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How Akhenaten Demolished Centuries of Egyptian Tradition
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Etznab
Jun 27, 2020, 5:25:54 PM6/27/20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2JbcMoVv24
"After his death, Akhenaten's monuments were dismantled and hidden, his statues were destroyed, and his name excluded from lists of rulers compiled by later pharaohs.[14"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten
This alteration of the king’s name was the first step in a programme to exterminate Egypt’s most powerful deity. What followed was a systematic programme of iconoclasm in which images of Amen and writings of his name throughout Egypt were desecrated and removed. Beyond Egypt’s north Sinai border, in recent excavations I directed, limestone door lintels inscribed with the name of Amenhotep II (Akhenaten’s great-grandfather) were uncovered. Here too, ‘Amen’ was obliterated from the cartouche, and so was Amen-Re’s name. The zealots were careful, however to preserve the writing of Re, which is written with the sun-disc sign (the same hieroglyph used in Aten’s name). The temples of his father, Amenhotep III, were not off-limits. ‘Amen’ is hacked out of the cartouches and images of Amen were erased, even in temples in distant Nubia (Sudan). In some instances, images of other deities were also expunged, and there are cases where the plural writing for ‘gods’ (netjeru) had been scratched off.
https://aeon.co/essays/why-did-an-ancient-egyptian-king-erase-all-gods-but-aten
Then I think they later did the same kinds of things to Akenaten after he died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2JbcMoVv24
"After his death, Akhenaten's monuments were dismantled and hidden, his statues were destroyed, and his name excluded from lists of rulers compiled by later pharaohs.[14"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten
This alteration of the king’s name was the first step in a programme to exterminate Egypt’s most powerful deity. What followed was a systematic programme of iconoclasm in which images of Amen and writings of his name throughout Egypt were desecrated and removed. Beyond Egypt’s north Sinai border, in recent excavations I directed, limestone door lintels inscribed with the name of Amenhotep II (Akhenaten’s great-grandfather) were uncovered. Here too, ‘Amen’ was obliterated from the cartouche, and so was Amen-Re’s name. The zealots were careful, however to preserve the writing of Re, which is written with the sun-disc sign (the same hieroglyph used in Aten’s name). The temples of his father, Amenhotep III, were not off-limits. ‘Amen’ is hacked out of the cartouches and images of Amen were erased, even in temples in distant Nubia (Sudan). In some instances, images of other deities were also expunged, and there are cases where the plural writing for ‘gods’ (netjeru) had been scratched off.
https://aeon.co/essays/why-did-an-ancient-egyptian-king-erase-all-gods-but-aten
Then I think they later did the same kinds of things to Akenaten after he died.
fife
Jun 27, 2020, 5:30:51 PM6/27/20
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Ahkenaten also married his mother (very strange). He's thought to be Sophocles' inspiration for Sophocles' play Oedipus Rex.
Etznab
Jun 27, 2020, 5:41:02 PM6/27/20
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On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 4:30:51 PM UTC-5, fife wrote:
> Ahkenaten also married his mother (very strange). He's thought to be Sophocles' inspiration for Sophocles' play Oedipus Rex.
Not strange. More than one Pharaoh married into the female line of their immediate family. Sometimes they married the daughters.
> Ahkenaten also married his mother (very strange). He's thought to be Sophocles' inspiration for Sophocles' play Oedipus Rex.
One rumored reason why has to do with mitochondrial DNA.
https://tinyurl.com/y8hmvnvs
fife
Jun 27, 2020, 5:48:57 PM6/27/20
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Etznab
Jun 27, 2020, 5:55:05 PM6/27/20
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Henosis Sage
Jun 27, 2020, 7:21:16 PM6/27/20
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Every picture tells a story ...
Henosis Sage
Jun 27, 2020, 7:23:36 PM6/27/20
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On Sunday, 28 June 2020 07:25:54 UTC+10, Etznab wrote:
Well not us personally .. the Knowledge and the topics and
the focus on the facts and the truth of what it means.
They "know of so much better" ... but are only all knowing experts of Nothingness ... little jealous weasels they are.
Henosis Sage
Jun 27, 2020, 7:31:33 PM6/27/20
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But he's a mental case, a fool, a nutjob?
Making all kinds of "false accusations" against you of being a cheap troll.
Of being an abuser.
'FIFE the ASSHOLE total TWISTS my POST into something else entirely'
Isn't he?
Now you're a chatting away AS IF nothing ever happened at all ....
How do you do that?
It's shit easy actually ...
"they pretend to be lovers, givers
they pretend to be altruistic they tend
to be kind
these are the individuals that project
a demeanour of patience and love
often they're psychotherapists
teachers ministers rabbis politicians"
[ And manipulative lying con-artists, and frauds and fakes. ]
"they project to the outside world
a loving giving kind and patient
demeanour but really in the inside that
are deeply selfish and narcissistic"
Passers by can 'Read all about it' here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/NFX1sP0Fih8/XOc4yAuCAQAJ
fife
Jun 27, 2020, 7:44:37 PM6/27/20
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Nothingness ... little jealous weasels they are.
Everyone always seems to be very jealous?
Endlessly harassed by light-weights, fools, some manipulators (eg the Moderator)
and the very very Jealous!
😬
The Jealous Gods Realm
https://www.tibetanbuddhistaltar.org/the-realm-of-the-jealous-gods/
fife
Jun 27, 2020, 8:28:27 PM6/27/20
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The Jealous Gods Realm
It's just a psychological state. But if you don't want to take a look at psychology, the poisonous state of the human mind, the way these folks have. As twelve states, simplified within that to six states, simplified within that to three states. That's okay.
It's just a psychological state. But if you don't want to take a look at psychology, the poisonous state of the human mind, the way these folks have. As twelve states, simplified within that to six states, simplified within that to three states. That's okay.
Henosis Sage
Jun 27, 2020, 8:59:49 PM6/27/20
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On Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:28:27 UTC+10, fife wrote:
> The Jealous Gods Realm
>
> It's just a psychological state. But if you don't want to take a look at psychology, the poisonous state of the human mind, the way these folks have. As twelve states, simplified within that to six states, simplified within that to three states. That's okay.
No shortage of observing the poisonous state of the human mind with you hanging out here Mr NON-Expert of everything.
> The Jealous Gods Realm
>
> It's just a psychological state. But if you don't want to take a look at psychology, the poisonous state of the human mind, the way these folks have. As twelve states, simplified within that to six states, simplified within that to three states. That's okay.
Is their a cartoon type graphic you can share with us that explains all of what you so CONFIDENTLY speak about REALLY SIMPLY so we don't have to THINK TOO MUCH about it and we can then JUST BELIEVE YOU KNOW SOMETHING US POOR PEONS DO NOT?
You useless jack ass.
Gosh reading all those WORDS on a website it's so hard for a disordered NUT JOB to do.
I need YOUR HELP of GREAT ONE!
Please explain it all to us unworthy of your greatness oh Wondrous Tibetan Buddhist Sage!
fife
Jun 27, 2020, 9:09:43 PM6/27/20
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Please explain it all to us unworthy of your greatness oh Wondrous Tibetan Buddhist Sage!
Okay, fine. Read. Don't read. It's all the same to anyone what you ignore when it doesn't fit your world view and you have no curiosity.
You have your own reasons.
Why does your ego (seem to be) so fragile? Are you afraid of losing your opinion? Keep it. Lose it. It's all the same to anyone else. It's only you who seem to think it's more important than anything else.
Henosis Sage
Jun 27, 2020, 9:11:25 PM6/27/20
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"But if you don't want to take a look at psychology ....."
Says the Half Wit to two people who have been looking deeply into human psychological traits, postign endless amouts of information about that, and discussing the Psychology of Eckankar and ECKIsts and Cults, and Fake news, and LIES in DOGMA, and reactions to facts/truth, of religion of spirituality for nigh on 20 years here already ....
Nah, no one her would be interested in or WANT TO LOOK at Psychology or know jack shit about it.
Certainly no one here could know more than what FIFE the Great Psychologist Fount of all Knowledge knows, right? Certainly not.
That's probably because everyone can happily IGNORE all those posts with comments and refs that have been made about PSYCHOLOGY in relation to RELIGION and BELIEFS made by me and etznab during the last TWO YEARS while equally IGNORING and PRETENDING that there is NO PSYCHOLOGY info also located in the Paul Twitchell Eckankar History Archive on Google Docs ... OR PRETEND there is NO BUDDHIST information or commentary on the PTEHA either to their hearts content
hoping that the lousy critical thinking skills of HIS (off-site) followers won't notice because they have a attention span of grasshoppers ... right up there with the typical critical thinking skills of your favourite Cult Member or fake conspiracy theorists aka NUTJOB.
Right Fifie??? That's the plan isn't it? Come on you can tell me the Truth .. can;t you?
What's your name Fifie?
No I don;t want to know the "fake name" you might have gone for in the past .. the name on your birth/marriage certificate will do.
Come Mr and Mrs Fraud .... what's the weak excuse going to be this time?
,
Says the Half Wit to two people who have been looking deeply into human psychological traits, postign endless amouts of information about that, and discussing the Psychology of Eckankar and ECKIsts and Cults, and Fake news, and LIES in DOGMA, and reactions to facts/truth, of religion of spirituality for nigh on 20 years here already ....
Nah, no one her would be interested in or WANT TO LOOK at Psychology or know jack shit about it.
Certainly no one here could know more than what FIFE the Great Psychologist Fount of all Knowledge knows, right? Certainly not.
That's probably because everyone can happily IGNORE all those posts with comments and refs that have been made about PSYCHOLOGY in relation to RELIGION and BELIEFS made by me and etznab during the last TWO YEARS while equally IGNORING and PRETENDING that there is NO PSYCHOLOGY info also located in the Paul Twitchell Eckankar History Archive on Google Docs ... OR PRETEND there is NO BUDDHIST information or commentary on the PTEHA either to their hearts content
hoping that the lousy critical thinking skills of HIS (off-site) followers won't notice because they have a attention span of grasshoppers ... right up there with the typical critical thinking skills of your favourite Cult Member or fake conspiracy theorists aka NUTJOB.
Right Fifie??? That's the plan isn't it? Come on you can tell me the Truth .. can;t you?
What's your name Fifie?
No I don;t want to know the "fake name" you might have gone for in the past .. the name on your birth/marriage certificate will do.
Come Mr and Mrs Fraud .... what's the weak excuse going to be this time?
,
Henosis Sage
Jun 27, 2020, 9:15:02 PM6/27/20
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"when it doesn't fit your world view and you have no curiosity. "
YOU STUPID WANKER
"Why does your ego (seem to be) so fragile? Are you afraid of losing your opinion?"
"It's only you who seem to think it's more important than anything else."
How JUDGEMENTAL of you , and wrong of you, to say so 'you' IDIOTIC INSIDIOUS TROLL 'you'.
Henosis Sage
Jun 28, 2020, 3:50:08 AM6/28/20
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what a fucking idiot that Fife is..
what a loser
what an abusive slimy lightweight jealous fool of a troll he is.
Let's recap shall we?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/NFX1sP0Fih8/a024-q6BAQAJ
Covert Narcissists: Wolves In Sheep's Clothing.
Cloaked Narcissists. Pretend Codependents.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/NFX1sP0Fih8/XOc4yAuCAQAJ
Here is the troll tactics list.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/PH6FZz_xgUs/zVsARJHcAgAJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/PH6FZz_xgUs/KWZlRbvgAgAJ
Henosis Sage
Jun 28, 2020, 4:13:15 AM6/28/20
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2020M 1 seasonTV Shows
A Hasidic Jewish woman in Brooklyn flees to Berlin from an arranged marriage and is taken in by a group of musicians — until her past comes calling.
https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81019069
Some men are far superior from Birth.
Deborah Feldman: rejecting my Hasidic roots
Deborah Feldman was 23 when she walked away from the closed-off world of the Satmar sect in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
The Hasidic sect she grew up in had been created by a charismatic Rabbi in the years after WWII.
Most members were Holocaust survivors or their descendants, lived under a strict religious code governing what they could wear, who they could speak to and what they could read. A central tenet of the sect was a complete rejection of modern culture.
Despite this, Deborah grew up into an intelligent and independent-minded young woman who loved the novels of Jane Austen.
As a teenager she was married off to a man she barely knew. Then after some years trapped in a sexually and emotionally dysfunctional marriage, Deborah gave birth to a son at the age of 19.
It was then that she knew she had to find the courage to leave the Satmar.
Within a few years, she’d fled Williamsburg with her son, to forge a new life in Berlin.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/deborah-feldman/12371684
Another Feldman .. what a co-incidence. ;-)
Henosis Sage
Jun 28, 2020, 4:14:35 AM6/28/20
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and making comments totally disconnected from what Etznab is addressing ... is he that dumb or is it intentional DISTRACTION ...
I don't care either way, bottom line is that it's very screwed up no matter the reasons/excuses given.
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 4:33:08 AM6/28/20
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I don't care either way
You sure spend a lot of time posting imaginary molehills into imaginary mountains for someone who says they don't care either way. Says repeatedly. Is anyone supposed to believe that any more?
Henosis Sage
Jun 28, 2020, 5:57:37 AM6/28/20
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On Sunday, 28 June 2020 18:33:08 UTC+10, fife wrote:
> I don't care either way
>
> You sure spend a lot of time posting imaginary molehills into imaginary mountains for someone who says they don't care either way. Says repeatedly. Is anyone supposed to believe that any more?
Is that all you have? That's it.
> I don't care either way
>
> You sure spend a lot of time posting imaginary molehills into imaginary mountains for someone who says they don't care either way. Says repeatedly. Is anyone supposed to believe that any more?
Not a grovelling apology from you anywhere in sight yet, hey?
Troll
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 11:12:56 AM6/28/20
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Not a grovelling apology from you anywhere in sight yet, hey?
😲 You just don't get what you're showing yourself as at all. Do you?
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 1:52:28 PM6/28/20
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TROLL
You've been doing a fair bit of trolling yourself, sport. Can I take notes? Will you teach me how to do critical thinking?
Oh, no. I shouldn't have said that! You're so full of yourself you probably see that as a straight question and will do your best based on that. Brilliantly critical of course.
But, try to up your game. You're becoming entirely too repetitive. Your slurs are losing all their zip and your phobic iterations all their dash.
You've been doing a fair bit of trolling yourself, sport. Can I take notes? Will you teach me how to do critical thinking?
Oh, no. I shouldn't have said that! You're so full of yourself you probably see that as a straight question and will do your best based on that. Brilliantly critical of course.
But, try to up your game. You're becoming entirely too repetitive. Your slurs are losing all their zip and your phobic iterations all their dash.
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 2:02:29 PM6/28/20
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But do share, of course. I'm sure everone loves the repetition.
Tisra Til
Jun 28, 2020, 7:41:00 PM6/28/20
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fife
Jun 28, 2020, 9:41:29 PM6/28/20
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fife
Jun 28, 2020, 9:58:59 PM6/28/20
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And Buddhist statues, wall paintings, particularly along the old Silk Road has been going on since the '70s.
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 10:13:54 PM6/28/20
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Regimes simply do this. Not only erect new monuments to the new regime and its heroes but tear down old ones, close churches, ban or virtually ban religion (Soviet Russia).
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 10:33:52 PM6/28/20
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But "stateless" movements like ISIL/ISIS, BLM International?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/black-lives-matter-co-founder-patrisse-cullors-confirms-trained-organizers-marxists-video/
I wondered why they didn't have more leverage in the police reform, police union reform movement. Apparently no one wants to sit down with them for a reason.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/black-lives-matter-co-founder-patrisse-cullors-confirms-trained-organizers-marxists-video/
I wondered why they didn't have more leverage in the police reform, police union reform movement. Apparently no one wants to sit down with them for a reason.
fife
Jun 28, 2020, 10:39:23 PM6/28/20
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😃
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss?" Meet the new radical, same as the old radical? Left, Right, or whatever?
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss?" Meet the new radical, same as the old radical? Left, Right, or whatever?
fife
Jun 29, 2020, 12:35:12 AM6/29/20
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It seems like everyone has forgotten about calling out bigotry - personal, social, political, and more - over the last 60 years. But it's still a problem.
Henosis Sage
Jun 29, 2020, 4:23:30 AM6/29/20
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Really? When did this happen exactly?
"hey I have to give you some
feedback about something you're doing
wrong and I'm hoping that you can take
care of that"
and what will happen immediately
is something will click in the
covert a narcissist
you'll see something in their eyes
and their facial expression
(or in their written reply if its online)
and you'll know you triggered
what we call a Narcissistic INJURY
the covert narcissist will get mad and angry
but because they're adept at hiding or
true self they will they will come up
with a plan and how to hurt you
how to defend themselves
how to take away your credibility
or they just might become offensive aggressive
and try to control you by using
manipulative strategies and psychological
techniques to make you believe that
you are wrong in your judgment and
that YOU SHOULD APOLOGISE for your negative feedback ....
Ref: Dr Rosenburg .... probably born Jewish and really like the guy a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AOOKHyddQ
And Sam Vaknin too another born Jewish person ... wonderful very smart helpful guy, even if is a self-recognised "narcissist"
Shmuel "Sam" Vaknin (born April 21, 1961) is an Israeli writer.
Known for Self-help material on narcissistic personality disorder.
He is the author of Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited (1999), was
editor-in-chief of political news website Global Politician, and runs a
private website about narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). He has also
postulated a theory on chronons and time asymmetry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Vaknin
Knows his 'psychology' this chap. I learnt a lot. Brilliant guy, and a
great 'self-help' website; one of the first on the internet in the mid-1990s
fife
Jun 29, 2020, 5:09:51 AM6/29/20
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"hey I have to give you some
feedback about something you're doing
wrong and I'm hoping that you can take
care of that"
and what will happen immediately
is something will click in the
covert a narcissist
you'll see something in their eyes
and their facial expression
(or in their written reply if its online)
and you'll know you triggered
what we call a Narcissistic INJURY
the covert narcissist will get mad and angry
but because they're adept at hiding or
true self they will they will come up
with a plan and how to hurt you
how to defend themselves
how to take away your credibility
or they just might become offensive aggressive
and try to control you by using
manipulative strategies and psychological
techniques to make you believe that
you are wrong in your judgment and
that YOU SHOULD APOLOGISE for your negative feedback ....
You've been doing all of this for weeks, I don't know how you don't understand that. Maybe you're impervious to introspection. And you told me years ago on this board that you had a lot of trigger points. At the time I had no idea you were talking about triggering narcissistic injuries.
feedback about something you're doing
wrong and I'm hoping that you can take
care of that"
and what will happen immediately
is something will click in the
covert a narcissist
you'll see something in their eyes
and their facial expression
(or in their written reply if its online)
and you'll know you triggered
what we call a Narcissistic INJURY
the covert narcissist will get mad and angry
but because they're adept at hiding or
true self they will they will come up
with a plan and how to hurt you
how to defend themselves
how to take away your credibility
or they just might become offensive aggressive
and try to control you by using
manipulative strategies and psychological
techniques to make you believe that
you are wrong in your judgment and
that YOU SHOULD APOLOGISE for your negative feedback ....
???
Henosis Sage
Jun 29, 2020, 8:39:32 AM6/29/20
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On Monday, 29 June 2020 19:09:51 UTC+10, fife wrote:
> You've been doing all of this for weeks, I don't know how you don't understand that.
6. Get emotional and appear to be shocked and surprised when someone puts the simple truth in front of your face.
> You've been doing all of this for weeks, I don't know how you don't understand that.
> Maybe you're impervious to introspection.
5. Put everything incriminating in the rear view mirror like it is history now and nobody cares. Defend your fellow trolls, and solicit their support while continuing to mock your target.
> And you told me years ago on this board that you had a lot of trigger points.
> At the time I had no idea you were talking about triggering narcissistic injuries.
>
> ???
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