PING! Frankie Lee
Tom McCafferty
think they got to North America?
FRANKIE LEE
"Tom McCafferty" <burnaby...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FE88BE0...@hotmail.com...
> During Noah's Flood, why did not the Native Americans drown? How do you
> think they got to North America?
>
How did the Native got to America from which area and place,I do not know.
Tom McCafferty
Below was taken from: http://whyfiles.org/061polar/anthro.html
During the last ice age, the exposed ocean floor between Siberia and North America made a perfect migration path to the New World.
The first Americans walked to the New World across a land bridge that joined Asia and North America between 70,000 and 11,000 years ago.
Take a look at this timeline, Frankie,
How Genesis is like Scientific Evolution
There was nothing, and then something
(big bang)
The heavens and stars were created
The earth was created
Land was created
Creatures were created
Humans created last from one pair
of common ancestors
Tony Smith's Timeline
http://www.arthurhu.com/index/evol.htm
Evolution time line time before present
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NO OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING BEFORE THIS TIME!
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THE BEGINNING
THE BIG BANG
10^-34 sec universe 10^-33 cm in size, 10 ^32 deg
10^-5 formation of protons and neutrons from quarks
1 sec electrons
3 min helium nuclei
300,000 yr helium hydrogen atoms, visible light
10M first galaxies
1B first stars, quasars galaxies
time from beginning of time
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time before present
12-16B big bang creation - hubble constant, red shift
16B age of milky way galaxy britannica.com
15B farthest Quasars observable from ground
15B farthest observed galaxy - Hubble red shift
14B 2001 estimate of age of universe
13.5B Gravitational lensing at forming galaxy
12B farthest cluster of galaxies
13B oldest stars in Milky Way
7B oldest observable galaxies from ground
5B? Supernova blows, forming solar system
4.6B Earth solidifes
4.5B rock from mars - radio date
4.6B meteorite with amino acids
4.6B earth, meteors, solar system and sun - radio,
star model
4.4B moon crust - radio date
4.3B Earth forms layers atmosphere
4.0B Bombardment by planetesimals stops
3.9B Mars rock with bacteria-like magnetite
3.9B 15 hour day, moon 4x apparent size, sun 75%
bright
3.8B Earth crust solidifies, oceans form
3.8B Fe3O4 Magnetite ferrous Banded Iron
formations begin to be formed
by bacteria.
3.8B oldest US rocks - radiodate Rhodesian-Kaapvaal
craton
3.5B first bacteria fossils - radiodate/strata
3.5B Stromatolites, limestone with algae
3.5B Photosynthesis
2.5B 5 continents NAm, Europe, Siberia, China,
Gondwanaland
2.4B Rise in oxygen stop uraninites, starts iron
2.2B Earth is iceball down to 11 deg of equator
1.7B Bottom of Grand Canyon laid down
1.5B Multicellular organisms
1.4B Shungite coal from algae laid down
1B youngest stars in Milky Way
1B pikes peak rock (radiodate)
640M Large soft organisms - radio, strata
600M glacial age
570M trilobite fossils
544M Phanerozoic / Paleozoic Era - visible life
540M Cambrian - explosion of hard body animals,
520M Pikaia worm with stiff back cord
500 Vertebrates - fish
470 oaklahoma bromide trilobites
470 jawless fish, no front fin Pteraspis
440 1st great extinction
435 ice age
430 coated algae live on land
420 water scorpion
420 Millipedes 1st land animals
410M Silurian - jawed fish
408 Spore bearing plants
400M flying insects burke
400M all major fish groups burke scary fishes
380 Cherirolepis oldest ray fin in lake burke
375 lungfish with lungs, lobe fins burke
fin structure similar to modern human
375 Eastmanosteus jawed fish burke
375 Bothriolepis first common freshwater fish
burke
375 Appalacian mountains
375 Sharks
375 fern trees proto vonifers burke
370 2nd great extinction
410-360 end devonian, low oxygen inoceans killing
most fish burke
360 land animals with limbs appear
360 early armoured fish no jaw extinct burke
350 Amphibians
350 Ferns - rooted plants
310 Reptiles live out of water
300M longest ice age
300M winged insects
2-300M pangea, dinosaurs emerged
286M conifers appear
255M Permian greatest extinction of all time
trilobites died
85% of plants animals die
ray fin fishes survive
250M Top layer of Grand canyon
245M Mesozoic Era
230M Roaches Termites
228M Euroaptor 1st dinosaur
225M Modern ferns Bees
210M early mammals
200M Pangea breaks apart
200M Rock dating limit, dating gap
200M Crocodiles, Mammals
163M Dinos, Ammonoids peak
150M ice age cycle time
145M Archaepteryx first bird
140M Apto(bronto)sauus
140M Stegosaurus
136M Kangaroos
130M Flowering plants
120M Snakes
100M Cranes
100M fossil sturgeon
100M N cascades meets n america burke
95M Ammonite pre nautilus
70M Tyranasaurus
6-70M Rocky Mountains form
65M Yucatan meteor strike
65M Cenozoic era - modern life, continents
65M Great dinosaur extinction
end of marine reptiles,
ammonites
60M Rats Mice Squirrels
56M Carnivora - leads to cats, dogs
45-50 freshwater herring Knightia most common fish fossil
40M Cascades erupt in NW N.America
40M earliest link to primates
37M cats appear
35M Grand Canyon river is on plain
28M Koalas
20M Chimpanzee Hominids
20M Start to cut Grand Canyon
18M-6m E wash basalt lava
6M Columbia River Plateau
6M "Millenium Man" first hominid Kenya
2000
5.5M Australopithecus in Africa
5M-50K Neandertal found in Africa?
4.5-6M men diverge from apes (DNA)
4.4M earliest manlike
4.4M 1994 ethiopia human-like teeth
4.4M Ardipithecus ramidus apelike hominid
3.9-3M Australopithecus afarensis "Lucy"
3.8M Tanzania homonid footprints walking
3.2M 1970's Lucy skull
2.8M Leaky 1973 skull
2.7M Lucy splits into africanus, aethipicus, homo?
2.5M enters current ice age
2.5M stone tools Homo Habilis pre-human
2.5M Genus homo found
2.3M Andromeda Galaxy image
1.8M olduvai gorge ash, early man, radio
1.8M ice at poles, ice age starts
1.8M-50K Homo Erectus
1.7M First Homo ergaster found out of Africa
1.6M earliest evidence of homo erectus fire
1.5M Hand axe
1.5M Leakey finds Erectus, Habilis, Australopithecus
@same time
1.5M Human exodus from Africa to Europe Asia (Last
Neaderthal)
1M Homo erectus fire
750K definitely controlled fire
700K last reversal of magnetic poles
700k ice ages begin
600k Zinjanthropus 1961
600k Nanjing Man 580-620 Homo Erectus
500K Java Man (epic of man)
500K Neanderthal and modern man diverge
400K Torralba animal kill site, live in huts, no
language
400K Chellean man
400K Peking Man 4/5 modern brain size
350K Simple symbolic thought / art
300K Oldest ice core data
250K fire widespread
240K Small Magellanic Cloud image
200K Polar Bears evolved ABC news
200K Transition Homo Erectus - HSapiens
200K arrow heads, harpoons, bows arrows, skin scrapers
for clothing
200K Africans split from other humans
200K Mitochondrial Eve (Last Neanderthal)
180K Neanderthal emerges
160K Vladivostock ice core
150K Eve, common mother to all modern humans [eve1]
130K "pathfinder" found on way out of Africa
120K-0 Homo sapiens leave Africa
110K Euro/Mongoloid split from Africans
100K Potassium Argon dating to billions yr
100K Symbolic art blossoms
100K Light Diameter of Milky Way
100K Homo Sapiens reaches middle east
100K Last Homo Erectus "Java" man
80K Homo Sapiens leave Africa [mead]
80K Blombos middle stone age cave
75K Toba Eruption - ice age
75K Humans fall from 100,000 to 1,000 (BBC,
diputed)
60K Mungo Man oldest DNA, looks, but not related
to moderns
60K Australian aborigines - oldest living culture
traveled by boat. Sea Level
250 feet below present
55K Oldest rock painting Australia
10-50K Europeans from 4 mtDNA lines from South Asia
50-100K Homo sapiens
50K Limit of Carbon dating, dating gap.
Any living thing with less
C14 is older than 50K yrs.
50K Meteor Crater Arizona
50K Oldest rocks on Mt St. Helens
47K Neanderthal mammoth tooth carving
45K people bury their dead
45K Japan Lake algae C14 dating
41K NE Asians split from Caucasians
40K Hamster / Mouse dating Middle East
40K Cro-Magnon Culture, less nomadic
40K Humans found siberia N China
40K NativeAm Asian gene clock diverge
40K Brazil charcoal
40K greenland ice core layers
40K human art, paintings
35K rock paintings Tanzania THRace 14
35K First Mt St. Helens Eruptions
32K ivory horse, oldest animal carving
30K Symbols in paintings (pre-writing)
29K C14 + Tree ring dating
28K Blades in China similar to Meadocroft
27K Last known Neandertal remains
27K Oldest woven cloth
25K Human pop 100,000
25K Brazil cave paintings
25k seas start to lower
for bering bridge (This is how
Native Americans came to North America.)
25k bone needles
20-25k Genetic evidence of Bering Bridge
crossing [mead]
20K Huon Pine Tasmania (oldest tree)
20K Ice age warms towards present - 3
20k saber tooth cat la brea burke
16k Meadowcroft site in Pennsylvania similar
to China [mead]
15k wolf domesticated in Asia
14k meadowcroft pa site dates
14k southmost glacier in wa state
14k Montana ice dams flood e wash
13K bering land bridge
crossing (traditional)
12K SeaTac airport ground sloth burke
12K Mesolithic nomadic hunter gather (Stone
Age)
12K Mongolians cross into N America
12K goats domesticated for milk
12K coral C14 calibration
11K Mastodons large mammals extinct
10K Oldest copper Turkey
10-12K Near east agriculture
10K Oldest sandals found in Oregon
10K Neolithic middle east revolution
10K End of last ice age - 3
10K Mesopotamia tokens for accounting
10K Complete tree ring history
10K oldest man site in US C14
10K cows domesticated
10K Neolithic - farming, domestication
10K TBT Human population 5 million
9,500 Jericho established ThumanRace p17
9,400 tree ring c14 calibration
9,400 Nevada mummy, oldest N.Am
9,300 Kennewick Man WA, non-Mongolian
9,000 evidence of dance
9,000 Mongolians wipe out SAm Australians
8,200 Copper tools
8,000 End cro-magnon
8,000 1st ag settlements Korea http://infoplease.lycos.com/ipa/A0107686.html
8,000 Cats, humans, mice on Cyprus domesticated from mild
to wild
8,000 Pottery in Jerico THumanRace p17
7,500 Mount Mazama Crater Lake eruption ash layer
7,000 Irrigation
7,000 Copper mining Balkans
7,000 Rice in China, earliest settlements
7,000 Catal Huyuk S. Turkey Stone Age
7,000 Sumerian farming villages
7,000 Corn C. America
6,800 Earliest Egyptian/Badarian culture
6,500 Copper used
6,640 Crater Lake / Mazama explosion C14
6,200 Xia earliest Chinese civilization
6,000 Copper age Europe - 4,400
6,000 Oldest european plow
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-- time before 6,000 impossible- 6-day creationists
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6,000 Sumerians document constellations
6,004 Creation Archbishop Usher
Day 1: light
Day 2: water and sky
Day 3: dry land and plants and trees
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars visible
Day 5: Water and sky creatures
Day 6: land animals, man
Day 7: rest
5,761 Creation according to Hebrew Calendar
5,743 Adam and Eve-2
5,700 Wheel invented probably Sumeria TBTimeline
5,500 Sumer accounts on clay tablets, 1st civilization
5,500 Cities rise on nile
5,500 Cities in Indus Valley
5,500 Farmers use cattle to pull carts in Europe
5,500 Babylon people first settle
5,400 TBT Major flood inundates city of Ur. 8ft layer of
silt found
5,200-4,900 Sumerian flood myth
5,200 Sumerians build Towers (of Babel?)
5,200 Zurich oldest maple wheel
5,050 First Egyptian dynasties
5,000 100M world population
5,000 Sahara expands soil overgrazed
5,000 Assryians use block wheel from Mesopotamia
5,000 Athens first settled in Greece
5,000-6k Wheel invented
5,000 Alps Iceman died with copper axe
5,000 Indus
5,000 Copper, Bronze age
5,000-5,500 Horse bones with evidence of bit
5,000 Sumeria collapses
5,000 Neolithic farming in Europe
5,000 Early Indian civilization
5,000 rise of Hebrew, Semitic languages-1
4,900 Stonehenge I built - ditch posts
4,879 Mythological founding of Vietnam
4,700 silk dicovered in china
4,700 Gilgamesh, King of Uruk in Babylonia.
4,700 Pyramids of Giza
4,600 Indus Valley civilization
4,600 Chinese Calendar started
4,500 North China farming
4,500 Actual Crab Nebula explosion
4,500 Bronze age britain - carts, bridges, forts
4,400 oldest writing on papyrus
4,300 Choson culture in Korea http://infoplease.lycos.com/ipa/A0107686.html
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4,285 TBT Flood comes
4,217 Noah's flood, one language,
one race-2
hydrosphere
contained water in sky
atmosphere
had much more oxygen
oil
created
entire
planet covered by water to highest mtn
all
strata laid down
all
races, species micro-evolve
salt
water oceans
salt
water fish adapt in 1 year
grand
canyon, niagra, mississippi delta forms
complete
ice cap forms
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4,000 Books of old testament are written
4,000 Tower of babel, all languages created
4,000 Gilgamesh written onto tablets
4,000 Malays drive out aborigines from SE Asia
3,850 Abraham journeys to Canaan, the first Jew/Arab
3,700 Jews arrive in Egypt
3,700 Last Mastadons Wrengel Island Siberia
3,600 End of Stonehenge work
3,500 Shang dynasty earliest evidence of dyn
chinese writing developed
3,500 Phoenician alphabet
3,500 Book of Genesis written
3,400 Writing in China on bones
3,400-500 Moses
3,250 Moses leads Israel out of Egypt-1
Ten commandments
3,220-3,200 Joshua invades Canaan-1
3,200 Fall of Jericho-1
3,000 Iron age (THumanRace) Egypt
3,000 Evidence camels domesticated-1
3,000 Written Hebrew-1
3,000 Maya numbers heiroglyphs
2,800 Mesopotamians determined ecliptic
2,800 Greeks adopt phonenician alphabet, add vowels
2,600 Chaldeans exile jews, bible written?
2,500 Ezra assembles books of hebrew bible
2,500 King Nebuchadnezzar II Tower of Babel
2,200 Chinese script resembles 4K old Afghanistan script
2,200 Septuagint Greek translation of hebrew bible
2,000 0 AD Christianity
2,000 Water wheels to mill grain
1,750 250 Ptolemy uses epicycles to explain planet
motion
1,430 570 Muhammed born
1,400 Punctuation / Reading invented
1,200 800 Vikings start raids
1,100 Iron produced
1,000 1054 Crab Nebula explodes
1325 Zenith of Ethiopian
civilization
1492 Columbus sails to New
World
1543 Copenicus dies, put
sun at center
1610 Galileo telescope:
Jupiter moons, phase of venus
1611 King James Bible
210 1788 Hutton sedimentary theory
1700s Herschel proposes
disk like Milky Way
200 1800 Industrial Age
1800 Parallax used to measure
star distance
1800 Earth dated at millions
of years from fossil layers
150 Sumer creation tale translated
1856 Neanderthal man unearthed
141 1859 Darwin proposes evolution
1905 Rutherford theory radioactive
dating
1912 Wegener: Continents
as puzzle pieces
1912 V.M. Slipher: Andromeda
radial velocity measured as extra galactic [4]
87 1913 Wright Bros Powered Aircraft
1915 Einstein General Relativity
set up Big Bang
1918 Sun at edge, not center
of Milky Way
1920 Milky Way is one of
many galaxies
1923 Hubble uses cephid
variable dist to andromeda [4]
1929 Hubble discovers red
shift, expanding universe
70 1930 Computed date of Crab Nebula
Explosion
1946 Gamow says big bang
would result in excess microwave radiation
1947 Carbon Dating
1947 X-1 Supersonic flight
1950 Hoyle coins "Big Bang"
term
50 1950 Mainframe computers
1952 Milky Way is determined
to be spiral
1959 Soviets orbit Sputnik
1965 Penzias, Wilson discover
big bang microwave radiation
1968 Global Plate Tectonics
31 1969 Apollo lands on moon, moon rocks
dated
1969 First internet
1972 Discovery of 3.5mya
hominid footprints
1974 Lucy found 3.5mya skeleton
1980 IBM PC
1987 UCBerkeley researchers
announce 200K Eve
1987 Big bang radiation
likely but not proven yet
5 1995 www web browsing
1998 Neanderthal DNA found
different from moderns
0 2000 40% of US rejects evolution,
big bang, geology, biology
NOW 2001 YOU ARE HERE
FRANKIE LEE
The first Americans walked to the New World across a land bridge that joined Asia and North America between 70,000 and 11,000 years ago. ........
Pure nonsense.
"Tom McCafferty" <burnaby...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3FEA70FB...@hotmail.com...
Tom McCafferty
I guess thats the first time you have read about the land bridge.
Today's native americans are the children of the ones who migrated across that land bridge.
The ones who migrated across there are sometimes called, the Ice Age people. Todays Native Americans have been called, Indians,
If the Great Flood drowned everyone accept the ones in the Ark, there would be no inhabitants when Europeans discovered America.
Today's Indians decended from the Ice Age people. That connection has
never been broken, not even by the Great Flood.
FRANKIE LEE wrote:
Hi Tom,There is big error in your speculations. You said"
The first Americans walked to the New World across a land bridge that joined Asia and North America between 70,000 and 11,000 years ago. ........
Pure nonsense.
"Tom McCafferty" <burnaby...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3FEA70FB...@hotmail.com...
FRANKIE LEE wrote:
"Tom McCafferty" <burnaby...@hotmail.com> wrote in messageBelow was taken from: http://whyfiles.org/061polar/anthro.html
news:3FE88BE0...@hotmail.com...
> During Noah's Flood, why did not the Native Americans drown? How do you
> think they got to North America?
>
replies: The entire world was drowned,except the Ark and its residence.
How did the Native got to America from which area and place, I do not know.
During the last ice age, the exposed ocean floor between Siberia and North America made a perfect migration path to the New World.
50K Limit of Carbon dating, dating gap.
Any living thing with less C14 is older than 50K yrs.
50K Meteor Crater Arizona <-----The Great Flood would have filled that in.
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1492 Columbus sails to New World
1543 Copenicus dies, put sun at center
1610 Galileo telescope: Jupiter moons, phase of venus
1611 King James Bible
2000 40% of US rejects evolution, big bang, geology, biology
NOW 2003 YOU ARE HERE