Protection Failure from the MAHANTA in ECKANKAR (by Quoc Quy Hoang on 3/1/2005, Internet Search Code: QQH891955-1)
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(by Quoc Quy Hoang on 3/1/2005, Internet Search Code: QQH891955-1)
Being a 6th initiate in ECKANKAR and the Managing Director of ECKANKAR
Society of Central Australia in New South Wales of Australia for many
years until early 2004, I was very disappointed that my urgent and
extremely critical request for inner help and inner protection from the
MAHANTA was completely ignored. This protection failure completely
shattered the myth of inner guidance and protection from the MAHANTA
which is the most important feature of ECKANKAR - The Religion of the
Light and Sound of God.
I felt embarrassed for many years when many members of ECKANKAR told me
of their similar experiences of the failure of inner protection from
Harold Klemp who claimed to be the MAHANTA of ECKANKAR since 1981. When
such a failure of inner protection from the MAHANTA happened to me who
was a member of ECKANKAR since 1981 to 2004, I felt compelled to
disclose this information for the benefits of other ECKANKAR members. I
appended a letter at the end of this article that I sent to Harold
Klemp a Higher Initiate report on July 4 2004 and an internet email on
December 23 2004. I have not received any inner protection or inner
help from the MAHANTA of ECKANKAR.
The myth of inner protection from the MAHANTA for ECKANKAR members was
shattered for the following reasons:
- ECKANKAR teachings stated that after an initiate report was
written, the MAHANTA which is the ECK (Spirit) will start right away,
regardless of whether the report was mailed or not. However, I was very
disappointed after many months without any inner protection and help
for such an urgent and critical inner attack problem.
- I chanted HU regularly and listened to the HU CD but the inner
help never came. I chanted HU because it is the typical suggestion of
ECKANKAR teachings for inner help. They were futile attempts to ask for
help.
- Either the problem was beyond the ability of the MAHANTA to
help or the knowingness of the MAHANTA was very limited. This
contradicted the claimed omnipresence and omnipotence of the MAHANTA
and the ECK.
- My problem has been inner attacks day and night for the past 11
months. They are not the problem type that can be solved by outer means
via counselling or medical solutions.
I paid real money for yearly ECKAKAR membership fees to get unreal and
non-existent inner help from the MAHANTA of ECKANKAR. I would be very
disappointed if the blame is on the ECK (Spirit) for the failure of
non-existent help.
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Quoc Quy Hoang
Unit 11 of 113 King Street
Randwick, NSW 2031, Australia.
Email: quo...@yahoo.com
Phone: (612) 9398 6096
July 4, 2004
Sri Harold Klemp
ECKANKAR
P.O. Box 27300
Minneapolis, MN 55427, U.S.A.
Dear Harold,
It seems that I have been a target of attack by the Kal shortly after
my 6th initiation on 10/8/2003. I had very limited success after trying
the HU techniques and various known protection techniques. It was so
bad that I had to resign from outer H.I. responsibilities of an ECK
initiator and Managing Director of ECKANKAR Society of Central
Australia to avoid adverse effects on the outer organisation.
After my 6th initiation I became aware of swearing words on the inner
even during HU chants. Shortly before the spiritual new year of
22/10/2003, I went through a series of inner experiences while I was
awake and during sleep with body pains when the 7 main chakras along
the spinal cord and channels in the body opened as a result of inner
operations. There were inner visions, light in my third eye and inner
HU sounds. A constant large column of energy flowed into my head top
and exit through the palms and feet. The problem got worse in early
February 2004 when a bogus inner experience of being crowned as the
Mahanta during the day in the awaken state of consciousness. Various
channels for eyes, nose, ears, mouth, left and right of the head top
were opened. For the last 5 months, I have been attacked inwardly day
and night by unknown swearing entities drilling into my head and body.
They used your image to assess me for bogus Mahanta test, daily tests,
and awareness tests. They pretended to be spiritual hierarchy and
various masters of other paths. They followed me wherever I went and
made comments on my daily activities.
Those entities have accessed and interfered with my memory daily. I
hope that you will be able to give some insights and help. Following
are some of other symptoms.
Those entities drilled my head top by energy vortices and attempted to
block my spinal cord channels and to close my chakras along the spinal
cord. They stated that they don't like people with open chakras. They
told me that they want to kill me and remove me from existence because
they don't want me to be the Mahanta. They don't want me to get out
of
the house by various bogus threats. It is not a problem that can be
solved by medial doctors or psychiatrists. However, I am still mentally
sound.
I am aware of various images taken from my memory of living and dead
people whom I known in the past or seen from movies or television
programs. They pretended to be other people, ECK masters, including
your image to deceive me. The curious thing was cigarette smoking by
your image and other ECK masters' images. They put me through a
workhorse program and an automatic court system on the inner when I am
awake to assess my karma and prepare for reincarnation by selecting
parents and country. They pretended to be those people to give wrong,
conflicted information and various threats. They do various things to
stop me from normal daily living activities. They created dreams to
deceive me. They can replace the images I saw by physical eyes with
modified images. They can interfere with my physical hearing and
various electronic equipments that I used such as TV, radio, CD player
to give their own messages instead. Sometimes only my perception was
changed. Other times the electronic equipment operation was actually
changed.
They put various false and destructive thoughts into my mind but I was
aware of which thoughts are mine or from those entities. They regularly
created false stories and accusation in my mind with the purpose of
setting me up for another incarnation even I am still living in the
physical world. They created porn images and movies to download into my
mind especially when I slept or dreamed. Those entities also pretended
to exchange karma energy with me even they are not the people whose
faces are represented by the images. They pretended that I am dead but
I am still alive in the physical world.
They created negative energy to block my channels and chakras by
spitting, swearing, and false negative stories of my life. They put an
inner sign next on my head top or my heart with the message "I love
you. Harold" as the signal to invite attack from entities around me.
Various entities were located around my major chakras. They used
attacking symbols such as voice signals, cigarette smoking, head or
body movements. They can create inner images of fishing hooks to cause
pain on various body parts and close the various chakras. They can
create pain like many needles stuck into my body parts. They can
control various parts of my body by controlling my brain and mind
functions. They can also change my perception of smell without external
objects with those smells.
They stole my energy by sending my energy from my head top along the
left of my body to the left foot. They sent negative energy into my
right foot. They pretended to be ECK members and H.I's.
I suspected that those entities had managed to enter my body when
sleeping and there were so many of them. They used my energy to attack
me. They even pushed my car when I drove. They want to stop me from
accessing to energy of high vibration. They attempted to convince me
that the Mahanta is the Kal which should be accepted as the lord of
karma. They put me through a game to choose more future Mahantas. They
want me to make bogus declaration that I am no longer a member of the
order of Vairagi, and ECKANKAR. They stole my physical spiritual diary
and CD in my room by some inner means. They wanted me to die by giving
the reason that I refused to be the Mahanta and the Mahanta awareness
failed to develop.
With love in ECK,
Quoc Quy Hoang
ECK Id: 2130769
quo...@yahoo.com
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Quoc Quy Hoang
Unit 11 of 113 King Street
Randwick, NSW 2031, Australia.
Email: quo...@yahoo.com
Phone: (612) 9398 6096
December 23, 2004
Sri Harold Klemp
ECKANKAR
P.O. Box 27300
Minneapolis, MN 55427, U.S.A.
Dear Harold,
I attached my previous higher initiate report letter to you on July 4,
2004 in this same email for your convenience. I would like your urgent
response and acknowledgement by email before this problem is made
public which may have unfavourable consequence. You may wish to read
that previous letter first before reading this letter which summarised
some main urgent development since then even though I was attacked day
and night.
The most drastic threat from the group of inner entities with facial
feature of Harold Klemp is to kill and remove Quoc Quy Hoang from
existence soon and at the end of this lifetime after the demise of
physical body to avoid the competition of the Mahanta consciousness.
They claimed to be from the Mahanta consciousness.
These entities have stolen my chakras and sushumnas above my head and
claimed to damage many inner bodies, chakras including the petals of
the third eye chakra and heart chakra. The body chakras were blocked
and energy flow from higher planes was also blocked from entering the
bodies.
These entities connected various energy bags and facial masks of other
people to my bodies to put impure substance into my bodies. They caused
pain in many body parts and threatened me daily. They used the masks to
pretend that I was someone else and used my body for sexual activities
in the inner worlds although the pleasure sensation was blocked from my
awareness most of the time. They attacked my third eye regularly to
make me unconscious. They created dreams to pretend that I am someone
else. They blocked and changed my memory regularly for the same
purpose. They insisted that I should accept other entities into my
bodies as the replacement of my previous inner selves.
I understood that the problem sounds like a mental problem but I can
assure you that I am mentally sound and no mental treatment or
counselling can help.
I expect your urgent response since it is a very serious problem which
may affect the teaching of ECKANKAR on the inner guidance and
protection from the Mahanta. I definitely do not practise any form of
black magic to affect other people. Since these entities have accessed
my email many times before, I requested that you send me your email to
all of my following email addresses: quo...@email.com,
quo...@yahoo.com, quo...@hotmail.com, and quo...@dodo.com.au .
Best Regards,
Quoc Quy Hoang
ECK Id: 2130769
quo...@yahoo.com
surmaddream
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sean
I hear you. I hear your sense of frustration and sense of betrayal and the
feelings of hopelessness. It will be OK. You can get thru this and maybe
even quicker than you would realise now. Yes it is painful, but we are not
here to suffer unnecessarily my friend.
I am unsure if this post of yours was actually a request for help or not. If
you would like some humble suggestions that may help you [if the inner
torment is still going on], then please let me know.
Peace and Love
Sean
PS Be gentle on yourself!!!
<quo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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surmaddream
I had to repost this for anyone experiencing the kinds of a attacks you
experienced. I believe it. I had experienced eck friends I had known for
many year blocking my entrance into the eck temple on the inner with guns
and knifes. As I looked at them in the eyes the weapons they held melted
like butter in their hands, spirit would not allow for their childlike
behavior. I simply passed them by and walked into the inner hall. Again
thanks for sharing.
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http://www.talkaboutreligion.com/group/alt.religion.eckankar/messages/204094.html
cher
anticipated seeing, surry. What a load of mindfrag! <sigh> Get help! Get
professional help! Get professional help soon!!!! Oh... and in case you
didn't get the message??? Get help! LOL.....