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WHITE Christianity and the WHITE "Jesus Seminar" vs. the Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"

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28SW2 (Michael Cecil)

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Most of the people who are suppressing the Truth about the
Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"
(see:

http://www.geocities.com:80/Athens/Rhodes/7031/deadsea.html

) are WHITE.

Pat Robertson, of the Christian Broadcasting Network, is
WHITE (Although I cannot PROVE that he read an earlier
version of the manuscript on my web page which I mailed
to CBN in early January, 1999.)

Hershel Shanks, the editor of the "Biblical Archaeology Re-
view", is WHITE (although, of course, I cannot PROVE that
he ever read the letters that I sent to "BAR".)

Most of the researchers on the Dead Sea Scrolls were and are,
as I understand it, WHITE.

Ted Koppel, of ABC News "Nightline", is WHITE (although, of
course, I cannot PROVE that he ever read the letters--but
I do have his signature on a return receipt--that I sent
to him in 1987.)

The two or three editors of "Christianity Today" whom I
have written to over the past 20 years were WHITE.

The former president and the former chairman of the depart-
ment of theology at the University of Notre Dame were WHITE.

And, as I recall, when I addressed the "Jesus Seminar" at
the University of Notre Dame in 1987, everyone in the room
was WHITE.

EVERYONE.

So the question needs to be asked:

Is the denial, contradiction, disinterpretation and censor-
ship of the Truth about the Revelation and Doctrine of the
"resurrection of the dead" a symptom of white RACISM?

Is the disinterpretation of the Revelation and Doctrine of
the "resurrection of the dead"--and, specifically, the denial
of even the possibility that Mohammed was Elijah and John the
Baptist 'raised from the dead'--a white SUPREMACIST doctrine?

Now, as previously stated, Jesus was murdered NOT because
of any doctrine of 'vicarious atonement', but because his
Knowledge of the "resurrection of the dead" threatened the
POWER of the Sadducees and Pharisees. And my research on
the Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"
constitutes precisely the SAME kind of threat to, for exam-
ple, the "Jesus Seminar".

And, while this can very easily be looked upon as nothing more
than a power struggle, something MUCH more sinister emerges
when the subject of RACE is considered.

In the United States, for example, WHITE skin color is the
skin color of power and wealth.

But one of the consequences of the Revelation and Doctrine
of the "resurrection of the dead", is that skin color--and
the power which accrues on the basis of skin color--is not
a given: A person born with a white skin in this life may
very well be born as a darker-skinned person or an oriental
in a future life; even *worse*, a person with a white skin
in this life may very well have been tortured or killed as
a result of his skin color in a previous life.

Thus, to the ears of a WHITE Ph.D. theologian, the Truth
about the "resurrection of the dead" is a DOUBLE threat:
First, it is an *immediate* threat to his power in this life;
but, secondly, it also impresses upon him that he may very
well NOT have, in a future life, the power associated with
his WHITE skin color in this life. And this, of course, raises
a whole series of issues about the historical relationship
between the white race and the other races on this planet--
or, in a not insignificant number of cases, might very well
trigger deep and dark memories of horror, just beyond the
range of consciousness, of experiences in previous lives in
which he did not have a white skin. (Thus, the denial of
the Truth about the "resurrection of the dead" may very
well be a psychological *necessity* for such an individual.)

Now, according to the Koran, God Created man out of "BLACK
moulded loam". (And, of course, there are black racists who
have developed this Revelation into the "white devil" theory.)
In other words, Adam--Created with the consciousness of the
Knowledge of Truth; the consciousness which was lost through
"the Fall", resulting in the normal human consciousness--was
a BLACK man.

Thus, in addition to the difficulties already mentioned, there
is also the question of whether, to the ears of a WHITE Pd.D.
theologian or religious official, it is THIS Revelation in the
Koran which is so INTENSELY offensive and which, thus, PROVES
that Mohammed could NOT have been Elijah and John the Baptist
'raised from the dead'; and, thus, that Islam is EVIL. (Are
you listening, Pat Robertson? Probably not.)

But the issue is, of course, even *more* complicated than
this. Take, for example, the First Seal of the Revelation
of John...

What IMAGE do you have of the COLOR of his skin? (It is the
HORSE, by the way, which is white.)

As previously stated, the rider on the white horse is a bow-
man and signifies Ishmael (cf. Genesis 21:20). But Hagar was
BLACK (Do you *fully* understand, by the way, that, if Abraham
were 'raised from the dead' today, he may very well be able to
say that he REMEMBERS that Hagar was BLACK? that he might very
well use the word REMEMBER in precisely the same way that you
say that you REMEMBER what your wife or husband looks like?);
thus, it is just less than an absolute CERTAINTY that the rider
on the white horse in the First Seal of the Revelation of John
is BLACK. (And, if this is OFFENSIVE to you, then human civiliza-
tion is in DEEP trouble.)

I would argue, of course, that Paul's Greek pagan metaphysical-
ization of the Teaching of Jesus and disinterpretation of the
Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead" is,
in fact, the "white-ification" of the Teaching of Jesus...

And I strongly urge the WHITE religious and media officials in
the United States to consider more *carefully* the long-term
consequences of continuing to suppress the Truth about the
Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"...
of continuing to suppress *precisely* that Truth which can
also lead to the resolution of racial conflicts on this planet.

Michael Cecil (


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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:41:19 -0500, "28SW2 (Michael Cecil)"
<mijt...@cyberlink.com> wrote:

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Your carnal mind is instigating racial hatred again I see Michael.

If you knew of the matters of God you would know "White" refers to
purity of spirit. It does not refer to the color of the skin of the
physical body.

Your attempts to incite racial prejudice in and by your personal
hatred is easily seen.

Understand this word.


What does it mean, to "return to God?"

What does it mean, to "come to God?"

Does this pertain to reality?

Is God real?

From the religions come many teachings and doctrines on these matters,
creating many differing beliefs in their followers.

Salvation in and by the Living God is a simple matter, easily
understood.

First, man must believe "Adam" was real.

If man is able to conceive the reality of Adam; and the reality of
God; he is able to conceive the reality of what is called "salvation"
of God.

The "way" in and by which man is saved by the Living God is for man to
submit to a reversal process.

It is for man to allow the undoing of what was done to "Adam."

This reversal is what is meant by the word "repent."

It is to turn back.

Because of false religious doctrine, man does not see "what" happened
to Adam which caused his spiritual death; which caused his separation
from God.

Spiritual life from God came to Adam from God. Period.

God created Adam as a spiritual creation in man, in His own image and
likeness, which is Spirit. God enlightened man with His Truth which is
called "Light."

The loss of this Light caused the spiritual death of Adam; caused Adam
to be dead to the Spirit from God for the Spirit left Adam with the
Light. Adam replaced the Light with darkness.

To be saved by the Living God is by allowing God to replace the
darkness in the mind of man with His Light.

In more simple terms, this way or procedure, is to allow the Living
God to replace what man has been taught and has stored in his mind,
with the Truth from God, which gives man knowledge and undertanding of
"life" and how man may live this life. It is a way of life lived in
obedience to the principles of God.

The sons of darkness are mankind who is without the Light of God;
without the Holy Spirit from God.

The Sons of Light are mankind who is without the darkness of man;
without the evil spirit.

False religious doctrine has taught man to believe religion is God and
religious doctrine enlightens man with the Light of God.

A very simple fool may see the acts and works of religious leaders and
followers and see they do not present an image of the Living God whose
first great principle is love for others.

From this vision, comes the understanding, religions are not God
though they have set themselves up in the place of God as God.

In opposition to the religions of man, God has raised up prophets and
His Sons to deliver His Word to mankind in which He has condemned the
religions and ways of the religions.

The followers of the religions responded with anger and hatred, and as
scripture conveys, murdered these of God by their hatred of any who
oppose their beliefs.

In this day the same anger and hatred comes from religious minded
people toward any who oppose their beliefs.

When Truth is spoken by any who possesses the Light of God, man
refuses to open his eyes and see what exists in reality which the
darkness has hidden from him. He has been taught to do this by his
religious teachers.

All who are truly of God, His Light to this world of darkness, teach
man of the one and only Teacher who teaches Truth; who enlightens man
with His Light; the Living God.

Though the heads and leaders of darkness will confess God does give
man Truth; does inspire man with His Word; they declare God does not
do this in this day, but they have possessed the Light and have handed
down this Light through the generations. They declare they are the
guardians of the Light; the only ones authorized to speak a word and
say it is the Light of God.

Again we call upon the simple minded man to judge this matter. What
the simple minded man sees and declares is the religions all have a
different word and belief they call the Light. This simple minded man
says he would be forced to choose from the many doctrines and
teachings as to which one; if any; have the Light.

But he says, he cannot do this.

Because he does not know what the Light is, how is he able to identify
it?

Would it not require knowledge of Light in order to identify Light and
choose which word is Light? Would he not be required to know the Light
in order to recognize it and identify it?

But the religions declare no other way for man to receive the Light
other than by them.

The religions declare God cannot be asked for His Light. They declare
man cannot receive this Light from the Living God.

So what do you say; is it religion or God who gives His Light to
mankind? Is it God or religions of man who give truth to mankind?

Ah, you say, He has written a book which is His Word which is His
Truth.

Really.

So the way of salvation, as you understand it, is for man to either
determine for himself by his own mind what scriptures say, or allow
another one of man to teach him, and this is how God saves mankind.

So, you say, it is not to follow the way taught by Jesus of Nazareth
who taught his followers to ask the Living God and whosoever asked
would receive from the Living God.

So you say, the very scriptures, you say is the Word and Truth of God,
conveys the words attributed to those who followed the way Jesus
taught and declare being taught by the Living God and not man.

And your answer is simple. You have submitted your mind to the heads
and teachers of your religion who have filled your mind with what you
profess to believe.

You have believed these are appointed by God; are authorized by God to
stand in His place as teacher of the Truth of God.

Jesus of Nazareth declared he was this Light, who came to shed Light
on the matters of God. The apostles are to be seen as this same Light
who also shed Light on the matters of God.

I do not see in the book you worship and adore, where Jesus or the
apostles; Sons of God; taught or told man to submit his mind to the
religions and ignore the Living God; ignore the promise of God; ignore
asking the Living God for what they professed to have received from
the Living God; His Light; His Holy Spirit; His works of salvation;
which they declared they knew of, having received these works of God
directly from the Living God.

So it is I ask; are the religions able to create the Creation of God?

Are the religions God?

Is salvation by the works of religion or the works of God?

What does your book of writings say; the book which you have been
taught to honor as God; as the Word of God?

Have you not yet understood the Sons of Light are now sent to destroy
the mind and spirit created by the religions which has created the
sons of darkness; the prince created by darkness?

We are the bright and morning stars who herald the great coming of the
great Light which is the Living God.

It is a wise man who opens his eyes of undersatnding to see what is
illuminated by our Light. In and by this, man may see the way to the
Living God in order to receive His Light which is the only salvation
for mankind from the darkness.

Man confesses he is in the dark in regards to the matters of God;
confesses he does not know of these matters. He confesses what he has
been led to believe.

Do you not understand foolish man, the Living God is able to cause you
to know and understand these matters so you do not remain in the
darkness which is spiritual death? Do you not understand it is this
darkness which causes spiritual death as Adam died when he replaced
the Light from God with the darkened counsel of man?

Do you not understand the Living God is pouring out His Holy Spirit on
mankind as Living Water is poured? Do you not yet understand you must
learn to receive this from the Living God in order to be saved by
these works of God?

As long as your mind is held in the darkened counsel of those who have
no Light, your mind is closed to the Living God and you cannot receive
from God. Your unbelief in this Truth causes you to remain in
spiritual death for you are the unbeliever scripture speaks of. You
have placed your belief and faith in religious doctrine instead of the
Living God.

All who believed the word and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, did as
he taught; did seek the Living God by way of spirit; did ask and
receive from the Living God, His works of salvation.

And what word and way do you follow as the way of salvation?

Because of the false christs; those saying they possess the Light of
God and are liars; you cannot understand the real and true Christ
exists. Yet you bow down to the antichrists who have taught you to not
believe in the way of Christ; the way of being anointed and taught
Truth by the Living God.

Who then is your father? Who then has been your teacher? Who then has
created your mind to be as it is? Whose word dwells in your mind?

Have you not done as Adam? Have you not preferred the word of man over
the Living Word from the Living God?

Babylon represents the creation of the religions.

Jerusalem represents the Creation of God.

Both are "daughters" or "cities" for man to dwell in, in his mind and
spirit for what exists there is either of God or man.

The "streets" and "houses" are dwelling places for the mind of man.

A word to the wise is simple. Come out of her; Babylon; and endure the
cross over the Jerusalem where God dwells. By coming over to be with
God, you become the overcomer.

The way is seen by the Light from God. In and by this; the Holy Spirit
of God; you are led to Him and His righteousness.

All who are led by this Spirit of God are the Sons of God. These have
renounced their sonship with the father of lies and have come to
adoption as a son by the Living God.

To this Son comes Jerusalem from above, to which man is joined, which
becomes the promised land to dwell in; to dwell in peace. love, and
joy in this city of peace; this city which is the daughter of Zion;
which is the Holy mountain of God.

I am leaving this group for awhile. I ask you to think on these
matters and if any lacks understanding of what my word portrays, let
him do as James declared and ask of God for understanding.

James spoke of existing reality. So do I.

Heritage Media

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Sep 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/24/99
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You must me PURPLE

You racist jerk

poncho

Rev. Donald Spitz

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Maybe you can join these "black pastors" at their "ALL BLACK EVENT."
Suppose white pastors had a march for life for white babies only, and
call it an all
white event. They would be the first one screaming racism as they love
to do.

NEWARK, N.J., Sept. 21 /PRNewswire/ -- "If you love babies, then 'SAY
SO,'" said
12 black pastors in New Jersey today as they announced their three- day
'Say So'
march of 1,452 African-Americans marching from Newark, NJ, to
Washington, DC,
October 9-11. The march, an all black event, is designed to speak to the
black
communities of America on behalf of their estimated 1,452 children
aborted every
day in the United States.
-
Mark 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him
which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
http://www.ArmyOfGod.com


Heritage Media wrote:

-

Ryan C. Hamilton

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Hello, all
28SW2 (Michael Cecil) wrote in message <37EB554F...@cyberlink.com>...

>Most of the people who are suppressing the Truth about the
>Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"
>(see:
>
>http://www.geocities.com:80/Athens/Rhodes/7031/deadsea.html
>
>) are WHITE.
(snipped to save what little sanity we have left)

Yes, but what about TD Jakes? Nee Watchman? George Washington Carver?
Black, Oriental, Black.
Quoting the song Jesus Loves the little Children: Red and Yellow, Black and
White, they are precious in His sight.

God Bless,
Ryan C. Hamilton
http://www.tssys.com/eldrick/

28SW2 (Michael Cecil)

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Ryan C. Hamilton wrote:

> Quoting the song Jesus Loves the little Children:

Well, perhaps, Jesus DID when he was alive

> Red and Yellow, Black and
> White, they are precious in His sight.

It is Christianity that doesn't--unless, of course, they are potential
CONTIBUTORS of MONEY.

Micheal Cecil (

28SW2 (Michael Cecil)

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:

> Maybe you can join these "black pastors" at their "ALL BLACK EVENT."

Don't you understand what I am saying here?

I am talking about the importance of black THOUGHTS.

Do you know what I mean by this?

Not the thoughts of the rich and privileged. The thoughts of those without
power.

I would still insist that Islam is much more color-blind than is
Christianity.

I simply do NOT think it nothing more than a coincidence that, according
to the Koran, Adam was black.

How many times have you heard a Christian minister say this?

Of course, their STATED rationale is that Mohammed was NOT a prophet.

But on what GROUNDS have they made this conclusion--especially when there
is something in the Acts of the Apostles which avers that things do not
succeed
unless God is with them (said in defense of the early 'Christian' community)

If Islam has hundreds of millions of followers, it must be because there is
SOME
Truth in it.

And, yes, there is also SOME Truth in Buddhism and Hinduism.

Michael Cecil (

28SW2 (Michael Cecil)

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Heritage Media wrote:

> You racist jerk

You know, this is really pathetic.

Merely pointing out the evil leads to being *accused* of the evil which
is being pointed out.

Calling the fire department when you discover a building is on fire--
a building which has been burning for HOURS--and then being
accused of starting the fire.

You really need to be more careful in what you accuse others of.

At some point they may no longer want to risk warning you anymore.

Michael Cecil (


Jerry Martin

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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This is the silliest brain dead post I have ever seen on internet.
JM

28SW2 (Michael Cecil) wrote in message <37EB554F...@cyberlink.com>...

28SW2 (Michael Cecil)

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Jerry Martin wrote:

> This is the silliest brain dead post I have ever seen on internet.
> JM

Why, THANK YOU....

WHITE BOY.

Michael Cecil (


Michael Dean

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Don't pay any attention to the following very long post. He's not iterested in
white or black anything.....he just wants everyone to know he's written letters
to people in media and that he spoke at a seminar. He's self-gloriflying,
that's all........taking up n.g. space to do so--because he can. P.

Reuven Singer

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Most of the people who reject this nonsense also drink water every day and
eat bread periodically. Thus it is clear that water drinkers and bread
eaters are in a conspiracy to suppress this bizarre nonsense. But go ahead,
the Internet is clearly the place for nuts like you.

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