A Letter to OBOD (Order of Bard, Ovates and Druids)..........................
Shane
that I thought totally contradicted their own ideas.
This is it:
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I apologize if this is not the appropriate place to send this message, but
none of the other available addresses worked. Please do not take this the
wrong way, I am simply trying to reach an understanding.
I have a question, or more a problem.
I have read the book review of "The 21 Lessons of Merlyn" from the OBOD
website and have found some major indescrepancies.
The lady who reviewed the book was entirely unfair in her evaluation.
She mentions that she was a member of Keltria. Does that mean she does not
represent your organization?
In the review, Miss Hopman mentions the Barddas forgery and her dislike for
it, and yet it is used in your teachings, is it not? It is certainly used in
Nichol's "The Book of Druidry." That is a problem for me because of the
reputation of
forgery of the Barddas texts and their "creator", but also, she seems very
upset with Monroe's ideas about the Moon being a lesser and feminine aspect.
She goes on and on about it. And yet, in "The Book of Druidry" by Nichols
(who was the founder of OBOD), we find this on page 119 : "The sun was
active life and creation; the moon, the instinctive reflection, was
therefore the 'lesser' and more feminine thing which partook of the mixed
nature of man."
Please help me to understand.
Are the opinions of Miss Hopman not those of OBOD?
Still, the Barddas question is still relevant either way.
Yours sincerely,
Robert Shane Gau
Ckid
Journey well,
Ckid
Shane <hea...@texas.net> wrote in message news:hO7V3.53791$7I4.1...@news5.giganews.com...
jjb
Ckid wrote in message ...
>After recently Purchasing the 21 Lessons of Merlyn, and signing up for the
>OBOD, I'm quite intrested in where this will go... if you could keep us, or
at >least myself posted, I'd be inhertily greateful
The discussion has been and gone, was dull, and no, you haven't missed
anything. Some like the book, others don't, some don't like OBOD either,
others do. That's the thread in a nutshell - let's hope it doesn't rise from
the dead ;)...
Jerry
Shane
I will still post results, Ok "guy."
jjb wrote in message <3826...@janitor.star.net.uk>...
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Niall
Ckid
<clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message news:3826FC4C...@softcom.net...
| It does not matter! There all twits.
|
| Niall
|
| Shane wrote:
<snip>
Daithí a Iúile O'Broder
ck...@innocent.com says...
> After recently Purchasing the 21 Lessons of Merlyn, and signing up for =
> the OBOD, I'm quite intrested in where this will go... if you could keep =
> us, or at least myself posted, I'd be inhertily greateful.
>
> Journey well,=20
> Ckid
>
Ok....Ckid, you bought... :^)... the 21 Lessons of Monroe and signed up
for the OBOD, I note a distinct confluence here of two paths. Which do
you choose fact (relatively) or fiction?
Daibh
--
"D'aithle na bhfileadh n-uasal, truaghsan timheal an tsaoghail."
(Now that the high bards are gone, pitiful is the waning of the world).
Remove "nospam" from address to reply.
Ckid
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|
| Ok....Ckid, you bought... :^)... the 21 Lessons of Monroe and signed up
| for the OBOD, I note a distinct confluence here of two paths. Which do
| you choose fact (relatively) or fiction?
|
| Daibh
| --
| "D'aithle na bhfileadh n-uasal, truaghsan timheal an tsaoghail."
| (Now that the high bards are gone, pitiful is the waning of the world).
| Remove "nospam" from address to reply.
|
Well obviously fact is the goal. There is no crime in by a book, for every rumor has it's heart in truth, and it is entirely up to me to judge which I feel is more accurate, regardless of who says what. If it wasn't, I'd still be going to Corpus Chiristi every weekend.
Journey well,
Ckid
Shane
Ruiseart agus Ceit wrote in message <38278598...@networx.net.au>...
>*chuckles* Well, for Niall it was educated <G>.
>
>Seriously though, the review of "21 Lessons" is on the OBOD website as
>just that, a book review. This doesn't mean that OBOD agrees with the
>content of the book. Although I read only a couple of pages of it before
>tossing it out myself, I believe it isn't bad as a work of fiction [at
>least there are a lot of people who think it is]. I do know that it is
>one of two books on Druidry that the Order suggests are a waste of
>money.
>
That's the point, friend.
Many of the concepts in the book are taught by OBOD!!!!!
>Anyway, I hope you find the OBOD course helps you.....[those that don't
>like OBOD, don't criticize please, as there are those of us who were not
>disappointed with it.].
>
>Ceit.
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Ruiseart agus Ceit
Seriously though, the review of "21 Lessons" is on the OBOD website as
just that, a book review. This doesn't mean that OBOD agrees with the
content of the book. Although I read only a couple of pages of it before
tossing it out myself, I believe it isn't bad as a work of fiction [at
least there are a lot of people who think it is]. I do know that it is
one of two books on Druidry that the Order suggests are a waste of
money.
Anyway, I hope you find the OBOD course helps you.....[those that don't
jjb
Ckid wrote in message ...
>Well obviously fact is the goal. There is no crime in by a book, for every
>rumor has it's heart in truth,
Weelllll, if I start a rumour that Bill Clinton is the bastard offspring of
Mickey Mouse and JFK, am I in some way being truthful at heart?
> and it is entirely up to me to judge which I feel is more accurate,
regardless of >who says what. If it wasn't, I'd still be going to Corpus
Chiristi every >weekend.
Then why are you asking us for our opinions, when it seems you've made up
your mind?
Jerry
Four Heritage
to be a waste of money and why it is thought to be fictitious in nature. I'm
new and curious so please explain in full.
Ckid
Ruiseart agus Ceit <ra...@networx.net.au> wrote in message news:38285CF0...@networx.net.au...
| I know for a fact that Philip Carr-Gomm says in one of his books [sorry
| the name eludes me at the moment, but when I mentioned it to him he told
| me that he removed the comment for the second print] something to the
| effect that he doesn't make a practise of recommending people don't buy
| other author's books, however he will recommend exactly this in the case
| of "21 Lessons of Merlyn" by Douglas Monro, and "Keltic Lore and Druidic
| Ritual" by Rhiannon Ryall. Since Rhiannon Ryall is a personal friend I
| questioned Philip about it last year and they are definitely books he
| doesn't recommend to people.
|
| Despite not having read much of the book myself, it has been discussed
| many times on many mailing lists I am a member of, as well as on the ng,
| and I have gleaned quite a lot regarding the content. Believe me, it
| doesn't compare to OBOD AT ALL.
|
| Can I ask how far into the OBOD course you are, Shane?
|
| Ceit.
|
| Shane wrote:
|
| > That's the point, friend.
| > Many of the concepts in the book are taught by OBOD!!!!!
| >
|
Ruiseart agus Ceit
Ruiseart agus Ceit
Well, very basically, the book is based on a fictitious book, the Book
of Fferyllt. Some great claims are made. The most notable being that
women suck the power out of men during sex....I might point out here
that Mr. Munro had a penchant for teenage boys, [that in itself is
enough to stop me reading it as pedophiles are WAY down on my list of
"I'll give you my money"]. Also, I believe that Mr. Munro quite freely
admits it is fiction. Can anyone collaborate that for me, or is my
memory playing up?
Ceit.
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Elaine Stutt
Ruiseart agus Ceit (ra...@networx.net.au) writes:
> "I'll give you my money"]. Also, I believe that Mr. Munro quite freely
> admits it is fiction. Can anyone collaborate that for me, or is my
> memory playing up?
> Ceit.
I read the intro to his second book and he acknowledges that most people
think that the Book of Ph. is fictional, then he gets vague.
> Four Heritage wrote:
>> Excuse my ignorance, but would yu please explain to me why the book is thought
>> to be a waste of money and why it is thought to be fictitious in nature. I'm
>> new and curious so please explain in full.
Try some websites: www.uoguelph.ca/~bmyers/pagan/21Lessons.html
( which is the same article that OBOD has. )
http://members.aol.com/lisala/faqs/pheryllt.html
www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/Library/whenIsACeltNotACelt.htm
The last goes into three pop-Celtic books.
Four Heritage
factual ? (Authors)
Ruiseart agus Ceit
hard read, as is J. Markale. John and Caitlin Matthews are both very
good. See the "Pagan Book" thread currently on the group as there are
some good opinions being put forward there.
Ceit.
Four Heritage wrote:
>
> Thankyou for the information. Now may I ask who would you recommend as being
> factual ? (Authors)
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