Re: Forced Abortion - Abortionist TOO Conservative!

[W.T.S.]

In article <50987bcc-f30e-4cee-b753-0db464a45699
@ua8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, skye...@cox.net says...
> On May 18, 10:03 pm, Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincol...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 May 2013 19:07:23 -0700 (PDT), Robert H
> >
> > <craz...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >On May 18, 5:15 pm, default <n...@noname.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert H
> >
> > >> <craz...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> >On May 18, 4:13 pm, default <n...@noname.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:55:33 -0700 (PDT), elizabeth
> >
> > >> >> <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >On May 16, 3:59 pm, JWD Wolfe <l...@bellsout.net> wrote:
> > >> >> >> On 5/16/2013 5:30 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> > In article <V4clt.101332$VF3.10...@fx28.fr7>,
> > >> >> >> > JWD Wolfe <l...@bellsout.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >> On 5/16/2013 3:53 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>> In article <k89lt.78088$lc7.4...@fx19.fr7>,
> > >> >> >> >>> JWD Wolfe <l...@bellsout.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>> On 5/16/2013 2:04 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>>>> In article <h3Ykt.99230$a77.13...@fx18.fr7>,
> > >> >> >> >>>>> JWD Wolfe <l...@bellsout.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> On 5/15/2013 9:01 PM, Dakota wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>> On 5/15/2013 7:46 PM, JWD Wolfe wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/15/2013 8:08 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> In article <2wNkt.62486$zR1.7...@fx03.fr7>,
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> JWD Wolfe <l...@bellsout.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2013 8:30 AM, default wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 12:05:23 +0300, "Ksuvo" <aki.karppi...@tut.fi>
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "HVAC" <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> kirjoitti
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> viestiss :kmotob$91...@dont-email.me...
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/8/2013 11:06 AM, JWD Wolfe wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forced abortion under certain circumstances should be required.
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, a fetus which has a heritable genetic, mental or
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disease deleterious mutation or disorder. Any fetus which will
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrade the human gene pool. Any fetus as a child which will
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> burden upon society.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in favor of paying any woman who comes in for an abortion
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> $500.00.
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> She can come in as often as she likes, we keep the dead fetus.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> To that woman who kills her own child is better that (s)he never
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> birthed...
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> That is true. Contraception is a far better choice. Make it
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> available and educate people into responsible social intercourse.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Force is never a good alternative - be it forced abortions or
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> forcing
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> people to have unwanted children or forcing the marketing of
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> contraceptives to make them unavailable to people or forcing the
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> educational system to forego teaching reproduction in schools on
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> religious grounds.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Religion has no place in this issue, and it should be taken out of
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> discussion.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Force is what governments and religions use to achieve the greedy
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ends
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> of their proponents. The more people learn to think for
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> themselves,
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the harder they are to force.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Why not put some chemical agent into drinking water which would
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> cause
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> infertility?
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? We've been doing that for decades.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Why is it _not_ working? What is the rate of illegitimate babies
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> born in the US? Perhaps a couple should be limited to two offspring.
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> The third should be forced to abort.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>> Describing a baby born out of wedlock as illegitimate is an absurd and
> > >> >> >> >>>>>>> disgusting religious notion. It is as vile as calling them bastards.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> It doesn't matter, illegitimate is the standard term for babies born to
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> single mothers. I have no hang up with calling them bastards. Single
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> women too often cannot support them, so they are foisted off on society.
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> We as members of society should have some say-so where single women have
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> babies. There is more than 50% of all births in the US that's
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> illegitimate. Most of these babies are foisted upon society for support.
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> Illegitimate babies should be all be euthanized. This is better
> > >> >> >> >>>>>> than my tax dollars going to support them.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>>> Wow. Actually saying that money is more important than lives.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>>> When the ultimate result of increasing illegitimate births brings about
> > >> >> >> >>>> the ultimate destruction of a society and nation, then yes!
> >
> > >> >> >> >>> Where's your evidence that we're in danger of any such ridiculous
> > >> >> >> >>> happening?
> >
> > >> >> >> >> Just look at the rate increase of illegitimate - single mother births
> > >> >> >> >> since the 1990s. Look at any table on the increase of illegitimate
> > >> >> >> >> births to single women. You can find the statistics on the internet.
> > >> >> >> >> For white women the rate of unwed births is 28% of all births. For
> > >> >> >> >> For Asians it's only 16%, for Blacks it over 70%.
> > >> >> >> >> Even my people (American Indian) it's - 50+%. Just look at the increase
> > >> >> >> >> of illegitimate births since 1942).
> >
> > >> >> >> >> I won't hazard a guess as to why, but It doesn't take rocket science to
> > >> >> >> >> understand that a single mother or father, cannot possibly expect the
> > >> >> >> >> same family income as a family with two wage earners. Poverty is one
> > >> >> >> >> consequence of illegitimate births. Even with food stamps and
> > >> >> >> >> Government assistance, the income for single parent families is not
> > >> >> >> >> enough. Unfortunately inner-city black our of wedlock births is 80%.
> > >> >> >> >> How can society lift such families out of poverty? You can thank our
> > >> >> >> >> politicians for this sad state of affairs. The high minded ambition
> > >> >> >> >> of politicians to raise the living standards of the poor was admirable,
> > >> >> >> >> but the result is that it drove too many men away from the family,
> > >> >> >> >> resulting in even greater and even a wider spread legacy of poverty.
> >
> > >> >> >> > That is not evidence that society will collapse. It's evidence that we
> > >> >> >> > aren't doing enough to help the poor become productive tax-paying
> > >> >> >> > citizens.
> >
> > >> >> >> I'm with you, but how do you propose we do this? At the present time
> > >> >> >> we are going in the wrong direction. Increasing numbers of people are
> > >> >> >> requiring government support. This doesn't even take into account the
> > >> >> >> number of people going on social security.
> >
> > >> >> >> > Why we'd rather spend upwards of $20,000/yr on people in prison instead
> > >> >> >> > of $10,000/yr (or even more) making sure all children have enough to eat
> > >> >> >> > and a decent education.
> >
> > >> >> >> My sister is a school teacher in a "poor" community. You should hear
> > >> >> >> some of the problems she has had to deal with.
> >
> > >> >> >Well, most folks buy into the lie that we need a constantly expanding
> > >> >> >population and growth is good.
> > >> >> >We passed that point in the 1960s and now overpopulation is the cause
> > >> >> >of all the major problems, and makes everything else worse.
> >
> > >> >> >But you can't reason with pronatalists, mommyworshippers, etc.
> >
> > >> >> You and I can't perhaps, but Nature holds the trump card.
> >
> > >> >What do you think about women who think some other women should be
> > >> >gang-raped, slowly and to death?
> >
> > >> I can't say I've given it any thought. For a start I would question
> > >> your assertion. Are there women like that?
> >
> > >> That seems highly unlikely.
> >
> > >Yep, you were just replying to one of them. Elizabeth.  Yes, she has
> > >said that exactly.
> >
> > That's really difficult to stomach. Do you have a citation for that?
> > It's something I need to see for myself in order to believe... I guess
> > that's par for the course in an atheist forum.
>
> Elizabeth feels that there are women out there who do not...behave in
> such a way as to optimize the environment for all women. She is so
> fixated on these women that she's taken to fantasizing about what she
> feels would be appropriate punishments for such women.
>
> While I understand where elizabeth is coming from, I don't share her
> dark fantasies about punishing other women by having them raped to
> death. Elizabeth, as you can well imagine, has issues.
>
Would it be Ok to simply have pro-lie women coated with fresh, whipped
cream and allow a hundred kittens to simply lick them to death?
>
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Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
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http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
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http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271
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http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
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http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
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Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
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Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
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1. Lie.
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible.
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible.
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie.
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law.
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie.
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