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Wide Eyed in Wonder

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Nov 14, 2008, 8:41:01 AM11/14/08
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Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahmadi-nezhads-new-task-presenting-mehdi-to-the-wo.shtml

In this article, we have evidence that the Iranian leader is close to
saying Obama is the return of their savior...the 12th Imam. The
article confirms that the letter of praise sent to Obama for winning
the election (the 1st such US letter since the birth of their
country's government) was approved by Ayatollah Ali Khameneh’i. The
article says that Khameneh'i recently said relations with the US may
not remain cut, in a speech to the Zoroastrians (the very fact that he
spoke to that crowd is worthy of another post...but I digress). The
article says...

"...Mr. Obama must realize the important significance of the decision,
meaning that the man who has sent him the message is not Mr. Ahmadi
Nezhad, but the leader, and therefore his reply must be addressed to
the right man: Ayatollah Ali Khameneh’i, the man who in the Iranian
system, takes all major domestic and foreign decisions."

Then, it says...

"Meantime, and while waiting for Mr. Obama taking the helms in
Washington, Mr. Ahmadi Nezhad has called on Iranian experts in economy
to 'draw plans for solving the world’s financial and economic crisis
based on Iranian indigenous methods' and urged Iranians to 'present
the Imam of the Rightfulness to the international public'."

First, he says to prepare plans for solving the WORLD'S financial and
economic crisis. Then, he ways such plans are meant to get ready for
the rule of the Imam...while waiting for Obama to take office.

The aricle concludes with...

"According to Shi’a Muslims, Mehdi, their twelfth imam who went into
hiding in a well in the city of Samarra, in Iraq, when he was eight
year-old some 1.400 years ago, would reemerge when the world is
saturated with sin, corruption and injustice. This is why Mr. Ahmadi
Nezhad, in true believer in the powers and mission of imam Mehdi, has,
with all members of his cabinet, pledged to him in writing to prepare
his reappearance, due to take place from a well in Jamkaran, near the
holy city of Qom, 150 kilometres south of the Capital and the cradle
of militant Shi’ism.

"His relationship with the Waiting imam is such that according to his
close aides, when he went for the first time to New York to address
the United Nations General Assembly three years ago, the hided messiah
visited him while delivering his speech.

'My new duty, our new duty is to present the imam of rightfulness to
the world, to the international community. We must try hard to make
the international public opinion to know and to listen to the message
of Mehdi', Mr. Ahmadi Nezhad insisted."

Gee...the Iranian leader just happen to meet the Hidden Imam at the UN
General Assembly in the USA. Does anyone know where Obama was on that
day?

Kenneth Clifton
--
www.2008jesus.com


President Soetoro

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Nov 14, 2008, 8:51:29 AM11/14/08
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On Nov 14, 7:41 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....
>
> http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahm...

All praise obama, the new "messiah"... the 12th iman!

Zadok

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Nov 14, 2008, 8:54:46 AM11/14/08
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <religionist nutcase> wrote in message ...

If any of you needed further evidence that Kenny Clifton has gone fucking
nuts, read this crap, he is telling us he believes.


>"His relationship with the Waiting imam is such that according to his
>close aides, when he went for the first time to New York to address
>the United Nations General Assembly three years ago, the hided messiah
>visited him while delivering his speech.

GOT THAT - The hidden messiah visited him WHILE DELIVERING HIS SPEECH.

And Santa Claus visited Kenny while he was typing that crap.

Smile.


Cary Kittrell

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:05:42 AM11/14/08
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In article <fa48e858-d41e-4fd1...@r36g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kan...@hotmail.com> writes:
> Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....
>
> http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahmadi-ne=

> zhads-new-task-presenting-mehdi-to-the-wo.shtml
>
> In this article, we have evidence that the Iranian leader is close to
> saying Obama is the return of their savior...the 12th Imam.

And of course reading the article reveals that it says
no such thing.

Imagine my surprise.

The
> article confirms that the letter of praise sent to Obama for winning
> the election (the 1st such US letter since the birth of their

> country's government) was approved by Ayatollah Ali Khameneh=92i. The


> article says that Khameneh'i recently said relations with the US may
> not remain cut, in a speech to the Zoroastrians (the very fact that he
> spoke to that crowd is worthy of another post...but I digress). The
> article says...
>
> "...Mr. Obama must realize the important significance of the decision,
> meaning that the man who has sent him the message is not Mr. Ahmadi
> Nezhad, but the leader, and therefore his reply must be addressed to

> the right man: Ayatollah Ali Khameneh=92i, the man who in the Iranian


> system, takes all major domestic and foreign decisions."
>
> Then, it says...
>
> "Meantime, and while waiting for Mr. Obama taking the helms in
> Washington, Mr. Ahmadi Nezhad has called on Iranian experts in economy

> to 'draw plans for solving the world=92s financial and economic crisis


> based on Iranian indigenous methods' and urged Iranians to 'present
> the Imam of the Rightfulness to the international public'."
>
> First, he says to prepare plans for solving the WORLD'S financial and
> economic crisis. Then, he ways such plans are meant to get ready for
> the rule of the Imam...while waiting for Obama to take office.
>
> The aricle concludes with...
>

> "According to Shi=92a Muslims, Mehdi, their twelfth imam who went into


> hiding in a well in the city of Samarra, in Iraq, when he was eight
> year-old some 1.400 years ago, would reemerge when the world is
> saturated with sin, corruption and injustice. This is why Mr. Ahmadi
> Nezhad, in true believer in the powers and mission of imam Mehdi, has,
> with all members of his cabinet, pledged to him in writing to prepare
> his reappearance, due to take place from a well in Jamkaran, near the
> holy city of Qom, 150 kilometres south of the Capital and the cradle

> of militant Shi=92ism.

Cary Kittrell

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:18:19 AM11/14/08
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Not possible: Santa Claus must be a "socialist", going around
giving away stuff like that.

Kenny'd never let him in the house.

-- cary


>
> Smile.
>
>
>
>
>
>


jayp...@gmail.com

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:22:22 AM11/14/08
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On 14 nov, 14:41, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....

Nope. Hence this further proof that you completely lost it.
GET FUCKING HELP, MORON!


>
> http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahm...

And since when do you care about what iran-press has to say?

Jeff George

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:28:57 AM11/14/08
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"Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
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Wouldn't the 'hided' messiah be the same as Jeezus? So Jeezus and the imam
are the same person.


President Soetoro

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:31:43 AM11/14/08
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On Nov 14, 7:41 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....
>
> http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahm...

No wonder the "messiah" doesn't have a birth certificate.... he's been
in hiding for the last 1,400 years.

Cary Kittrell

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:30:08 AM11/14/08
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That was a very strange opinion piece, wasn't it? All
over the map.

-- cary


Liberal Whisperer

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:40:50 AM11/14/08
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On Nov 14, 7:41 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....
>
> http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahm...
Hawaii getting his birth records sealed?? Harvard getting his college
records sealed? His former law firm getting his billing records
sealed?

> Kenneth Clifton
> --www.2008jesus.com

Big friggin' deal. He's too late. The other most prominent muslim
Amurika hating racist the Rev. Louis "Calypso Louie" Farrakhan has
already announced that the POTUS elect is the Messiah. The other kook
is a little slow out the gate. KOOMBAYAHH !!!

Liberal Whisperer

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:42:32 AM11/14/08
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On Nov 14, 8:31 am, President Soetoro
> in hiding for the last 1,400 years.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ROTFFLMMFAO !! Good one you friggin' adjitator !!

Carl

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Nov 14, 2008, 11:26:12 AM11/14/08
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So what the hell does all this nonsense mean to you? Are you implying
something that's going over my head? So if the Iranians think that Obama is
the new coming of Jesus, Mohammed, or Jehovah, what do we care? If the
"Iranian experts in economy" successfully "draw plans for solving the world’s
financial and economic crisis", well good for them. Maybe they should draw
plans for fixing their own country's economic problems first, before they
take on the entire world, but if they want to start at the top, I say go for
it.

If, as I'm inferring, you believe that Obama is that "sleeper cell" for the
fundamentalist Muslims, then he's already fucked up big time by choosing a
Jew as his chief of staff and (likely) a liberal woman as his secretary of
state. I'd say he'll have huge problems implementing some fundamentalist
religious agenda with that particular combination, wouldn't you?


Cary Kittrell

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Nov 14, 2008, 11:53:00 AM11/14/08
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"Carl" <crot...@NOSPAMoptonline.net>

Insha'Allah...


-- cary

Zadok

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Mr smiley happy sock puppet

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Nov 14, 2008, 2:40:41 PM11/14/08
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One problem with this bit of racist, bigoted nonsense--how Christian
of you--is that to be an Iman, you have to be Muslim.

Tom

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"Mr smiley happy sock puppet" <goof...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> One problem with this bit of racist, bigoted nonsense--how Christian
> of you--is that to be an Iman, you have to be Muslim.

Uh, Iman is David Bowie's wife.
Imam is some mythical BS Muhammedin concept.
Anyway, the 12th Imam is supposed to return up out of the well from
whence he came, not Chicago. That is why the Ayatollah Amahdinejad has built
a blue tiled highway leading from the well to the great mosque where he is
to announce his mahdiness. Imamness, whatever..... The world is FUBAR.

Lee

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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahmadi-nezhads-new-task-presenting-mehdi-to-the-wo.shtml

Then, it says...

The aricle concludes with...

Kenneth Clifton
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www.2008jesus.com

As long as Ahmadinejad is busy trying to make nukes and playing with IBM's
he is not really harming anyone else bless him.

I

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Nov 14, 2008, 6:30:25 PM11/14/08
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"Tom" <To...@home.con> wrote:


> FUBAR.


Tom posts my private details over and over again in "true
Christian Love":

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Tom is a fundamentalist hypocrite.

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enjoying the golden glow of self-justification that results. ... You know
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Inquisition did largely miss the point of 'Love Thy Neighbour', didn't they?
Wasn't burning heretics 'worse' than being tolerant towards them? ...

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The_Carpathia

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Nov 14, 2008, 9:32:58 PM11/14/08
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On Nov 14, 11:26 am, "Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
> Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
>
>
>
> > Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....
>
> >http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahm...

You are the closest to actually responding to the post that I gave.
So, I will reply to you...assuming you meant what you said. I forward
you to the QUOTES from the Iranian President and timetable structured
around Obama's election. They say it all, which is why ALL REPLIES to
my post had to cut them out...too damaging. READ what they are saying
about Obama. He is a soul mate for them...indeed, they are following
his lead. He is the FIRST President in their government's history to
get a letter of praise for winning the election.

As for the Jewish Chief of Staff...the announcement tonight is that an
IRANIAN (I kid you not) born woman will be his Senior Advisor.

Kenneth Clifton
--
www.2008jesus.com

Bob LeChevalier

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Nov 14, 2008, 10:33:45 PM11/14/08
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Wide Eyed in Wonder <kan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Check this out, I cannot fake something like this....
>
>http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2009/november-2009/ahmadi-nezhads-new-task-presenting-mehdi-to-the-wo.shtml
>
>In this article, we have evidence that the Iranian leader is close to
>saying Obama is the return of their savior...the 12th Imam.

Not in the least, clueless.

>The article confirms that the letter of praise sent to Obama for winning
>the election (the 1st such US letter since the birth of their
>country's government) was approved by Ayatollah Ali Khameneh’i. The
>article says that Khameneh'i recently said relations with the US may
>not remain cut, in a speech to the Zoroastrians (the very fact that he
>spoke to that crowd is worthy of another post...but I digress). The
>article says...
>
>"...Mr. Obama must realize the important significance of the decision,
>meaning that the man who has sent him the message is not Mr. Ahmadi
>Nezhad, but the leader, and therefore his reply must be addressed to
>the right man: Ayatollah Ali Khameneh’i, the man who in the Iranian
>system, takes all major domestic and foreign decisions."

Yes. The Iranians are willing to consider another path besides the
hostility of the last 30 years. All from the gut merely saying that
he is willing to talk to them.

Nixon found the same thing with China.

>Then, it says...
>
>"Meantime, and while waiting for Mr. Obama taking the helms in
>Washington, Mr. Ahmadi Nezhad has called on Iranian experts in economy
>to 'draw plans for solving the world’s financial and economic crisis
>based on Iranian indigenous methods' and urged Iranians to 'present
>the Imam of the Rightfulness to the international public'."

The article then goes on to say
<One wonder why Mr. Dominique Straus-Kahn, the French president of the
< International Monetary Fund or other world leaders who desperately
< are looking for solutions to the unprecedented international crisis
< do not call on Mr. Ahmadi Nezhad and get advice from the man who’s
< suicidal economic and foreign policies have taken his country to the
< edge of total disaster.

In other words the person who wrote the article thinks Nezhad is a
nutcase - probably almost as nutty as you.

>This is why Mr. Ahmadi
>Nezhad, in true believer in the powers and mission of imam Mehdi, has,
>with all members of his cabinet, pledged to him in writing to prepare
>his reappearance, due to take place from a well in Jamkaran, near the
>holy city of Qom, 150 kilometres south of the Capital and the cradle
>of militant Shi’ism.

which is a long way from Chicago and Washington DC.

>"His relationship with the Waiting imam is such that according to his
>close aides, when he went for the first time to New York to address
>the United Nations General Assembly three years ago, the hided messiah
>visited him while delivering his speech.

>Gee...the Iranian leader just happen to meet the Hidden Imam at the UN


>General Assembly in the USA.

No. The Hidden Imam visited him *while he was delivering his speech*.

>Does anyone know where Obama was on that day?

Not on the UN General Assembly speakers rostrum. And Obama wasn't
hidden.

lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org

jayp...@gmail.com

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Nov 15, 2008, 3:39:31 AM11/15/08
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Since when do you care about what the Iran press has to say about the
US?

 He is a soul mate for them...indeed, they are following
> his lead.  He is the FIRST President in their government's history to
> get a letter of praise for winning the election.

Yeah, isn't it a shame that you finally get a president that might
find a solution for this situation.
Was is sooooo much better, isn't it?


>
> As for the Jewish Chief of Staff...the announcement tonight is that an
> IRANIAN (I kid you not) born woman will be his Senior Advisor.

And? Is it a crime to be bron in Iran? If I remember well, the Shah
was supported by your country...
And, again, Isn't his chief of staff Jewish, yes or no?

The_Carpathia

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Nov 15, 2008, 6:39:55 AM11/15/08
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Gee...terrorist country and terrorist threats. Solution? Surrender.
Then, I guess we have got the right guy. Next stop, Islamic world
rule (their goal).

Kenneth Clifton
--
www.2008jesus.com

WBY...@ireland.com

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Nov 15, 2008, 10:14:26 AM11/15/08
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Nope - he's a Communist:

You must think Santa Clause weird
He has long hair and a beard
Giving his presents for free
Why do police guys mess with peace guys?

Let's get Santa Clause 'cause;
Santa Clause has a red suit
He's a communist
And a beard, and long hair
Must be a pacifist
What's in the pipe that he's smoking?

Mister Clause sneaks in your home at night.
He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
Why do police guys beat on peace guys?
(Arlo Guthrie)

WB Yeats

Tom

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<WBY...@Ireland.com> wrote in message
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>>Not possible: Santa Claus must be a "socialist", going around
>>giving away stuff like that.
>
> Nope - he's a Communist:
>
> You must think Santa Clause weird
> He has long hair and a beard
> Giving his presents for free
> Why do police guys mess with peace guys?
>
> Let's get Santa Clause 'cause;
> Santa Clause has a red suit
> He's a communist
> And a beard, and long hair
> Must be a pacifist
> What's in the pipe that he's smoking?
>
> Mister Clause sneaks in your home at night.
> He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
> Why do police guys beat on peace guys?
> (Arlo Guthrie)
>
> WB Yeats

I, don't want a pickle....... :-)

SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim

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Nov 15, 2008, 11:30:06 AM11/15/08
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more dumbass nazi neocon horseshit

I

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Report Tom's abuse to ab...@motzarella.org

jayp...@gmail.com

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Nov 16, 2008, 12:46:42 PM11/16/08
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As opposed to this war in Iraq?
Wow... what an achievement! The most powerful country in the world
attacks the wrong country, for no reason, and can't even defeat its
third-wold army.
Meanwhile, this country has alienated all his allies, and contributed
to the multiplication of terrorists while having no foreseeable
solution.
Way to go, "christian" boy!!!!

Say, have you ever wondered what triggered these people to hate you
and your country? As long as you refuse to address this fundamental
question, you won't be even close to a solution in the Middle-East.
Hint: it's a little more complex than the sound bites your moronic
president has used.

Here's a question for you: how do fight against an enemy who isn't
afraid to die? How do you threaten him/her?
After how much loss do you start considering that maybe you're using
the wrong approach?
Why aren't you in Iraq Kenny if you support war so much?


> Then, I guess we have got the right guy.  Next stop, Islamic world
> rule (their goal).

What do you suggest, then?
You call yourself a christian, yet you support a "solution" that can
only lead to more destruction and more killing of innocents.
You're the lowest form of life on earth, Kenny.
And I don't see a difference between you and the morons who crashed
two airplanes in the WTC.

Carl

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Nov 16, 2008, 1:46:10 PM11/16/08
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This is a typical misrepresentation of the facts, a trick people use to
redirect the argument and the issues. The "most powerful country in the
world" actually easily defeated Iraq's "third world army" in two weeks. What
we are having trouble with is the occupation for the purpose of its
reconstruction, none of which is related to anyone's "army", but diverse
groups of independent militia. That is a whole lot different than saying the
U.S. couldn't defeat the country's army. Had we struck and left after the
initial two weeks, there would be no question as to who had "won" and in how
long.

>
> Meanwhile, this country has alienated all his allies, and contributed
> to the multiplication of terrorists while having no foreseeable
> solution.
> Way to go, "christian" boy!!!!
>
You get no argument here. Iraq was a huge mistake. We thank Bush and his
cabinet for that bit of misdirection.

>
> Say, have you ever wondered what triggered these people to hate you
> and your country? As long as you refuse to address this fundamental
> question, you won't be even close to a solution in the Middle-East.
> Hint: it's a little more complex than the sound bites your moronic
> president has used.
>
My guess is you have wondered but I'm inferring that your ideas are the
typical barking up the wrong tree.

>
> Here's a question for you: how do fight against an enemy who isn't
> afraid to die? How do you threaten him/her?
> After how much loss do you start considering that maybe you're using
> the wrong approach?
>
These are valid questions. What answers do you have?

>
> Why aren't you in Iraq Kenny if you support war so much?
>
This is another false argument. I believe in having police to fight crime,
but I don't join the police force, nor do I want my son to.
>
[snipped for clarity - I had nothing to say about his part]


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