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Mitchell Holman
May 25, 2012, 8:31:04 AM5/25/12
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Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
May 24, 2012
One measure of the decline of church strength and
authority is church membership and attendance. And
by that measure, US secularity is rising to surprising
heights.
In recent decades, many denominations have seen slow
declines in attendance and membership, declines
impossible to hide. Fairly honest reporting of that
data is necessary to prevent denominational leaders
from fooling themselves. Churches don't regard people
showing up just a few times a year as real church-goers,
and they search for ways to convert them into regular
members. Just keeping people in the pews is a full-time
job in itself for plenty of congregations.
The March 2012 Gallup poll on religious behavior in the
United States exposes how lots of people are avoiding
church. As Gallup reports, "32 percent of Americans are
nonreligious, based on their statement that religion is
not an important part of their daily life and that they
seldom or never attend religious services."
About a third of Americans now report that they seldom
or never go to a religious house of worship. That's a
huge number of people avoiding church-going. But keep in
mind, this poll does say that 68 percent of Americans
claim that they do occasionally attend services. How
valid is that figure? Actually, even fewer people are
real church-goers.
The churches' own membership lists reflect how at least
three-quarters of Americans aren't showing up to church
much at all. A bare majority of Americans are not connected
with any religious congregation, and an even larger majority
are hardly ever showing up in any house of worship. There's
plenty of other sorts of religious activities and spiritual
experiences to pursue, of course. Abandoning church is not
the same thing as leaving the religious life. All the same,
church-goers have become a minority in America.
http://tinyurl.com/bq2pd63
Mike Painter
May 25, 2012, 1:22:32 PM5/25/12
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Second time since about 1957 when it was not for business purposes (I
worked for a mortician and frequently moved flowers from a church to
graveside)
Last time was a religious wedding and this time was for a graduation.
It was secular and I was rather amazed that no one offered a prayer.
Cool place as it is a huge geodesic dome, looking much like a gold
plated golf ball.
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3006 Dead
May 26, 2012, 1:00:14 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie Ventura
> pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth
> !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of religion
> most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
> and avoid 'churches'.
Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie Ventura
> pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth
> !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of religion
> most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
> and avoid 'churches'.
Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
Mike Painter
May 26, 2012, 1:31:04 AM5/26/12
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>> Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
>
>
>
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
>
And in later life, once he had power, he said:
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
>
"I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even the
angels. He who does not receive my doctrine cannot be saved"
-- Martin Luther Werke (Erlangen),XXIX , 217-33, on Maritian, 15.
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R.Measures
May 26, 2012, 6:29:58 AM5/26/12
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In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
publically against religious autorities. The religious authorities
managed to have him executed but his words live on.
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in
the midst of them"
- - - [Matthew 18:20]
"My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy,
mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from
a church as you can."
-- Frank Zappa
> >Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
>
>
>
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
• In the 1st century there was an itinerant rabbi in Judea who spoke
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
publically against religious autorities. The religious authorities
managed to have him executed but his words live on.
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in
the midst of them"
- - - [Matthew 18:20]
"My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy,
mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from
a church as you can."
-- Frank Zappa
duke
May 26, 2012, 7:31:56 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:22:32 -0700, Mike Painter <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
It wasn't Catholic then.
>Cool place as it is a huge geodesic dome, looking much like a gold
>plated golf ball.
duke - American American
*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****
wrote:
>Cool place as it is a huge geodesic dome, looking much like a gold
>plated golf ball.
*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****
duke
May 26, 2012, 7:32:52 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
>Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
>
>
>
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
To hell you say. He formed the protest_er faith. Definitely not Roman
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
Catholic.
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
duke
May 26, 2012, 7:36:17 AM5/26/12
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wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of followers of Jesus. In
fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2 or more are gathered in his name, he
is there amongst us. Church is a family affair.
duke
May 26, 2012, 7:37:56 AM5/26/12
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... druggie.
Mitchell Holman
May 26, 2012, 8:59:32 AM5/26/12
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:p3g1s7dotk4t59foe...@4ax.com:
Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
news:p3g1s7dotk4t59foe...@4ax.com:
campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
Seth lePod
May 26, 2012, 9:09:01 AM5/26/12
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On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
> >In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
odd kind of way.
Frank Zappa was famously, ferociously anti-drugs.
Seth
Seth lePod
May 26, 2012, 9:16:33 AM5/26/12
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On May 26, 5:59 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote innews:p3g1s7dotk4t59foe...@4ax.com:
> >>In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
But hey: his kind does serve a useful purpose -- his
behavior here demonstrates the hollowness behind his
claims of following Jesus' commandment to love one
another. Duke's posts are the very last thing his
religion needs.
Seth
> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote innews:p3g1s7dotk4t59foe...@4ax.com:
> >>In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
But hey: his kind does serve a useful purpose -- his
behavior here demonstrates the hollowness behind his
claims of following Jesus' commandment to love one
another. Duke's posts are the very last thing his
religion needs.
Seth
Phlip
May 26, 2012, 10:26:54 AM5/26/12
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> > Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> > the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
>
> To hell you say. He formed the protest_er faith. Definitely not Roman
> Catholic.
My invisible sky fairy can beat up your invisible sky fairy!
> > the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
>
> To hell you say. He formed the protest_er faith. Definitely not Roman
> Catholic.
Meanwhile, surveys show younglings drop out of Protestant AND Catholic
churches because the endless rampant homophobia disappoints them...
Phlip
May 26, 2012, 10:28:58 AM5/26/12
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That's like calling Moot a "newfag". Priceless!
> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
Maybe he was thinking of the Anti-Zappa, Cap'n Beefheart...
> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
3006 Dead
May 26, 2012, 10:36:22 AM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>
>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>>>
>>>
>>> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie
>>> Ventura pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and
>>> gnashing of teeth !!!
>>>
>>> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of
>>> religion most Americans endorse -
>>> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
>>> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
>>> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
>>> and avoid 'churches'.
>>
>>Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>
> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day.
That's the Old Testament, bubbles. Don't you know what the Gospels are?
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>
>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>>>
>>>
>>> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie
>>> Ventura pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and
>>> gnashing of teeth !!!
>>>
>>> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of
>>> religion most Americans endorse -
>>> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
>>> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
>>> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
>>> and avoid 'churches'.
>>
>>Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>
> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day.
And
> what more wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of
> followers of Jesus. In fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2 or
> more are gathered in his name, he is there amongst us. Church is a
> family affair.
strong suit. And what is translated as "church" came from "ekklesia"
which meant an assembly called by a person outside of formal government.
By that definition, any sales convention in America is a church.
3006 Dead
May 26, 2012, 10:39:35 AM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 01:49:52 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
> Ah ... but without all those FOLLOWERS, those SHEEP and their lovely
> lovely MONEY - gee, how's organized religion gonna act like a
> 'super-PAC' hmmm ? :-)
>
> It's just as Luther warned ... concentrate faith into institutions
> and those institutions swerve into the realm of politics.
Yup, and when you mix religion and politics, each hopelessly corrupts the
other, and there has never been a theocracy that wasn't utterly vile and
inhuman.
> lovely MONEY - gee, how's organized religion gonna act like a
> 'super-PAC' hmmm ? :-)
>
> It's just as Luther warned ... concentrate faith into institutions
> and those institutions swerve into the realm of politics.
Yup, and when you mix religion and politics, each hopelessly corrupts the
other, and there has never been a theocracy that wasn't utterly vile and
inhuman.
Phlip
May 26, 2012, 10:49:15 AM5/26/12
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their line "...bleeding hearts & artists..."
He thinks anyone who creates a masterpiece, such as playing on a
bicycle with drumsticks, must therefor be a lowlife who uses drugs to
randomize their brain (and earn millions of job-creating clams).
Chalk this one up to more evidence that wingnuts have an impaired
sense of humor.
Phlip
May 26, 2012, 10:29:51 AM5/26/12
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On May 26, 6:16 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
> Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
Except duke's pro-Catholic - one of the Klan's OUT-groups!
> Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
> Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
Seth lePod
May 26, 2012, 12:19:26 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 7:49 am, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 6:09 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > >-- Frank Zappa...
>
> > > ... druggie.
>
> > And thus does Duke proudly wave his ignorance
> > about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
> > odd kind of way.
:
> It's a gem. duke is the kind of fascists that Pink Floyd parodies in
> their line "...bleeding hearts & artists..."
Heh! He always puts me in mind of "The Wall"
> On May 26, 6:09 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > >-- Frank Zappa...
>
> > > ... druggie.
>
> > And thus does Duke proudly wave his ignorance
> > about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
> > odd kind of way.
:
> It's a gem. duke is the kind of fascists that Pink Floyd parodies in
> their line "...bleeding hearts & artists..."
"We doawn't need no edyoucashyun..."
duke
May 26, 2012, 12:46:41 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
>> > the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
>>
>> To hell you say. He formed the protest_er faith. Definitely not Roman
>> Catholic.
>My invisible sky fairy can beat up your invisible sky fairy!
You can find your's at the hospital.
>> > Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
>> > the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
>>
>> To hell you say. He formed the protest_er faith. Definitely not Roman
>> Catholic.
>My invisible sky fairy can beat up your invisible sky fairy!
>Meanwhile, surveys show younglings drop out of Protestant AND Catholic
>churches because the endless rampant homophobia disappoints them...
duke
May 26, 2012, 12:47:25 PM5/26/12
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duke
May 26, 2012, 12:50:20 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
He smoked like a chimney, didn't he. What do you think makes people do that?
wrote:
duke
May 26, 2012, 12:51:35 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:49:15 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 6:09 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> > >-- Frank Zappa...
>>
>> > ... druggie.
>>
>> And thus does Duke proudly wave his ignorance
>> about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
>> odd kind of way.
>
>It's a gem. duke is the kind of fascists
There you go - an open admission of immaturity - the "fascist" reference.
>On May 26, 6:09 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> > >-- Frank Zappa...
>>
>> > ... druggie.
>>
>> And thus does Duke proudly wave his ignorance
>> about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
>> odd kind of way.
>
>It's a gem. duke is the kind of fascists
duke
May 26, 2012, 12:52:05 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 09:19:26 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On May 26, 7:49 am, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 26, 6:09 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > >-- Frank Zappa...
>>
>> > > ... druggie.
>>
>> > And thus does Duke proudly wave his ignorance
>> > about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
>> > odd kind of way.
>
>:
>> It's a gem. duke is the kind of fascists that Pink Floyd parodies in
>> their line "...bleeding hearts & artists..."
>
>Heh! He always puts me in mind of "The Wall"
>
> "We doawn't need no edyoucashyun..."
But it would be a tremendous benefit to you.
wrote:
>On May 26, 7:49 am, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 26, 6:09 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > >-- Frank Zappa...
>>
>> > > ... druggie.
>>
>> > And thus does Duke proudly wave his ignorance
>> > about yet once again. It's almost innocent, in an
>> > odd kind of way.
>
>:
>> It's a gem. duke is the kind of fascists that Pink Floyd parodies in
>> their line "...bleeding hearts & artists..."
>
>Heh! He always puts me in mind of "The Wall"
>
> "We doawn't need no edyoucashyun..."
Seth lePod
May 26, 2012, 1:36:10 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 9:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
That isn't what you first claimed, is it Captain
shuck-and-jive?
:
do -- I suppose you'll just have to tell me.
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Social_Characteristics
Seth
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
shuck-and-jive?
:
What do you think makes people do that?
Since I don't -- but three out of eight Catholics
do -- I suppose you'll just have to tell me.
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Social_Characteristics
Seth
Phlip
May 26, 2012, 2:38:54 PM5/26/12
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> >Frank Zappa was famously, ferociously anti-drugs.
> >Seth
>
> He smoked like a chimney, didn't he. What do you think makes people do that?
Tobacco. Hypocrisy?
> >Seth
>
> He smoked like a chimney, didn't he. What do you think makes people do that?
Oh, also, it's a physical addiction, like heroin, which is why
cigarette manufacturers advertised openly to children when he was a
kid. Starting young sets the addiction.
panamfloyd@hotmail.com rade
May 26, 2012, 3:53:06 PM5/26/12
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On May 25, 8:31 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
> May 24, 2012
> Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>http://tinyurl.com/bq2pd63
snipping article, leaving link <g>
I think the thing that astonishes me the most is the widespread lack
of concern (although not often pure disbelief) about religious
nonsense in people under thirty (I live in the US). Who was it that
coined the term "apa-theist"? I've heard JT Eberhardt (Secular Student
Alliance) say publicly that as much as %30 of US citizens under 30yrs
old care about religion at all. I don't know where he's getting his
data from, though.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://www.rationalist.com.au/archive/73/p20-27_paul_ar73_web.pdf
Father Haskell
May 26, 2012, 5:10:19 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 7:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
> >In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
a liking for it. Said that speed "turns you into your parents"
and the only drugs he ever partook of were coffee, tobacco,
and sex.
It takes more than long hair to make one a "druggie."
Father Haskell
May 26, 2012, 5:12:56 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 12:47 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:59:32 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:59:32 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >news:p3g1s7dotk4t59foe...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >>>In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
>
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
>
unable to function was unfair to people who paid for tickets.
Father Haskell
May 26, 2012, 5:16:52 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 12:50 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
It goes with a cup of coffee?
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
Tronscend
May 26, 2012, 9:09:10 PM5/26/12
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"Mr.B1ack" <b...@barrk.net> skrev i melding
news:qre0s7h2if215cq49...@4ax.com...
> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
>
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
And in the blink of an eye you'll get people
>
>>
>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
>
> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth !!!
>
> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
who'll organize to spread this gospel of liberation,
in a completely Monty Python way.
(Son't blame me, this is Kierkegaard.)
Tronscend
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Paul Duca
May 26, 2012, 11:51:20 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 7:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:22:32 -0700, Mike Painter <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> One measure of the decline of church strength and
> >> authority is church membership and attendance. And
> >> by that measure, US secularity is rising to surprising
> >> heights.
>
> >> In recent decades, many denominations have seen slow
> >> declines in attendance and membership, declines
> >> impossible to hide. Fairly honest reporting of that
> >> data is necessary to prevent denominational leaders
> >> from fooling themselves. Churches don't regard people
> >> showing up just a few times a year as real church-goers,
> >> and they search for ways to convert them into regular
> >> members. Just keeping people in the pews is a full-time
> >> job in itself for plenty of congregations.
>
> >> The March 2012 Gallup poll on religious behavior in the
> >> United States exposes how lots of people are avoiding
> >> church. As Gallup reports, "32 percent of Americans are
> >> nonreligious, based on their statement that religion is
> >> not an important part of their daily life and that they
> >> seldom or never attend religious services."
>
> >> About a third of Americans now report that they seldom
> >> or never go to a religious house of worship. That's a
> >> huge number of people avoiding church-going. But keep in
> >> mind, this poll does say that 68 percent of Americans
> >> claim that they do occasionally attend services. How
> >> valid is that figure? Actually, even fewer people are
> >> real church-goers.
>
> >> The churches' own membership lists reflect how at least
> >> three-quarters of Americans aren't showing up to church
> >> much at all. A bare majority of Americans are not connected
> >> with any religious congregation, and an even larger majority
> >> are hardly ever showing up in any house of worship. There's
> >> plenty of other sorts of religious activities and spiritual
> >> experiences to pursue, of course. Abandoning church is not
> >> the same thing as leaving the religious life. All the same,
> >> church-goers have become a minority in America.
> >>http://tinyurl.com/bq2pd63
>
> >*I* went to church yesterday.
> >Second time since about 1957 when it was not for business purposes (I
> >worked for a mortician and frequently moved flowers from a church to
> >graveside)
> >Last time was a religious wedding and this time was for a graduation.
> >It was secular and I was rather amazed that no one offered a prayer.
>
> It wasn't Catholic then...we have nothing to do BUT go to church.
>
>
> duke - American American
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:22:32 -0700, Mike Painter <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 5/25/2012 5:31 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
> >> May 24, 2012
>
>
> >On 5/25/2012 5:31 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
> >> One measure of the decline of church strength and
> >> authority is church membership and attendance. And
> >> by that measure, US secularity is rising to surprising
> >> heights.
>
> >> In recent decades, many denominations have seen slow
> >> declines in attendance and membership, declines
> >> impossible to hide. Fairly honest reporting of that
> >> data is necessary to prevent denominational leaders
> >> from fooling themselves. Churches don't regard people
> >> showing up just a few times a year as real church-goers,
> >> and they search for ways to convert them into regular
> >> members. Just keeping people in the pews is a full-time
> >> job in itself for plenty of congregations.
>
> >> The March 2012 Gallup poll on religious behavior in the
> >> United States exposes how lots of people are avoiding
> >> church. As Gallup reports, "32 percent of Americans are
> >> nonreligious, based on their statement that religion is
> >> not an important part of their daily life and that they
> >> seldom or never attend religious services."
>
> >> About a third of Americans now report that they seldom
> >> or never go to a religious house of worship. That's a
> >> huge number of people avoiding church-going. But keep in
> >> mind, this poll does say that 68 percent of Americans
> >> claim that they do occasionally attend services. How
> >> valid is that figure? Actually, even fewer people are
> >> real church-goers.
>
> >> The churches' own membership lists reflect how at least
> >> three-quarters of Americans aren't showing up to church
> >> much at all. A bare majority of Americans are not connected
> >> with any religious congregation, and an even larger majority
> >> are hardly ever showing up in any house of worship. There's
> >> plenty of other sorts of religious activities and spiritual
> >> experiences to pursue, of course. Abandoning church is not
> >> the same thing as leaving the religious life. All the same,
> >> church-goers have become a minority in America.
> >>http://tinyurl.com/bq2pd63
>
> >*I* went to church yesterday.
> >Second time since about 1957 when it was not for business purposes (I
> >worked for a mortician and frequently moved flowers from a church to
> >graveside)
> >Last time was a religious wedding and this time was for a graduation.
> >It was secular and I was rather amazed that no one offered a prayer.
>
> It wasn't Catholic then...we have nothing to do BUT go to church.
>
>
> duke - American American
Paul Duca
May 26, 2012, 11:52:23 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 7:36 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> duke - American American
>
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>
> >> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie Ventura
> >> pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth
> >> !!!
>
> >> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of religion
> >> most Americans endorse -
> >> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
> >> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
> >> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
> >> and avoid 'churches'.
>
> >> pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth
> >> !!!
>
> >> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of religion
> >> most Americans endorse -
> >> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
> >> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
> >> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
> >> and avoid 'churches'.
>
> >Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>
> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day. And what more
>
> wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of followers of Jesus.
> What ELSE do we have to do on a Sunday when it's not football season?
>
> duke - American American
>
Paul Duca
May 26, 2012, 11:53:46 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 12:50 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
Basking in the afterglow of GREAT sex at regular intervals?
Paul
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
Paul
Paul Duca
May 26, 2012, 11:54:41 PM5/26/12
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They couldn't give me enough money to do so....
Doc Smartass
May 27, 2012, 12:35:59 AM5/27/12
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3006 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote in news:jpqpov$iog$4...@dont-email.me:
Or a newsgroup. This is the Church of Atheism! =0
--
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Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
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duke
May 27, 2012, 8:28:20 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie
>>>> Ventura pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and
>>>> gnashing of teeth !!!
>>>>
>>>> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of
>>>> religion most Americans endorse -
>>>> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
>>>> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
>>>> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
>>>> and avoid 'churches'.
>>>
>>>Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>>
>> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day.
>
>That's the Old Testament, bubbles. Don't you know what the Gospels are?
Stupid comment #1: The 10 commandments are still in effect for Christians.
>On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie
>>>> Ventura pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and
>>>> gnashing of teeth !!!
>>>>
>>>> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of
>>>> religion most Americans endorse -
>>>> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
>>>> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
>>>> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak -
>>>> and avoid 'churches'.
>>>
>>>Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>>
>> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day.
>
>That's the Old Testament, bubbles. Don't you know what the Gospels are?
> And
>> what more wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of
>> followers of Jesus. In fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2 or
>> more are gathered in his name, he is there amongst us. Church is a
>> family affair.
>He also warned against those who pray in public. Consistency wasn't his
>strong suit. And what is translated as "church" came from "ekklesia"
>which meant an assembly called by a person outside of formal government.
>By that definition, any sales convention in America is a church.
trying to show off for other people rather than God. He specifically called for
us to pray continuously.
Stupid comment #3: An apple is a fruit, and an orange is a fruit, but an
ekklesia is not a sales convention.
duke
May 27, 2012, 8:28:55 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 23:35:59 -0500, Doc Smartass <Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com>
wrote:
Oh, so you come from that bad church??
wrote:
duke
May 27, 2012, 8:31:59 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
>I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
>Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
Yes, those of you that moved away are purifying the "Old South".
>But hey: his kind does serve a useful purpose -- his
>behavior here demonstrates the hollowness behind his
>claims of following Jesus' commandment to love one
>another. Duke's posts are the very last thing his
>religion needs.
Yet God specifically called for us to help you overcome your misfortunes.
wrote:
>> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
>Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
>Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
>But hey: his kind does serve a useful purpose -- his
>behavior here demonstrates the hollowness behind his
>claims of following Jesus' commandment to love one
>another. Duke's posts are the very last thing his
>religion needs.
Yet God specifically called for us to help you overcome your misfortunes.
duke
May 27, 2012, 8:33:10 AM5/27/12
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Catholic.
duke
May 27, 2012, 8:35:34 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Nicotine is a drug that is very difficult to overcome.
>What do you think makes people do that?
Hooked on drugs.
>Since I don't -- but three out of eight Catholics
>do -- I suppose you'll just have to tell me.
It was a bitch for me to overcome nicotine, gobbler.
wrote:
>What do you think makes people do that?
>Since I don't -- but three out of eight Catholics
>do -- I suppose you'll just have to tell me.
duke
May 27, 2012, 8:37:06 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 11:38:54 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 9:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> >Frank Zappa was famously, ferociously anti-drugs.
>> >Seth
>>
>> He smoked like a chimney, didn't he. What do you think makes people do that?
>Tobacco. Hypocrisy?
By golly, I think you just figured it out.
>On May 26, 9:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> >Frank Zappa was famously, ferociously anti-drugs.
>> >Seth
>>
>> He smoked like a chimney, didn't he. What do you think makes people do that?
>Tobacco. Hypocrisy?
>Oh, also, it's a physical addiction, like heroin, which is why
>cigarette manufacturers advertised openly to children when he was a
>kid. Starting young sets the addiction.
duke
May 27, 2012, 8:37:31 AM5/27/12
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duke
May 27, 2012, 8:39:45 AM5/27/12
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>It takes more than long hair to make one a "druggie."
3006 Dead
May 27, 2012, 10:51:55 AM5/27/12
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3006 Dead
May 27, 2012, 10:55:52 AM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:28:20 -0500, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie
>>>>> Ventura pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and
>>>>> gnashing of teeth !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of
>>>>> religion most Americans endorse -
>>>>> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
>>>>> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
>>>>> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak
>>>>> -
>>>>> and avoid 'churches'.
>>>>
>>>>Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>>>
>>> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day.
>>
>>That's the Old Testament, bubbles. Don't you know what the Gospels are?
>
> Stupid comment #1: The 10 commandments are still in effect for
> Christians.
Not according to Jesus.
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <de...@gone.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when governor Jessie
>>>>> Ventura pissed on 'organized religion' ? Oh the wailing and
>>>>> gnashing of teeth !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of the brand of
>>>>> religion most Americans endorse -
>>>>> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that 'organization' meant
>>>>> corruption and abuses. He therefore recommended that the faithful
>>>>> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with gawd, so to speak
>>>>> -
>>>>> and avoid 'churches'.
>>>>
>>>>Which is pretty much what the gospels say, too.
>>>
>>> NO way. God specifically called for keeping holy the Lord's Day.
>>
>>That's the Old Testament, bubbles. Don't you know what the Gospels are?
>
> Stupid comment #1: The 10 commandments are still in effect for
> Christians.
But if the Ten Commandments are in effect, then so is all the other
bizarre crap in Exodus and Leviticus, such as being put to death for
wearing cotton blends, or making the wife live out in the garage while
she's having her period, killing witches and so on.
>
>> And
>>> what more wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of
>>> followers of Jesus. In fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2 or
>>> more are gathered in his name, he is there amongst us. Church is a
>>> family affair.
>
>>He also warned against those who pray in public. Consistency wasn't his
>>strong suit. And what is translated as "church" came from "ekklesia"
>>which meant an assembly called by a person outside of formal government.
>>By that definition, any sales convention in America is a church.
>
> Stupid comment #2: He rejected people who pray in public because they
> are trying to show off for other people rather than God. He
> specifically called for us to pray continuously.
>
> Stupid comment #3: An apple is a fruit, and an orange is a fruit, but
> an ekklesia is not a sales convention.
>
Phlip
May 27, 2012, 11:33:00 AM5/27/12
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> But if the Ten Commandments are in effect, then so is all the other
> bizarre crap in Exodus and Leviticus, such as being put to death for
> wearing cotton blends, or making the wife live out in the garage while
> she's having her period, killing witches and so on.
Don't forget "no eating owls"!
> bizarre crap in Exodus and Leviticus, such as being put to death for
> wearing cotton blends, or making the wife live out in the garage while
> she's having her period, killing witches and so on.
http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=020902
(Unintended irony - I _suspect_ the Riff character is Jewish...)
Paul Duca
May 27, 2012, 6:45:20 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 8:28 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> us to pray continuously, since He knew that was the only way to keep us distracted.
>
>
> duke - American American
>
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com>
> >On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>
>
> duke - American American
>
Paul Duca
May 27, 2012, 6:46:50 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
back ON the nicotine....
> Yet God specifically called for us to help you overcome your misfortunes, as He can't be bothered.
>
> duke - American American
>
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
Your buddy Patrick only wants to go to Catholic Heaven so he can get
>
> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
back ON the nicotine....
> Yet God specifically called for us to help you overcome your misfortunes, as He can't be bothered.
>
> duke - American American
>
Paul Duca
May 27, 2012, 6:48:21 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 8:35 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
I would think it easy, as you certainly weren't constantly lighting up
after sex....
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
after sex....
Paul Duca
May 27, 2012, 6:47:27 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 8:33 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> duke - American American
>
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:29:51 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 26, 6:16 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >> I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
> >> Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
>
> >Except duke's pro-Catholic - one of the Klan's OUT-groups!
>
> AMEN to that. One small correction though - I'm not "pro-catholic", I'm happily
> Catholic and hope to make women slightly pregnant.
> >On May 26, 6:16 am, Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >> I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
> >> Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
>
> >Except duke's pro-Catholic - one of the Klan's OUT-groups!
>
> AMEN to that. One small correction though - I'm not "pro-catholic", I'm happily
>
> duke - American American
>
Seth lePod
May 27, 2012, 7:49:00 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Social_Characteristics
Seth
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
:
> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
>
> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
:
> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Social_Characteristics
Seth
duke
May 28, 2012, 7:56:37 AM5/28/12
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him. Yeah, right, they're a lot safer with you types.
duke - American American
duke
May 28, 2012, 7:59:51 AM5/28/12
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from God's laws.
>But if the Ten Commandments are in effect, then so is all the other
>bizarre crap in Exodus and Leviticus, such as being put to death for
>wearing cotton blends, or making the wife live out in the garage while
>she's having her period, killing witches and so on.
another.
Don't give up your day job, gobbler.
>>> And
>>>> what more wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of
>>>> followers of Jesus. In fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2 or
>>>> more are gathered in his name, he is there amongst us. Church is a
>>>> family affair.
>>
>>>He also warned against those who pray in public. Consistency wasn't his
>>>strong suit. And what is translated as "church" came from "ekklesia"
>>>which meant an assembly called by a person outside of formal government.
>>>By that definition, any sales convention in America is a church.
>>
>> Stupid comment #2: He rejected people who pray in public because they
>> are trying to show off for other people rather than God. He
>> specifically called for us to pray continuously.
>>
>And in silence. He would have hated you.
>
>> Stupid comment #3: An apple is a fruit, and an orange is a fruit, but
>> an ekklesia is not a sales convention.
>>
>Basically, yeah, it is. Any gathering for a common purpose is.
duke
May 28, 2012, 8:00:35 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 08:33:00 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But if the Ten Commandments are in effect, then so is all the other
>> bizarre crap in Exodus and Leviticus, such as being put to death for
>> wearing cotton blends, or making the wife live out in the garage while
>> she's having her period, killing witches and so on.
>
>Don't forget "no eating owls"!
Gosh durn those Levi priests and there make up laws.
>> But if the Ten Commandments are in effect, then so is all the other
>> bizarre crap in Exodus and Leviticus, such as being put to death for
>> wearing cotton blends, or making the wife live out in the garage while
>> she's having her period, killing witches and so on.
>
>Don't forget "no eating owls"!
>http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=020902
>
>(Unintended irony - I _suspect_ the Riff character is Jewish...)
duke
May 28, 2012, 8:02:24 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
>
>:
>> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
>So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
> http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Social_Characteristics
One has nothing to do with the other, gobbler.
wrote:
>On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
>
>:
>> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
>So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
> http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Social_Characteristics
3006 Dead
May 28, 2012, 11:47:13 AM5/28/12
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You are, as always, confused.
3006 Dead
May 28, 2012, 12:12:42 PM5/28/12
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with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38
This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You
shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments
depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
Sure sounds like he's saying "Start over and get it right this time."
>
> Don't give up your day job, gobbler.
>
>>>> And
>>>>> what more wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of
>>>>> followers of Jesus. In fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2
>>>>> or more are gathered in his name, he is there amongst us. Church is
>>>>> a family affair.
>>>
>>>>He also warned against those who pray in public. Consistency wasn't
>>>>his strong suit. And what is translated as "church" came from
>>>>"ekklesia" which meant an assembly called by a person outside of
>>>>formal government.
>>>>By that definition, any sales convention in America is a church.
>>>
>>> Stupid comment #2: He rejected people who pray in public because they
>>> are trying to show off for other people rather than God. He
>>> specifically called for us to pray continuously.
>>>
>>And in silence. He would have hated you.
>>
>>> Stupid comment #3: An apple is a fruit, and an orange is a fruit, but
>>> an ekklesia is not a sales convention.
>>>
>>Basically, yeah, it is. Any gathering for a common purpose is.
>
> Yep, a sales convention.
>
Yup. Which actually describes most churches, too. The whole idea is to
> Don't give up your day job, gobbler.
>
>>>> And
>>>>> what more wonderful way to do so is to attend a Church gathering of
>>>>> followers of Jesus. In fact, Jesus specifically stated that when 2
>>>>> or more are gathered in his name, he is there amongst us. Church is
>>>>> a family affair.
>>>
>>>>He also warned against those who pray in public. Consistency wasn't
>>>>his strong suit. And what is translated as "church" came from
>>>>"ekklesia" which meant an assembly called by a person outside of
>>>>formal government.
>>>>By that definition, any sales convention in America is a church.
>>>
>>> Stupid comment #2: He rejected people who pray in public because they
>>> are trying to show off for other people rather than God. He
>>> specifically called for us to pray continuously.
>>>
>>And in silence. He would have hated you.
>>
>>> Stupid comment #3: An apple is a fruit, and an orange is a fruit, but
>>> an ekklesia is not a sales convention.
>>>
>>Basically, yeah, it is. Any gathering for a common purpose is.
>
> Yep, a sales convention.
>
enhance profits.
duke
May 28, 2012, 3:09:42 PM5/28/12
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>You are, as always, confused.
duke
May 28, 2012, 3:16:18 PM5/28/12
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Romans 13:8-10 (New International Version)
Love Fulfills the Law
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one
another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments,
�You shall not commit adultery,� �You shall not murder,� �You shall not steal,�
�You shall not covet,�[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up
in this one command: �Love your neighbor as yourself.�[b] 10 Love does no harm
to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
>>>Basically, yeah, it is. Any gathering for a common purpose is.
>> Yep, a sales convention.
>Yup. Which actually describes most churches, too. The whole idea is to
>enhance profits.
clothe the naked, give drink to the thirsty.
If you had received any real learnings, you would have known this.
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
May 28, 2012, 3:51:41 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 8:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>
> duke - American American
>
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >:
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
>
> If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are boosting the economy with your purchases.
>
> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >:
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
>
>
> duke - American American
>
Uergil
May 28, 2012, 4:33:08 PM5/28/12
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In article <7cj7s7l54jidt50rd...@4ax.com>,
And today's Catholicism needs crutch
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
And today's Catholicism needs crutch
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
May 28, 2012, 10:19:49 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 3:16 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >From Matthew 22: 37 And he said to him, �You shall love the Lord your God
> �You shall not covet,�[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up
> in this one command: �Love your neighbor as yourself.�[b] 10 Love does no harm
> to the victims of the molesters in our midst, printing instructions on voting as we want, keg parties
> for the new manly priests and the favored male members of the parish.
>
>
> duke - American American
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 16:12:42 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 28 May 2012 06:59:51 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:55:52 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com>
> >On Mon, 28 May 2012 06:59:51 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:28:20 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com>
>
> >>>On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:28:20 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com>
>
> >>>>>On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38
> >This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You
> >shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments
> >depend all the Law and the Prophets.�
> >This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You
> >shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments
> >Sure sounds like he's saying "Start over and get it right this time."
>
> Not start over, but the primary idea.
>
> Romans 13:8-10 (New International Version)
> Love Fulfills the Law
> 8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one
> another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments,
> �You shall not commit adultery,� �You shall not murder,� �You shall not steal,�
>
> Not start over, but the primary idea.
>
> Romans 13:8-10 (New International Version)
> Love Fulfills the Law
> 8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one
> another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments,
> �You shall not covet,�[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up
> in this one command: �Love your neighbor as yourself.�[b] 10 Love does no harm
> to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
>
> >>>Basically, yeah, it is. Any gathering for a common purpose is.
> >> Yep, a sales convention.
> >Yup. Which actually describes most churches, too. The whole idea is to
> >enhance profits.
>
> Not in a Catholic Church in which the collections go back out to provide some small compensation
>
> >>>Basically, yeah, it is. Any gathering for a common purpose is.
> >> Yep, a sales convention.
> >Yup. Which actually describes most churches, too. The whole idea is to
> >enhance profits.
>
> to the victims of the molesters in our midst, printing instructions on voting as we want, keg parties
> for the new manly priests and the favored male members of the parish.
>
>
> duke - American American
duke
May 29, 2012, 7:50:35 AM5/29/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:33:08 -0600, Uergil <Uer...@uer.net> wrote:
>In article <7cj7s7l54jidt50rd...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Not in a Catholic Chruch
>
>And today's Catholicism needs crutch
We have those in the Church for the needy.
>In article <7cj7s7l54jidt50rd...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Not in a Catholic Chruch
>
>And today's Catholicism needs crutch
Alan Ferris
May 29, 2012, 1:15:33 PM5/29/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:50:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>And today's Catholicism needs crutch
>
>We have those in the Church for the needy.
Is that for the fat bastards like you who cannot walk more than 10
>>And today's Catholicism needs crutch
>
>We have those in the Church for the needy.
paces? I notice your whole church is full of overweight obese people,
including your bishop. Clearly none of you read your bibles and what
your own church teaches about lard ass fatties who cannot stop eating.
Grotesquely Obese (Earl J Weber):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1385182548&sk=info
Earl's Obese boyfriend (P Barker):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1339225483
"Likewise a person who, by excesses in eating and drinking, would have
greatly impaired his health, or unfitted himself for duties for the
performance of which he has a grave obligation, would be justly
chargeable with mortal sin"
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06590a.htm
St. Paul said that "their god is the belly " (Phil 3:19)
Seth lePod
May 29, 2012, 7:45:54 PM5/29/12
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On May 28, 5:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
:
> >So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
:
the passage most commonly employed to argue
against drinking, smoking, and other insults
to the body:
19 What? know ye not that your body is the
temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
which are God's.
1 Corinthians 6
Seth
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
:
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
:
> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
:
>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
I'm not. But three of eight Catholics are.
>
> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
:
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
:
> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
:
>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
:
> >So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
> One has nothing to do with the other, gobbler.
Oh? Actual Christians would disagree, citing
the passage most commonly employed to argue
against drinking, smoking, and other insults
to the body:
19 What? know ye not that your body is the
temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
which are God's.
1 Corinthians 6
Seth
Mike Painter
May 30, 2012, 1:13:58 AM5/30/12
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duke
May 30, 2012, 7:13:40 AM5/30/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:45:54 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On May 28, 5:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
>>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
>I'm not. But three of eight Catholics are.
Neither am I.
>> >So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
>> One has nothing to do with the other, gobbler.
>Oh? Actual Christians would disagree, citing
>the passage most commonly employed to argue
>against drinking, smoking, and other insults
>to the body:
Jewish.
> 19 What? know ye not that your body is the
> temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
> which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
> 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
> glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
> which are God's.
>
> 1 Corinthians 6
> Seth
But...............what is your point???
wrote:
>On May 28, 5:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
>>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
>I'm not. But three of eight Catholics are.
>> >So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
>> One has nothing to do with the other, gobbler.
>Oh? Actual Christians would disagree, citing
>the passage most commonly employed to argue
>against drinking, smoking, and other insults
>to the body:
> 19 What? know ye not that your body is the
> temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
> which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
> 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
> glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
> which are God's.
>
> 1 Corinthians 6
> Seth
Seth lePod
May 30, 2012, 8:37:53 PM5/30/12
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On May 30, 4:13 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:45:54 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
"Jewish", was it? What's that supposed to mean
"No longer applies"?
Well, given that when I quoted Jesus at you, you
guessed He was "some man saying that in the OT",
whose "name is of no value", then I really should
learn to stop being so damn gobsmacked, shouldn't
I?
:
> But...............what is your point???
My point? That your sneer at Zappa can equally be
be pointed at your co-religionists.
Of course, both you, I, and everyone reading this
knows that you showed your ass back there when you
dismissed Frank Zappa as a "druggie", and
everything that followed was your futile
attempt to cover it up and hope no one
noticed.
Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
Seth
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:45:54 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 28, 5:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
> >> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
> >> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
> >>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
> >I'm not. But three of eight Catholics are.
>
> Neither am I.
>
:
> >> >So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
:
> >> One has nothing to do with the other, gobbler.
:
> >Oh? Actual Christians would disagree, citing
> >the passage most commonly employed to argue
> >against drinking, smoking, and other insults
> >to the body:
:
> Jewish.
Ah, so Paul's letter to the Corinthians was
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 28, 5:02 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On May 27, 5:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
> >> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
> >> >OK. Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
> >>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
> >I'm not. But three of eight Catholics are.
>
> Neither am I.
>
:
> >> >So much for that "temple of the Holy Spirit" bit.
:
> >> One has nothing to do with the other, gobbler.
:
> >Oh? Actual Christians would disagree, citing
> >the passage most commonly employed to argue
> >against drinking, smoking, and other insults
> >to the body:
:
> Jewish.
"Jewish", was it? What's that supposed to mean
"No longer applies"?
Well, given that when I quoted Jesus at you, you
guessed He was "some man saying that in the OT",
whose "name is of no value", then I really should
learn to stop being so damn gobsmacked, shouldn't
I?
:
> > 19 What? know ye not that your body is the
> > temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
> > which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
> > 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
> > glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
> > which are God's.
> >
:
> > temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
> > which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
> > 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
> > glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
> > which are God's.
> >
> But...............what is your point???
My point? That your sneer at Zappa can equally be
be pointed at your co-religionists.
Of course, both you, I, and everyone reading this
knows that you showed your ass back there when you
dismissed Frank Zappa as a "druggie", and
everything that followed was your futile
attempt to cover it up and hope no one
noticed.
Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
Seth
Jason
May 31, 2012, 2:04:24 AM5/31/12
to
In article
<39ec7d3c-ef72-4208...@hy7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, Seth
lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 4:13=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:45:54 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.=
> com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >On May 28, 5:02=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gma=
> il.com>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >On May 27, 5:31=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@=
> gmail.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> =A0 =A0 Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
If Church-Goers are now a minority in America--it means this prophecy is
correct:
The Bible says that in the last days that people would seek out teachers
that will tell them what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
It's my guess they are seeking out are teachers and professors that are
brain washing them to believe in evolution.
<39ec7d3c-ef72-4208...@hy7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, Seth
lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 4:13=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:45:54 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.=
> com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >On May 28, 5:02=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gma=
> il.com>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >On May 27, 5:31=A0am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@=
> gmail.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> =A0 =A0 Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> > >> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> > >> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
> >
> > >> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> > >> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
> > >> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
> > >> >OK. =A0Then three of eight Catholics are druggies.
> > >> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
> >
> > >> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> > >> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
> > >> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
> > >>If you are hooked on cigarettes, you are.
> > >I'm not. =A0But three of eight Catholics are.
correct:
The Bible says that in the last days that people would seek out teachers
that will tell them what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
It's my guess they are seeking out are teachers and professors that are
brain washing them to believe in evolution.
duke
May 31, 2012, 8:24:14 AM5/31/12
to
On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:37:53 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Well, if you were a Christian, you'd know that it's not what goes in that so
bad, but what comes out.
>Well, given that when I quoted Jesus at you, you
>guessed He was "some man saying that in the OT",
>whose "name is of no value", then I really should
>learn to stop being so damn gobsmacked, shouldn't
>I?
Would it surprise you know that Christian teachings are to the Jews to bring
them to the new way?
>> > 19 What? know ye not that your body is the
>> > temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
>> > which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
>> > 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
>> > glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
>> > which are God's.
>> But...............what is your point???
>My point? That your sneer at Zappa can equally be
>be pointed at your co-religionists.
What does Zappa have to do with anything, but someone that rl chose to
arbitrarily quote like he was some expert on something. rl like to make those
silly comparisons.
>Of course, both you, I, and everyone reading this
>knows that you showed your ass back there when you
>dismissed Frank Zappa as a "druggie"
Actually, the real issue was directly pointed to "so who cares what a druggie
like Zappa thinks?"
>, and
>everything that followed was your futile
>attempt to cover it up and hope no one
>noticed.
And you didn't even know what the issue was.
>Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
Is that in the dictionary?
wrote:
bad, but what comes out.
>Well, given that when I quoted Jesus at you, you
>guessed He was "some man saying that in the OT",
>whose "name is of no value", then I really should
>learn to stop being so damn gobsmacked, shouldn't
>I?
them to the new way?
>> > 19 What? know ye not that your body is the
>> > temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
>> > which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
>> > 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore
>> > glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
>> > which are God's.
>> But...............what is your point???
>My point? That your sneer at Zappa can equally be
>be pointed at your co-religionists.
arbitrarily quote like he was some expert on something. rl like to make those
silly comparisons.
>Of course, both you, I, and everyone reading this
>knows that you showed your ass back there when you
>dismissed Frank Zappa as a "druggie"
like Zappa thinks?"
>, and
>everything that followed was your futile
>attempt to cover it up and hope no one
>noticed.
>Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
duke
May 31, 2012, 8:25:41 AM5/31/12
to
On Wed, 30 May 2012 23:04:24 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>If Church-Goers are now a minority in America--it means this prophecy is
>correct:
>
>The Bible says that in the last days that people would seek out teachers
>that will tell them what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
Yep, that's them atheists for you.
>If Church-Goers are now a minority in America--it means this prophecy is
>correct:
>
>The Bible says that in the last days that people would seek out teachers
>that will tell them what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
>It's my guess they are seeking out are teachers and professors that are
>brain washing them to believe in evolution.
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 8:45:40 AM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 2:04 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <39ec7d3c-ef72-4208-8ef7-830ff5345...@hy7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, Seth
Jason has admitted several times that he wakes up every morning and is
upset to realize that his god didn't kill billions of people overnight
as fulfillment of this mythical "prophecy".
You are welcome to provide scientifically falsifiable evidence that
unseats the Theory of Evolution. Just saying it is brainwashing is a
despicable lie.
What a horrible person you are, Jason.
---
a.a. #2273
> In article
> <39ec7d3c-ef72-4208-8ef7-830ff5345...@hy7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, Seth
upset to realize that his god didn't kill billions of people overnight
as fulfillment of this mythical "prophecy".
You are welcome to provide scientifically falsifiable evidence that
unseats the Theory of Evolution. Just saying it is brainwashing is a
despicable lie.
What a horrible person you are, Jason.
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 8:53:05 AM5/31/12
to
On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
---
a.a. #2273
> >I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
> >Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
>
> Yes, those of you that moved away are purifying the "Old South".
>
> >But hey: his kind does serve a useful purpose -- his
> >behavior here demonstrates the hollowness behind his
> >claims of following Jesus' commandment to love one
> >another. Duke's posts are the very last thing his
> >religion needs.
>
> Yet God specifically called for us to help you overcome your misfortunes.
>
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
Worst backpedaling ever.
> wrote:
>
> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
---
a.a. #2273
> >I grew up in the Old South, where his type was the norm.
> >Thankfully, they're on the endangered species list now.
>
> Yes, those of you that moved away are purifying the "Old South".
>
> >But hey: his kind does serve a useful purpose -- his
> >behavior here demonstrates the hollowness behind his
> >claims of following Jesus' commandment to love one
> >another. Duke's posts are the very last thing his
> >religion needs.
>
> Yet God specifically called for us to help you overcome your misfortunes.
>
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 8:54:35 AM5/31/12
to
On May 27, 8:35 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 26, 9:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
You druggie.
It's easy to quit smoking cigarettes. I've done it lots of times.
Last time was about 20 years ago though.
---
a.a. #2273
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 26, 9:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
> >> >> >In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
> >> wrote:
> >> >On May 26, 4:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 03:29:58 -0700, r...@somis.org (R.Measures) wrote:
> >> >> >In article <qre0s7h2if215cq49ql05ha4onf9jec...@4ax.com>, Mr.B1ack
> >> >> ><b...@barrk.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
> >> >> >> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> >> >> >> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> >> >> >> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> >> >> >> teeth !!!
>
> >> >> >> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> >> >> >> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> >> >> >> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> >> >> >> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> >> >> >> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> >> >> >> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> >> >> >> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
>
>
> >> >> >> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
>
> >> >> >> Remember the giant stink a few years ago when
> >> >> >> governor Jessie Ventura pissed on 'organized
> >> >> >> religion' ? Oh the wailing and gnashing of
> >> >> >> teeth !!!
>
> >> >> >> Of course, Martin Luther himself - the seed of
> >> >> >> the brand of religion most Americans endorse -
> >> >> >> pissed on 'organized religion'. He knew that
> >> >> >> 'organization' meant corruption and abuses.
> >> >> >> He therefore recommended that the faithful
> >> >> >> pray by and for themselves - a one-on-one with
> >> >> >> gawd, so to speak - and avoid 'churches'.
>
It's easy to quit smoking cigarettes. I've done it lots of times.
Last time was about 20 years ago though.
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 8:56:07 AM5/31/12
to
On May 27, 8:39 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:10:19 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Sorry, Frank said pot put him to sleep, never developed
> >a liking for it. Said that speed "turns you into your parents"
> >and the only drugs he ever partook of were coffee, tobacco,
> >and sex.
>
> Nicotine is a drug.
>
Is that really the "drug" you had in mind when you denigrated Zappa
with your false witness?
---
a.a. #2273
> >It takes more than long hair to make one a "druggie."
>
> Nicotine.
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:10:19 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >a liking for it. Said that speed "turns you into your parents"
> >and the only drugs he ever partook of were coffee, tobacco,
> >and sex.
>
> Nicotine is a drug.
>
Is that really the "drug" you had in mind when you denigrated Zappa
with your false witness?
---
a.a. #2273
> >It takes more than long hair to make one a "druggie."
>
> Nicotine.
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 8:57:41 AM5/31/12
to
On May 28, 7:56 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote innews:jpqpov$iog$4...@dont-email.me:
You see it every day? Name the last 10 from this month alone.
---
a.a. #2273
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:51:55 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:28:55 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 23:35:59 -0500, Doc Smartass
> >> <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com>
> >On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:28:55 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 23:35:59 -0500, Doc Smartass
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>3006 Dead <d...@gone.com> wrote innews:jpqpov$iog$4...@dont-email.me:
>
> >>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:14 +0000 (UTC), 3006 Dead <d...@gone.com>
> >>>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:36:17 -0500, duke wrote:
>
---
a.a. #2273
Patrick
May 31, 2012, 4:41:54 PM5/31/12
to
"tirebiter" <dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote
You are welcome to provide scientifically falsifiable evidence that
unseats the Theory of Evolution. Just saying it is brainwashing is a
despicable lie.
............................................
evolution is NOT a fact.
I need to emphasize up front that - despite many claims - evolution is NOT a
fact. Neither evolution nor creation is a natural law or a scientific fact,
but each is merely a model. What does this mean? The process of evolution,
just as the act of creation, cannot be observed or repeated, so both models
remain unproved by science. Therefore neither can be called a natural law
(such as the law of gravity or the laws of thermodynamics, which describe
well proved and observed behavior subject to laws of nature) nor a
scientific theory (which requires the possibility and evidence of repeated
observations). So evolution - just as creation - is only a model used to
explain the observations in the world as we know it. It is not a fact, not a
natural law, not even a scientific theory, but just a model!
I would also like to emphasize, that there are only two possible models for
the origins of life: evolution or creation. There is no alternative, and
these two are mutually exclusive. Either our space/time based universe
needed a Creator God or it did not. This has an important implication: If
we can prove that evolution is NOT a viable model/explanation, than we have
indirectly found proof that God exists! Therefore in studying the evidences
we will focus both on evidence to show that evolution is a faulty model as
well as evidence pointing to the existence of a Creator God.
The basic elements of the evolutionary model remain:
a.. Change over long periods of time: entities/organisms change over time.
These changes are random and are only based on pure chance.
b.. Natural Selection: positive changes strengthen the organism and
increase its chances for survival. Therefore (random) positive changes will
be preserved and even favored over the original organism.
c.. The only forces at work are random change (chance) and (long periods
of) time: evolution is completely controlled by natural processes and the
natural environment. There is no controlling power or other influence.
We like to believe in chance!
Have you noticed how many people tend to think that if there's a chance
something can happen, it actually will occur? The statistical probability
might be very small, and all odds are against it, yet many still are willing
to wager. That's the idea behind gambling. The odds are against us - we all
know that - but we might be .. lucky. So many folks are willing to bet their
money on it. Casinos and lotteries capitalize on this tendency of many to
think that if they only try, and keep trying, they have a good chance at
winning.
Evolution is an identical concept. This idea is that, even if its chances
are tiny, it could happen, and if you just try enough times it will happen;
that's exactly the idea behind evolution. That's probably why it appeals so
strongly to so many.
The Creation model, on the other hand, postulates a Creator God or
Intelligent Designer. Random chance and lots of time simply cannot combine
to create life. Intelligent intervention is required. This occurs either by
a comprehensive act of creation, bringing basic systems of nature into
existence at once, fully functioning at the start, or by a process directed
over time by the Creator God towards completion.
Among Christians there are different models on HOW God created our world.
These differences largely relate to timing; that is, did God directly and
immediately create the world, or did He only design and guide the natural
processes? To simplify, we identify two main views:
a.. Creationism (also called Scientific Creationism, Young Earth Creation,
and Six Day Creation). This view believes God created everything in six
literal 24-hour days. Everything was created by the direct act of God. The
creative sequence is described precisely in Genesis chapter 1 and occurred
6,000-10,000 years ago. Proponents base this view on the literal reading of
the Bible and support this interpretation by data from natural sciences
interpreted to show a young age of planet earth. Well known creationist
organizations are the Institute for Creation Research[1][2], Answers in
Genesis[2][3] and the Creation Research Society[3][4] which present programs
to demonstrate the evidences for a young world, limits to the original
created species, the uniqueness of human life, and a global flood about
5,000 years ago.
b.. Intelligent Design (also called Theistic Evolution, Old Earth
Creationism or Progressive Creationism). This view accepts the majority view
of scientists that the universe is old; several billions of years old, in
fact. Proponents agree with evolutionists that species of organisms formed
over extraordinarily long periods of time, but dispute and deny that this
happened only by random chance. Divine interventions and/or guidance over
the course of time have brought about present life forms.
This framework identifies four major events that each allows us to study
what science can teach us about how these events came about:
1.. The Big Bang
2.. Formation of planet earth
3.. First life on earth
4.. Appearance of human beings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You are welcome to provide scientifically falsifiable evidence that
unseats the Theory of Evolution. Just saying it is brainwashing is a
despicable lie.
evolution is NOT a fact.
I need to emphasize up front that - despite many claims - evolution is NOT a
fact. Neither evolution nor creation is a natural law or a scientific fact,
but each is merely a model. What does this mean? The process of evolution,
just as the act of creation, cannot be observed or repeated, so both models
remain unproved by science. Therefore neither can be called a natural law
(such as the law of gravity or the laws of thermodynamics, which describe
well proved and observed behavior subject to laws of nature) nor a
scientific theory (which requires the possibility and evidence of repeated
observations). So evolution - just as creation - is only a model used to
explain the observations in the world as we know it. It is not a fact, not a
natural law, not even a scientific theory, but just a model!
I would also like to emphasize, that there are only two possible models for
the origins of life: evolution or creation. There is no alternative, and
these two are mutually exclusive. Either our space/time based universe
needed a Creator God or it did not. This has an important implication: If
we can prove that evolution is NOT a viable model/explanation, than we have
indirectly found proof that God exists! Therefore in studying the evidences
we will focus both on evidence to show that evolution is a faulty model as
well as evidence pointing to the existence of a Creator God.
The basic elements of the evolutionary model remain:
a.. Change over long periods of time: entities/organisms change over time.
These changes are random and are only based on pure chance.
b.. Natural Selection: positive changes strengthen the organism and
increase its chances for survival. Therefore (random) positive changes will
be preserved and even favored over the original organism.
c.. The only forces at work are random change (chance) and (long periods
of) time: evolution is completely controlled by natural processes and the
natural environment. There is no controlling power or other influence.
We like to believe in chance!
Have you noticed how many people tend to think that if there's a chance
something can happen, it actually will occur? The statistical probability
might be very small, and all odds are against it, yet many still are willing
to wager. That's the idea behind gambling. The odds are against us - we all
know that - but we might be .. lucky. So many folks are willing to bet their
money on it. Casinos and lotteries capitalize on this tendency of many to
think that if they only try, and keep trying, they have a good chance at
winning.
Evolution is an identical concept. This idea is that, even if its chances
are tiny, it could happen, and if you just try enough times it will happen;
that's exactly the idea behind evolution. That's probably why it appeals so
strongly to so many.
The Creation model, on the other hand, postulates a Creator God or
Intelligent Designer. Random chance and lots of time simply cannot combine
to create life. Intelligent intervention is required. This occurs either by
a comprehensive act of creation, bringing basic systems of nature into
existence at once, fully functioning at the start, or by a process directed
over time by the Creator God towards completion.
Among Christians there are different models on HOW God created our world.
These differences largely relate to timing; that is, did God directly and
immediately create the world, or did He only design and guide the natural
processes? To simplify, we identify two main views:
a.. Creationism (also called Scientific Creationism, Young Earth Creation,
and Six Day Creation). This view believes God created everything in six
literal 24-hour days. Everything was created by the direct act of God. The
creative sequence is described precisely in Genesis chapter 1 and occurred
6,000-10,000 years ago. Proponents base this view on the literal reading of
the Bible and support this interpretation by data from natural sciences
interpreted to show a young age of planet earth. Well known creationist
organizations are the Institute for Creation Research[1][2], Answers in
Genesis[2][3] and the Creation Research Society[3][4] which present programs
to demonstrate the evidences for a young world, limits to the original
created species, the uniqueness of human life, and a global flood about
5,000 years ago.
b.. Intelligent Design (also called Theistic Evolution, Old Earth
Creationism or Progressive Creationism). This view accepts the majority view
of scientists that the universe is old; several billions of years old, in
fact. Proponents agree with evolutionists that species of organisms formed
over extraordinarily long periods of time, but dispute and deny that this
happened only by random chance. Divine interventions and/or guidance over
the course of time have brought about present life forms.
This framework identifies four major events that each allows us to study
what science can teach us about how these events came about:
1.. The Big Bang
2.. Formation of planet earth
3.. First life on earth
4.. Appearance of human beings
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
duke
May 31, 2012, 6:08:57 PM5/31/12
to
On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:45:40 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
There is no such prophecy. Jason is nuts.
wrote:
duke
May 31, 2012, 6:10:11 PM5/31/12
to
On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:54:35 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
You quit one time for 20 years. I've quit one time for 30 years.
wrote:
duke
May 31, 2012, 6:10:57 PM5/31/12
to
On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:56:07 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
Nicotine is a drug. End of controversy.
wrote:
duke
May 31, 2012, 6:11:43 PM5/31/12
to
On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>>
>> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>>
>
>Worst backpedaling ever.
Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
wrote:
>On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>>
>> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>>
>
>Worst backpedaling ever.
Phlip
May 31, 2012, 6:18:27 PM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 3:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
You backpedaled.
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>
> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
>
> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>
> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
You backpedaled.
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 6:59:44 PM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 6:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
---
a.a. #2273
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>
> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
>
Good job. Keep pointing out what a fool you made of yourself.
>
> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>
> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
>
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
May 31, 2012, 6:59:03 PM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 6:10 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:56:07 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
You ran from my question, didn't you? Why can't you admit you didn't
know Zappa didn't use illegal drugs? You may deflect it here, but
doesn't your god know of your false witness?
---
a.a. #2273
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:56:07 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
know Zappa didn't use illegal drugs? You may deflect it here, but
doesn't your god know of your false witness?
---
a.a. #2273
Seth lePod
May 31, 2012, 8:36:33 PM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 3:10 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:56:07 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
Oh? Let's hear Duke's own definition of "drug".
(and if it includes either the term "addictive" or
"habit-forming", we will need your own private
definition of that)
I take one aspirin a day.
Does that make me a "druggie"?
Seth
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:56:07 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
(and if it includes either the term "addictive" or
"habit-forming", we will need your own private
definition of that)
I take one aspirin a day.
Does that make me a "druggie"?
Seth
Seth lePod
May 31, 2012, 8:40:03 PM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 3:18 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 3:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> > >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> > >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> > >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> > >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> > >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
> > >Worst backpedaling ever.
>
:
> On May 31, 3:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
> > >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
> > >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>
> > >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
> > >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>
> > >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>
> > >Worst backpedaling ever.
>
> > >Worst backpedaling ever.
:
> > Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
:
> The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
:
> Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
> you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
:
> You backpedaled.
I see you're meeting our very own Duke.
:
> > Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
:
> The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
:
> Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
> you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
:
> You backpedaled.
Before you waste too much time, you should know
that Duke is never wrong. Never ever ever ever
ever wrong. Even when he is, which is a near
daily occurrence.
To avoid admitting what normal people do
effortlessly -- admit that he misunderstood, or
mis-spoke, or simply got a fact wrong -- he will
dissemble, insult, feign not understanding, accuse
others of his own mistake, attempt diversion, evade,
pile non-sequitur on non-sequitur... well, you get
the idea.
The only question is whether he fails to
realize that to everyone else following the
thread, every silly response just drags him in
even deeper, or whether he does realize this but
simply doesn't care.
Or perhaps he just can't help it.
(you may want to amuse yourself by observing
which and how many of the above he commits
in response to this post)
Seth
.
Seth lePod
May 31, 2012, 8:43:55 PM5/31/12
to
On May 31, 5:24 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:37:53 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
:
getting Google any day now!
Now you'll be able to actually look up terms like
"fremdschamen", "Dunning-Kruger", "plagiarism",
"a", "and", and "the".
But wait: there's more! Soon, when anyone posts a
widely well-known passage of Scripture, you will
no longer have to be embarrassed by not even
knowing if this bit of the Word of God is in the
Old Testament or the New.
Won't that be just *wonderful*?
Seth
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:37:53 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> >Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
:
> Is that in the dictionary?
Great news, Duke! I hear Louisiana will be
:
> Is that in the dictionary?
getting Google any day now!
Now you'll be able to actually look up terms like
"fremdschamen", "Dunning-Kruger", "plagiarism",
"a", "and", and "the".
But wait: there's more! Soon, when anyone posts a
widely well-known passage of Scripture, you will
no longer have to be embarrassed by not even
knowing if this bit of the Word of God is in the
Old Testament or the New.
Won't that be just *wonderful*?
Seth
linuxgal
May 31, 2012, 9:32:20 PM5/31/12
to
duke wrote:
>
> Nicotine is a drug. End of controversy.
So's the alcohol that is allegedly your Lord's blood.
>
> Nicotine is a drug. End of controversy.
Mike Painter
Jun 1, 2012, 1:15:29 AM6/1/12
to
On 5/31/2012 1:41 PM, Patrick wrote:
> "tirebiter"<dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote
>
> You are welcome to provide scientifically falsifiable evidence that
> unseats the Theory of Evolution. Just saying it is brainwashing is a
> despicable lie.
> ............................................
> evolution is NOT a fact.
>
Again Patrick steals the work of others.
> "tirebiter"<dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote
>
> You are welcome to provide scientifically falsifiable evidence that
> unseats the Theory of Evolution. Just saying it is brainwashing is a
> despicable lie.
> ............................................
> evolution is NOT a fact.
>
Evolution is a fact, just as gravity is a fact.
The theory of evolution is not a fact but it appears to be far more
certain than the theory of gravity.
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 7:46:17 AM6/1/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:57:41 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
I see today where some kenyan at Morgan State killed his roommate, Kujoe Bonsafo
Agyei-Kodie of Ghana, and ate his heart.
wrote:
Agyei-Kodie of Ghana, and ate his heart.
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 7:49:39 AM6/1/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:43:55 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
>> Is that in the dictionary?
>Great news, Duke! I hear Louisiana will be
>getting Google any day now!
Could be, but it's not in the Merriam Webster dictionary.
>Now you'll be able to actually look up terms like
>"fremdschamen", "Dunning-Kruger", "plagiarism",
>"a", "and", and "the".
>But wait: there's more! Soon, when anyone posts a
>widely well-known passage of Scripture, you will
>no longer have to be embarrassed by not even
>knowing if this bit of the Word of God is in the
>Old Testament or the New.
>Won't that be just *wonderful*?
I already know that.
wrote:
>> >Dude, you are fremdschamen with feet.
>> Is that in the dictionary?
>Great news, Duke! I hear Louisiana will be
>getting Google any day now!
>Now you'll be able to actually look up terms like
>"fremdschamen", "Dunning-Kruger", "plagiarism",
>"a", "and", and "the".
>But wait: there's more! Soon, when anyone posts a
>widely well-known passage of Scripture, you will
>no longer have to be embarrassed by not even
>knowing if this bit of the Word of God is in the
>Old Testament or the New.
>Won't that be just *wonderful*?
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 7:53:39 AM6/1/12
to
On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:18:27 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 31, 3:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>>
>> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>>
>> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>>
>> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
>
>The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
Au contraire, dumbass.
>On May 31, 3:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>>
>> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>>
>> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>>
>> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
>
>The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
Main Entry:1drug
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation,
or a marked change in consciousness
>Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
>you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
>You backpedaled.
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 7:57:04 AM6/1/12
to
On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
>> Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
>> you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
>> You backpedaled.
>I see you're meeting our very own Duke.
And he's taking an ass kicking to boot.
>Before you waste too much time, you should know
>that Duke is never wrong. Never ever ever ever
>ever wrong. Even when he is, which is a near
>daily occurrence.
>To avoid admitting what normal people do
>effortlessly -- admit that he misunderstood, or
>mis-spoke, or simply got a fact wrong -- he will
>dissemble, insult, feign not understanding, accuse
>others of his own mistake, attempt diversion, evade,
>pile non-sequitur on non-sequitur... well, you get
>the idea.
>The only question is whether he fails to
>realize that to everyone else following the
>thread, every silly response just drags him in
>even deeper, or whether he does realize this but
>simply doesn't care.
>
>Or perhaps he just can't help it.
>(you may want to amuse yourself by observing
>which and how many of the above he commits
>in response to this post)
Each one is humorous in itself. Heeheehee.
>Seth
wrote:
>> The definition of "drug" is _not_ "habit forming".
Main Entry:1drug
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation,
or a marked change in consciousness
–drug£gy also drug£
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation,
or a marked change in consciousness
>> Before this thread, you didn't know Zappa was a tobacco addict. And
>> you _thought_ he was a pot addict (like most musicians).
>> You backpedaled.
>I see you're meeting our very own Duke.
>Before you waste too much time, you should know
>that Duke is never wrong. Never ever ever ever
>ever wrong. Even when he is, which is a near
>daily occurrence.
>To avoid admitting what normal people do
>effortlessly -- admit that he misunderstood, or
>mis-spoke, or simply got a fact wrong -- he will
>dissemble, insult, feign not understanding, accuse
>others of his own mistake, attempt diversion, evade,
>pile non-sequitur on non-sequitur... well, you get
>the idea.
>The only question is whether he fails to
>realize that to everyone else following the
>thread, every silly response just drags him in
>even deeper, or whether he does realize this but
>simply doesn't care.
>
>Or perhaps he just can't help it.
>(you may want to amuse yourself by observing
>which and how many of the above he commits
>in response to this post)
>Seth
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 7:57:52 AM6/1/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>On May 31, 6:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>>
>> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>>
>> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>>
>> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
>>
>
>Good job. Keep pointing out what a fool you made of yourself.
Main Entry:1drug
Pronunciation:*dr*g
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English drogge
Date:14th century
1 a obsolete : a substance used in dyeing or chemical operations b : a
substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication c according
to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an
official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in the
diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a
substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the
body (4) : a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a
device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
2 : a commodity that is not salable or for which there is no demand — used in
the phrase drug on the market
wrote:
>On May 31, 6:11 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 27, 8:31 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:16:33 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Err.....wrong. Zappa was the original anti-drug
>> >> >> campaigner. He didn't use drugs, he didn't allow his
>> >> >> band members to use drugs. Don't you know anything?
>>
>> >> >Duke is an all-purpose bigot. From rock musicians to
>> >> >non-whites to women, there's no group he won't stereotype.
>>
>> >> zappa was a druggie of nicotine.
>>
>> >Worst backpedaling ever.
>>
>> Either it's habit forming (drug) or not.
>>
>
>Good job. Keep pointing out what a fool you made of yourself.
Pronunciation:*dr*g
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English drogge
Date:14th century
1 a obsolete : a substance used in dyeing or chemical operations b : a
substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication c according
to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an
official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in the
diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a
substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the
body (4) : a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a
device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
2 : a commodity that is not salable or for which there is no demand — used in
the phrase drug on the market
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation,
or a marked change in consciousness
–drug£gy also drug£
or a marked change in consciousness
–drug£gy also drug£
duke
Jun 1, 2012, 7:59:40 AM6/1/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:59:03 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
"Illegal" drugs. Now you're moving the goal post, tb.
Main Entry:1drug
Pronunciation:*dr*g
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English drogge
Date:14th century
1 a obsolete : a substance used in dyeing or chemical operations b : a
substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication c according
to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an
official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in the
diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a
substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the
body (4) : a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a
device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
2 : a commodity that is not salable or for which there is no demand — used in
the phrase drug on the market
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation,
or a marked change in consciousness
–drug£gy also drug£
Heeheehee.
Gosh, you kids are really struggling with this one.
wrote:
Main Entry:1drug
Pronunciation:*dr*g
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English drogge
Date:14th century
1 a obsolete : a substance used in dyeing or chemical operations b : a
substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication c according
to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an
official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in the
diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a
substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the
body (4) : a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a
device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
2 : a commodity that is not salable or for which there is no demand — used in
the phrase drug on the market
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation,
or a marked change in consciousness
–drug£gy also drug£
Gosh, you kids are really struggling with this one.
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