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Etznab

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Nov 3, 2011, 11:53:14 AM11/3/11
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OM - AUM - HUM - HUMA - HUMAN

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"[...] Hu is the origin of sound, but when the sound first takes
shape on the external plane, it becomes A, therefore alif or alpha is
considered to be the first expression of Hu, the original word. The
Sanskrit alphabet as well as that of most other languages begins with
the letter A, as does the name of God in several tongues. The word A
therefore expresses in English one, or first; and the sign of alif
expresses the meaning one, as well as first. The letter A is
pronounced without the help of the teeth or tongue, and in Sanskrit A
always means without. [....]"

http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/II/II_8.htm

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OM = AUM

"[...] The syllable consists of three phonemes, a Vaishvanara,[1] u
Hiranyagarbha and m Iswara, which symbolize the beginning, duration,
and dissolution of the universe and the associated gods Brahma,
Vishnu, and Shiva, respectively.[2] The name Omkara is taken as a name
of God in the Hindu revivalist Arya Samaj. [....]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om_mani_padme_hum

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... looking for quote that has HUM as the long version of HU. Anybody
remember that one?

MalcolmO

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Nov 3, 2011, 5:10:09 PM11/3/11
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On 2011/11/03 11:53 AM, Etznab wrote:
> The letter A is
> pronounced without the help of the teeth or tongue, and in Sanskrit A
> always means without.

That is a fascinating piece of info! It really is.
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Etznab

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Nov 3, 2011, 8:52:27 PM11/3/11
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On Nov 3, 5:18 pm, Santim Vah <sean.arund...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is.
>
> Nice catch Etznab, amazing what one misses no matter how many times
> they have read something and think they know it all already. ;-)
>
> Even more fascinating when it is undoubtedly penned by one of Eck
> Master (?) Sudar Singh's multiple-split-personalities, and possibly
> the earliest really living form of that creation who not only
> travelled to Kentucky and gave lectures there on the Sound and
> meditations, but by god even married a Kentuckian princess and took
> her with him ...... and to Paris France of all places!!! .... truth is
> always much stranger than the fiction.

Yes. And The Flute of God was one of the earliest publications by Paul
Twitchell - first parts given in Orion Magazine 1964? Hazrat Inayat
Khan was mentioned on 2nd page of Chapter 6 and on the third page of
Chapter 6 one finds the Sufi's quotes about HU.

Etznab

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:35:54 PM11/3/11
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"... looking for quote that has HUM as the long version of HU. Anybody
remember that one?"

Quoting excerpts from ESA post about 6 Lectures given at a Three Day
Las Vegas seminar/event around late July or early Aug. 1966(?). Begin
quote:

*PT continues Lecture Six with info on the use of OM, AUM, and HU. He
shows how chanting HU can be used to "uplift" oneself "economically"
as he has.

"This is why that the Hindus use the word OM or AUM for their
chanting. Now, in the Masons or in some of these esoteric groups they
use another word which generally is familiar to us, and that is a word
AMEN. And if you use this word properly, it will be actually a sound
because they have the A and M in it--A-MENNNNN. Now, distinguish that
from the word OM--OOO-MMMM, or AUM--AAA-UUU-MMMMM. The true
word is actually HU or H-UU-MMM, and as you get higher into the other
worlds it will be cut short to HU, or
H-UUUUUU. OR you could give it as HUUU. See the vibrations that goes
with that, so simple. Lots of times the word OM is actually HU--OOOO-
MMMMMM.

... I would go down to the seashore at times, and I would chant OM or
I would chant another word, or I'd
chant the HU, or I'd chant something that I knew that had a great
vibratory liftment [higher than HU?]. I could even be down
economically, I could be down in many things, and I would start
chanting this as I walked up and down the beach, and all of a sudden I
was lifted, just completely up, away from all of the
problems that I was facing at the time. [....]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous/message/4983

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The Flute of God - which mentions both Hazrat Inayat Khan and HU - was
reportedly written as early as 1959. In the early 1960's Paul
Twitchell was indeed by the "seashore" when up in Seattle where he
told about experiences with Rebazar Tarzs when he was writing The Key
to Eckankar. An a.r.e. search for Puget Sound will bear this out.
Example:

"The Key to ECKANKAR, a book by Paul Twitchell (the modern day founder
of Eckankar) introduces (p. 1) Rebazar Tarzs & Paul Twithcell taking a
walk in the park. The location appears to be Seattle Washington -
Rebazar Tarzs stopping to look across Puget Sound (p. 2) before
speaking to Paul Twitchell. [....]"

http://tinyurl.com/3zwltbd

So this I find all interesting about OM, AUM, HU & HUM. I find it
curious because researching meanings of sounds and words is one of my
favorite hobbies. Something I've been doing now for over 10 years.

Etznab

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Nov 3, 2011, 10:06:35 PM11/3/11
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Sending more references for the thread.

Quoting...

ONG KAR NIRANKAR

ONG KAR NIRANKAR,
NIRANKAR ONG

Ong Kar means "God, as He manifests in Creation." Nirankar means "God
without form." Together, the mantra represetns God manifested and
formless. from the BOOK: Kundalini Yoga for Youth and Joy-Yogic Bhajan
p 56

http://www.kundalini-yoga-info.com/ong.html

A’a’a

An equivalent to the mantric syllable ‘Hung’.

http://www.rays-of-the-sun.org/shared/text/g/glossary_ar_01_eng.php

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Etznab

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Nov 4, 2011, 12:25:08 AM11/4/11
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On Nov 3, 7:52 pm, Etznab <etz...@aol.com> wrote:
Btw, that quote mentioning Hazrat Inayat Khan appeared also (besides
in the Flute of God, by Paul Twitchell) in The Path of the Masters, by
Julian Johnson. See second tear drop at following link.

http://www.archive.org/stream/ThePathOfTheMasters/ThePathOfTheMasters#page/n11/mode/2up
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wernertrp

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:48:09 AM11/4/11
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On 4 Nov., 08:15, Santim Vah <sean.arund...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.archive.org/stream/ThePathOfTheMasters/ThePathOfTheMasters...
>
> No tear drops ... 4 pages showed from xxii ... couldn't see Khan's
> quote.
>
> But I did see some things .... as it appears all on those pages
> possessed a Borrowing Card at the Astral Library ... there's Brunton
> of course and Lavelle, plus others on those 4 pages.
>
> and bottom of page xxii is the Sufi Master being quoted as saying:
> "The supreme purpose of life is to make God a reality; ...."
>
> Which instantly reminded me of THIS fairly recent change on the
> Eckankar website home page
>
> "The purpose of Eckankar is to make God an everyday reality in your
> life."
>
> Now that isn't what has been printed as the purpose of Eckankar on
> membership cards for decades, however ....
>
> The more things change the more they appear to remain the same!
> <smile>

onk onk oink oink

MalcolmO

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Nov 5, 2011, 8:33:30 PM11/5/11
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> "The supreme purpose of life is to make God a reality; ...."

Fantastic! I'm using that one henceforward. ;)

MalcolmO

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Nov 7, 2011, 3:40:58 PM11/7/11
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wernertrp

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Nov 13, 2011, 9:23:54 AM11/13/11
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On 13 Nov., 04:38, JR <johnrcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I prefer Klein to Oxford and the Internet for word origins, Malcom. If
> I remember, our word, Spirit, corresponds to the breath in a human's
> chest at birth as much as in death on the battlefield.
>
> It seems universal for the A or Ah sound to represent the opposite of
> "to have" in its literal verbal usage. So if you imagine a time when
> viewing death was a more common experience by everyone than it is
> today, and you hear the sound of  'Ah' in a struggling gasp as your
> thumbs crushed your opponent's Adam's apple, it becomes apparent how
> it connotes a negation of "to have" if life dissociates from the body
> in your grasp.
>
> Less gruesome, what sound does the Heimlich maneuver make when one of
> Robin Hood's merry pranksters lifts a fat man's purse the moment he
> bites into a juicy piece of chicken breast while picnicking on the
> side of the road?
>
> Seriously,

Man make many noise(s) why is Hu so a preferred noise ?
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