Eckankar or Weckankar
wernertrp
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This is Eckankar:
Eckankar:
1. Eckankar is the religion of the Light and Sound of God, also known
as the
Ancient Science of Soul Travel. Eckankar was established by Paul
Twitchell,
the modern-day founder, in 1965.
2. Paul notes in the first chapters of the Spiritual Notebook that the
purpose of Eckankar is to lead the student as quickly as possible to
the
ECK, the true and only path back to God.
ECK:
1. "ECK" is another name for the Holy Spirit, the Voice of God which
can be
experienced inwardly as Light and Sound. The Sharyiat-Ki-Sugmad, the
“bible”
of ECKists, describes the ECK as a Golden Arrow pointing the way back
to
God.
2. The ECK is actually not a word, but has been called a "universal
symbol"
for the Holy Spirit. To understand this, turn the old style EK symbol
on
end ('E' side up) and contemplate it for a bit. Can you see the
narrow way?
Can you see the razor's edge? Can you see the 'arrow' pointing the
way
back to God? A story I tell to my children's class illustrates this
symbology more graphically. You need a pencil and paper:
-- The Sugmad, another name for God, also known as the Ocean of Love
and
Mercy, covers all the -worlds [draw a half circle, like a big upside
down U
on the paper.]
-- Out of the heart of Sugmad flows the ECK, the Holy Spirit, the
Audible
Life Stream [draw a line | coming down from the center of the U
equidistant
between and equal to the ends of the circle]
-- The ECK flows as a pure unconditioned current until it reaches the
Soul
plane, the dividing line between the spiritual and physical worlds
[draw a
straight line going across ---, slightly below the upside down U]
-- Below the Soul plane, the ECK splits into conditioned positive and
negative principles such as good and bad [draw an upside down V
starting at
the line going across, with the ends of the V about as wide as the U].
I end this "story" by turning the drawing on the side and asking the
kids:
could this be the reason that EK has been described as a universal
symbol
for the Holy Spirit? This is the way I leave it with you.
Soul:
1. Soul is the True Self, the inner, most sacred part of each person.
Soul
exists before birth and lives on after the death of the physical body.
As a
spark of God, Soul can see, know and perceive all things. It is the
creative center of its own worlds.
2. Like a lens directs and focuses light, Soul focuses your attention
with
varying degrees of intensity over a large or a small area within the
self
imposed boundaries of your consciousness.
Soul Travel:
1. Soul Travel is the expansion of consciousness. It is the ability
of Soul
to transcend the physical body and travel into the spiritual worlds of
God.
2. With Soul Travel, there is no need for an intermediary between you
and
God, as you can have the direct experience.
Hu:
1. Hu is an ancient, secret name for God. Singing the word Hu
(pronounced
hue), either silently or out loud, is considered a Love Song to God.
2. Singing Hu is popular with ECKists because it is one of the
simplest,
most effective Soul Travel techniques available to refocus
Soul’s attention
on the ECK.
ECK Master:
1. An ECK Master is a Master of the ECK. Paul called this ECK Adepts
in the
Spiritual Notebook. Being an ECK Master has nothing to do with being
in
control of other people in any way.
2. All ECKists have a goal to become an ECK Master. All ECKists tend
to
seek out other ECK Masters to assist them in their personal journey to
mastership. This is a mentor/protege relationship, and nothing more.
The Living ECK Master:
1. The Living ECK Master is the title of the Spiritual Leader of
Eckankar.
His responsibility is to lead Souls back to God and keep the teachings
of
Eckankar pure. He can assist spiritual students physically as the
Outer
Master, in the dream state as the Dream Master and in the spiritual
worlds
as the Inner Master.
2. The current Living ECK Master serves until handing over the title
to the
next. At that point, he takes his place among the Vairagi ECK
Masters. If
still living in a physical body, he can assist his former students
outwardly. Regardless, he can be looked to inwardly for assistance by
any
Souls who desire.
Vairagi ECK Masters:
1. Variagi derives from Variag, a term meaning detachment.
2. In this context, the Variagi are past Living ECK Masters or other
God
Realized Souls no longer in their physical body that can assist people
in
their spiritual studies and travels.
Mahanta:
1. The Mahanta is a title ECKists use to describe the highest state of
God
Consciousness on earth, often embodied in the Living ECK Master.
2. The Mahanta is the Living Word, an expression of the Spirit of God
that
is always with you, and a consciousness that we can achieve in this
lifetime. In Eckankar, a six pointed blue star is often used to
symbolize
the Mahanta consciousness.
I have another story that I use in children's classes to provide one
possible explanation for this that brings together an ordinary wooden
block
and six of the "God Worlds of ECK". But I'll save that one for
another
time. Here is a hint as a seed of contemplation: It has been said
that the
worlds are not really stacked up on top of each other as shown in the
popular chart, but that they are six equal aspects of our nature, and
that
we must gain mastery over each.
The Four Fundamentals of ECK:
1. Self Discipline
-- the focus is on "self" but it does help to have a mentor to provide
outside feeback once in a while
2. Absolute inner reliance on the Mahanta
-- not necessarily manifested as the Living ECK Master, but rather as
the
consciousness
-- to me, this means to surrender, or give unconditionally, and is the
basic idea behind the affirmation: "I declare that I am a true vehicle
and
distributor of the divine EK, and all my thoughts, words, actions and
feelings are done in the name of the Mahanta."
-- unconditional giving takes your attention off of the future and can
help turn your attention back to what you can do NOW in the moment.
3. The Spiritual Exercises of ECK
-- these bring the Holy Spirit into your life
-- to me it is through the Spiritual Exercises of ECK, that we enter a
state of grace and take on the qualities of God
-- this is not seeking, but rather is Seeing, Knowing and Being,
focusing
your attention completely in the moment.
4. True contemplation of the works of ECK
-- this is not reading ECK books, but rather contemplating how the
Holy
Spirit has helped you
-- true contemplation leads to gratitude, which opens the heart and
leads
to an incredible wave that takes you out of the past into the present
moment.
In short, the fundamentals of ECK lead you into the heart of God,
which is
always in the present moment, Here Now.
This is not Eckankar:
Eckankar:
1. Eckankar is the religion of the Light and Sound of God, also known
as the
Ancient Science of Soul Travel. Eckankar was established by Paul
Twitchell,
the modern-day founder, in 1965.
2. Paul notes in the first chapters of the Spiritual Notebook that the
purpose of Eckankar is to lead the student as quickly as possible to
the
ECK, the true and only path back to God.
ECK:
1. "ECK" is another name for the Holy Spirit, the Voice of God which
can be
experienced inwardly as Light and Sound. The Sharyiat-Ki-Sugmad, the
“bible”
of ECKists, describes the ECK as a Golden Arrow pointing the way back
to
God.
2. The ECK is actually not a word, but has been called a "universal
symbol"
for the Holy Spirit. To understand this, turn the old style EK symbol
on
end ('E' side up) and contemplate it for a bit. Can you see the
narrow way?
Can you see the razor's edge? Can you see the 'arrow' pointing the
way
back to God? A story I tell to my children's class illustrates this
symbology more graphically. You need a pencil and paper:
-- The Sugmad, another name for God, also known as the Ocean of Love
and
Mercy, covers all the -worlds [draw a half circle, like a big upside
down U
on the paper.]
-- Out of the heart of Sugmad flows the ECK, the Holy Spirit, the
Audible
Life Stream [draw a line | coming down from the center of the U
equidistant
between and equal to the ends of the circle]
-- The ECK flows as a pure unconditioned current until it reaches the
Soul
plane, the dividing line between the spiritual and physical worlds
[draw a
straight line going across ---, slightly below the upside down U]
-- Below the Soul plane, the ECK splits into conditioned positive and
negative principles such as good and bad [draw an upside down V
starting at
the line going across, with the ends of the V about as wide as the U].
I end this "story" by turning the drawing on the side and asking the
kids:
could this be the reason that EK has been described as a universal
symbol
for the Holy Spirit? This is the way I leave it with you.
Soul:
1. Soul is the True Self, the inner, most sacred part of each person.
Soul
exists before birth and lives on after the death of the physical body.
As a
spark of God, Soul can see, know and perceive all things. It is the
creative center of its own worlds.
2. Like a lens directs and focuses light, Soul focuses your attention
with
varying degrees of intensity over a large or a small area within the
self
imposed boundaries of your consciousness.
Soul Travel:
1. Soul Travel is the expansion of consciousness. It is the ability
of Soul
to transcend the physical body and travel into the spiritual worlds of
God.
2. With Soul Travel, there is no need for an intermediary between you
and
God, as you can have the direct experience.
Hu:
1. Hu is an ancient, secret name for God. Singing the word Hu
(pronounced
hue), either silently or out loud, is considered a Love Song to God.
2. Singing Hu is popular with ECKists because it is one of the
simplest,
most effective Soul Travel techniques available to refocus
Soul’s attention
on the ECK.
ECK Master:
1. An ECK Master is a Master of the ECK. Paul called this ECK Adepts
in the
Spiritual Notebook. Being an ECK Master has nothing to do with being
in
control of other people in any way.
2. All ECKists have a goal to become an ECK Master. All ECKists tend
to
seek out other ECK Masters to assist them in their personal journey to
mastership. This is a mentor/protege relationship, and nothing more.
The Living ECK Master:
1. The Living ECK Master is the title of the Spiritual Leader of
Eckankar.
His responsibility is to lead Souls back to God and keep the teachings
of
Eckankar pure. He can assist spiritual students physically as the
Outer
Master, in the dream state as the Dream Master and in the spiritual
worlds
as the Inner Master.
2. The current Living ECK Master serves until handing over the title
to the
next. At that point, he takes his place among the Vairagi ECK
Masters. If
still living in a physical body, he can assist his former students
outwardly. Regardless, he can be looked to inwardly for assistance by
any
Souls who desire.
Vairagi ECK Masters:
1. Variagi derives from Variag, a term meaning detachment.
2. In this context, the Variagi are past Living ECK Masters or other
God
Realized Souls no longer in their physical body that can assist people
in
their spiritual studies and travels.
Mahanta:
1. The Mahanta is a title ECKists use to describe the highest state of
God
Consciousness on earth, often embodied in the Living ECK Master.
2. The Mahanta is the Living Word, an expression of the Spirit of God
that
is always with you, and a consciousness that we can achieve in this
lifetime. In Eckankar, a six pointed blue star is often used to
symbolize
the Mahanta consciousness.
I have another story that I use in children's classes to provide one
possible explanation for this that brings together an ordinary wooden
block
and six of the "God Worlds of ECK". But I'll save that one for
another
time. Here is a hint as a seed of contemplation: It has been said
that the
worlds are not really stacked up on top of each other as shown in the
popular chart, but that they are six equal aspects of our nature, and
that
we must gain mastery over each.
The Four Fundamentals of ECK:
1. Self Discipline
-- the focus is on "self" but it does help to have a mentor to provide
outside feeback once in a while
2. Absolute inner reliance on the Mahanta
-- not necessarily manifested as the Living ECK Master, but rather as
the
consciousness
-- to me, this means to surrender, or give unconditionally, and is the
basic idea behind the affirmation: "I declare that I am a true vehicle
and
distributor of the divine EK, and all my thoughts, words, actions and
feelings are done in the name of the Mahanta."
-- unconditional giving takes your attention off of the future and can
help turn your attention back to what you can do NOW in the moment.
3. deleted-deleted-deleted:
(any SSE [special spiritual excercise],
including the chinese water torture)
4. True contemplation of the works of ECK
-- this is not reading ECK books, but rather contemplating how the
Holy
Spirit has helped you
-- true contemplation leads to gratitude, which opens the heart and
leads
to an incredible wave that takes you out of the past into the present
moment.
In short, the fundamentals of ECK lead you into the heart of God,
which is
always in the present moment, Here Now.
This is Weckankar:
(Werners Eckankar)
Eckankar ist/ißt Scheiße.
werner winzig witziger wahnwitz welten kopieren satt zoo ;-)
MomentaryEckist
> Achtung:
> Lange Artikel bedeuten nicht, daß man lange daran geschrieben hat.
>
The Law of Economy is a wonderful thing to exploit.
>
> This is Eckankar:
>
I snipped all the terms I posted on the HCS site exactly as is.
Another side of the coin of Economy!
>
> This is not Eckankar:
>
I snipped all that werner left exactly the same except for the third
fundamental, so this is not a "total" copy:
>
> 3. deleted-deleted-deleted:
> (any SSE [special spiritual excercise],
> including the chinese water torture)
>
I also snipped the fourth fundamental he left the same as I had
written.
>
> This is Weckankar:
> (Werners Eckankar)
>
> Eckankar ist/ißt Scheiße.
>
> werner winzig witziger wahnwitz welten kopieren satt zoo ;-)
Quite a puzzle to work out here. First, with respect to the what is
"not" Eckankar, there are at least two interpretations that I can see
without too much effort.
The first is that you had nothing to say about the other terms and
fundamentals, but were simply pointing out that a path would not be
Eckankar without the spiritual exercises. This interpretation seemed
too easy, because at first glance, it is something I can actually
agree with... <ggg> Also, I have come to know you to be a
multi-faceted individual that cannot be taken at first glance.
So the second interpretation keyed off the equating of a spiritual
exercise with a water torture. This one is that the definitions that
I have written that you left untouched are simultaneously Eckankar
doctrine and NOT Eckankar doctrine, depending on where you read; and
that the focus on the Spiritual Exercises of ECK is the only
consistent message that get's presented (which is why deleting that
fundamental is so "fund"-damental). If this interpretation is
correct, then for someone who is on the "detractor" side of the
Eckankar fence, werner's net message is that only consistent message
you get with Eckankar is that you must torture yourself! <g>
Of course your final concise, "waking" analysis of Eckankar adds
weight to this second interpretation: its all bad. Except that here
you say "your" Eckankar, not "mine". Did you mean to say "in your
estimation, anyone's Eckankar is and eats feces" ?
I guess in the end it is still a puzzle. A bit of a diversion while
watching Amadeus. But I submit that maybe you see the shit because
you are holding onto the tail of the elephant and I am holding onto
the head.
Good luck back there. May I suggest finding another elephant? Or,
you can also find another part of the same elephant to cling to that
isn't in such close proximity to the smelly end. Both require letting
go.
Keep having fun whatever you decide.
Ok then, Geoff
wernertrp
in this article I have nothing to say to the other points
at the moment I will handle only the SSE here.
When there is not this SSE third eye spirirual exercise they-???
invent another form of
exercise(s) which may have similar results/effects on me.
Especially the premature exercises.
If these SSE exercise is changed we have a lightweight diversification
of Eckankar.
Yes, I am a great torture specialist.
Drop, drop, drop between the eyebrows.
Yes, I say my Weckankar was a flop.
You are a lucky guy with an eckankar who touched the
head and the sunny side of eckankar which was a hit not a flop.
Some aboroginals make medicine from elephant shit.
Having fun with ARE is a limited lightweight fun version.
Ken
"wernertrp" <schube...@t-online.de> wrote ...
>
> Some aboroginals make medicine from elephant shit.
>
> Having fun with ARE is a limited lightweight fun version.
Which would make it . . .
Chicken shit?
<G>
Sean
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Or maybe flee shit?
Sometimes irritatingly painful but damned if you can catch what caused it!
<G>
>
wernertrp
Which shit is better fly shit or flee shit or stay shit ?
Durchhalteparolen.
Wenn der Meister zuviel schreit
Die Parole "Seid bereit"
komm' und sei ein Pionier
folge mir.
Dann steht gleich der chela stramm
kneift die Backen wie 'ne Zang
mit der er Nüsse knacken kann.
Sinkt die Temperatur im center
meinen alle es sei Winter
Singen stark und laut das hu
steigt die Temperatur im Nu.
Bee
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> "Sean" <whyb...@all.com> wrote in message
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> > "Ken" <kah...@attachments.att.net> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "wernertrp" <schube...@t-online.de> wrote ...
> > > >
> > > > Some aboroginals make medicine from elephant shit.
> > > >
> > > > Having fun with ARE is a limited lightweight fun version.
> > >
> > > Which would make it . . .
> > >
> > > Chicken shit?
> > >
> > > <G>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Or maybe flee shit?
> >
> > Sometimes irritatingly painful but damned if you can catch what caused
it!
> > <G>
> >
> > >
>
>
> Which shit is better fly shit or flee shit or stay shit ?
I don't know you tell me ...
>
>
> Durchhalteparolen.
>
> Wenn der Meister zuviel schreit
> Die Parole "Seid bereit"
> komm' und sei ein Pionier
> folge mir.
slickin di it in yarrass
komma long waiin yorpass t
suzz n shunme it bi un tu ya.
>
> Dann steht gleich der chela stramm
> kneift die Backen wie 'ne Zang
> mit der er Nüsse knacken kann.
dun shkit in u rown du
ly ke u pei na bu ket
yi go t snu k of t
>
> Sinkt die Temperatur im center
> meinen alle es sei Winter
> Singen stark und laut das hu
> steigt die Temperatur im Nu.
sun kin shi t fli in it
und fli un u
se uiz sh it ay ..
uuuuuuuu?
Sean
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>
> "wernertrp" <schube...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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> > "Sean" <whyb...@all.com> wrote in message
> news:<zMidnccRheR...@inspired.net.au>...
> > > "Ken" <kah...@attachments.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:nvBWb.20065$fV5.4...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > >
> > > > "wernertrp" <schube...@t-online.de> wrote ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Some aboroginals make medicine from elephant shit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Having fun with ARE is a limited lightweight fun version.
> > > >
> > > > Which would make it . . .
> > > >
> > > > Chicken shit?
> > > >
> > > > <G>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Or maybe flee shit?
> > >
> > > Sometimes irritatingly painful but damned if you can catch what caused
> it!
> > > <G>
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > Which shit is better fly shit or flee shit or stay shit ?
>
Obviously Werner, you don't know Jack Shit!
OK now pay attention please:
Jack is the only son of Awe Shit and O. Shit. Awe Shit, the fertilizer
magnate, married O. Shit, the owner of Needeep N. Shit, Inc.
They had one son, Jack. In turn, Jack Shit married Noe Shit and the deeply
religious couple produced 6 children: Holie Shit, Fulla Shit, Giva Shit,
Bull Shit and the twins, Deep Shit and Dip Shit.
Against her parent's objections, Deep Shit married Dumb Shit, a high school
drop out.
However, after being married 15 years, Jack and Noe Shit divorced. Noe Shit
later remarried Ted Sherlock and because her kids from her first marriage
were living with them, she wanted to keep her previous name. She was then
known as Noe Shit-Sherlock.
Meanwhile, Dip Shit married Loda Shit and they produced a son of nervous
disposition, Chicken Shit.
Two other of the six children, Fulla Shit and Giva Shit, were inseparable
throughout childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a dual
ceremony. The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the
Shit-Happens wedding. The Shit-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd, Hoarse.
Bull Shit, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently
returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa Shit.
So, now when someone says, "You don't know Jack Shit," you can correct them.
wernertrp
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> > > > >
> > > > > "wernertrp" <schube...@t-online.de> wrote ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some aboroginals make medicine from elephant shit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having fun with ARE is a limited lightweight fun version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which would make it . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > Chicken shit?
> > > > >
> > > > > <G>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or maybe flee shit?
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes irritatingly painful but damned if you can catch what caused
> it!
> > > > <G>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Which shit is better fly shit or flee shit or stay shit ?
> >
>
> Obviously Werner, you don't know Jack Shit!
I don't know Jack shit.
Jack and Bill went up the hill.
Do you know the reversed shit story ?
Aus werners Mottenkiste.
Here we go.
Start Bibel redesign:
Before there was a beginning, god (1A*) thinks so deep and seriously.
From this deep thinking he becomes bad feelings so he must puke.
When his great puke has ended he call his second son (2A*):
"You my highest, beloved, beautiful, mercifully, anointed of all my
archangels."
"Look at my puke."
"Now start your own redesign."
And Lucifer started.
Into the PUKE:
1.Moses.
At the beginning Kal Niranjan created the heavens and the earths.
This earth was formless, shapeless, deserted and a dark was above her
surface ... ...
And more of 123.456.666 words.
End of bibel redesign.
1A* = which is the god of the dark-black sun.
2A* = He has two sons.
His first son the Nazarener table- and chair-maker:
After licking the deep brown chocolate of our common
fathers deep asshole, has been crucified immediately.
And his second son was born by:
Because his wife Kali getting a bit bored from her husband is
fucking around some late afternoons.
This will create his second son.
Wer kennt ihn nicht den kleinen Hävelmann:
The nightprayer of our little Hävelmann:
A mighty-prayer, in nighty-prayer and afterprayer of our little
Hävelmann:
Think the puke,
make the puke,
invite to puke,
deserve the puke.
werner winzig witziger wahnwitz welten puke-shit zoo ;-)
To shit is a very important life function.
My parents have had a little wood sticker at the toilett room:
Wenn's Arscherl brummt is Herz'l g'sund.