is a drop from the Supreme Being, an Ocean of Love and of Mercy. In order that
Soul may rise up and, with the help of a living Master, return to its original Home, it is not
necessary for us to renounce the world, nor give up our hearth and home, our family and friends,
our business or vocation. These masters give us a very easy way to God realization. It can be
understood as easily by children as by adults.

The message of the Saints and of all True Masters has always been the same, and is for all of
mankind through all time. It is not just another system of yoga, nor is it a religion, in the historical
sense of that term. It is identical with the basic and original spiritual teachings of all world religions,
but it goes far beyond them. Soul Travel is a scientific and spiritual step of uniting the individual
with Its Creator; of entering and realizing the Kingdom of Heaven while still living here in the
human body, instead of waiting to do so after death.

The Masters enable their students to do this by making them aware of their inner connection with
the Holy Spirit, the Power of the Word of God, the Logos of the Christian Bible. Furthermore, one
or more of these mysterious Masters empowered to do this work of true redemption, known as Jivan
Mukti, have always been present in this world to meet the needs of the sincere spiritual seekers of
every age. Nor has their method of liberating souls, or offering them Salvation, changed since the
beginning of time.

It has always been the same in the past; it will always remain so in the future. For it is not manmade,
as are the dogmas of the churches, but is the Supreme Being's own permanent and everlasting
method of freeing suffering humanity from the lower worlds and enabling Souls to return to their
True Home in the highest abode of God ITSELF. For these reasons, such outer teachings and
instructions, by whatever name, place, or time, have at times been called "God's Own Religion."

All of the world's orthodox religions, on the other hand, have had their origin in time. Each of them
usually runs its course and then becomes obsolete. Five hundred years ago, for example, there were
no Sikhs. Fifteen centuries ago there was not a single Muslim. Two thousand years ago at the time
of Christ there were no Christians of any denomination, and before the time of Lord Buddha around
500BC there were no Buddhists either.

Before 1861 there were no Satsangis of Radhasoami; and before 1950 there were none who
followed Ruhani Satsang. Before 1968 there wasn't a single ECKist on earth; and before 1985 not
one ATOMist either. No one followed Michael Owens before 1990; and before 1988 there wasn't a
Soul who referred to themselves as a Akatha Member, nor anyone known was a Sraosha master or a
Dhunami master.

Each of these religions may well be an aid to those of historical times or even now in achieving God
realization. But the mind of man has done strange things with the teachings of their founders and
continues to do so.

All Muslims, for example, swear by the Quran; yet they have split up into seventy-two creeds. The
Adi Granth Sahib, the holy book of the Sikhs, is one; yet its followers belong to about fifty diverse
groups. Who knows how many more subdivisions there are going to be? Similarly, the Hindus have
countless kinds of worship; and the Christians have organized more than twenty major sub-groups,
all tracing their origin to Jesus Christ and the Bible texts.

Today there are more than seven spinoffs from the Eckankar teachings of Paul Twitchell and yet all
consider his bible, the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, as the most holy.
Yet still God, the Formless, the Alone, the Absolute, whatever name given is One. And thus the way
that leads to IT is also One. ITS Kingdom, which is the true Kingdom of Heaven spoken of by
Jesus, who likewise taught the Light and Sound of the Word lies within all human beings, and all
are equally competent to search for IT, regardless of their caste, religion, social norms, philosophy,
wealth, economic system, politics, creeds, basic beliefs, sexual orientation, or the colour of their
skin.

"No caste or creed the Lord requires,
'Tis love alone that He desires;
Devotion deep and love sincere,
These do the soul to Him endear."
(Sant Kabir)

The exhortation of all spiritual travelers who have come down to earth from their home on the
Soul Plane, the region of Sat Nam above the material universes, is the same: withdraw your spirit
current or soul from the nine doors of the body to the Tisra Til or the Tenth Door and attach thyself
to the Word of God or the Logos, described in the Bible in the opening sentences of the Gospel of
St. John.

This Word is not, as is usually believed, a written word but a stream, a living current, a wave from
ITS original source.

Actually, it is a power that emanates continuously from the Supreme Being, also known by
thousands of other terms. It is that power that created and still now sustains the vast universe of
universes. The perfect Sants and Masters teach their students how to contact this life giving power
directly, which is everywhere present, is ringing within every human being, and is heard by initiates
as the most enchanting and enrapturing harmony or melody.

This music of the Spirit current is not only beautiful, it is also purifying and uplifting. It purifies the
human mind of disturbances, neuroses, and falsehoods. Then it draws Soul upward with an
irresistible Power--the Power of Love of the Supreme Being ITSELF.

"This sound createth the whole universe, and
to all lights giveth it birth."
(Shams-i-Tabriz)

"In Him was Life, and the Life was the Light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it not....That was the true Light
which lighteth every man that cometh into the Word."
(Jesus Christ)

The nine doors of the body, as already mentioned, are the two eyes, two ears, two nostrils, the
mouth, and the two lower apertures, whilst the Tenth Door is in the forehead, between the
eyebrows.
Saints teach their followers how to concentrate at this spot and to hear there the enchanting music of
the Word of God. This Word has been called the "unstruck melody" by some of the great Masters.

These harmonies resound endlessly within the mansion of every human body.
This Word of God, the Sound Current, which is actually the Supreme Being in dynamic action, and
which is the only method of directly contacting each individual soul, existed when the world began,
and it will continue so long as the world endures. It is without question the most basic and
important fact of the entire universe, and was taught by the founders of practically all the major
world religions.

Yet today, almost every religion is totally ignorant of its existence, of what IT really is, and how
to access this greatest of all power and love that leads to the freedom of Soul. It is, however, the
basis of the spiritual science of the Ancient Wisdom that has always been taught by the true Saints
and the perfect Masters.

Indulgence in the pleasures of the senses, submission to the dictates of the pleasure-loving mind,
and the accumulated karmas from past lives now hamper the individual and do not permit him to
make direct contact with the Word, nor listen with spiritual ears to its sublime harmony.

The masters wish to take all souls who are ready out of the labyrinth of this coarse material plane,
but the masses are always searching for happiness in the gratification of the debasing appetites of
the senses and the five passions of the mind. Little do they dream of the bliss and beauty of the
higher worlds, to which man can rise in this very life.

When these spiritual travelers reveal this fact, most people look upon them with suspicion. They do
not trust them for the orthodox religions have long since forgotten about the existence of the Divine
Music of the Word, and the masses of mankind still tend to believe that there is only one life:

"Sweet is this life alone;
The next, to none is known."
"O Babar: Eat, drink and merry be
Another life thou shalt not see."

Worldly riches and earthly power attract many people to such an extent that they are dominated by
material attachments and cannot hear the Divine Music within.

"The favoured of Mammon, of soul so dull,
Such ones can never be attuned
To the Heavenly Harmony."
(Guru Nanak)

The human mind is very strange. Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth Sikh Guru, who died in the early
18th century, invoked God by using nearly fourteen hundred different names. These were all
original, and had never been used by any other teacher before his time. Yet when the great Indian
Sant, Swami Ji, a century and a half later, used the words "Radha Swami" (Lord of the Soul) as a
name for God; it created a furor, because of the attachment that people had developed for the older
names. However, no name can really describe the Supreme Being.

Millions of sacrificial rites, penances, worship services, acts of charity and other deeds that are
regarded in the East and West as meritorious can bring no salvation to man. For salvation is gained
only by devotion to the Word. Good and pious acts may result in one's coming back to the world in
his next birth as a wealthy man, a prince, or a king; but after enjoying the fruit of his good actions,
he would be sent back once again to reincarnate in the prison house of the Wheel of Eighty-Four.

For the process by which the soul rises up to the higher worlds during inner contemplation or that
known as spiritual meditation is precisely the same as that by which the soul leaves the body at the
time of death.

"See thou without thy eyes,
And walk without thy feet,
And work, and speak, and hear,
But use no hand, nor tongue, nor ear;
Even while living, die; and have no fear.
Thus Word of God shalt thou hear,
And thy Beloved meet."
(Guru Angad)

"If any one telleth thee that talk is impossible without words
and sound, stop him thou from saying so; for it is false."
(Shamas-i-Tabriz)

"Without wings and without feet do I travel there and without
the lips and teeth do I eat sweets. With eyes closed do I
behold the world; and gather flowers when my eyes thou
dost pluck."
(Maulana Rum)

"The Essence and Secret of God is the soul;
Without the tongue and the palate doth it talk."
(Niaz Sahib)

"O man, so long as thou dost not come out of thy body,
how canst thou ever attain Higher realms?"
(Khwaja Hafiz)

It is a curious fact of history that the great Saints who come to this low earth to redeem and
liberate us, are often treated very roughly by the worldly people here. My saint, my god, is always
better than your saint and your god, they cry.

Accumulation of the wealth of the Word alone can free one from the prison of this material world.

Nothing matters more. Everything else is mind candy, so sweet and yet so sticky. Swallow too much
of this and a spiritual sickness is as certain to follow as night follows day.
God is nameless. IT is the Divine Being, the Creator and Sustainer of us all; yet you cannot see Him
until you are liberated from the prison house of the body. However, when once IT is realized, all
duality and conflict within cease and disappear. All religious doctrines and dogma dissolve into
nothingness. Then you may call God by any name you please.

--- --- ---

Feel free to compare the above with the original text from Page 65 onward [ie page 96 of
the online PDF ebook itself] of Sawan Singh's book: DISCOURSES ON SANT MAT
https://www.scribd.com/doc/69097543/DISCOURSES-ON-SANT-MAT-by-Sawan-Singh


DISCOURSES ON SANT MAT (as delivered in Satsang)
by HAZUR MAHARAJ BABA SAWAN SINGH JI 1858-1948
Copyright 1939 - Published in English 1970 - 3rd Edition 1975
RADHA SOAMI SATSANG BEAS, PUNJAB - INDIA

Used under Fair Use, for educational and historical purposes, for people who
have inquired about and asked for this information!

Henosis Sage

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1915 Cosmic Consciousness: The Man-God Whom We Await

by Ali Nomad

"Spiritual consciousness is all that is good and pure and noble, and satisfying in the

mortal and infinitely more. It is the love of personal self plus the _Self_ - the atman."

CHAPTER XV Extracts pp. 107-111

_Meditate upon this sutra._

"For him who discerns between the mind and the spiritual man (the Self)

there comes perfect fruition of the longing after the real being."

When the disciple has once grasped the fact that he is a soul, and possesses a mind and a physical

covering, he has entered on the way of Illumination, and must inevitably reach the goal; then shall

he find "perfect fruition of the longing" after the perfect Self, and its completement in union with

the love that he craves.

"Have you, in lonely darkness longed for companionship and consolation? You shall have

angels and archangels for your friends and all the immortal hosts of the Dawn."

Such are the Yoga sutras, or aphorisms, as enunciated by Patanjali. If the aspiring one were to give

up a whole lifetime to their practice, gaining at last the consciousness of immortal life and love,

what a small price to pay.

Raja Yoga with its methods and exercises, is the path of knowledge, through application;

concentration; meditation. The practice of Raja Yoga will lead the student to the path of Gnani

Yoga; and to the realization that Bhakti Yoga, the way of love and service will be included, not as

an arduous task; not as a study, or as a means to an end, but because of the love of it.

Gnani Yoga comes as complementary to practice of the sutras because knowledge applied for the

purpose of spiritual attainment brings wisdom. Gnani Yoga, then, is the path of wisdom. The

follower of Gnani Yoga seeks the occult or hidden wisdom, and always has before him the idea of

whether this or that be of the Self, the atman, or of the self, the personal, gradually eliminating from

his desires all that does not answer the test of its reality in spiritual consciousness; he welcomes

experiences of all kinds, as so many lessons from which he extracts the fine grain of truth, and

throws aside the husks; he accepts nothing blindly or in faith, but "proves all things holding fast to

that which is good"; not that he lacks faith, but because the very nature of his inquiry is to discover

the interior nature and its relation to God.

There are many in the world of to-day who feel the urge toward the path of Gnani Yoga, because of

the conviction that is forcing itself upon every truly enlightened mind, that civilization with all its

wonderful achievements, does not promise happiness, or solve the question of the soul's urge. In

short, the educated, and the well conditioned, if he be a thinker, and not submerged in maya, lost in

the personal self, inevitably finds himself searching for the real in all this labyrinth of mind

creations and sea of emotions, and then as a rule, he seeks the path of Gnani Yoga, because his

intellect must be satisfied, even though his heart calls. The mystic, the teacher, and the philosopher

are following the path of Gnani; so is the true occultist, but many who deal in so-called occultism

are employing knowledge only, entirely missing the higher quality--wisdom.

Bhakti Yoga, the path of self-surrender; the thorny way through the emotions; the "blood of the

heart," is the short cut to Illumination, if such a thing could be. But there is no "short cut"; nor yet a

long road.

Some one has said there are as many ways to God as there are souls. And yet, all persons who are

on the upward climb, are demonstrating some one of these four paths, or a combination of the paths.

It is, however, a significant fact that we do not hear anything of the great intellectual attainments of

the three great masters--Krishna, Buddha and Jesus, but only of their great compassion; their

wonderful love for mankind, and all living things.

St. Paul, who was probably an educated man, as he held a position of prominence among those in

authority, previous to his conversion, laid particular stress upon the love-nature as the way of

illumination.

And Jesus repeatedly said "Love is the fulfilling of the law." What is the law? The law of evolution

and involution; of generation and regeneration; when the time should come, that Love was to reign

on the planet earth as it does in the heavens above the earth, then should the kingdom of which he

foretold "be at hand," and in conclusion of this _to-be_, Jesus promised that the law would be

fulfilled when Love should come.

So Swami Vivekananda in his exposition of Vedanta declares:

"Love is higher than work, than yoga; than knowledge. Day and night think of God in the

midst of all your activities. The daily necessary thoughts can all be thought through God.

Eat to Him, drink to Him, sleep to Him, see Him in all. Let us open ourselves to the one

Divine Actor, and let Him act and do nothing ourselves. Complete self-surrender is the only

way. Put out self, lose it; forget it."

Let us substitute for the words "God," and "Him," the one word Love, and see what it is that we are

told to do.

Love of doing good frees us from work, even though we labor from early dawn until the night falls;

so, too, if we have some loved one for whom we strive, we can endure every hardship with

equanimity, as far as our own comfort is concerned. Few human beings in the world to-day are so

enmeshed in the personal self as to work merely for the gratification of selfish instincts. The hard-
working man, whether laborer or banker, must have some one else for whom he struggles and

strives; otherwise, he descends to a level below that of the brute.

This is the reason for the family; the lodge; the community; the nation; there must be some motive

other than the preservation of the personal self, in order to develop the higher quality of love which

embraces the world, until the spirit of a Christ takes possession of the human and he would gladly

offer himself a sacrifice to the world, if by so doing he could eliminate all the pain from the world.

How natural it is to feel, when we see a loved one suffering, that we would gladly take upon

ourselves that pain; the heart fills with love until it aches with the burden of it; this love enlarged,

expanded and impersonal in its application is the same love with which we are told to love God, and

to "do all for Him." Do all for love of all the other hearts in the Universe that feel as we feel when

their loved ones suffer--that is the way to love God--it is the only way we know. We only know

divine love through human love: human love is divine when it is unselfish and eternal--not fed upon

carnality, but anchored in spiritual complement.

The story of Abou Ben Adhem ("may his tribe increase") tells us how we may know who loves the

Lord. The angel wrote the names of those who loved the Lord most faithfully and fully, and coming

to Abou Ben Adhem asked if he should write his name, and received the reply that he could not say

whether he deeply loved the Lord, but he was quite certain that the angel could "write me as one

who loves his fellow-men." And, lo! when the list was made and the names of all who loved the

Lord recorded, Abou Ben Adhem's name headed the list.

The Vedanta philosophy teaches non-attachment and Vivekananda himself says:

"To love any one personally is bondage. Love all alike then all desires fall off."

To love only the personal self of any one binds us to the sorrow of loss and of separation and

disappointment; but to love any one spiritually is to establish a bond which can never be broken;

which insures reunion, and defies time and space.

We can not love all alike, though we can love all humanity impersonally. All desires that have their

root in the sense-conscious plane of expression, will fall off when the heart is anchored in spiritual

love; but let it be understood that spiritual love is not opposed to human love; we do not grow into

spiritual love by denying the human, but by plussing the human.

Spiritual consciousness is all that is good and pure and noble, and satisfying in the mortal and

infinitely more. It is the love of personal self plus the _Self_--the atman.

Love is never unrequited. It is never wasted; never foolish. Love is its own self-justification; if it be

real love, and not vanity, or self admiration, misnamed, give it freely, and don't ask for a return;

don't ask whither it leads; only ask if it is real--if the love you feel is for the object of your love, or

if it is for yourself--for you to possess and to minister to your pleasure; ask whether it is from the

senses or from the heart.

The way of the Bhakti yoga, is the way of love and service, because service to our fellow beings, is

the inevitable complement of love. Where we truly love, we gladly serve. It has been said: "The

chela treads a hair-line." That is to say, the initiate must be prepared to meet defeat at every turn.

Not defeat of his object of attainment, but the personal defeat that so many seek in the delusion that

the world's ideal of success is the real success.

In conclusion we can only repeat what has been told and retold many times by all inspired ones, of

whatever creed and race; namely, think and act always from the inner Self, cheerfully taking the

consequences of your choice. Let not the opinions of the illusory world of the senses balk and

thwart you. Let not the "worldly-wise" swerve you from your ideal and your faith in the final goal

of your earthly pilgrimage--the attainment of spiritual consciousness _in your present personality_;

this is the meaning of immortality in the flesh Doubt not this.

Make love your ideal; your guide; your final goal; look for the inner Self of all whom you meet.

"Learn to look into the hearts of men," says the injunction in Light on the Path; dismiss from your

mind all the accumulation of traditional concepts and prejudices that are not grounded in love, and

above all falter not, nor doubt--no matter what seeming hardships you encounter in your earthly

pilgrimage; they are but the Indian-clubs of your soul's gymnasium--Experience. "Meet with

Triumph and Disaster, and treat these two impostors just the same."

(from: If You Can Dream by Rudyard Kipling)




On Thursday, 2 July 2015 07:42:40 UTC+10, Henosis Sage wrote:

Kinpa

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You still haven't proven nor disproven a single thing concerning Eckankar.....still waiting

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Ich habe Eckankar geprüft und für Schwindel befunden.
Dabei ist der Kopierschwindel nur der kleinere Teil des Schwindels.
Eine Prüfung der restlichen 50.000 Religionen erübrigt sich damit.
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