Tara Pilgrimage 2009 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zauAoLHKsgc
Tara Pilgrimage 2009 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDKPyzzxnLw
Tara Pilgrimage 2009 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqMBdm8g2-w
Tell that to the Horse Marines , heh heh heh
( This Connors Propaganda Unit is even more Unbelievable, Incredible
and more Stupid than Stalin's Propaganda Unit )
Cheers,
Michael.
Ta failte romhat a chara. Buiochas leatsa, do bhean cheile is do
chlann go leir mar gheal ar an draiocht a coinníonn sibh ar son an
Naisun ar fad.
Athnaionn ciarrog ciarrog eile !
( one fool recognises another - ancient irish proverb)
Cheers,
Michael
Wrong spelling McGrath, only one 'r' and totally incorrect translation
as
ciaróg actually means beetle - and this means you are the fool.
No surprises there anyway.
Cant you see you are totally exposed as a fraud and fake and fool?
You are only making it worse for yourself
Ask in St Lukes for help and a nice little rest in a corner
I did look at bits of the videos, too impatient to listen all the way
through. I'm not into sermons/lectures and the sound quality was
low. I thought it good that children were involved. They're the
future. And, whereas, I'd be suspicious of anyone involved in the
a.r.d flamewar instructing children, I think it's good to get them out
in nature and on a sacred site. Children frequently have more
effective b.s. detectors than adults do.
What I liked more were just the silent camera views of the hilltop.
Elaine
The videos were not so much meant to be entertainment as proof that
Con Connor was in fact on Tara for Solstice and that Michael McGrath
was, as is usual, lying. That aside, I think if you want to include
references to 'instruction' and 'sermons' in your comment you should
first of all watch the three videos fully so that you can verify it is
not about lecturing or instructing anybody other than to outline the
drum and dance proceedure.
Con starts off by saying, 'this is just for fun'. It is not meant to
be a profound ritual or a ceremony. That took place at sunrise, as far
as I know. This would be the usual time for druids on this side of the
Atlantic to perorm ceremony for solstice. The drum and dance meeting
in the afternoon was just for fun and it would be foolish to judge it
as anything more.
It allows people who turn up as individual visitors to participate and
feel linked to the time and place. Some water was taken from the holy
well and some children poured it on quartz rocks that Con had
collected on his travels around Ireland. His gift to all. No charge!
Con was simply acting as a facilitator for the drum and dance circle.
No Charge! Anyone is free to act in that function, it is not some
pompous 'Archdruid of Ireland and Tara' supremacist crap trying to
lecture and lord it over 'ordinary druids/people'.
As for your opinion that Con should not have anything to do with
children becuase he has stood by his right to defend himself against
the incessant lies and threats of McGrath then I cannot agree. In
fact, as you can see in those videos many parents who know Con a lot
better than anyone here have no problem with him at all. I think what
his friends and neighbours think is a better reference that the
opinion of a muppet like Charles who bases all he knows on the highly
prejudicial lies of McGrath.
Ireland is a small country and if there were any truth in anything
McGrath has alleged about Con Connor then Con would be well shunned.
In fact the opposite is the case. Con is welcomed to facilitate the
drum and dance and interact with children, while McGrath has to
satisfy himself with lying to you all here and spending solstice in
his rotten hovel in Kilkenny. McGrath is the one who is shunned, no
matter what lies he can make you all believe in Cyberland.
Why don't you come to Ireland and judge for yourself? Go and visit
McGrath and you will see for yourself the 'Wizard of Odd' who has been
portraying himself as a real person when in fact he is nothing but a
wretch. See the magnificant person who has been telling you of his
'Palladial home', guitar, dog, car and million euro job. Then go and
visit Con and his family in the hills of Roscommon. And if you arrange
it, you may even be able to meet me or some of my family and see that
I am neither Con or Dwyer.
Children are the future and while it is good to nurture the future it
is a cop out to substitute hope for a brighter future in the place of
what we can actually do in the present. Lets put the future behind us
and live in this moment. Have patience to see what is in front of your
eyes.
I think you should post it because you want to share your activities with
us, and igonore whosits' fantasies. I don't mind lectures or instuctions
but I don't need to listen to them after the fact. I listened to enough to
get an impression of the group, which seemed to have a good feel and
there seemed to be a good response to the speaker
snips
> As for your opinion that Con should not have anything to do with
> children becuase he has stood by his right to defend himself against
> the incessant lies and threats of McGrath then I cannot agree. In
> fact, as you can see in those videos many parents who know Con a lot
> better than anyone here have no problem with him at all. I think what
> his friends and neighbours think is a better reference that the
> opinion of a muppet like Charles who bases all he knows on the highly
> prejudicial lies of McGrath.
I just posted more than enough of my opinion about the MG/Con newsgroup
flamewar in a reply to Con.
> Ireland is a small country and if there were any truth in anything
> McGrath has alleged about Con Connor then Con would be well shunned.
> In fact the opposite is the case. Con is welcomed to facilitate the
> drum and dance and interact with children, while McGrath has to
> satisfy himself with lying to you all here and spending solstice in
> his rotten hovel in Kilkenny. McGrath is the one who is shunned, no
> matter what lies he can make you all believe in Cyberland.
>
> Why don't you come to Ireland and judge for yourself? Go and visit
> McGrath and you will see for yourself the 'Wizard of Odd' who has been
> portraying himself as a real person when in fact he is nothing but a
> wretch. See the magnificant person who has been telling you of his
> 'Palladial home', guitar, dog, car and million euro job. Then go and
> visit Con and his family in the hills of Roscommon. And if you arrange
> it, you may even be able to meet me or some of my family and see that
> I am neither Con or Dwyer.
I'm absolutely aware of who McGrath is. He doesn't fool me a bit.
Con may be a reasonable person but his and your flaming and trolling
and feeding of trolls on a.r.d. leaves me doubting your wisdon.
> Children are the future and while it is good to nurture the future it
> is a cop out to substitute hope for a brighter future in the place of
> what we can actually do in the present. Lets put the future behind us
> and live in this moment. Have patience to see what is in front of your
> eyes.
I said I was glad there were chidren there. And above, said it looked
like a positive gathering. But I just hope none of them learn
nettiqutte from you two.
Elaine
aah stop snivelin'
> The Geis will be enforced protecting new seekers.
you bet it will
The truth...
McGrath should be ignored, not entertained.
That really is the truth. However, he is well entertained here as a
human being and receiving this support he is emboldened in his threats
and lies. If Con or anyone else dares to defend themselves they are
accused of 'trolling' and 'flaming' by the very people who entertain
McGrath! I wonder are those people really commenting on what they see
or simply engaging in surreptitious trolling and flaming themselves?
No actually, I don't wonder.
I was accused by Melvyn Lloyd under cover of being 'Littleloonybear'
of being involved in drugs and nobody said a word except McGrath who
added paedophilia to the list and Con's Druidschool to the
charge ..... nobody said a word...... then when Con responds with a
denial and pointing out that the liars are liars he is 'trolling' and
'flaming'.
Yeah right! That sounds just about right.... in what universe?
> I said I was glad there were chidren there. And above, said it looked
> like a positive gathering. But I just hope none of them learn
> nettiqutte from you two.
It's a tough lesson to learn when one is governed by one's emotions
rather than by good judgement or wisdom. I hope that the people here
who are consumed by their hate realize that these children will one
day see everything they've done and said. Shame on them. Shame on all
of them. I have my own actions to consider so I won't be placing
overly much importance on the gyrations of our current crop of
spammers. flamers, half-truth-tellers and generally all around
sickeningly behaving people.
Searles O'Dubhain
fine meaningless words from a man who makes killing machines for the
war of terror for profit
stupid fascist fool
That could be a very wise statement or a very stupid one. I hesitate
to judge you based your previous contributions. I feel we should all
be allowed the opportunity to reevaluate our opinions. So that I could
better appreciate your opinion you should perhaps clarify instead on
making what appears to be a smear on all those who are not you or
Elaine. It didn't look like the children on Tara were too ashamed of
Con Connor to me. I know his own children are very proud of him and so
am I. On the contrary for you Charles because you have brought shame
on yourself by entertaining the McGrath. You have shamed yourself with
a display of you inability to discriminate the truth from blatant
lies. Then when the truth and the lies have been made clear you have
shamefully declined to apologise for you assumption, based on the
lies. Not 'half-lies' and 'half-truths', but outright lies versus the
facts.
If you talk of posterity judging us to our shame then I think you
should consider yourself first. I know you don't give a shit for Con
or myself so when you talk about us considering our 'shame' I would
point out that is precisely the sort of surreptitious insult and
flaming I mentioned in the previous post. The sort practiced by the
sneaky and snively. Ooops, will that opinion be considered flaming?
I know you like the broad strokes and staying on high lecturing and
preaching but you might want to consider getting off your high horse
and stepping down to meet real people face to face. It might leave you
less likely to be mislead by cyber crims like McGrath.
Changing the subject line won't hide the little game you four just
lost. Try another tack.
No, this isn't spam. It is actually news for once. Of course the
thread reveals the close cooperation between the pathetic duos or ARD
and more importantly how they behave when they lose every argument put
to confront their irrational ramblings.
I was wondering how you rationalized your actions here. It seems that
you are balancing some assumed 'victory' over McGrath with the harm
done to others and ignoring the harm you are doing to your self. You
seem to think you are immune and that others don't count in your
greater scheme of things. It's my opinion that you are very wrong on
all points and that your behavior has exactly the opposite impact to
what you intend.
You are undermining your actions in every way by pronouncing a geis
and then having no confidence in it. One would think that there was
little truth to it at all. You call down on your self the results of
the geis that you have put forth. By violating it, it is you who are
shunned by your actions. By your behavior here you are building the
destruction of anything good that you could have hoped to accomplish.
I've seen these kinds of follies before and will most probably see
them again and again. I have chosen to post here as if my children,
grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be reading them. This is
the lesson one learns from making mistakes and a wise man corrects
those mistakes before it is too late. The bull ruler OTOH just goes
about slaying indiscriminately until he is himself slain.
Searles O'Dubhain
Man, what overblown crap. You think this place or anything said on it
is anything other than pure opinion and discussion - at best and it
isn't at it's best very often. Doe you not think you should take this
place and yourself less seriously and get off the lecturn. I know your
'Cyber' community depends totally on the internet but I hate to break
it to you Charles but that is NOT the real world. When you meet people
in person, on the ground you can do the REAL work. You've gone a bit
too far off into believing in the value if internet druid activity.
It should be obvious at this stage that with a troll like McGrath
present even the most basic issues cannot be discussed. Or would you
rather we all sat back and listened to another of your fake 'Gaelic'
treatises? Is that what you think ARD is for. If so, fire ahead but
don't blame us if we call you a pompous ass and laugh at you.
It's a wonder that you ever accomplish anything. :-)
Searles O'Dubhain
I bet a lot of things are a wonder to you Charles. A lot of things
that require those qualities necessary for the druid path
BTW I had a film expert examine the Connor's Tara video footage.
Confirmed - all old stock !!!
As a Professional Photographer I saw that anyway -
and Elaine noticed the bad sound,
a real sign of old video stock !
My expert dates it as having been shot five years ago,.
In 2004, but he can't determine the actual date in that year except to
say that it was probably shot in Spring or Autumn ( Fall) of that
year.
Another huge Connor's Propaganda Lie nailed :-)
Cheers,
Michael.
Cheers
Of course it's not an 'old stock' you muppet. This video is as genuine
as Con and your stupid attempt to convince yourself it could be
challenged as not genuine is really dim. You are NOT a professional
protographer and you never were and as for Elaine well, I will hold
further comment on her for a response to her next nettiquette lecture.
'Your Expert'? So you have an expert video forensic technician in your
Paladial home. How about you ask Carmel Diveny who met Con on Tara
that day? Is her boss Melvyn not back yet from Scotland? As you say it
is only right she is part of his Grove and in your elitist
authoritarian system, women are subservient to their 'Archdruid'.
Troll all with lies, disinformation, twistings, floodings, threats and
all you got bro it's water off a ducks back.
LOL.
Thats the problem,LOL you are so very funny.
On Jul 3, 10:03 pm, stonehengeio <stoneheng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 9:59 pm, Cormac Mac Carthaigh <guydecerv...@gmail.com>
> LOL.
> Thats the problem,LOL you are so very funny.
On Jul 3, 8:59 pm, Cormac Mac Carthaigh <guydecerv...@gmail.com>
On Jul 3, 10:03 pm, stonehengeio <stoneheng...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 9:59 pm, Cormac Mac Carthaigh <guydecerv...@gmail.com>
> LOL.
> Thats the problem,LOL you are so very funny.
Od stock videotape, old super-8 according to my expert ( from TCD ) -
not modern DV ( Digital Video.) .
You'll get an old Super-8 cam for a fiver on eBay,
probably where Con got it, he's so poverty-stroken !
According to my TCD expert, that vid was shot five years ago !
That's good enough for me .
Cheers,
Michael.
And this is the truth of it: Con was there and the thousands of words
of lies Michael McGrath wrote about going there, being there, and
having been there were an insult to all who read them. That is what he
thinks of ARD. An audience of thickos to be lied to.
Sez a SOCK, worthless.
Puffed out yet you con job.LOL
You're the puff Mickey, in your womens girdle and chinese dress. Puffy
ponce consecrated at an early age by the beardy brother..... Ooooohh,
we know your secret Mickey
Sorry wrong michael,keep on runnng
Right Michael, Right Rollo.
Im micky, keep running
Blood keep running running from the wollo
???????????????????????????????????
If you cannot insult me in a coherent way i suggest you FUCK offt. lol
The nonsense of the British Isles
Will soon be silent
For a long while
For the lesson learned
None will repeat
The foolishness of
Wollo the Creep
This is not "Flame ! Spam! Troll ! Rant !" McGrath and Rollos troll
replied to it many times before attempting to censor it.
That 2004 Tara video would be fine - if Connorses thick skull wasn't
in it ! "
You're not even trying to keep up the charade of having an executive
job are you? What a fool you are. Lying to all and sundry about having
a career and the being so stupid as to keep posting away during the
night and day. You're a full time loser McGrath. Off you go to Moose
Jaw Saskatchewan! There you may find an idiot to match you in
arrogance and ignorance.
Their constant violations of their own so-called geis has certainly had
this very effect on me. Coming back from a hiatus of ten days or so,
and finding over a thousand posts of the same old, I've decided to
toss them all in the filter so as not to be bothered any longer.
Depending on the subject, I'll probably check answers to them by people
I respect and throw out a comment or two, but overall... what's the use.
Waste of time. Simply hopeless. All three of them.
Dan
I'm still catching up hence the mostly quiet from this end except for a few
short posts. This latest batch of crossposters (despite being asked to
stop--they seem to thrive on the attention and discord--sound familiar?) are
also candidates for the killfile.
Stacey
Uuh yes... all that x-posted rubbish from arw and an gets tossed without
saying. LOL! with a supply like ours, who needs imported flame wars...