On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:47:27 +1100, Lucifer
1.The Torment of Job
Job, chapters 1, 2, and 38-42.
--Job's sufferings were a test for Job and answer accusations from
Satan. God has a right to test His creations and His accusers.
2. The Hand Writing on the Wall
Daniel 5
-- It was a prophecy of what would happen to king Belshazzar. This
wicked king's days were numbered. God had the right to predict it.
3. The Massacre of the Innocents
Matthew 2:16-18.
--This was done by Herod, not God. A prophecy in Jeremiah predicted
it. God has the right to record prophecies.
4. The Obliteration of Sodom and Gomorrah
Genesis 19:1-29.
--Because of the extreme wickedness of those cities, God judged them
adversely. This is a warning for us today.
5. The Locusts of the Abyss
Revelation 9:7-11
--Something horrible is going to take place, brought on by man’s
contemptible sin, resulting in God’s final fury against it.
6. The Ten Plagues of Egypt
Exodus 7:14-12:29.
--God “hardened Pharaoh’s heart”. Pharaoh already had a hardened
heart. God just amplified what he already had.
7. The Flood of Noah
Genesis 6:9-8:22
--The earth was so corrupt back then, that everything they did was bad
all the time. And with ONLY Noah and his family righteous, God
adversely judged the rest of the inhabitants of that time.
8. God’s Judgment against Jerusalem
Ezekiel 22:17-22
--"God is, once again, infuriated with the impenitent sinners in
Jerusalem. They are supposed to be his chosen people, but they
repeatedly defy him, disobey his laws, and ignore the many instances
of his justice against such impenitence"
9. The Passion of Christ
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John
--Up to then, mankind was doomed for eternal death. God sent His only
firstborn Son, to be a ransom for mankind. Now mankind has the
opportunity to receive eternal life.
10. The Lake of Fire
Revelation 19:20, 20:10, 14, 15.
--The writer of this (not the Bible writer) has got it so messed up, I
don't know where to begin to straighten it out. Let's just say, the
Lake of fire is not literal and "hell" is the common grave of all
unconscious dead mankind.
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>Now, please explain why God repeatedly doing things
>that are bad or pointless is a good thing.
He doesn't, as shown above.
>
>You told me things that God has done that are bad, such as
>your panic attacks, and you even said God needs to change
>everything.
I have never said that God did things that are bad. Only to the
wrongdoer do things look bad. Because of what humans have done, God
will change everything for the better.
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>>>>Does this sound like God wants us to suffer?
>>>>
>>>>(Revelation 21:3, 4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne
>>>>say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with
>>>>them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.
>>>>4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be
>>>>no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The
>>>>former things have passed away.”
>>>
>>>Yes it does. If God did not want us to suffer he would not have
>>>created conditions that need his corrections, and he would not
>>>tease us with promises.
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>>ALL of God's promises come true. All of them.
>
>Even Matthew 16:28 ?
Yes, even Mt 16:28.
(Matthew 16:28) Truly I say to you that there are some of those
standing here who will not taste death at all until first they see the
Son of man coming in his Kingdom.”
This occurred at the transfiguration. Jesus' face shown like the sun.
It will be that way when Jesus takes over his literal kingdom.
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>>>>If you looked at no other Scriptures, what would you call God here?
>>>
>>>Definitely a sadist.
>>
>>Now I know you are lying. Rev 21:3,4 is all positive things.
>
>You think tears and death and mourning and outcry and pain
>are good things?
>Even God knows he is doing a terrible wrong.
You are misinterpreting it. It says :
"And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no
more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former
things have passed away.”
So God is going to REMOVE those things, not give them to them.
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>>You have
>>not once mentioned God as having some positive virtues.
>
>You haven't told me any good things about God.
"And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no
more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former
things have passed away."
>
>>Even Hitler had some positive attributes. For example, he treated his
>>dog kindly. Although his doctor was killing him with drugs, he treated
>>him kindly.
>
>And the nazis had "God With Us" on their belt buckles.
Yes, they mispelled "God". It should read "god with us". (see 2 Cor
4:4)
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>>>>>>>>(1 John 4:8) Whoever does not love has not come to know God, because
>>>>>>>>God is love.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What else could it be? God was not
>>>>>>>>>compelled to set things up so we suffer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>An infinite IQ can see the future and what is NEEDED for ETERNAL
>>>>>>>>happiness for His creation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Our IQ compared to God's, is about like a flea fetus' IQ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>God was not compelled to set things up so we suffer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And God does not want us to suffer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is God an automaton?
>>>>
>>>>God is an eternally powerful super SPIRIT being.
>>>
>>>Are all spirits automatons?
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>>Spirit beings were not created by flesh and blood.
>
>Are all spirits automatons?
Not even near so. Spirits do not look anything like humans. and are on
a higher level of intelligence.
>
>>>>(John 4:24) God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship
>>>>with spirit and truth.”
>>
>>>What does that mean?
>>
>>The spirit in this case means one's life force. So that could mean to
>>worship God with all of our might.
>
>Worship is stupid.
So is downgrading God. Its like downgrading one's boss. It won't go
well for you.
>
>>And we should worship Him with only truths, no lies or false doctrines.
>
>That won't work.
Why?
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>>>>>>He feels bad that so many people listen to Satan, and do bad things.
>>>>>
>>>>>God must be so embarrassed.
>>>>
>>>>Embarrassment has to do with something negative. God makes no errors,
>>>>thus never gets embarrassed.
>>>
>>>It would be better for God's reputation for you to say God makes
>>>stupid mistakes and has no idea how to correct them.
>>
>>Why don't you just say that God is an idiot. That is what you are
>>describing.
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>That's the way the bible describes God.
>
>>But anyone with a half of brain can see that God is a zillion times that.
>
>God is like a zillion idiots?
>
No, He is like the IQ of an idiot multiplied a zillion times.
>>>>>>>>>>The angels are supposed to live in the spirit world. (whatever that is)
>>>>>>>>>>And the humans in the physical world. We cannot live in their world
>>>>>>>>>>with our physical bodies, but they can live in our world, but are
>>>>>>>>>>invisible to us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You believe that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's right out of the Bible:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(Genesis 6:1, 2) Now when men started to grow in number on the surface
>>>>>>>>of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of the true
>>>>>>>>God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they
>>>>>>>>began taking as wives all whom they chose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(1 Corinthians 15:50) But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and
>>>>>>>>blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit
>>>>>>>>incorruption.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You believe that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>101%
>>>>>
>>>>>Why?
>>>>
Flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom. That means that physical
bodies cannot get into Heaven. They have to have spirit bodies. (like
the angels have)
>>>>Because:
>>>>
>>>>(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for
>>>>teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining
>>>>in righteousness,
>>>
>>>You believe that?
>>
>>Totally!!
>
>Why?
Because I have researched the Bible and found it to be true. (of
course the miracles cannot be proven, so I accept them on faith)