2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
outside the lab rantings.
3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
They are smart?My foot!
YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
For most of the important dicussion,dishonest crooks and liars could
not and have not shown my fallacies,or discount my evidence.
While many of them are calling for evidences of God,and after I
provided for them,they have more excuses than ever.
Since I am teachings kids,this method would be better to enlighten
them:
*****
In essence,"I know you can prove God's existence,not just by mere
thesis,or words,but even goes to the extent of real live prove,but we
are just a bunch of obnoxious nuts,that is all.Let me prove to you we
are idiots--have you read we used ridicules,gotten mad,insults,accused
you of being liar,any-o-how shoot,use vulgarities?)
(If you care to study,we never attack your words,or discount your
posts,but just make mere assertions,cheap shots.We make unreasonable
demands,but we are most shock that you actually reveal a real live
experimentation,an invincible proofs where those who partake would be
praising God all day long-I mean those honest folks only).
YOu don't dictate beliefs for anyone but your sorry self, kid. Get used to
that fact.
> 2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
> allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
> outside the lab rantings.
>
> 3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
> you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
>
> 4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
> experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
> a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
> world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
> neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
>
> They are smart?My foot!
>
> YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
That's because YOU are the cranked up-asshole who made the assertions, so
get up off your delusional ass and PROVE IT to the standards of the real
world, not your pitiful fantasy. Not that I expect it will happen, but if
you showed up at my front door and launched into your psychotic babbling,
I'd just call HPD and let them know there's a loose lunatic in the
neighborhood.
I don't tolerate idiot preachers if they invade my turf.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
It isn't even that this is the worst problem you face. In TRUTH,
physical reality simply disputes all the fantasy stories of "creation"
and everything the bible claims about history, science, biology,
astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
single observational measurement in existence. If your god does
exist, why would it be so completely WRONG about every single thing it
supposedly created?
---
a.a. #2273
>1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
>real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
>of God.
No one has ever set up any experiments that show a positive result for
the test of whether God exists. No one. Your claim is false.
>2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
>allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
>outside the lab rantings.
You are lying.
>3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
>you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
You are lying.
>4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
>experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
>a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
>world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
>neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
I won't believe you because you have demonstrated dishonesty to us.
Since you have a reputation as a liar here, there is no reason that you
should expect anyone to believe any of your claims without evidence. You
have no evidence. You said so yourself.
>They are smart?My foot!
>
>YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
And you have none.
>For most of the important dicussion,dishonest crooks and liars could
>not and have not shown my fallacies,or discount my evidence.
>
>While many of them are calling for evidences of God,and after I
>provided for them,they have more excuses than ever.
>
>Since I am teachings kids,this method would be better to enlighten
>them:
>*****
>In essence,"I know you can prove God's existence,not just by mere
>thesis,or words,but even goes to the extent of real live prove,but we
>are just a bunch of obnoxious nuts,that is all.Let me prove to you we
>are idiots--have you read we used ridicules,gotten mad,insults,accused
>you of being liar,any-o-how shoot,use vulgarities?)
>
>(If you care to study,we never attack your words,or discount your
>posts,but just make mere assertions,cheap shots.We make unreasonable
>demands,but we are most shock that you actually reveal a real live
>experimentation,an invincible proofs where those who partake would be
>praising God all day long-I mean those honest folks only).
You provide nothing but hot air and lies.
There are *no* evidence of that "god" thingy.
> 2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
> allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
> outside the lab rantings.
Pure gibberish.
> 3,Those who did the Prayer,
Which one?
> the overwhelming power which came upon
> you,
What "overwhelming power"? Could you defeat Rambo?
Well, time for a beer.
Olrik
<crap snipped>
Frankie Lee wrote:
> 1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
> real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
> of God.
>
> 2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
> allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
> outside the lab rantings.
>
> 3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
> you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
>
> 4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
> experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
> a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
> world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
> neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
>
> They are smart?My foot!
>
> YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
>
> For most of the important dicussion,dishonest crooks and liars could
> not and have not shown my fallacies,or discount my evidence.
>
> While many of them are calling for evidences of God,and after I
> provided for them,they have more excuses than ever.
>
> Since I am teachings kids,this method would be better to enlighten
> them:
Oh No. Please tell me that is a joke.
My thoughts go out to those poor innocent kids if they are forced to sit
and ingest your religious propaganda. It should be made a criminal
offense.
Survey . . . . . .
Please indicate below from this set of responses how you rate the
possibility of the potential loss of the human race or possibly the
entire human specie, due to a war using atomic weapons between opposing
religious factions in the next fifty years.
Highly improbable
Improbable
Possible
Almost certain *
I have made my selection
Me: You don't appear to be intelligent ,do you?Have I dictate my
beliefs on you,and why do you act like a kid?
Hey,do you know what is experimentation?Do you know what is evidence?
Do you know what is prove?
---------------------->
>
> > 2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
> > allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
> > outside the lab rantings.
>
> > 3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
> > you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
>
> > 4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
> > experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
> > a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
> > world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
> > neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
>
> > They are smart?My foot!
>
> > YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
>
> That's because YOU are the cranked up-asshole who made the assertions, so
> get up off your delusional ass and PROVE IT to the standards of the real
> world, not your pitiful fantasy. Not that I expect it will happen, but if
> you showed up at my front door and launched into your psychotic babbling,
> I'd just call HPD and let them know there's a loose lunatic in the
> neighborhood.
>
> I don't tolerate idiot preachers if they invade my turf.
***According to you,all school students and teachers who taught how
student to do test and experiments,now are idiot preachers?
Why must you show yourself,a stupid fool?
>
> --
> Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
***Are you talking in reverse?The bible claims about history, science,
biology,
astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
single observational measurement in existence--WERE KNOWN TO BE
TRUE,ACCURATE AND PRECISE.
***No one has ever set up any experiments that show a positive result
for
the test of whether God exists. No one. Your claim is false.
Reply: Why do you have a brain of a chicken?The entire world is the
lab of God.What is it that I claim and what is it that is wrong?
You mean experimentation to show God is real,true or whether He answer
prayers,are false claims or shouldn't be experimented?
Do you know what is true or false?If the experimentation is false,why
are there millions who can testify to you that it is real and true?
You are such a dishonest crook,and a well known liar,how do you know?
Help me here, Frankie boy : are you an imbecile, a retard, stupid, or
just plainly ignorant? Thanks!
Olrik
> have you read we used ridicules
Whenever you morontheists ignore the refutations we present to you.
> gotten mad
Every time you lose a debate, which is actually _every time_ due to your
crappy arguments.
> insults
Whenever you repeat long-debunked crap
> accused
> you of being liar
Every time you blatantly ignore our arguments because you know you cannot
counter them
> any-o-how shoot,use vulgarities?
Whenever your bullshit loses to reason
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
Simply put :- You are an idiot...!!!!
Kid, I know more about it than you ever will, sorry fraud that you give
evidence of. Your bullshit is always questionable.
>> > 2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
>> > allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
>> > outside the lab rantings.
>>
>> > 3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
>> > you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
>>
>> > 4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
>> > experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
>> > a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
>> > world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
>> > neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
>>
>> > They are smart?My foot!
>>
>> > YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
>>
>> That's because YOU are the cranked up-asshole who made the assertions, so
>> get up off your delusional ass and PROVE IT to the standards of the real
>> world, not your pitiful fantasy. ?Not that I expect it will happen, but if
>> you showed up at my front door and launched into your psychotic babbling,
>> I'd just call HPD and let them know there's a loose lunatic in the
>> neighborhood.
>>
>> I don't tolerate idiot preachers if they invade my turf.
>
> ***According to you,all school students and teachers who taught how
> student to do test and experiments,now are idiot preachers?
How about shutting up until you're a lot more fluent in English?
> Why must you show yourself,a stupid fool?
I couldn't care about your moronic fantasies. I don't need non-existent
gods to dictate my decisions, and if you keep it up...well, Darwin works in
mysterious ways (and that applies to everyone, not just you brain-damaged
godbots).
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
You sorry SOB - since when is there any actual proof of a worldwide flood in
what would be historical times? I don't see tidal deposits atop Everest.
You're just another godbabbler who couldn't care less about anyone who dares
to disagree with you.
***Good point.
Sea shells was found on top of the mountain.That is substantial
evidence.What more do you want?HongKong people went there too, to
confirm the world-wide flood.An Asian country.
***How about shutting up until you're a lot more fluent in English?
Reply: You could not understand what meaning is"dictate".Are you
trying to say you are poor in English comprehension?
***Kid, I know more about it than you ever will, sorry fraud that you
give
evidence of. Your bullshit is always questionable.
Reply: That is why we need experimentation,if it is questionable.
***What refutation?There is none.Check all the posts and all the
arguments.
**I just predicted that.Go and read again.
He mentally sick and hallucinating.
Yeah, remember you claimed that when your god created earth, the moon and
earth were "stucked" together and each year the moon moved 4 cm away until
where it is orbiting now. So, only a Freak like you believes that the Moon
escaped the earth's gravity in slow motion? What an idiot you are. You are
full of Freak and Shit.
May I ask exactly WTF you're babbling about?
No they are not End of discussion..............
Frankie, yours lies are predictable, boring and insulting to believers
and to God. Luckily for you, there is no evidence at all that the god
you blame these problems on exists. Go, learn. Stop being a fool.
--
Here is what Jesus said would happen to those who are intentionally
ignorant:
"Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten
talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an
abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from
him. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
>On Nov 7, 1:59�pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I read your claims. They are false. You have been corrected on them. You
have no excuse for repeating those false claims. You are a liar.
So you are more than two centuries out of date in your anti-science
arguments. Why don't you read some scientific work from the 19th, 20th
or 21st centuries?
>On Nov 7, 12:57�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Show me how that is the case. Your claim is not adequate. You need to
walk through the steps to support your claim.
>What is it that I claim and what is it that is wrong?
Your claims about the validity of the Bible are generally wrong. Your
refusal to pay attention to evidence shows your hubris, your proud
ignorance.
>You mean experimentation to show God is real,true or whether He answer
>prayers,are false claims or shouldn't be experimented?
If there are no gods, none of them can answer prayer, can they?
>Do you know what is true or false?If the experimentation is false,why
>are there millions who can testify to you that it is real and true?
How do they testify when they have no evidence? Are they all liars like
you?
>You are such a dishonest crook,and a well known liar,how do you know?
You make claims you cannot back up with evidence. Don't blame God for
your misbehavior.
I think he's claiming that he raised someone from the dead, but it's so
garbled I'm not sure.
All that proves is that a leading edge of continent was underwater
before colliding with another continent and being pushed up to form a
mountain.
It does not prove a world wide flood.
That you have yet to provide.
No matter how often you refute them they keep repeating the same old
bullshit. Even if the don't understand or dismiss it, they should till
realise that their claims are disputed.
Yet they keep making them to those who dispute them.
It does not prove a world wide flood.
Reply:So,water cover the mountain?If you could say that,why I cannot
say it was world wide flood,too?I could say it was a world wide
flood,just by sea shells found on it.You could interpret it by your
own deductions,it is up to you.
***You guys are so lost,and totally disconnected.
***Making mere assertions that my words was refuted doesn't meant my
messages were defeated.
If you are a honest guy,where can you find any refutation to my posts?
eg..Say my latest posts.About Experimentation.My main point.Where was
it refuted?THERE WASN'T EVEN A REBUTTAL!
God and godless...where was I refuted?
Now I know your fucking insane.
The bible has been shown to be nothing more then a set of fairy tales
and absurd stories set in a historicaly real setting, but not being
real. Like a Steven King story, set in Maine but fiction.
Get it, son?
PDW, not holding his breath.
PDW
No, water did not cover a mountain. The land became a mountain after it
had been underwater.
Since you have ignored every rebuttal done to this point, there is
really no point in trying to explain to you why you are wrong. You have
chosen the route of dishonesty and fraud.
It's an aggressively stupid fundamentist. What else do you expect?
***Reply: You are the one who deliberately chosen the route of
dishonesty and fraud.All my posts can be verified,and I don't delete
it in 7 days or seven years.It is all archived,as long as the net
survive.
You kept using slanders,just like others.You made side comments"you
lied",just any-o-how,and more often offered no back up explanations at
all.You purposely showed yourself as a loser.
**Oh I see,this kind of insults were to mean having refute my messages?
This is not even counted as a REBUTTAL.You guys shown yourself to be
seriously dumb.
I'm a hell of a lot more fluent than you are, after learning to read when I
was three years old (which was 51 years ago, almost a decade before the
Internet got started). You don't dictate anyone else's beliefs, and you
damned sure don't dictate mine.
> Reply: You could not understand what meaning is"dictate".Are you trying to
> say you are poor in English comprehension?
What I'm saying is you're a self-worshiping godbot who's too full of his ego
to refrain from posting your crap to alt.atheism.
> ***Kid, I know more about it than you ever will, sorry fraud that you give
> evidence of. Your bullshit is always questionable.
>
> Reply: That is why we need experimentation,if it is questionable.
It's questionable, whether you understand it or not. (Whether *you're*
questionable is yet to be determined.)
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
Me: Freelunch,do you notice your errors?Or are u disconnect again?The
assumptions were,if there are tidal deposits on top of Everest,like
sea shells which is supposed to be in the Ocean,then according to
him,There is a world wide Flood.Fullstop.
Since you have such silly inference,that the land became a
mountain,which is absolutely impossible--sea shell life
spent,decay...etc..(I wonder you understand)...there goes your
interpretation.
I discover you are actually very shallow,perhaps very young guy,very
little intelligence.(No offense intended).You like to twist logic and
turn against logic to suit your narrow world.
>On Nov 8, 1:20锟絘m, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:08:31 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee
>> <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Nov 7, 11:33锟絧m, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:25:00 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:12:18 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee
>> >> ><leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>> >> >>On Nov 7, 1:59锟絧m, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Frankie Lee wrote:
>> >> >>> > On Nov 7, 12:50 pm, tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> On Nov 6, 11:08 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> >>> 1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
>> >> >>> >>> real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
>> >> >>> >>> of God.
>> >> >>> >> It isn't even that this is the worst problem you face. 锟絀n TRUTH,
>> >> >>> >> physical reality simply disputes all the fantasy stories of "creation"
>> >> >>> >> and everything the bible claims about history, science, biology,
>> >> >>> >> astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> >> >>> >> single observational measurement in existence. 锟絀f your god does
>> >> >>> >> exist, why would it be so completely WRONG about every single thing it
>> >> >>> >> supposedly created?
>>
>> >> >>> >> ---
>> >> >>> >> a.a. #2273
>>
>> >> >>> > ***Are you talking in reverse?The bible claims about history, science,
>> >> >>> > biology,
>> >> >>> > 锟絘stronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> >> >>> > 锟絪ingle observational measurement in existence--WERE KNOWN TO BE
I've read your posts. They do not contain evidence to support your
claims. You cannot point to a single one of them that supports your
claims with evidence. Not one.
>You kept using slanders,just like others.You made side comments"you
>lied",just any-o-how,and more often offered no back up explanations at
>all.You purposely showed yourself as a loser.
You have lied to us. You repeatedly lie to us. You have no excuse for
your behavior.
***If my posts is stupid,would you think they wanted to continue to
request me to show more and more proofs?Begging me to back up my
claims.
None has yet to refute any of my posts,and most rebuttals already
refuted by me.
Too bad that the Himalayas crept up over many million years, a result of
plate tectonics. There is precisely zero evidence for a wordwide flood in
historical times. (You might want to be grateful for a 10-kilometer rock
that dropped down just off the northern Yucat�n about 65 million years
ago...had it not arrived, none of us would be here.)
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
He probably can't count that far.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
Why do you think that matters?
>Me: Freelunch,do you notice your errors?Or are u disconnect again?The
>assumptions were,if there are tidal deposits on top of Everest,like
>sea shells which is supposed to be in the Ocean,then according to
>him,There is a world wide Flood.Fullstop.
There was no such flood.
>Since you have such silly inference,that the land became a
>mountain,which is absolutely impossible--sea shell life
>spent,decay...etc..(I wonder you understand)...there goes your
>interpretation.
Your argument is with all geologists. It is not my fault that you have
chosen to remain ignorant of geology, particularly plate tectonics. That
was your choice, but you don't get to argue that you are correct about
something when it is very clear to the informed that you are incorrect
and that you are ignorant of the actual knowledge that scientists have
gathered.
>I discover you are actually very shallow,perhaps very young guy,very
>little intelligence.(No offense intended).You like to twist logic and
>turn against logic to suit your narrow world.
No, you have not discovered that, either. Why don't you work on learning
a little about science first.
>On Nov 8, 1:13�am, "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I doubt it. You have already demonstrated that your message is
unreliable. No one believes a thing you say here.
>This is not even counted as a REBUTTAL.You guys shown yourself to be
>seriously dumb.
You need to post something worth rebutting if you expect to be treated
with enough respect to have people bother to rebut it. Right now, you
are just entertainment.
Every time he lied, I pointed it out.
No such experiments have ever been made.
Indeed, those experiments testing the power of prayer for medical
purposes showed no difference between those patients who had somebody
praying for them and those who had nobody.
From
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/14/AR2005071401695.html>:
"Praying for sick strangers does not improve their prospects of
recovering, according to a large, carefully designed study that casts
doubt on the widely held belief that being prayed for can help a person
heal.
"The study of more than 700 heart patients, one of the most ambitious
attempts to test the medicinal power of prayer, showed that those who
had people praying for them from a distance, and without their
knowledge, were no less likely to suffer a major complication, end up
back in the hospital or die."
>
> 2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
> allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
> outside the lab rantings.
>
I highly doubt that you've ever even seen the inside of a lab, so that
makes your rantings some of the crookedest and nuttiest.
> 3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
> you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
I bet you it didn't happen in any objective and verifiable manner - if
at all.
>
> 4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
> experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
> a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
> world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
> neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
Ignorant would be you Frankie, since you clearly do not understand how
fossilization happens or how radiometric dating is done. Yet in your
ignorance you still proclaim them as hoaxes.
>
> They are smart?My foot!
>
> YET,THEY ARE YAKKING FOR EVIDENCE AND PROVES.
You are a hypocrite, Frankie. When other people ask you for evidence of
your claims, but when other say things, you require that they provide
evidence.
>
> For most of the important dicussion,dishonest crooks and liars could
> not and have not shown my fallacies,or discount my evidence.
You haven't given any evidence, and your main fallacy - that of argument
from incredulity - has been pointed out to you many times.
>
> While many of them are calling for evidences of God,and after I
> provided for them,they have more excuses than ever.
You haven't provided anything.
>
> Since I am teachings kids,this method would be better to enlighten
> them:
You would do better to enlighten yourself on how science actually works
and to combat your ignorance before you go about thinking that you can
enlighten others.
> *****
> In essence,"I know you can prove God's existence,not just by mere
> thesis,or words,but even goes to the extent of real live prove,but we
> are just a bunch of obnoxious nuts,that is all.Let me prove to you we
> are idiots--have you read we used ridicules,gotten mad,insults,accused
> you of being liar,any-o-how shoot,use vulgarities?)
>
> (If you care to study,we never attack your words,or discount your
> posts,but just make mere assertions,cheap shots.We make unreasonable
> demands,but we are most shock that you actually reveal a real live
> experimentation,an invincible proofs where those who partake would be
> praising God all day long-I mean those honest folks only).
You haven't revealed any experimentation - and certainly not any actual
evidence - that God exists.
You are a liar and a hypocrite.
Read what I said again, it wasn't a mountain when the water covered
it.
> If you could say that,why I cannot
Because it wasn't what I said, moron.
Because you don't have any evidence, Frankie, while geology in general
and plate tectonics theory in specific have rather a lot of evidence.
If you want to make claims, you need to back them up, you hypocrite.
No, we're just not capable of decoding what your bizarre manglings of
the English language are supposed to mean. It reads as if someone ran
it back and forth through a translation bot several times, and posted
the result.
Then verify them.
There absolutely was not a worldwide flood as described in the Bible.
If it had happened the world would look different to the way it looks
today.
For example: you know what goldfish are Frankie? Orange freshwater
fish. Put them in salt water and they die. If the flood had happened,
there would not have been any environment anywhere in the world in
which they could have survived, and there would now be no goldfish. In
fact, this applies to most marine life, and most plant life as well.
So why is it we do not live in a world containing only plants and fish
that could survive a global flood? Only possible answer: it never
happened.
Andy
***If I explain to you why goldfish survive,then you will come up with
another thoughts and so forth.In fact what do you think of Noah who
live hundreds of years?The conditions were different then.eg.How then
could animals be so obliging so as to obey Noah's instruction?
By arguing that Noah could not live few hundreds of years is enough to
demolish the Biblical accounts,right?Why bother to go to gray areas?
I really wonder you guys really understand what it is all about.
The recorded history is for us to read and discern.We were not there
to watch.We are all not eye witness accounts.There are many
information missing,too many for us to judge as to say whether it is
unreliable.The first rule is to approach it with neutrality for
unbelievers,and for Faith to believers.
eg.I say I had raised a dead woman to life.This is my account,and I
wrote the truths.For those who has nil knowledge of my experience,nor
know any witnesses,suddenly trumpet that I am lying.By breaching
neutrality to a issue first,one had discredited himself.
Of course, shallow deduction gain support.Why?Most are prone to
believe the non-miracles and wonders... that happened or to the
miracles.... which had happened?
I know your mindsets,and your reasoning.The problems are,you can never
fathom mine.
***There are bizarre things in my words.However,it can be
understood.If you miss to pause,you may get lost.
You did not answer my question, freak. So I'll repeat it :
"Help me here, Frankie boy : are you an imbecile, a retard, stupid, or
just plainly ignorant? Thanks!"
Stay focused and answer it.
Olrik
One example: The Bible declared the stars are
countless.Astronomically,it is precise.
Biology.Human and Animals produce to its kinds.Human produce human,and
Dog produce dogs.Plants yield fruits to its kinds.
Archaeology-There are places as describe in the Bible,were actual
place,found by them.But of course some of those places aren't
found,which doesn't equate it is not there,but not yet found.
History..Abraham,the ancestor of the Jews.The Jews are living proof of
the Historical accounts.
Chemistry...Old wine skin doesn't fit into new wine skin.
Which part you don't understand?
Also meaningless.
> Biology.Human and Animals produce to its kinds.Human produce human,and
> Dog produce dogs.Plants yield fruits to its kinds.
> Archaeology-There are places as describe in the Bible,were actual
> place,found by them.But of course some of those places aren't
> found,which doesn't equate it is not there,but not yet found.
?????????????????????????
> History..Abraham,the ancestor of the Jews.The Jews are living proof of
> the Historical accounts.
> Chemistry...Old wine skin doesn't fit into new wine skin.
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> Which part you don't understand?
The part why you're not institutionalized.
Olrik
If you were sane, yeah. But since your not, I guess I'm just wasting
my time.
> This is not even counted as a REBUTTAL.
Not by sane people, of which you are not.
You guys shown yourself to be
> seriously dumb.
Stop projecting, sick one.
PDW
The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that your 'posts' have been
refuted is irrelevant.
Just like you.
PDW
Lie in paragraph one; No need to continue.
PDW
> ***How about shutting up until you're a lot more fluent in English?
>
> Reply: You could not understand what meaning is"dictate".Are you
> trying to say you are poor in English comprehension?
Frankie ....... for those of us ( most in this ng ) who were born, bred and
Educated in an English speaking country, whose native language ( and in most
cases ONLY language ) is ENGLISH, who can only understand regular spoken
English, ( e.g USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand ) your Gibberish is
NOT a language we recognise ...... I have trouble following nearly
everything you write, it is mostly incomprehensible nonsense .......... I
have lived in Singapore and understand that the Chinese version of English
that is spoken there is not exactly the same as in the west, but it is damn
close. Your version of English is nonsense in the guise of English.
You may think you are writing incredible prose, but the rest of us think it
is unintelligable garbage ........ and I'm not even talking about your
religious viewpoints ..... which are just batshit crazy from start to finish
......
>
> ***Kid, I know more about it than you ever will, sorry fraud that you
> give
> evidence of. Your bullshit is always questionable.
>
> Reply: That is why we need experimentation,if it is questionable.
you don't know the first thing about the 'Scientific method' ....... you're
inability to understand what is meant by 'evidence' shows that very clearly
.....
--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity .............
and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
Does Schr�dinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
>> > >Since you have ignored every rebuttal done to this point, there is
>> > >really no point in trying to explain to you why you are wrong. You have
>> > >chosen the route of dishonesty and fraud.
>>
>> > It's an aggressively stupid fundamentist. What else do you expect?
>>
>> ***If my posts is stupid,would you think they wanted to continue to
>> request me to show more and more proofs?Begging me to back up my
>> claims.
>>
>> None has yet to refute any of my posts,and most rebuttals already
>> refuted by me.
>
>The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that your 'posts' have been
>refuted is irrelevant.
>Just like you.
The imbecile he pretends he doesn't understand "put up or shut up".
>PDW
***You called people imbecile?Do you agree everyone should call you by
that name?If not,can you tell us why?
Why do you show yourself as obnoxious,and idiotic?Are you so hurt by
me?
Do you want me to slam you by saying put up or shut up?
If not why you gave precedence?
A global event, not recorded by ANY history, outside of the bible.
Matthew 27.
An event, so uncommon, that it would have been recorded by contemporary
historians, and the mighty Josephus. All of whom, are totally silent on
the event.
There are many others that show your bible to be the work of mythology
that it is. And just because there are Jews, does not prove the
existence of one man. Just because ancient men could not count all the
stars, does not prove the bible accurate and true.
Go read "The Bible Unearthed" for some facts about middle east
archeology and history, that you won't hear in Sunday school.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://azhotops.blogspot.com
A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
BAAWA Knight Sir Karl of the Solaris Media
____________________________________________________________________
You're already lost, Freakie Lee. Some of your more fanatical godbots might
decide you need to shut up.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, San Antonio 2 (November 7)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 13 at Lake Erie, 6:35
Because you made false claims that you cannot back up with evidence.
You, in short, are a useless liar who claims to be a believer but acts
contrary to what you were taught.
>On Nov 7, 1:59锟絧m, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Frankie Lee wrote:
>> > On Nov 7, 12:50 pm, tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 6, 11:08 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> 1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
>> >>> real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
>> >>> of God.
>> >> It isn't even that this is the worst problem you face. 锟絀n TRUTH,
>> >> physical reality simply disputes all the fantasy stories of "creation"
>> >> and everything the bible claims about history, science, biology,
>> >> astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> >> single observational measurement in existence. 锟絀f your god does
>> >> exist, why would it be so completely WRONG about every single thing it
>> >> supposedly created?
>>
>> >> ---
>> >> a.a. #2273
>>
>> > ***Are you talking in reverse?The bible claims about history, science,
>> > biology,
>> > 锟絘stronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> > 锟絪ingle observational measurement in existence--WERE KNOWN TO BE
>> > TRUE,ACCURATE AND PRECISE.
>>
>> Help me here, Frankie boy : are you an imbecile, a retard, stupid, or
>> just plainly ignorant? Thanks!
>>
>> Olrik
>------------------
>The bible claims about history, science,
> biology,
> astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
> single observational measurement in existence--WERE KNOWN TO BE
>TRUE,ACCURATE AND PRECISE.
>
>One example: The Bible declared the stars are
>countless.Astronomically,it is precise.
No, stars are part of a countable set. The number of stars visible is
definitely countable.
>Biology.Human and Animals produce to its kinds.Human produce human,and
>Dog produce dogs.Plants yield fruits to its kinds.
Except that horses and donkeys produce mules and all sorts of
interesting cross-breeds are found in plants.
>Archaeology-There are places as describe in the Bible,were actual
>place,found by them.
So was Troy. Are you claiming that the Greek gods started the Trojan
war?
>But of course some of those places aren't
>found,which doesn't equate it is not there,but not yet found.
It is not the lack of locations, but the physical evidence found in
those locations that shows that the Bible is a bunch of just-so stories
unrelated to reality.
>History..Abraham,the ancestor of the Jews.The Jews are living proof of
>the Historical accounts.
I have no idea how you drew that conclusion. It is not valid.
>Chemistry...Old wine skin doesn't fit into new wine skin.
No doubt you think that made sense.
>Which part you don't understand?
I don't understand why you are so proud of your ignorance.
OK so the Sun now revolves around the Earth, Bats are Birds, and Pi=3
these are just three areas the Bible got it wrong. There were no
Jewish Slaves in Egypt, The Jewish People were always a part of Canna.
The Bible is far more wrong than it is ever been shown to be right.
There is evidence the seas were higher millions of years ago but not
in the last 4,000 years. The last Great flood was over 10,000 years
ago at the end of the last Ice Age.
It is a part of that science stuff I know you do not put much never
mind to that book learnin and all unless it is to worship your Bible.
The whole mountain range was formed through plate techtonics unlike
say mountains like Mt St. Helen which is volcanic. The himlayas were
formed when two plates collided and pushed one over the other thus
raising the sea floor to the top of a mountain. This is called Science
and not fantasy, like evolution.
> I discover you are actually very shallow,perhaps very young guy,very
> little intelligence.(No offense intended).You like to twist logic and
> turn against logic to suit your narrow world.
How about you actually following his suggestion, jerk?
It'd help your rep considerably.
PDW
In other words, you have no evidence, no proofs, and no guts.
Only the folks that have earned that title, such as you.
Absolute nonsense.
>
> One example: The Bible declared the stars are
> countless.Astronomically,it is precise.
Actually, we've managed to use computers to come up with a pretty
precise count on the starts in the universe, using the hubble, and the
brightness levels in the several given areas. Of course, new stars
are being born, old stars are dying in a constant basis.
Probably true, but irrelevant. The fact is, you can't even answer that
little problem, so I hardly need to confuse you further with any of
the other very many other evidences that there was no global flood.
Just reflect on that for a moment: you don't answer because you
absolutely cannot. You have no answer. Because your beliefs are flat
wrong.
> In fact what do you think of Noah who
> live hundreds of years?
I think he's fictional.
> The conditions were different then.eg.How then
> could animals be so obliging so as to obey Noah's instruction?
That again is a question for you to answer, not me.
>
> By arguing that Noah could not live few hundreds of years is enough to
> demolish the Biblical accounts,right?Why bother to go to gray areas?
Gray areas? It's the easiest thing in the world to understand. There
are things alive in the world today that would not be alive if the
Flood had happened, therefore it didn't happen. And you have no way to
refute it.
>
> I really wonder you guys really understand what it is all about.
>
> The recorded history is for us to read and discern.We were not there
> to watch.We are all not eye witness accounts.There are many
> information missing,too many for us to judge as to say whether it is
> unreliable.The first rule is to approach it with neutrality for
> unbelievers,and for Faith to believers.
Why should believers not approach it with neutrality as well? If you
assume things are true without testing them you will end up believing
a lot of nonsense. Which you do.
>
> eg.I say I had raised a dead woman to life.This is my account,and I
> wrote the truths.For those who has nil knowledge of my experience,nor
> know any witnesses,suddenly trumpet that I am lying.By breaching
> neutrality to a issue first,one had discredited himself.
The thing is, you have earned yourself a reputation for not telling
the truth, so when you make an outrageous claim like this and
completely fail to back it up, it is not surprising that no-one
believes you. I know people who have raised others from the dead, but
they did it with oxygen and defibrillators. Prayer plus medicine is no
more effective than medicine alone, and prayer alone does nothing at
all.
>
> Of course, shallow deduction gain support.Why?Most are prone to
> believe the non-miracles and wonders... that happened or to the
> miracles.... which had happened?
>
> I know your mindsets,and your reasoning.The problems are,you can never
> fathom mine.
That is because it is hard to understand your poor English, and
possibly that you still appear to be insane.
Andy
Or based on an earlier character. The flood story was first told in
"The Tales of Gilgamesh", and was most likely based on a local
flood. Over the following centuries the story was coopted by number
of cultures, including the Hebrew. The earliest account of this tale
was found in Iraq on a stone tablet.
>1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
>real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
>of God.
Are you saying that you can produce God on demand?
>2,As I have stated,dishonest folks not allowed,and since no one would
>allowed a crooked nut to the lab,so it is interesting to see those
>outside the lab rantings.
I missed the part where you produced an experimental protocol for
purifying the existence of Almighty God. Perhaps you could repeat that
protocol?
>3,Those who did the Prayer,the overwhelming power which came upon
>you,and special revelations from above,you are to testify it.
I have no question about the power of prayer. However, in my experience,
prayer, with the exception of occasional physical miracles that are not
repeatable, is very much a subjective experience.
I am no atheist. But I find that a lot of Christians tend to attack
atheists with strawman fallacies, rationalizations, and generally very
poor logic. Faith is not logic. They are two different dimensions of the
human experience. If you have faith without logic, you end up accepting
every idea that comes along in blind belief. If you have logic without
faith, you end up mired in an endless quest for premises, often denying
evidence merely because you don't believe it.
In fact, logic itself is a kind of universal revelation. There is no
reason for reason. That is to say, in a completely chaotic universe,
logic need not work at all.
>4,You won't believe me... that many Atheists doesn't believe
>experimentations is an essential tools to confirm or affirm a claim,or
>a theory.Imagine,I talk to a bunch of the most ignorant folks of our
>world,unschooled and totally unlearned about the most basic
>neccessities, requirements, to prove something or show something.
What I don't believe is that you honestly think that calling atheists
names is going to do anything other than anger them. Atheists are
unbelievers not ignorant fools. They have their reasons (or what they
believe are reasons) for not accepting any religious beliefs. You seem
awfully defensive on that score. And by posting to all.talk.creationism,
you indicate that you believe that all opposition to creationism is
motivated by dogmatic atheism. In fact my own opposition to it is
motivated by my perception that the latter-day creationism is clearly a
heresy.
Now you might ask why I think it is a heresy. One reason is that latter-
day creationism was CREATED as a means of bypassing the anti-
establishment clause in the US Constitution. In order to do that, a lie
was promulgated. That lie was the false claim that there were real
scientific objections to evolution. Not just to evolution, however, but
to geology, paleontology, and even nuclear physics, not to mention
general astronomy.
Of course to anyone with even a modest scientific education, such claims
are ludicrous and it is abundantly clear that the creationists were then
and are now lying about having scientific evidence to support their
religious dogmas. Now I don't know about your branch of the faith, but
mine has traditionally, for 2000 years and more, treated false witness as
a sin. When a religious so-called Ministry teaches people to sin, and
especially to sin in God's name (thus compounding false witness with
blasphemy), then we brand that Ministry as heretical, or heterodox (as
opposed to orthodox).
It almost seems as if the latter-day creationists are intent on
besmirching the good reputation of Christianity (which has been
besmirched enough without their ministrations).
In any case, I would strongly suggest that you find a better means of
displaying your faith to atheists than simply calling them names and
falsely accusing them of things they are not guilty of. In fact, I would
contend that if you are unable to make this change in your behavior, then
whatever spirit is inspiring you is anything but holy.
--
Dave Oldridge+
>Frankie Lee wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 12:50 pm, tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 6, 11:08 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
>>>> real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
>>>> of God.
>>> It isn't even that this is the worst problem you face. In TRUTH,
>>> physical reality simply disputes all the fantasy stories of "creation"
>>> and everything the bible claims about history, science, biology,
>>> astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>>> single observational measurement in existence. If your god does
>>> exist, why would it be so completely WRONG about every single thing it
>>> supposedly created?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> a.a. #2273
>>
>> ***Are you talking in reverse?The bible claims about history, science,
>> biology,
>> astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> single observational measurement in existence--WERE KNOWN TO BE
>> TRUE,ACCURATE AND PRECISE.
>
>Help me here, Frankie boy : are you an imbecile, a retard, stupid, or
>just plainly ignorant? Thanks!
>
>Olrik
I want Frankie to show us just where god supposedly makes all these
"TRUE,ACCURATE AND PRECISE" scientific predictions. Something tells me he'll
never deliver.
Frankie?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
>On Nov 8, 1:27 am, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:20:13 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:08:31 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee
>> ><leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>> >>On Nov 7, 11:33 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:25:00 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>> >>> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:12:18 -0800 (PST), Frankie Lee
>> >>> ><leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>> >>> >>On Nov 7, 1:59 pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> Frankie Lee wrote:
>> >>> >>> > On Nov 7, 12:50 pm, tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >> On Nov 6, 11:08 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>> >>> 1,Not a single fellow dispute the experimentations,or the set up in
>> >>> >>> >>> real live experiments of proofs,where one can get the proofs,evidences
>> >>> >>> >>> of God.
>> >>> >>> >> It isn't even that this is the worst problem you face. In TRUTH,
>> >>> >>> >> physical reality simply disputes all the fantasy stories of "creation"
>> >>> >>> >> and everything the bible claims about history, science, biology,
>> >>> >>> >> astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> >>> >>> >> single observational measurement in existence. If your god does
>> >>> >>> >> exist, why would it be so completely WRONG about every single thing it
>> >>> >>> >> supposedly created?
>>
>> >>> >>> >> ---
>> >>> >>> >> a.a. #2273
>>
>> >>> >>> > ***Are you talking in reverse?The bible claims about history, science,
>> >>> >>> > biology,
>> >>> >>> > astronomy, cosmology, chemistry, archeology and essentially every
>> >>> >>> > single observational measurement in existence--WERE KNOWN TO BE
>> >>> >>> > TRUE,ACCURATE AND PRECISE.
>>
>> >>> >>> Help me here, Frankie boy : are you an imbecile, a retard, stupid, or
>> >>> >>> just plainly ignorant? Thanks!
>>
>> >>> >>> Olrik
>>
>> >>> >>**I just predicted that.Go and read again.
>>
>> >>> >I read your claims. They are false. You have been corrected on them. You
>> >>> >have no excuse for repeating those false claims. You are a liar.
>>
>> >>> No matter how often you refute them they keep repeating the same old
>> >>> bullshit. Even if the don't understand or dismiss it, they should till
>> >>> realise that their claims are disputed.
>>
>> >>> Yet they keep making them to those who dispute them.
>>
>> >>***Making mere assertions that my words was refuted doesn't meant my
>> >>messages were defeated.
>>
>> >>If you are a honest guy,where can you find any refutation to my posts?
>>
>> >>eg..Say my latest posts.About Experimentation.My main point.Where was
>> >>it refuted?THERE WASN'T EVEN A REBUTTAL!
>> >>God and godless...where was I refuted?
>>
>> >Since you have ignored every rebuttal done to this point, there is
>> >really no point in trying to explain to you why you are wrong. You have
>> >chosen the route of dishonesty and fraud.
>>
>> It's an aggressively stupid fundamentist. What else do you expect?
>
>***If my posts is stupid,would you think they wanted to continue to
>request me to show more and more proofs?Begging me to back up my
>claims.
>
>None has yet to refute any of my posts,and most rebuttals already
>refuted by me.
It is entertaining to watch you squirm when you are called on your bullshit.
You make stupid claims and refuse to back them up with anything meaningful.
Rebutting you is meaningless to you, (although it educates others) but poking
sticks at the freak in the cage (you) is just a whole lot of fun.