But not from a sinner liketh thee? :-).
Yes, yesatrons, and it is obvious, and then thou didst telleth me in thy
selected bible verse not to judgeth!
Thank you for the healthy dose of hypocrisy.
Thank you very much. :-).
> But don't mix up judging someone
> with applying Bible truth to someone.
>
> The world's definition of "judge" is very vague. One such meaning was
> "to form an opinion", while thinking you are better than him.
"Nice 'Christian sinner' language." Hahahahahaha...
>
> What Jesus meant was similar. Don't think you are better than the
> other person. Correct your weaknesses first, then you can help the
> other person by showing him Bible truths. Quoting Scripture to someone
> is NOT judging them.
Yeah, sure! :-).
You are providing a bunch of laughs today, James.
>> My motives are not your motives, Bubba, that is why I am free and free
>> indeed.
>
> My motives come right out of the Bible. Where do yours come from?
God Himself. Your motives come right out of your sinful state, James;
that is what sin operates.
From my signature:
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
I would be fool to write that if it were not true, wouldn't I?
Also, "The way of truth is the testimony of life." Hey, that was
written down quite a while ago! The Lord Jesus is the way of truth, the
testimony of life. Which is saying, His voice is the way of truth, the
testimony of life, not the bible.
He is the way, the truth and the life, not the bible is the way, the
truth, and the life. He is a Person, as you know, not ink.
And this one: "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."
Which is saying, His voice; a Person, not a religion, or a doctrine, or
an ideology, or a sinner.
You don't hear Him, though, and the reason you don't is laid out a
several places in this reply. That is why you can't answer the
questions, and why none of the others can too!
>>>> Sinner James bullshit wrote:
>>>>> Since I promote only the Bible, you have just called it "nonsense".
>>>>
>>>> It's sinner James' bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> What do I call it bullshit? Because it is bullshit, you wanker. All
>>>> you promote is you.
>>>
>>> (:>) If I wanted to promote myself instead of the Bible, it would be
>>> as clear as glass.
>>
>> It is.
>>
>> And it is...
>
> Then you are judging me as promoting myself.
Of course you do! You are promoting your own righteousness and your
sinner religion.
> Can one who promotes
> themselves and also admits they are a sinner,
Here we go with the "promoting" and it ain't God! :-).
Bullshit. You don't admit yourself to being a sinner by God's standards.
You are always right in your own eyes and seeking to justify yourself
every which way to Sunday! :-).
There is a massive discrepancy between you people, all you sinner
religionists,' and the admission of being a sinner and what God calls
the admission of being a sinner.
To you it is just a theological fact, but to God it is the point of
losing your life.
Are you in your sinner state in abhorrence of yourself and in dust and
ashes? You can't be resurrected if you don't die, Buddy!
Isn't your bible clear enough for you?
Luke 9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever
will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
You could read that verse a million times and you will still not know
what that means, unless of course, the Lord personally starts speaking
to you. And He isn't going to bother with someone who is only
interested in promoting themself.
> really be promoting
> oneself? If anything, they are demoting themselves.
You demoting yourself??? Hahahahahahahahahahaha...
Oh, glorious self-demoting sinner! :-).
That is delusion, clear and simple!
>> James wrote:
>>> Since I promote only the Bible, you have just called it "nonsense".
>>
>> ...bullshit James' nonsense.
>>
>> You are not bible meaning, Your Holiness Sinnerness.
>
> I challenge you to prove I am "not bible meaning". And yes, I am a
> sinner as the Bible says.
As above, oh noble whore! :-).
All men are not sinners; some have been crucified, resurrected and
raised up in Christ Jesus; in Him is no whoredom - sin.
2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Bypass time or dodge time? :-).
>>>> If you will not even see that what hope have you got?
>>>
>>> Oh, but I do see from the Bible. 1 John 2:17,
>>>
>>> -- Living Bible
>>> 1 John 2:17 And this world is fading away, and these evil, forbidden
>>> things will go with it, but whoever keeps doing the will of God will
>>> live forever.
>>
>> But you don't, you sin, you exchange His truth for your lie. Is the
>> bible a provider of the path of sin, James? Well?
>
> And you don't sin?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I don't!!! I do not
exchange the truth for a lie, I don't not exchange my Lord for a bowl of
soup/the world. The world can go get fucked! I am no longer a whore.
Why? I...love...my...God!!! You don't whore against the One you love!!!
I know, the impossible! But with my God all things are possible, but
you are happy to stay in sinner James' impossible.
Well, so be it.
How is it that God can create a universe but He is unable to cleanse a
man totally of all unrighteousness??? Huh???
I'll tell you why He doesn't cleanse: self-pride, self-righteousness,
stubbornness, wilfulness, disobedience, defiance, compromise, love for
this world, but most of all, resisting the Holy Spirit and refusing to
be humbled.
That cannot be forgiven.
Fortunately, Job saw the light.
You have got two choices in this life, curse God and die in your sin or
abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
That's it.
> You have full control over your body and mind?
Mind, the seat of the faculty of reason - yes. If you are born again you
have the mind of Christ (1 Cor 2:16)
However, I don't have control over my physical body (I have to eat,
sleep, go to the toilet, suffer injury, aging etc), like Paul, but my
spirit (heart, soul, and mind) dwells with the Lord in righteousness,
like with Paul. All the glory for that goes to Him for the work that He
did in me (all I had to do was do as I was told), for He is the Saviour,
He is the Deliverer, as with Paul.
How about this? Did the perfect Lord Jesus Christ have to pee, sleep,
and eat etc? Then Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the
evil which I would not, that I do.
The evil is the physical body, as it is death; it goes down to the
grave. The Lord Jesus grew as a child but he too was locked into a
decaying physical body as we are.
But...Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
And so...
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law
of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in
my members.
Where is it? In his heart, soul, and mind? No!
The physical body of death (captivity) wars against Paul as does it war
against us all. But that does not mean Paul succumbed to it in his
heart, soul, and mind. On the contrary, he was more than a conqueror
(Romans 8:37)
Is this the testimony of your "constant sinner" theology...
2Co 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more;
in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more
frequent, in deaths oft.
2Co 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
2Co 11:25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I
suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
2Co 11:26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of
robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in
perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea,
in perils among false brethren;
2Co 11:27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger
and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
2Co 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon
me daily, the care of all the churches.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body
of this death? Physically dead body of my captivity, but alive in Christ.
So, and but...
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the
mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh (members,
physical body of death, Romans 7:19) the law of sin.
Sin and death.
And so...
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in
Christ Jesus, WHO WALK NOT after the flesh (after the rudimentary things
of this world), but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath MADE ME
FREE from the law of sin and death.
You can hear if you wanted to; that's the problem, you don't want to.
> Then
> the only other human person to do that was Jesus. Are you sure you
> want to contradict the Bible and profess SINLESSNESS?
You and your bible interpretations do not represent God, Buddy, anymore
than the Catholics or the Prostestants.
I confess the Lord Jesus as Lord and what He has done in me, and so did
Paul, my kin.
A new creature IS a new creature, not an old one still in his sin with a
bible trying to make himself righteous - an abomination.
You are trying to make your sin-state righteousness! Just what you are
trying to do with 1 John 1:8.
Yes, you have earned it, "Good luck with that!" :-).
>>>>>>>>>> "That is what sin does, Sinner James, it calls God a liar." But you are
>>>>>>>>>> the liar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I make it a point not to lie. If nothing else, anyone who reads my
>>>>>>>>> posts will know that I speak the truth as I know it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You walk around thinking you are better than them,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really don't know JW's. They go by the Bible which says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in
>>>>>>> lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.
>>>>>>> 4. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also
>>>>>>> for the interests of others." (Php 2:3,4; NKJV)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An ideology does not a life make, my friend.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does when one follows the Bible. (2 Tim 3:16)
>>>>
>>>> You don't, you sin.
>>>
>>>
>>> As all people do:
>>>
>>> 1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
>>> the truth is not us." (KJV)
>>
>> Where is verse 9?
>
> Right where it should be. In the Bible.
But not in your life.
All.
>> Some go on, a very few, go on to be cleansed of all unrighteousness, and
>> are delivered from being servants of sin...
>>
>> John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
>> Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
>
> That is so true. Since we all are imperfect, we are slaves to sin. But
> Jesus ransom has removed the guarantee of death caused by sin. We now
> have the opportunity to live forever under paradise conditions.
But don't you commit sin and so are a servant of sin? Or is the Lord
mistaken?
"Under paradise conditions?" And what are they?
Thou shalt not...?
There are no laws, or rules, or regulations, or ideology, or doctrine,
or religions in paradise. They are not required.
>> You think that if you agree with God that you are a sinner that that is
>> the end of the matter. How nice for you! Yay!
>
> Jesus said it is only ONE time it is REALLY the end of the matter.
>
> (Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.
It was for His disciples as it says (Matthew 24:3), but either way, you
have a problem. Endures what? Walking in your sin against Him and
hoping you won't receive the wages of sin?
How can you have the full assurance of salvation? Of course, you don't
know. Your god must have to keep you hanging in some kind of religious
limbo.
>> Well, it is not the end of the matter...
>
> See above.
>
>>
>> 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and
>> declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
>>
>> 1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in
>> darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
>>
>> How can a sinner ever live in the truth?
>
> Obviously the apostle John meant by "walk in darkness" a person who
> willfully sins all the time.
All sinners walk in wilful all the time.
> He WALKS in it. For example, a male who
> all the time sleeps with every female he can get, ignoring Jesus
> command about fornication.
How can a sinner like you prevent adultery in your heart?
You need to be crucified.
> The apostle John clearly KNEW that all people sin.
>
> 1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
> the truth is not in us." (KJV)
>
> Notice John said if "we" say we have no sin, thus John included
> himself in that Bible truth.
He is not speaking about himself, unless you want to call him a
"constant sinner," as well?
It is not going to wash! Besides, 1 John 2:1.
Verse plucking is not going to save you, James! Bible verses can't
justify you or save anyone.
You are going to stand before God and say, "All men are sinners." And
God is going to say to you, and I hope He doesn't have to, "Was I not
capable, James, or were you unwilling?"
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
>>>> An ideology cannot save you and it hasn't.
>>>
>>> An ideology of God's words can.(1 John 2:17)
>>
>> No, it can't.
>>
>> God is not an ideology, Buddy.
>
> I never said He was. Yet, God had written:
A sinner's ideology of God's words cannot save.
> (1 John 2:17) Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its
> desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever.
You don't, you do your own will in your sin.
If you are still in your sin, you are enduring in that to the end;
that's all.
> So my question to you is: WHERE CAN WE FIND THE WILL OF GOD??? (so
> that we can remain forever)
Ahhh, yes, this is ChristRose's big right-sounding drum! :-).
Tell me this, how would the Pharisees answer that question?
You tell me.
And how then did they miss their Messiah who was right in front of
them???!!!
After all, they were drowning in the scriptures and had far more
understanding of God than the average "Christian" today. Certainly,
Paul was a demonstration of that. In fact, all the disciples and without
a New Testament to try and find justification in there verse-plucking
sinful state! :-).
Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath
sent, him ye believe not.
Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal
life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
There is no life in Scripture; life is only in God Himself.
You people never want to hear this...
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."
"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
...but if you don't hear it here, you are going to know it there.
Here we go again with James' bullshit mode. If I don't follow your
interpretation of the bible I calling God evil! :-).
A sinner calls God a liar, James. Evil.
You can't walk in bible truth and walk in sin, and to say that you can?
Evil, very evil.
>>>> Then you are simply doing YOUR OWN THING and trying to use God to do it!!!
>>>
>>> Don't ever try to become a psychologist!
>>
>> You are simply doing your own thing in your sin and trying to use God.
>> You are denying the heinous whoredom nature of sin and trying to escape
>> the wages of it with your convenient bible interpretations and verse
>> plucking.
>>
>> It isn't going to work.
>
> Not according to what God inspired His penman to write here:
>
> - King James
> 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
> profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
> in righteousness:
So that?
Verse 17.
Do you ever stop from having your way and just listen?
Besides you don't accept reproof, correction, and instruction in truth.
You just think you are okay in your sin state to dish it out.
You are. You are trying to bring me down to your level.
It is impossible, James.
You don't know yourself or the nature of sin in you. And since you
don't accept reproof, correction, and instruction in truth, that is
where you will say.
Isn't it ironic that you are trying to bring me down to where you are
and all the while the Lord is seeking to raise you up to where He is.
Ironic, and tragic, because you are always resisting the truth in your
own name...with bible references of sinner preferences. :-). Funny, and
tragic.
> but rather just share Bible truths
> from our Grand and Wise Creator. I didn't know any of these things
> until it was shown to me.
Well, there is more, much more to learn.
>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> I can turn my back on God and whore with the world,
>>>> exchange the truth for a lie, call God a liar by my deeds, occasionally
>>>> or constantly, depending on my will on the day because my bible tells me
>>>> I can.
>>
>> James wrote:
>>> Again, don't ever try to become a psychologist!
>>
>> It is what you do.
>>
>> It is amazing watching you try to dodge the truth!
>>
>> What do you think a sinner is, James, a dedicated bible reader and
>> worshiper of God?
>
> Yes, all such ones are ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.But they don't "walk in
> darkness". They try real hard to walk in light.
:-). Well, there is an absolute humdinger!
Mind-boggling contradiction!
The problem is you haven't surrendered your life, so you can't see God
or hear God. All you have is your bible, guided by your own thoughts,
and will, and desire.
That is why you seek to justify yourself in plucking scriptures out of
context. What is the end result? You continue to walk in your whoredom
(sin).
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Yay! What a religion! Yay!
>>>>
>>>> I can go fuck myself stupid with the world and then I can come back to
>>>> the Lord God when it suits and screw Him up the ass! Yay!"
>>>
>>> I think you are losing it. Looks like I better show you what God wants
>>> you to know: Eph 4:29,
>>>
>>> "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only
>>> what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that
>>> it may benefit those who listen." (NIV)
>>
>> Oh, so thou judgest me in thy sinful state? :-). Thanks! :-).
>>
>> You filthy sinner morals are not the measure by which God judges, Your
>> Supreme Hypocrite Holiness. I am free of you and don't live by your
>> fallen religious moral judgements, Sinner.
>>
>> This is you, in the Spirit of Truth...
>>
>> "I can go fuck myself stupid with the world and then I can come back to
>> the Lord God when it suits and screw Him up the ass! Yay!"
>>
>> "I can turn my back on God and whore with the world, exchange the truth
>> for a lie, call God a liar by my deeds, occasionally or constantly,
>> depending on my will on the day because my bible tells me I can."
>>
>> Yay, JW religion, yay! "All men are sinners so I can set myself on high
>> and demand people should follow my religion!" :-).
>>
>> And make them twice the sons of hell!
>
> Maybe some day you will follow Bible truths. I can only hope and pray
> for you.
You are dodging the truth and will not be reproved, corrected, and
instructed.
You need a lot of hardcore truth, Buddy.
This is exactly you, without any consideration for your sinner,
self-righteous, filthy-rag, morals of worldly sewer standards of
etiquette [vomit]...
"I can go fuck myself stupid with the world and then I can come back to
the Lord God when it suits and screw Him up the ass! Yay!"
"I can turn my back on God and whore with the world, exchange the truth
for a lie, call God a liar by my deeds, occasionally or constantly,
depending on my will on the day because my bible tells me I can."
Yay, sinner hypocrite whore religion, yay!
"Yes, all men are sinners so I have justification for my whoredom."
Yay!!!
"Was I not capable, James, or were you unwilling?"
Which you oppose and/or ignore at will.
> you also oppose
> the Bible a lot, so
> 1 John 2:17 cannot be followed that way.
I do not oppose the bible at any level or in any way; I am a living
testimony of it, and so was Paul, so are all the sons of God. You just
do not see the Kingdom of God because you are still of the kingdom of
this world in your sin.
You are wrong, just as your sin is wrong. You (and them) think your sin
has no ability to cloud your judgement in any way because you have built
your house on the sand of your own understanding.
A lot goes into a house in a lifetime, and few there are that will allow
it to be razed to the ground.