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W.T.S.

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Apr 28, 2013, 2:18:38 AM4/28/13
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In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> Nice slide show.
>
Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception, ever. No baby is
ever involved in any abortion.
Any other questions?
Next time, consult a web site with actual information, not an internet
lie rag run by forced-birther loons.

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271
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http://tinyurl.com/a887er9
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http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
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http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
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http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
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http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
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http://www.imnotsorry.net
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Oleg Smirnov

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Apr 28, 2013, 4:22:26 AM4/28/13
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W.T.S., news:MPG.2be67b3b7...@news.west.earthlink.net
> In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...

>> http://www.mccl.org/Page.aspx?pid=381&srcid=183
>>
>> Nice slide show.
>>
> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.

That's not correct.

alen

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Apr 28, 2013, 10:21:46 AM4/28/13
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On Apr 28, 4:18 pm, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> >http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> > Nice slide show.
>
> Life begins at birth.  It doesn't begin at conception, ever.  No baby is
> ever involved in any abortion.
> Any other questions?
> Next time, consult a web site with actual information, not an internet
> lie rag run by forced-birther loons.

Unfortunately for you, the Eternal Father, who
is the one Emperor of Eternity and Infinity, and
who is the author of all life and all other things,
doesn't agree with your human definitions and
declarations. When you die, you will continue to
exist, whether you like it or not and, since you
will be in opposition to the Eternal Emperor, whose
word is the only eternal truth and law, it will
be impossible for you to be accepted, so you
will have to be cast aside and abandoned to
your fate.

It is very foolish for any woman (and her
supporters, like you) to consider her own
convenience, comfort, safety, etc. in this short
physical life only, by aborting her unborn child,
in order to get rid of her pregnancy, and thereby
throw herself into worse and far longer lasting
agonies in the other world, which she won't have
the faintest idea how to get herself out of.

Alen

duke

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Apr 28, 2013, 1:27:02 PM4/28/13
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>>
>> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>>
>> Nice slide show.

>Life begins at birth.

For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heeheehee.

The dukester, American - American

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You simply can't fix stupid.
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elizabeth

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Apr 28, 2013, 4:15:08 PM4/28/13
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On Apr 28, 7:21 am, alen <al...@westserv.net.au> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 4:18 pm, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> > >http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> > > Nice slide show.
>
> > Life begins at birth.  It doesn't begin at conception, ever.  No baby is
> > ever involved in any abortion.
> > Any other questions?
> > Next time, consult a web site with actual information, not an internet
> > lie rag run by forced-birther loons.
>
> Unfortunately for you, the Eternal Father, who
> is the one Emperor of Eternity and Infinity, and
> who is the author of all life and all other things,
> doesn't agree with your human definitions and
> declarations. When you die, you will continue to
> exist, whether you like it or not and, since you
> will be in opposition to the Eternal Emperor, whose
> word is the only eternal truth and law, it will
> be impossible for you to be accepted, so you
> will have to be cast aside and abandoned to
> your fate.

Oh, my ... .

> It is very foolish for any woman (and her
> supporters, like you) to consider her own
> convenience, comfort, safety, etc.

And sexist, sociopathic, and nasty to insist that the woman's life and
safety are not worth considering.

> in this short
> physical life only, by aborting her unborn child,

So you're an undead corpse? BTW, one def of unborn is never born.

> in order to get rid of her pregnancy, and thereby
> throw herself into worse and far longer lasting
> agonies in the other world, which she won't have
> the faintest idea how to get herself out of.

Well, dearie, since the bible does not condemn abortion, and it was
well known and widely practiced (See _Eve's Herbs_ by John Riddle for
the Hx of abortion and contraception), and since xian dislike of
abortion is a relatively recent (mid 1800s) bit of dogma, you'd best
heed the word of Jesus when he told his disciples that it's up to God
to judge, not you, and you can't make that call.

So ... going against the word of your alleged savior . .. doubleplus
ungood .. .

> Alen

�RLMeasures

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Apr 28, 2013, 5:25:00 PM4/28/13
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In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1n...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >>
> >> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >>
> >> Nice slide show.
>
> >Life begins at birth.
>
> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heeheehee.
>
� when does the soul arrive?

casey

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Apr 28, 2013, 8:07:29 PM4/28/13
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On Apr 29, 7:25 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>
> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> > >> Nice slide show.
>
> > >Life begins at birth.
>
> > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already.  Heeheehee.
>
>  when does the soul arrive?

And does it split into two with twins?

Patrick

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Apr 28, 2013, 8:28:03 PM4/28/13
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I already answered that once.
Only one of the twins gets the soul.
The other one is referred to as the "evil" twin.

Dreamer In Colore

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Apr 28, 2013, 9:22:35 PM4/28/13
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:28:03 -0400, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT), casey
><jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 29, 7:25 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>>> In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>
>>> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>>>
>>> > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>>>
>>> > >> Nice slide show.
>>>
>>> > >Life begins at birth.
>>>
>>> > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already.  Heeheehee.
>>>
>>>  when does the soul arrive?
>>
>>And does it split into two with twins?
>
>I already answered that once.
>Only one of the twins gets the soul.
>The other one is referred to as the "evil" twin.

Just out of curiosity, is this RC doctrine/dogma, or is this your
opinion?

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

•RLMeasures

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Apr 28, 2013, 10:15:01 PM4/28/13
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In article
<74a5e3a8-346b-442b...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
<jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> On Apr 29, 7:25=A0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> >
> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote=
> :
> >
> > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >
> > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >
> > > >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > >Life begins at birth.
> >
> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
> >
> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
>
> And does it split into two with twins?

•*** only with identical twins.

casey

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Apr 28, 2013, 11:31:12 PM4/28/13
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On Apr 29, 12:15 pm, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <74a5e3a8-346b-442b-8308-467b1a124...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
Yes I thought of that just after I hit [send] and decided
the reader would know what I meant.

Jason

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Apr 28, 2013, 11:46:21 PM4/28/13
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<jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> On Apr 29, 7:25=A0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> >
> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote=
> :
> >
> > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >
> > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >
> > > >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > >Life begins at birth.
> >
> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
> >
> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
>
> And does it split into two with twins?

No, every person has their own soul and it is NEVER split.


casey

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Apr 29, 2013, 12:45:17 AM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 1:46 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <74a5e3a8-346b-442b-8308-467b1a124...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
>
>
>
>
>
So if we clone a human your god will zip down and
insert a new soul in the clone as he must in the case
of identical twins.

Jason

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Apr 29, 2013, 12:51:20 AM4/29/13
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In article
<d1f99151-e344-4734...@ot10g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
casey <jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> On Apr 29, 1:46=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <74a5e3a8-346b-442b-8308-467b1a124...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > On Apr 29, 7:25=3DA0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > > > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> >
> > > > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> w=
> rote=3D
> > > :
> >
> > > > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >
> > > > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propagan=
> da/
> >
> > > > > >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > > > >Life begins at birth.
> >
> > > > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =3DA0Heehee=
> hee.
> >
> > > > =3DA0when does the soul arrive?
> >
> > > And does it split into two with twins?
> >
> > No, every person has their own soul and it is NEVER split.
>
> So if we clone a human your god will zip down and
> insert a new soul in the clone as he must in the case
> of identical twins.

Yes--every person that is alive has a soul.

It's my understanding that clones have to be born just like regular
babies. It's my guess that God provides each embryo with a soul.


casey

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Apr 29, 2013, 3:53:45 AM4/29/13
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On Apr 29, 2:51 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> [...]
> Yes--every person that is alive has a soul.

And what does this soul do and apart from your
belief this thing exists what is the evidence each
person has a soul inside them? You know the
kind of evidence we use to show that we have
a brain between our ears. What does this soul
look like and what is its function?



W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:13:08 AM4/29/13
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In article <kljdpm$8ai$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> Syd M., news:41697b59-2b8a-41a1...@i2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com
> > On Apr 28, 4:22 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
>
> >>>> http://www.Lie.biz/
> >>
> >>>> Nice slide show.
> >>
> >>> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> >>> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >>
> >> That's not correct.
> >
> > No, you are wrong.
>
> I still think I'm right.
No, you've been listening to pro-liars and forced-birthers too much.
>
> We don't see anywhere in the nature such
> a phenomenon that something was not alive
> and then it would toggle to be alive.
A fetus is nothing more than a hangnail. They need removal. Stop being
a liar and tell the truth, life begins only at birth.
>
> > PDW

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:16:39 AM4/29/13
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In article <b22b5571-fb25-4e58-9d6d-ed69e8cf1d93
@v4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, cra...@comcast.net says...
> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
> > Syd M.,news:41697b59-2b8a-41a1...@i2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com
> >
> > > On Apr 28, 4:22 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
> > >>>>http://www.Pro-Liar.biz
> >
> > >>>> Nice slide show.
> >
> > >>> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> > >>> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >
> > >> That's not correct.
> >
> > > No, you are wrong.
> >
> > I still think I'm right.
>
> You're not, I know for a fact it's not a baby until birth.
>
> > We don't see anywhere in the nature such
> > a phenomenon that something was not alive
> > and then it would toggle to be alive.
Do you mean to say a clump of cells too small, cells with no life of
their own, no consciousness, is a "baby". You've been following the
rants of pro-liar loons far too long. Sober up and get real! Start by
following the links below.
> >
> > > PDW

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:18:39 AM4/29/13
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In article <klj4p1$o1g$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> Jeanne Douglas, news:hlwdjsd2-09E1AE...@news.giganews.com
> > In article <klim3o$ke1$1...@os.motzarella.org>, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru>
> > wrote:
>
> >>>> http://www.Forced-Birther.biz/
> >>>>
> >>>> Nice slide show.
> >>>>
> >>> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> >>> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >>
> >> That's not correct.
> >
> > Of course it is. It is fact.
>
> You'll be unable to prove.
> >
> > JD
> >
> > "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph
> > Biden
To get the facts, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:20:50 AM4/29/13
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In article <96514f05-c108-4e70-80f7-
6f7f55...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, cra...@comcast.net says...
> On Apr 28, 8:34 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
> > Jeanne Douglas,news:hlwdjsd2-09E1AE...@news.giganews.com
> >
> > > In article <klim3o$ke...@os.motzarella.org>, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru>
> > > wrote:
> > >>>>http://www.Pro-Lying.biz/
> >
> > >>>> Nice slide show.
> >
> > >>> Life begins at birth.  It doesn't begin at conception,
> > >>> ever.  No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >
> > >> That's not correct.
> >
> > > Of course it is. It is fact.
> >
> > You'll be unable to prove.
>
> And you are _wrong_. But you have to say that, otherwise you can't
> justify your opinions or position.
>
> > > JD
> >
> > > "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph
> > > Biden
To learn the truth about abortion, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:25:54 AM4/29/13
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In article <2d84f576-e9ff-4539-9922-7518d5206308
@i3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, cra...@comcast.net says...
> On Apr 28, 4:22 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
> > W.T.S.,news:MPG.2be67b3b7...@news.west.earthlink.net
> >
> > > In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> > >>http://www.Forced-Birthing.biz/
> >
> > >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > Life begins at birth.  It doesn't begin at conception,
> > > ever.  No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >
> > That's _correct_.
>
> You are talking to a troll, "Robert H" is nothing more than a troll.
> And, W.T.S. is right, life can only begin at birth, never conception.
For the truth about abortion, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:28:14 AM4/29/13
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In article <kljqev$hq3$2...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> Robert H,
> news:2d84f576-e9ff-4539...@i3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com
> > On Apr 28, 4:22 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
> >> W.T.S., news:MPG.2be67b3b7...@news.west.earthlink.net
>
> >>>> http://www.Pro-Lies.biz/
> >>
> >>>> Nice slide show.
> >>
> >>> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> >>> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >>
> >> That's correct.
> >
> > You are talking to a troll, "Robert H" is nothing more than a
> > troll.
>
> Oh I have noticed it. And, I can see now, fater reading the links
> below, life only begins at birth.
Thanks! The links below will give you the real facts:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:39:06 AM4/29/13
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In article <klk4sv$lds$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> SkyEyes,
> news:d3ddd493-25d6-4247...@aw7g2000pbd.googlegroups.com
> > On Apr 28, 5:32 am, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
>
> >>> the question of when
> >>> "life" begins isn't germane to anything. The salient
> >>> question is "When is the nervous system hooked fully up,
> >>> when can the fetus attain consciousness and live on its
> >>> own, with care, outside of the mother's body?" Before
> >>> the fetus can attain consciousness, it can't be said to
> >>> be a "person."
> >>
> This is true. But, we pro-liars feel women should be gender slaves
> and brood sows, and we won't let facts or the truth stand in our way.
> >
> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> >
For the truth about abortion, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:35:25 AM4/29/13
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In article <klj4kg$nc7$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> skye...@yahoo.com,
> news:5ef87cc7-0912-4d7c...@yb1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com
> > On Apr 27, 1:55 pm, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
>
> >> http://www.Forced-Birther.biz/
> >>
> >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > Life is an ongoing process that began 4.7 mya on Earth.
> >
> > If you're talking about abortion,
>
> No, not primarily.
>
> > the question of when
> > "life" begins isn't germane to anything. The salient
> > question is "When is the nervous system hooked fully up,
> > when can the fetus attain consciousness and live on its
> > own, with care, outside of the mother's body?" Before
> > the fetus can attain consciousness, it can't be said to
> > be a "person."
>
> As we already have found, your initial idea
> that the consciousness takes place along with the
> first breath was right.
>
> The far fetched theories of pro-liars and forced-birthers are
> unscientific as well. The simple fact is that life only begins at
> birth, never at conception.
>
> > And under the United States Constitution,
> > you have to be *born* in order to be a person.
>
> Good point. The same is true in the medical and scientific world.
>
> > Why don't you go find yourself a nice hobby, Oleg, and
> > stay the hell out of women's personal business?
>
> Yes, it's between a woman and her Doctor. Only a forced-birther or a
> pro-liar sticks his or her nose in private business.
>
> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>
To learn the truth about life and abortion, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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In article <Jason-28041...@66.53.222.254>, Ja...@nospam.com
says...
> In article <klj4kg$nc7$1...@os.motzarella.org>, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru>
> wrote:
>
> Life begins only at birth. It's a medical fact. However, don't try to
> convince an pro-liar or forced-birther that life begins at birth. They
> actually believe that life begins at birth, but turning women into
> brood sows and gender slaves is much more important to them than women
> being able to control their own bodies and lives.
Good point. To learn the truth, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:48:58 AM4/29/13
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In article <kljajq$mqo$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> Devils Advocaat,
> news:e760f6db-59cd-44a1...@gb2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
> > On 28 Apr, 09:22, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
> >> W.T.S., news:MPG.2be67b3b7...@news.west.earthlink.net
>
> >>>> http://www.Forced-Birthing.biz/
> >>
> >>>> Nice slide show.
> >>
> >>> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> >>> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >>
> >> That's correct. But, we forced birthers and pro-liars have a more
> >> important agenda, turning women into brood sows and gender slaves.
> >> As such, we'll continue to lie all we wish. Women's bodies and
> >> freedom means nothing to us, and they never will.
To learn the truth, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:59:09 AM4/29/13
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In article <c2fqn8h7m9ffjp85d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:22:26 +0400, "Oleg Smirnov" <ve...@gde.ru> wrote:
>
> >W.T.S., news:MPG.2be67b3b7...@news.west.earthlink.net
> >> In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >
> >>> http://www.Forced-Birther.biz/
> >>>
> >>> Nice slide show.
> >>>
> >> Life begins at birth. It doesn't begin at conception,
> >> ever. No baby is ever involved in any abortion.
> >
> >That's correct.
>
> Right. Life begins at birth. Until then, it's just a clump of cells
> with no independant life or consciousness. You need a microscope to
> see the fetus most of the time. To assert that this is a "baby"
> show's just how stupid pro-liars and forced-birthers have become.
> They are willing to destroy a woman's future, even kill her to advance
> their sick agender of brood sow status and gender slavery for women.
> I now realize that the fetus is nothing more than a hangnail waiting
> to be trimmed for the good of the woman's health and safety. I now
> realize it is a disgrace to be Catholic! I now realize that "God" is
> nothing more than the Pope's sock puppet. I wish I had the strength
> and courage to spit into the face of Catholicism and walk away.
Keep working on it, "duke", you're getting there.
>
> The dukester, Ashamed to be Catholic.
> ********************************************
> Denounce Catholicism!
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:06:06 AM4/29/13
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In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1n...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >>
> >> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >>
> >> Nice slide show.
>
> >Life begins at birth.
>
> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. HeeHawHeeHaw.
Like the cells of a hangnail? The fetus, like the hangnail, needs to be
removed and thrown away. A woman's life and future are far more
important than the contents of a test tube!
>
> The pukester, CatholiKKK Stool.
> ********************************************
> Renounce Catholicism!
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************
Learn the truth, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:07:46 AM4/29/13
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In article <r-2804131...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org says...
> > HeeHawHeeHawHeeHawHeeHaw.
> >
> • when does the soul arrive?
Good point! The soul is just an invention of the Catholic Church.
Souls just don't exist. Life only begins at birth, never conception.

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:11:07 AM4/29/13
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In article <Jason-28041...@67-150-124-170.lsan.mdsg-
pacwest.com>, Ja...@nospam.com says...
> In article
> <74a5e3a8-346b-442b...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
> <jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 29, 7:25=A0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> > >
> > > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S."
> > >
> > > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> > >
> > > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> > >
> > > > >> Nice slide show.
> > >
> > > > >Life begins at birth.
> > >
> > > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
> > >
> > > =A0when does the soul arrive?
> >
> > And does it split into two with twins?
>
> No, every person has their own soul and it is NEVER split.
Typical. The Church invents the non-existant "soul" to justify it's
anti-choice stand.

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:14:25 AM4/29/13
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In article <Jason-28041...@67-150-124-170.lsan.mdsg-
pacwest.com>, Ja...@nospam.com says...
The "soul" is a lie, "God" is a lie. Get used to it. If you continue
to believe those lies, you'll never be free.
Learn the truth, follow the links below:

W.T.S.

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:22:26 AM4/29/13
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In article <7bd45326-bf14-446e-ae35-ef0c90670e36
@m4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, manky...@gmail.com says...
>
> On 29 Apr, 04:50, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <klk8ih$68...@dont-email.me>, Malcolm McMahon
> >
> > <malc...@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:55:45 +0400, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> >
> > > >http://www.Pro-Liars.biz/
> >
> > > > Nice slide show.
> >
> > > An embryo is alive. So's a red blood cell. But is it _a life_.
> >
> > But one is an alive embryo and the other one is a alive red blood cell.
> >
> > The embryo is a life unless it is aborted.
>
> Did you know many more embryos die without being aborted?
Good point. Mother Nature and "God" are the biggest abortionists
around! Learn more, follow the links below:

Oleg Smirnov

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casey, news:26780a5e-6aa8-428e...@dg5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com
If this suggests physical description then it contains an
internal contradiction, since what we are able to describe
physically is 'inanimate nature', by (implicit) definition.

We usually can well, somehow, determine (or 'feel') in
practice, is there a soul / consciousness / 'alive-ness'
somewhere, or not. But the problem is to provide a 'formal
description' of what this 'somehow' (ie. our 'feeling')
really is. As soon as it is formalized or algorithmized,
and predictable (maybe at least in a probabilistic sense)
then there is no 'alive soul' any more.

duke

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:

>In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1n...@4ax.com>, duke
><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>> >>
>> >> Nice slide show.
>>
>> >Life begins at birth.
>>
>> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heeheehee.
>>
>• when does the soul arrive?

Conception, which precedes first cell split. God's got the situation under
control.


The dukester, American - American

********************************************
Repeal Obama

duke

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:15:01 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:

>In article
><74a5e3a8-346b-442b...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
><jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 29, 7:25=A0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>> > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>> >
>> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote=
>> :
>> >
>> > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>> >
>> > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>> >
>> > > >> Nice slide show.
>> >
>> > > >Life begins at birth.
>> >
>> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
>> >
>> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
>>
>> And does it split into two with twins?
>
>•*** only with identical twins.

God gives it two souls before the split. God knows what he's doing.

duke

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Intelligent people know that a soul is not an organ.

Patrick

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:22:35 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
<dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:28:03 -0400, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT), casey
>><jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>On Apr 29, 7:25 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>>>> In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>
>>>> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>>>>
>>>> > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>>>>
>>>> > >> Nice slide show.
>>>>
>>>> > >Life begins at birth.
>>>>
>>>> > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already.  Heeheehee.
>>>>
>>>>  when does the soul arrive?
>>>
>>>And does it split into two with twins?
>>
>>I already answered that once.
>>Only one of the twins gets the soul.
>>The other one is referred to as the "evil" twin.
>
>Just out of curiosity, is this RC doctrine/dogma, or is this your
>opinion?

It is merely an answer to a stupid question.

Dreamer In Colore

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:51:37 -0400, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>
Clearly proof of "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer" then.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

casey

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On Apr 29, 11:06 pm, Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:51:37 -0400, Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:22:35 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
> ><dreamerincol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:28:03 -0400, Patrick <pbarker...@woh.rr.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT), casey
> >>><jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >>>>On Apr 29, 7:25 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> >>>>> In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>
> >>>>> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>> > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> >>>>> > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> >>>>> > >> Nice slide show.
>
> >>>>> > >Life begins at birth.
>
> >>>>> > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already.  Heeheehee.
>
> >>>>>  when does the soul arrive?
>
> >>>>And does it split into two with twins?
>
> >>>I already answered that once.
> >>>Only one of the twins gets the soul.
> >>>The other one is referred to as the "evil" twin.
>
> >>Just out of curiosity, is this RC doctrine/dogma, or is this your
> >>opinion?
>
> >It is merely an answer to a stupid question.
>
> Clearly proof of "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer" then.

I googled the evil twin subject and it seems to be one of
the common themes in mythology representing the duality
of good and evil.

>
> Cheers,
> Dreamer
> AA 2306

Dreamer In Colore

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Sometimes, both twins are evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Ringers_(film)

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

alen

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On Apr 29, 6:15 am, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 7:21 am, alen <al...@westserv.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 28, 4:18 pm, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> > > >http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> > > > Nice slide show.
>
> > > Life begins at birth.  It doesn't begin at conception, ever.  No baby is
> > > ever involved in any abortion.
> > > Any other questions?
> > > Next time, consult a web site with actual information, not an internet
> > > lie rag run by forced-birther loons.
>
> > Unfortunately for you, the Eternal Father, who
> > is the one Emperor of Eternity and Infinity, and
> > who is the author of all life and all other things,
> > doesn't agree with your human definitions and
> > declarations. When you die, you will continue to
> > exist, whether you like it or not and, since you
> > will be in opposition to the Eternal Emperor, whose
> > word is the only eternal truth and law, it will
> > be impossible for you to be accepted, so you
> > will have to be cast aside and abandoned to
> > your fate.
>
> Oh, my ... .
>
> > It is very foolish for any woman (and her
> > supporters, like you) to consider her own
> > convenience, comfort, safety, etc.
>
> And sexist, sociopathic, and nasty to insist that the woman's life and
> safety are not worth considering.
>
> > in this short
> > physical life only, by aborting her unborn child,
>
> So you're an undead corpse?  BTW, one def of unborn is never born.
>
> > in order to get rid of her pregnancy, and thereby
> > throw herself into worse and far longer lasting
> > agonies in the other world, which she won't have
> > the faintest idea how to get herself out of.
>
> Well, dearie, since the bible does not condemn abortion, and it was
> well known and widely practiced (See _Eve's Herbs_ by John Riddle for
> the Hx of abortion and contraception), and since xian dislike of
> abortion is a relatively recent (mid 1800s) bit of dogma, you'd best
> heed the word of Jesus when he told his disciples that it's up to God
> to judge, not you, and you can't make that call.
>
> So ... going against the word of your alleged savior . .. doubleplus
> ungood .. .

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/messages/all-messages/

Message No 27, Dec 16 2010

"Write this My daughter. Death dealt out to innocent
victims is one of the greatest sins which man can
inflict on his brother. It is the most grevious sin
of the flesh and causes Me deep pain. The lack
of regard that mankind today has for human life
is becoming increasingly evident in the world.

Life is a precious gift from God. No man has the
right to take the life of another. No man has the
right to take the life of a child still to take his first
breath at the time of birth. This crime is heinous
and unforgivable. All souls come from my Eternal
Father and are created at the moment of conception.
Little children, innocent souls, are being murdered
by the very people sent to nurture them – their
own mothers, who are responsible for their being
denied the right to be born.

Why do My children stand back and do nothing?
In the name of freedom these little angels from My
Father’s Kingdom are being taken off this earth before
the time assigned to them, as children of God, has
taken place. Do these women not understand that
the lives they place so little value on are those of
God? These children are suffering. They endure
agonizing pain during their murder. And it is justified
by Governments, the medical profession and these
women’s families. Have they no remorse in their souls?

Do they not realise that their heinous act is no
different to that act when man murders man?

In fact it is an even greater sin as these children
are helpless. These women must ask for mercy
if they are guilty. Or ask for guidance from Me if
they are considering an abortion. Either way they
will be judged by their sin. Sins of the flesh are the
most offensive in my Father’s eyes. No amount of
justification for murdering another fellow being is
acceptable by Me or My Eternal Father.

Wake up now My children and understand that
the taking of life will lead the perpetrators into
the eternal fires of hell. There will be no return
from this abyss full of demons. Those same
demons, who through the work of The Deceiver
– Satan – convinces the murderer that what he
or she is doing is right! He will cunningly convince
mothers, for example, that they are making the
‘right decision’. Using every trick associated with
human reasoning he will make the person justify
the act even though it is wrong. He will use the
lie that the murderer has rights of their own. That
they must look after their own interests first. In
the name of human rights the lie is manifested
so that the rights of a mother and her freedom to
live life as she chooses is to be admired. The lie
then convinces her that it is right and correct to
murder her child.

Please understand that the escalation of genocide
in the world has been foretold. It is one of the many
signs spoken of in relation to the End Times.

Stop all of you now. Listen. Murder is a very serious
offence. Do it and you will not be saved. There is no
going back. Repent those of you who have committed
this terrible sin. Ask for forgiveness now. I, through
My Mercy, will hear your prayer. You can, and will be
saved, if you are truly sorry for your grevious sin. I
will listen. I will forgive. But time is not on your side.

Believers pray hard for these lost and wandering
children of mine who have been misled by The
Deceiver and his minions in positions of power.
They need your prayers now. You must, all of you,
defend the right to human life which cannot be
tampered with by human hands in any circumstances.

Pray to Me every day. Offer any sufferings you
may have for the innocent victims.

Your Beloved Saviour Jesus Christ"

Alen

•RLMeasures

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In article
<cd5a8b3d-f58d-46f2...@oj8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, casey
<jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> On Apr 29, 12:15=A0pm, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <74a5e3a8-346b-442b-8308-467b1a124...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > On Apr 29, 7:25=3DA0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > > > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> >
> > > > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> w=
> rote=3D
> > > :
> >
> > > > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >
> > > > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propagan=
> da/
> >
> > > > > >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > > > >Life begins at birth.
> >
> > > > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =3DA0Heehee=
> hee.
> >
> > > > =3DA0when does the soul arrive?
> >
> > > And does it split into two with twins?
> >
> > *** =A0only with identical twins.
>
> Yes I thought of that just after I hit [send] and decided
> the reader would know what I meant.

*** Some would but there are numerous exceptions on
alt.religion.roman-catholic.

•RLMeasures

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Apr 29, 2013, 1:00:29 PM4/29/13
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In article <8emsn8192urom3lmc...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1n...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >> >>
> >> >> Nice slide show.
> >>
> >> >Life begins at birth.
> >>
> >> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heeheehee.
> >>
> >• when does the soul arrive?
>
> Conception, which precedes first cell split. God's got the situation under
> control.
>
• So why did some of the guys I knew in junior high not have one even
though they were c. 13 yrs old?.

•RLMeasures

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In article <jmmsn8d8ofjj6ivr0...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:15:01 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><74a5e3a8-346b-442b...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
> ><jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> On Apr 29, 7:25=A0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> >> > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> >
> >> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net>
wrote=
> >> :
> >> >
> >> > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >> >
> >> > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >> >
> >> > > >> Nice slide show.
> >> >
> >> > > >Life begins at birth.
> >> >
> >> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
> >> >
> >> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
> >>
> >> And does it split into two with twins?
> >
> >•*** only with identical twins.
>
> God gives it two souls before the split. God knows what he's doing.
>
• Then why are there evil twins?

W.T.S.

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In article <8emsn8192urom3lmc...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1n...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >> >>
> >> >> Nice slide show.
> >>
> >> >Life begins at birth.
> >>
> >> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heeheehee.
> >>
> >? when does the soul arrive?
>
> Conception, which precedes first cell split. God's got the situation under
> control.
How stupid do you have to be to believe that lying bull shit, "duke"?
Is this why the Pope wants to take away womens contraception as well?
You and your Pope are sick puppies, "duke".
This is the real truth: There is no "God", there is no "soul" Get over
it, "duke". The Pope's con game no longer works.
>
> The pukester, CatholiKKK Stool.
> ********************************************
> Renounce Catholicism!
> You simply can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************

duke

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Beats me. They were your friends.

Jason

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In article <24ntn8951klugc9i9...@4ax.com>, duke
Re: about when does life begin?

I believe that most of us agree that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.

However, some of the fans of abortion believe that life begins at BIRTH.
It's my guess that the people that have that point of view have NEVER seen
a 3-D color ultrasound of a fetus. I believe they have also NOT seen a
NATURE book that shows detailed color pictures of embryos and fetuses. I
have a message for those people:

A FETUS IS NOT A GLOB OF TISSUE.


Devils Advocaat

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On 29 Apr, 22:03, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <24ntn8951klugc9i9o1rkl3qsaard9b...@4ax.com>, duke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:00:29 -0700, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > >In article <8emsn8192urom3lmc3dvqcql03bekff...@4ax.com>, duke
> > ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > >> >In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> > >> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>
> > >> >> >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> > >> >> >> Nice slide show.
>
> > >> >> >Life begins at birth.
>
> > >> >> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already.  Heeheehee.
>
> > >> >  when does the soul arrive?
>
> > >> Conception, which precedes first cell split.  God's got the situation under
> > >> control.
>
> > >  So why did some of the guys I knew in junior high not have one even
> > >though they were c. 13 yrs old?.
>
> > Beats me.  They were your friends.
>
> > The dukester, American - American
>
> > ********************************************
> > Repeal Obama
> > You simply can't fix stupid.
> > ********************************************
>
> Re: about when does life begin?
>
> I believe that most of us agree that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.

Are you suggesting the sperm and the egg have no life?
>
> However, some of the fans of abortion believe that life begins at BIRTH.
> It's my guess that the people that have that point of view have NEVER seen
> a 3-D color ultrasound of a fetus. I believe they have also NOT seen a
> NATURE book that shows detailed color pictures of embryos and fetuses. I
> have a message for those people:
>
> A FETUS IS NOT A GLOB OF TISSUE.

Oh dear, don't start that globs of tissue nonsense again.

Jason

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Apr 29, 2013, 5:42:31 PM4/29/13
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In article
<85557cae-cbcd-406d...@p14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 29 Apr, 22:03, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <24ntn8951klugc9i9o1rkl3qsaard9b...@4ax.com>, duke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:00:29 -0700, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> >
> > > >In article <8emsn8192urom3lmc3dvqcql03bekff...@4ax.com>, duke
> > > ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wro=
> te:
> >
> > > >> >In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> > > >> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net>=
> wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says..=
> .
> >
> > > >> >> >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propag=
> anda/
> >
> > > >> >> >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > >> >> >Life begins at birth.
> >
> > > >> >> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heehee=
> hee.
> >
> > > >> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
> >
> > > >> Conception, which precedes first cell split. =A0God's got the situat=
> ion under
> > > >> control.
> >
> > > > =A0So why did some of the guys I knew in junior high not have one eve=
> n
> > > >though they were c. 13 yrs old?.
> >
> > > Beats me. =A0They were your friends.
> >
> > > The dukester, American - American
> >
> > > ********************************************
> > > Repeal Obama
> > > You simply can't fix stupid.
> > > ********************************************
> >
> > Re: about when does life begin?
> >
> > I believe that most of us agree that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.
>
> Are you suggesting the sperm and the egg have no life?
> >
> > However, some of the fans of abortion believe that life begins at BIRTH.
> > It's my guess that the people that have that point of view have NEVER see=
> n
> > a 3-D color ultrasound of a fetus. I believe they have also NOT seen a
> > NATURE book that shows detailed color pictures of embryos and fetuses. I
> > have a message for those people:
> >
> > A FETUS IS NOT A GLOB OF TISSUE.
>
> Oh dear, don't start that globs of tissue nonsense again.

Sperm will not develop into an embryo.
Egg will not develop into an embryo.
However, when a sperm is combined with an egg--the fertilized egg has the
potential of developing into a human embryo and eventually into a human
baby.

Of course, you already knew all of the above info. so I don't know why you
asked me about it.


•RLMeasures

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In article <24ntn8951klugc9i9...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:00:29 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <8emsn8192urom3lmc...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1n...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <klhdp4$osm$1...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Nice slide show.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Life begins at birth.
> >> >>
> >> >> For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heeheehee.
> >> >>
> >> >• when does the soul arrive?
> >>
> >> Conception, which precedes first cell split. God's got the situation under
> >> control.
> >>
> >• So why did some of the guys I knew in junior high not have one even
> >though they were c. 13 yrs old?.
>
> Beats me. They were your friends.
>
• semi. All of them were gone with the wind by high school graduation time.

Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 29, 2013, 9:38:11 PM4/29/13
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In article
<Jason-29041...@66-53-217-163.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Stop lying.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 29, 2013, 9:38:54 PM4/29/13
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There's no such thing as a fan of abortion. Why would you say something
so incredibly stupid?

Devils Advocaat

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On 29 Apr, 22:42, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <85557cae-cbcd-406d-a11b-6033aaeb4...@p14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
I didn't ask you anything, why do you lie so much?

Uncle Vic

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On Apr 30, 1:38 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-2904131403180...@66-53-217-163.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <24ntn8951klugc9i9o1rkl3qsaard9b...@4ax.com>, duke
> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:00:29 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > > >In article <8emsn8192urom3lmc3dvqcql03bekff...@4ax.com>, duke
> > > ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:25:00 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > > >> >In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> > > >> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net>
> > > >> >> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
Stick it up your ass you worthless cunt.

--
Uncle Vic

Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:50:27 -0700 (PDT), alen <al...@westserv.net.au>
One doesn't often see theists indulge in such blatant acts of
blasphemy.

It's a good thing there are people like -me- in the world to stop
people like -you- from burning you at the stake.

So, are you the leader of the "New Prophecies" cult or just a member?

Lest anyone is curious:

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/home/




Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT), casey
<jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>On Apr 29, 7:25 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>> In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>
>> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>>
>> > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>>
>> > >> Nice slide show.
>>
>> > >Life begins at birth.
>>
>> > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already.  Heeheehee.
>>
>>  when does the soul arrive?
>
>And does it split into two with twins?

That question has been put to Dook before.

He says one life one soul.

So, they must share.

Every other day and alternating weekends, perhaps?

Figuring out who gets the soul on holidays must be a bitch.




Silen...@hotmail.com

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:35:23 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:15:01 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
>>In article
>><74a5e3a8-346b-442b...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, casey
>><jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 7:25=A0am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>>> > In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>> >
>>> > <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote=
>>> :
>>> >
>>> > > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru says...
>>> >
>>> > > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>>> >
>>> > > >> Nice slide show.
>>> >
>>> > > >Life begins at birth.
>>> >
>>> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
>>> >
>>> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
>>>
>>> And does it split into two with twins?
>>
>>•*** only with identical twins.
>
>God gives it two souls before the split. God knows what he's doing.

Really?

And you know this how exactly?

God talking to you again?

What does he do in the case of chimeras?

Kill one of the siblings in the womb, before it's body is absorbed and
incorporated into the body of the other?

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.

linuxgal

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Apr 29, 2013, 10:49:52 PM4/29/13
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duke wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:53:45 -0700 (PDT), casey <jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 29, 2:51 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Yes--every person that is alive has a soul.
>> And what does this soul do and apart from your
>> belief this thing exists what is the evidence each
>> person has a soul inside them? You know the
>> kind of evidence we use to show that we have
>> a brain between our ears. What does this soul
>> look like and what is its function?
>
> Intelligent people know that a soul is not an organ.

But a Hammond B has soul.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

Dreamer In Colore

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:21:09 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

<all irrelevant stuff snipped for relevance>

>Lest anyone is curious:
>
>http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/home/
>

Why, Otto? Why did you put that there for me to look at? That was just
plain cruel. Shame on you. You owe me 5 seconds of my life back.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

Jason

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In article <flaun85na8ki3tc97...@6ax.com>,
Each person that is alive has a FULL soul.


Devils Advocaat

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On 30 Apr, 05:35, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <flaun85na8ki3tc97u36f6p37cie9t9...@6ax.com>,
When does the unornamented supposedly get this alleged soul?

•RLMeasures

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Robert H

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On Apr 30, 6:38 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <0525f810-a94a-413d-b92d-99bb9676e...@x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
First, one must understand what the soul is. Consciousness,
awareness.

duke

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:30:59 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
>>>> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
>>>> And does it split into two with twins?
>>>•*** only with identical twins.

>>God gives it two souls before the split. God knows what he's doing.

>Really?
>And you know this how exactly?
>God talking to you again?

Yep. One person, one soul.

duke

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:03:18 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>Re: about when does life begin?
>I believe that most of us agree that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.

Yep. No doubt about that.

>However, some of the fans of abortion believe that life begins at BIRTH.
>It's my guess that the people that have that point of view have NEVER seen
>a 3-D color ultrasound of a fetus. I believe they have also NOT seen a
>NATURE book that shows detailed color pictures of embryos and fetuses. I
>have a message for those people:
>A FETUS IS NOT A GLOB OF TISSUE.

They can't explain why the fetus at an early state has a heart beat, brain
waves, sucks it's thumb and moves about.

duke

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:22:26 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> I believe that most of us agree that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.
>Are you suggesting the sperm and the egg have no life?

They are "live" tissue, they are not ALIVE and never will be unless they have a
date.

Robert H

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:24:28 AM4/30/13
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Are you suggesting that a sperm and/or egg by itself is equivalent to
a human life?

Robert H

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:25:09 AM4/30/13
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On Apr 29, 5:42 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <85557cae-cbcd-406d-a11b-6033aaeb4...@p14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
You would think they already knew this, but I am wondering. They do
appear to have skipped out on a lot of biology classes.

Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:53:43 AM4/30/13
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Payback for what you did to me with Dook and >gag< sex.


Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:01:04 AM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:09:24 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:30:59 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
>>>>> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
>>>>> And does it split into two with twins?
>>>>•*** only with identical twins.
>
>>>God gives it two souls before the split. God knows what he's doing.
>
>>Really?
>>And you know this how exactly?
>>God talking to you again?
>
>Yep.

They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.

>One person, one soul.

Chimeras are -two- people.

They're highly integrated conjoined twins.

So, your answer is, as usual, inadequate.

God's not very good at this question-answer stuff, is he, Dook?

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.




>

Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:08:26 AM4/30/13
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No, rightard...

That is not the theological definition of the soul.

That's the -atheist- explanation for why people feel they have souls.

Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:11:59 AM4/30/13
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Well, since you theists claim that people get their souls at the point
of federalization... (you know... personhood and all that)

And, since twinning -always- happens after than point, sometimes up to
a week later....

Where does the other soul come from?

Does God ship down another?

Split the one that's there into two?

What?

And, more importantly...

How do you know?

Dreamer In Colore

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:15:38 AM4/30/13
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Nice. Overwhelming response... just the way I would have played it.

Respect.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

W.T.S.

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:24:27 AM4/30/13
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In article <fda33ee1-3c97-429c-8847-9af73f21ef39
@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, cra...@comcast.net says...
It's whatever you define it as. To me, the "soul" is the Rings of
Saturn.
If you're going to define it as "consciousness and awareness", then it's
just a chemical reaction in the brain, and is dependent on those
chemical reactions, which a lot can affect. A brain injury or infection
or viral infection can change brain chemistry a lot. Thus, "free will"
is much over rated.

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271
>
http://tinyurl.com/anghyfr
>
http://tinyurl.com/a887er9
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
>
http://tinyurl.com/ayk7czf
>
http://tinyurl.com/43hp62x
>
http://tinyurl.com/b29z62n
>

•RLMeasures

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:27:46 AM4/30/13
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In article
<fda33ee1-3c97-429c...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Robert H <cra...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Apr 30, 6:38=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <0525f810-a94a-413d-b92d-99bb9676e...@x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 30 Apr, 05:35, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article <flaun85na8ki3tc97u36f6p37cie9t9...@6ax.com>,
> >
> > > > SilentO...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT), casey
> > > > > <jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >On Apr 29, 7:25 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> > > > > >> In article <stmqn81im8r8ufo1nf2jpeht2vr6tcb...@4ax.com>, duke
> >
> > > > > >> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:18:38 -0500, "W.T.S."
> > <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > >In article <klhdp4$os...@os.motzarella.org>, ve...@gde.ru say=
> s...
> >
> > >>http://www.MotherFuckersAndLoons.biz/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
> >
> > > > > >> > >> Nice slide show.
> >
> > > > > >> > >Life begins at birth.
> >
> > > > > >> > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. Heehee=
> hee.
> >
> > > > > >> when does the soul arrive?
> >
> > > > > >And does it split into two with twins?
> >
> > > > > That question has been put to Dook before.
> >
> > > > > He says one life one soul.
> >
> > > > > So, they must share.
> >
> > > > > Every other day and alternating weekends, perhaps?
> >
> > > > > Figuring out who gets the soul on holidays must be a bitch.
> >
> > > > Each person that is alive has a FULL soul.
> >
> > > When does the unornamented supposedly get this alleged soul?
> >
> > =95 =A0good luck.
>
> First, one must understand what the soul is. Consciousness,
> awareness.

*** Also, there are people who have virtually none. Drugs take people there.

•RLMeasures

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:36:56 AM4/30/13
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In article <ch9vn8hvlf4uoqhnk...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:30:59 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >>>> > > For the first cell to split, it must be "life" already. =A0Heeheehee.
> >>>> > =A0when does the soul arrive?
> >>>> And does it split into two with twins?
> >>>•*** only with identical twins.
>
> >>God gives it two souls before the split. God knows what he's doing.
>
> >Really?
> >And you know this how exactly?
> >God talking to you again?
>
> Yep. One person, one soul.
>
• I know a brunette with 5 personalities. One of these personalities is
"Wicked Wanda", who is a notorious penis biter, and yet her other 4
personalities do not bite. Apparently the scary thing is that there is
no way to tell when she is going to switch from her Princess personality
to the Wanda one.

•RLMeasures

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:46:42 AM4/30/13
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In article <3k9vn89qsj8n4kefj...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:03:18 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> >Re: about when does life begin?
> >I believe that most of us agree that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.
>
> Yep. No doubt about that.
>
> >However, some of the fans of abortion believe that life begins at BIRTH.
> >It's my guess that the people that have that point of view have NEVER seen
> >a 3-D color ultrasound of a fetus. I believe they have also NOT seen a
> >NATURE book that shows detailed color pictures of embryos and fetuses. I
> >have a message for those people:
> >A FETUS IS NOT A GLOB OF TISSUE.
>
> They can't explain why the fetus at an early state has a heart beat, brain
> waves, sucks it's thumb and moves about.
>
• Classic Duke prevarication: The brain does not form until after the
cranium forms - which happens in the third trimester. Thus the claim of
brain waves in an "early state" clearly needs more debate. Critics of
Christianity need to keep in mind that the 10 Commandments have no
prohibition of simple lying, so Christians are permitted to lie as long as
they do not give false witness. .

Devils Advocaat

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Apr 30, 2013, 11:01:42 AM4/30/13
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Oops!

My bad.

How did "unornamented" get in there?

It should be "unborn".

That's tablets for you.

Especially when tired.

Oleg Smirnov

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Apr 30, 2013, 11:05:34 AM4/30/13
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Silen...@hotmail.com, news:40kvn8h902na6c1nj...@6ax.com
If some one feels thirsty then it's likely this one really has thirst.

And if many feel alike then it's unlikely a delusional dream.

alen

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Apr 30, 2013, 11:51:47 AM4/30/13
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The person receiving the messages (called Maria) was
chosen as a prophet or messenger to transmit the messages
to all humanity. I discovered the website, and am not
personally involved with it. There is no cult or membership,
or anything like that. We all have exactly the same access
to all the messages.

Alen


Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 7:06:09 PM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:51:47 -0700 (PDT), alen <al...@westserv.net.au>
Right...

Just as soon as one forks over $15.99 each for her books.


Silen...@hotmail.com

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Apr 30, 2013, 7:26:03 PM4/30/13
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I believe the proper response is:

"Damn you auto-correct!"

duke

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May 1, 2013, 7:39:33 AM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:01:04 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>God talking to you again?
>>Yep.
>They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.

I don't hear "voices". God talks to me in my heart.

duke

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May 1, 2013, 7:42:30 AM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:46:42 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:

>> They can't explain why the fetus at an early state has a heart beat, brain
>> waves, sucks it's thumb and moves about.

>� Classic Duke prevarication: The brain does not form until after the
>cranium forms - which happens in the third trimester. Thus the claim of
>brain waves in an "early state" clearly needs more debate. Critics of
>Christianity need to keep in mind that the 10 Commandments have no
>prohibition of simple lying, so Christians are permitted to lie as long as
>they do not give false witness. .

Early fetus movement is at 6 weeks, which takes some neural activity.

W.T.S.

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May 1, 2013, 8:59:42 AM5/1/13
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In article <hov1o85aq58t6k9ks...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:46:42 -0700, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >> They can't explain why the fetus at an early state has a heart beat, brain
> >> waves, sucks it's thumb and moves about.
>
> >? Classic Duke prevarication: The brain does not form until after the
> >cranium forms - which happens in the third trimester. Thus the claim of
> >brain waves in an "early state" clearly needs more debate. Critics of
> >Christianity need to keep in mind that the 10 Commandments have no
> >prohibition of simple lying, so Christians are permitted to lie as long as
> >they do not give false witness. .
>
> Early fetus movement is at 6 weeks, which takes some neural activity.
No problem, a decent, wholesome abortion will put a stop to that crap.

W.T.S.

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May 1, 2013, 9:00:42 AM5/1/13
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In article <mkv1o85ngmet850rd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:01:04 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >>>God talking to you again?
> >>Yep.
> >They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
>
> I don't hear "voices". God talks to me in my heart.
You "hear" in your heart? "duke", your brain chemistry is screwed up,
get to a Doctor!

Silen...@hotmail.com

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May 1, 2013, 10:05:50 AM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:39:33 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:01:04 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>God talking to you again?
>>>Yep.
>>They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
>
>I don't hear "voices". God talks to me in my heart.

You sound like you think that matters, Dook...

Heh heh...

Lying racist rightard socialists...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.



>

�RLMeasures

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May 1, 2013, 10:10:51 AM5/1/13
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In article <hov1o85aq58t6k9ks...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:46:42 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >> They can't explain why the fetus at an early state has a heart beat, brain
> >> waves, sucks it's thumb and moves about.
>
> >� Classic Duke prevarication: The brain does not form until after the
> >cranium forms - which happens in the third trimester. Thus the claim of
> >brain waves in an "early state" clearly needs more debate. Critics of
> >Christianity need to keep in mind that the 10 Commandments have no
> >prohibition of simple lying, so Christians are permitted to lie as long as
> >they do not give false witness. .
>
> Early fetus movement is at 6 weeks, which takes some neural activity.
>
� "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it."
- - - Joseph Goebbels

Dreamer In Colore

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May 1, 2013, 11:18:54 AM5/1/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 06:39:33 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:01:04 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>>God talking to you again?
>>>Yep.
>>They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
>
>I don't hear "voices". God talks to me in my heart.
>

That's more evidence that Intelligent Design is a bullshit theory.

Cheers,
Dreamer
AA 2306

casey

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May 1, 2013, 4:51:58 PM5/1/13
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On May 1, 9:39 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:01:04 -0400, SilentO...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>God talking to you again?
> >>Yep.
> >They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
>
> I don't hear "voices".  God talks to me in my heart.

Same thing. You imagine stuff and think it is real.
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May 2, 2013, 7:17:12 AM5/2/13
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On Wed, 01 May 2013 10:05:50 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
>>I don't hear "voices". God talks to me in my heart.
>You sound like you think that matters, Dook...

I'm satisfied.

duke

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May 2, 2013, 7:17:56 AM5/2/13
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??? That, that???

duke

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May 2, 2013, 7:18:53 AM5/2/13
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On Wed, 1 May 2013 13:51:58 -0700 (PDT), casey <jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>On May 1, 9:39 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:01:04 -0400, SilentO...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>>God talking to you again?
>> >>Yep.
>> >They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
>>
>> I don't hear "voices".  God talks to me in my heart.
>
>Same thing. You imagine stuff and think it is real.

Sorry you don't have the ability to know the difference.

•RLMeasures

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May 2, 2013, 9:36:22 AM5/2/13
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In article <toi4o8hbjj66k4udi...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 01 May 2013 10:05:50 -0400, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >>>They say that thorazine is good for stopping the voices, Dook.
> >>I don't hear "voices". God talks to me in my heart.
> >You sound like you think that matters, Dook...
>
> I'm satisfied.
>
• sold is more like it.

Robert H

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May 2, 2013, 10:26:39 AM5/2/13
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On May 2, 5:08 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:51:20 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) in
> alt.abortion with message-id
>
> <Jason-2804132151210...@67-150-124-170.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com> wrote:
> >Yes--every person that is alive has a soul.
>
> Prove a soul exists.

The major problem with you is you simply don't want to believe it at
all. So no matter what people tell you or show you, you are going to
automatically reject it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqtBdULCfo
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