>The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
I've always maintained that the pope was a nazi. How right I was.
If I were craptolic, I'd be real proud that a former member of Hitler Youth
is now the leader of my religion.
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aa #2133
ap #19
>The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
May he allow your children to be molested.
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>If I were craptolic, I'd be real proud that a former member of Hitler Youth
>is now the leader of my religion.
This is what happens in a theocracy. The least threatening and most
status quo conservatives get put in office.
> The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
> selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
> May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
A man who swore his allegiance to Hitler! The voice of god on
earth now comes from the mouth of a Hitler Youth!
Anyone wanting proof that christianity is morally bankrupt,
completely wicked, and evil now has it.
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Interestingly, a quick search on Wikipedia shows that the last few
popes to be called Benedict were known as fairly reformist. I wonder
if that's the signal Ratzinger is trying to send with his choice of
papal name?
Jon.
aa #703
On 19 Apr 2005 10:10:14 -0700 in alt.atheism, Jon. ("Jon."
<jd_w...@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
They were wondering about that on BBC News 24. Personally I think it'd
be a miracle if that turns out to be the case....
B C.
> Interestingly, a quick search on Wikipedia shows that the last few
> popes to be called Benedict were known as fairly reformist. I wonder
> if that's the signal Ratzinger is trying to send with his choice of
> papal name?
Yes, in precisely the same sense that George W. Bush repeatedly
said he wanted to be a uniter, not a divider.
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Well, this old man has it all to damage the RCC beyond repair. So I'm
all for his election ;)
RS
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." St Jerome (420 AD)
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Amen.
DEO GRATIAS!
> The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
> selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
> May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
Cardinal Ratzinger was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith, aka the Inquisition. He played a significant role in the suppression
of Liberation Theology and the silencing of theologian Hans Kung. Many
American Catholics have written off the Vatican as hopelessly out of touch,
and I don't think they see this election as any kind of encouraging sign.
Oh yes, and Cardinal Ratzinger is a big fat idiot, and you're a mindless
tool, IBen.
Don't be silly; those people never learn. I remember the first (in my
lifetime) massive child-molestation scandal. Everyone said that the
church would have to change after that. Lo and behold, less than 20
years later, it happens again and everyone acts surprised. It doesn't
matter what this guys does to the faithful. They are the poverbial
"some people" who "you can fool all the time".
jwk
A friend of mine's dad was in it as well as it was compulsory. It wasn't
something he believe in, but you were persecuted if you didn't join.
However, his grandfather was also a Nazi doctor - urk :P
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I am thrilled to see him become pope!
Habemus papam!
God bless,
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> Lars Eighner wrote:
>>> In our last episode,
>>> <1113929537.4...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>>> the lovely and talented J Young
>>> broadcast on alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>> The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>>>> selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>>>> May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
>>>
>>> A man who swore his allegiance to Hitler! The voice of god on
>>> earth now comes from the mouth of a Hitler Youth!
>>>
>>> Anyone wanting proof that christianity is morally bankrupt,
>>> completely wicked, and evil now has it.
>>>
>>>
> Wrong. The organization was sort of a girl guides boy scouts sort of thing
> and half the kids in Germany at the time were stuck into it by their
> parents. Whether he was or was not is irrelevant.
> What is relevant is why you are seeking to harm or destroy the Catholic
> Church?
Because the catholic church is bent on destroying my people.
> Why do you want to smear Pope Benedict XVI?
Where's the smear? He swore his allegiance to Hitler. That's a
fact, not a smear.
> What do you think a Christian is and why?
A christian is an evil person who wants to impose his own will
on others by claiming his own will is god's will. I think that
because I observe the actions of christians.
> Are you Christian?
Of course not. I know there is a difference between right and
wrong.
> Do you know what repentance is?
It is when you are sorry for something. For example, if the
catholic church were sorry for supporting Hitler and the
destruction of European Jews, it would not now elect a Nazi
pope.
> Do you know the significance of Jesus' ministry?
About the same as all other myths and fairy tales.
Today the catholic church proved it was not based on
divinely-inspired teachings. If it were, it could not be so
corrupt as to elect a Nazi to be the voice of god on earth.
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One, two, three, four,
We don't want your daddy's war!
Just another Nazi Bastard.
Were you buggered as a child??
>
> Carlque
> "I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the
> enemies
> of the Church should also be my enemies." St Jerome (420 AD)
>
> <bernard...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1113931307....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> He was also Head of the Inquisition.
>>
>> B C.
>>
>
>
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he was never a Nazi. He was like million of other german youth in the hilter
youth http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/hitler_youth.htm
http://www.newint.org/issue327/worldbeaters.htm
Though he may be next in line for St Peter's throne, Joe Ratzinger is no
spring chicken. He was born in Bavaria in 1927 so is only six years younger
than John Paul II. However, he shows few signs of slowing down. He has been
the Vatican's top doctrinal officer since 1981 and is a recondite
intellectual, fluent in four languages. His intellectual searching began as
a seminarian in Nazi Germany where he rounded out the experience with a
brief fling in the Hitler Youth, though he was never a member of the Nazi
Party. He was later conscripted into the German Army from which he
eventually deserted before ending the war as an American POW.
I hope he emulates Pope Benedict XV who ended the purges and dissolved
the spy networks that had been unleashed by Cardinal Merry del Val
under Pius X. DR
> Yes, in precisely the same sense that George W. Bush repeatedly
> said he wanted to be a uniter, not a divider.
In a recent survey, 50% of Americans throught that GW had been
"a uniter," and 50% thought he had been "a divider."
It doesn't get much more stark than that.
Elf
Referring to Ratzinger as "very gentle" is like calling Hitler a nice guy.
He was an enforcer, a bully, non-inclusive, closed-minded, confrontational,
and a bigot. This is a sad day for Catholics and the world.
I'm not sad....and I'm Catholic
According to those who've studied his writings from his pre-Vatican years,
his theology was quite liberal. As Prefect for the Congregation of Faith,
he had a duty to do and he did it. I think we need to take a 'wait and see'
approach to his papacy.
Gabby
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He was just following orders?
>I think we need to take a 'wait and see' approach to his papacy.
Certainly. BBC News said he was a bit of a liberal when he taught at
university, but changed somewhat after he got caught up in the student
riots. Heh, what's that definition of a conservative? A liberal who's
been mugged!
>The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
And you posted this to alt.atheism because...?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Certainly the young Polish Deacon at our church was rejoicing
Gabby
Enjoy wearing your brown shirts and arm bands as members of the RATZI
Party. RATZI will make sure there's a lot of goosestepping at the
Vatican while the Badenweiler March plays in the background.
If Hitler were alive today, he'd be jumping for joy for RATZI's
appointment as Pope Benedict(Arnold) XVI.
This is yet another nail in the coffin of the Church.
Vast Left Wing Conspiracy
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> J Young wrote:
>
> >The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
> >selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
> >May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
>
> And you posted this to alt.atheism because...?
Because he is a nit wit.
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>>
>>According to those who've studied his writings from his pre-Vatican years,
>>his theology was quite liberal. As Prefect for the Congregation of
>>Faith,
>>he had a duty to do and he did it.
>
> He was just following orders?
No, he was supporting the doctrine that the Church has been teaching for
centuries and which is not likely to change.
>
>>I think we need to take a 'wait and see' approach to his papacy.
>
> Certainly. BBC News said he was a bit of a liberal when he taught at
> university, but changed somewhat after he got caught up in the student
> riots. Heh, what's that definition of a conservative? A liberal who's
> been mugged!
Those who thought that the Church would suddenly approve abortion & birth
control or that suddenly seminary doors would be thrown wide open for women
if another pope had been elected were dreaming in Technicolor. I don't
really think it's going to affect our lives in North America since our
priests do pretty much what they like and Rome be damned. That's not likely
to change no matter who's pope.
Gabby
You're too kind ;)
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He'll act in good faith to keep the traditions of the church. Not to be
confused in any way with truth.
Buddy Love
I'm really happy ... and I'm Catholic too :->
> Lars Eighner <eig...@io.com> wrote in message news:<slrnd6aepu...@goodwill.io.com>...
>> In our last episode,
>> <1113929537.4...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>> the lovely and talented J Young
>> broadcast on alt.atheism:
>>
>> > The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>> > selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>> > May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
>>
>> A man who swore his allegiance to Hitler! The voice of god on
>> earth now comes from the mouth of a Hitler Youth!
>>
>> Anyone wanting proof that christianity is morally bankrupt,
>> completely wicked, and evil now has it.
> 78 years old!!!!!! they have got to be kidding, he will only last 5
> minutes, then we will have to go through this whole fucking
> incredibally boring dead pope crap again, what about a teenage pope?
It's been tried. It didn't end well.
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that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
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To be an annoying cunt, of course!
> However, his grandfather was also a Nazi doctor - urk :P
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I wonder how Nazi doctor measures up to "Bride of Satan". LOL!!!!!
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Yes, and you may well be the next Pope as well!
>78 years old!!!!!! they have got to be kidding, he will only last 5
>minutes, then we will have to go through this whole fucking
>incredibally boring dead pope crap again, what about a teenage pope?
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Pope+Benedict+IX
Benedict IX was either 11, 12, or 20 depending on the source, when
made Pope.
> J Young wrote:
>
>>The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>>selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI. May
>>he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
>
> And you posted this to alt.atheism because...?
He's a trolling asshole?
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Yes, a little baptist was nice enough to bestow that title ;)
As an atheist I am very pleased they have appointed another arch
conservative as Pope.
If they had elected a more liberal man who might bring the church into
more progressive ways it would make the choice between staying with
the church or abandoning it less clear.
The more reactionary and out of touch with modern thought the church
is, the speedier will be its eventual death.
The last thing I or any other enemy of the church would want is a
church that adapts and changes with the times - such a church would
linger longer and the world suffer longer because of it.
I wish with all my heart and mind for a world free of the church.
I will not live to see it's demise - but I can hope to have the joy of
seeing it move into it's terminal decline.
You may say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one.
Peace, Mark.
If you believe in "seperation of church and state," then why are you
commenting on what the Church does? I guess you believe that your
seperation rule should work only one way. You can interfer with
religion, but don't let anyone of religion interfer with your statist
plans.
Cite a credible reference for this false assertion of yours.
Does satan ever answer any of your prayers?
Why should the Catholic Church want to be like every other depraved
institution in the world? "Non-inclusive!" It is the children of
perdition who exclude themselves by their conduct.
Wrong! The correct answer is that ALL Catholics are very happy today.
The children of satan will continue to whine!
In article <1113944901.7...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
vastleftwin...@hotmail.com says...
>The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
Let us pray....
OH LORD! Heavenly father, please give the new pope the strength to
protect the priesthood from prosecution. Show them the way to new
parishes and transfers to cushy jobs. As a total piece of shit, not
worthy of life, do this for me. Amen.
Warlord Steve
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>
> Well, this old man has it all to damage the RCC beyond repair. So I'm
> all for his election ;)
If it survived Vatican II, it can survive anything.
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Just return the favor someday!
Because most christian sects want to omit the separation and work openly
towards that goal. They actively work towards passing civil laws that oppose
anything they don't believe in.
History and faith based countries today shows what happens when they gain
power.
In the christian world in Calvin's time you could be an example of the best
christian in the village for your beliefs and burned at the stake for them
one town over.
>If you believe in "seperation of church and state," then why are you
>commenting on what the Church does? I guess you believe that your
>seperation rule should work only one way. You can interfer with
>religion, but don't let anyone of religion interfer with your statist
>plans.
1. I doubt the original poster is in control of the US Government, or
the Governor of any state. So whinging about church and state in this
case is silly.
2. How is commenting interfereing? We are discussing (across several
forums) an event of international interest. Since the troll who
started this thread chose to include alt.atheism, some of this
commentary is going to be negative.
On 19 Apr 2005 09:52:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com>
wrote:
>The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
>selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
>May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
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>If you believe in "seperation of church and state," then why are you
>commenting on what the Church does? I guess you believe that your
>seperation rule should work only one way. You can interfer with
>religion, but don't let anyone of religion interfer with your statist
>plans.
I was talking about the vatican, which is clearly a theocracy.
That aside, I suggest you read your constitution.
>Irrelevent whether he was or was not a member .. they stuck half the kids in
>Germany into that organization at the time .. it doesn't really reflect on
>his personal beliefs. A friend of mine was in Hilter Youth and she's not a
>Nazi at all and is actually ashamed that Germany was ever lead by the Nazis.
Sure she is. After the fact.
>
The RCC is over 1 billion strong world wide. No one papacy can bring
it's downfall. This church is and always will be about Christ and his
teachings, not homo priests and lawsuits. The RCC will be just fine .
But it's declining nonetheless.
> This church is and always will be about Christ and his
>teachings, not homo priests and lawsuits.
The church is and has always been about preserving the church.
Christ and His teachings are of secondary concern.
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Reference?
>Yes, let's pick the creepiest looking dude as the next Pope. That'll
>show 'em!
>
I thought I was the only one who noticed the resemblance!!! Hell, I
was humming the "Imperial March" as he stepped out onto the balcony
for his first Papal appearance.
As well as being Head of the Inquisition he is also a liar.
.B C.
Latin Americans are converting to Evangelistic Protestantism.
Our new 78 year old Pope will hasten the decline and fall of the RCC.
Especially as his Nazi youth led him on to be Head of the Inquisition.
Not quite the same as the Borgia popes but just as scandalous to
christians. His views on plastics technology would be a sick joke
except that they condemn millions to a painful death.
Pro-life? He will be castrating altar boys next. That will improve
their asset value to very male-oriented church.
B C.
Satan answers prayers as often as a god does.
The difference being that the god *promised* to grant anything asked in his
name and told his followers that if they believed they could move mountains.
Perhaps it was another mistranslations and the movements referred to were
bowel.
Odd, the ones I worked with today were not all that pleased. The person who
made the announcement said Heil Hitler and they knew immediately he was
talking about a new pope. Neither their reactions, nor their comments
indicated any particular happiness.
I saw the photo on yahoo! news and I was humming the Imperial March,
which of course is a misnomer since the Imeprical March is reserved
for Darth Vader.
Apparently a lot of people have independently made this observation,
judging by blog comments...
All we need now is to get the Swiss Guards to show up in red robes
holding giant cattle prods...
The RCC appears to have been blessed with just exactly the person it
deserves.
In spades.
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> The Catholic Church, indeed the world, has been blessed with the
> selection of Bishop Ratzinger as the new pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI.
> May he be as wise a man, and as worthy a man, as Pope John Paul II.
Why didn't he stick with "Pope Joseph"?
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>On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:57:21 GMT, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:17:18 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
>>Cocaine Snorting Ass" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, let's pick the creepiest looking dude as the next Pope. That'll
>>>show 'em!
>>>
>>
>>I thought I was the only one who noticed the resemblance!!! Hell, I
>>was humming the "Imperial March" as he stepped out onto the balcony
>>for his first Papal appearance.
>
>I saw the photo on yahoo! news and I was humming the Imperial March,
>which of course is a misnomer since the Imeprical March is reserved
>for Darth Vader.
And Dick Cheney.
>Apparently a lot of people have independently made this observation,
>judging by blog comments...
>
>All we need now is to get the Swiss Guards to show up in red robes
>holding giant cattle prods...
Oddly enough, I always thought of the red-robed guards from Episode 6
as Cardinals even when it first came out. Heck, even Luke was dressed
up in what for all intents and purposes was a priest's collar, for
cryin' out loud!
Er, a liar or just an ignoramus?
Susan
How nice of you to judge someone you do not know, and contradict someone who
does know her.
Susan
You mean Pope Palpatine I?
Have you noticed the similarity between Cardinal Natzinger and Chancellor
Palpatine in both his looks and the things he says?
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Pope!
I wasn't aware that Vatican City had a separation of church and state.
He is using the Church's punblic behavior to judge by.
That's all the reference he needs.
However, I do not think that Ratzinger ever was a Nazi.
*But*, his attitudes towards Jews/Judaism leave a *lot* to be desired.
Susan
If you have to ask, you have no business haraguing him about it.
Do you know what repentance is? Do
> you know the significance of Jesus' ministry?
>
Do you know that this post is not only off-topic, but offensive to at least
2 of the groups to which you sent it?
Susan
It is a long-standing tradition (by now, anyway) for a pope to pick a
"regnal" name, as it were, with a meaning-by-reference to the life of the
person with the same name.
Susan
The fact that this was spammed to scj & a.a. rather proves it.
Susan
No need for rudeness. It's not nice.
No need to be rude. It's not nice.
Please explain why you consider yourself qualified to speak for ALL
Catholics. Anytime you're ready.
> The children of satan will continue to whine!
Hey! You leave my kids out of it!
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You don't thinking hiding pedophile priests is depraved?
What the hell is a "statist"?
If you don't want the Poop bashed, don't pot your screed to alt
atheism. Assholes.
jwk
> keithw <kei...@notospam.org> wrote in message
>> Below is another example of a statist
> What the hell is a "statist"?
A statistician in the making?
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That is what you posted, right ring kisser? Are you now trying to
change your tune?
Oh, that's right, being rude is a requirement for the Kathylick Krutch,
as long as it's Kathylicks, being rude to others. But it's not allowed
in the other direction.
Well, being politically incorrect here, ain't that just to fucking bad
for you.
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