Roberts Liardon is gay?
Miguel
church because he had been carrying on a homosexual love affair with
his live-in assistant. He plans to get married and then come back and
say everything is OK. This info came directly from someone on his
church board. If he does desire change, getting married isn't going
to fix anything, and he should step down for a heck of a lot longer
than that! Here's the link to the article in the LA times, which
speaks of an affair with an "adult". If not a man, why not just
specify a woman? The gender neutral term clearly points to another
man.
http://www.latimes.com/editions/orange/la-000101214dec22.story
Ms. Kurz
the term "Godly televangelist" is an oxymoron. They don't seem to be
in existence.
Here is a link that may answer your questions.
Steven Buehler
participate in the spreading of unsubstantiated rumor but would take the
article at face value, which simply says he had an affair, owned up to his
sin, and is now in the process of repentance.
That's all we need to know.
SWB
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Apparently to Steve Winter, 'balls' is an obscenity but 'slut,' a word he
uses frequently, isn't.
Apparently to Steve Winter, when he lies it's just 'apparent error.' When
someone else lies it's a mortal sin.
What a hypocrite. Pray that you not become like him.
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"Miguel" <greenlan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>I think you have read WAY too much into this article. I would not
>participate in the spreading of unsubstantiated rumor
What a trash, lying hypocrite we find in Mr. Buehler!
Pastor Winter
--
"Winters, you are a blabbering heretic. In a truly godly
nation you would be executed for publicly promoting your
heretical doctrines." - Tom Albrecht trinitarian deceiver 2000
"Copyright infringement my ***" (obscenity deleted) - Brian Boggs cultist 2000
"lying to mr. winter is just a defense" - Mark Bassett UPC Preacher 1999
"It isnt a salvation issue..." - Mark Bassett 1999 regarding Biblical holiness
"Sorry old man. I never lie, if I, can help it." - Raymond W Knapp 2000
"...God is Triune in nature..." - Raymond W Knapp 2000
",I did get saved in a Southern Baptist Church," - Raymond Knapp 2000
http://www.onenesschristian.org Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal
See reprobates Bassett, Moon & Knapp in action: http://www.impsmail.org
Steven Buehler
"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
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> What a trash, lying hypocrite we find in Mr. Buehler!
We know who the REAL hypocrite is every time you open your mouth, Stephen.
Go look in the mirror. Doesn't that 2x4 in your eye bother you?
SWB
Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>> What a trash, lying hypocrite we find in Mr. Buehler!
>
>We know who the REAL hypocrite is every time you open your mouth, Stephen.
Little scum, you posted:
"Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> spake thusly and
wrote:
>I would not
>participate in the spreading of unsubstantiated rumor
You are a regular source of malicious and damaging false
information that you repeatedly deliberately publish. (and
then after the damage is done publish a frivolous apology).
Little scum, if your apologies were sincere, you would cease
from your malicious and libelous activities, but you don't.
That is because Steven Buehler is a low life false-christian
scum who is infuriated and obsessed because he is exposed as
the fake that he is by the Bible studies I publish.
That "demon"strates your hypocrisy. As does
http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
Is the AT&T abuse dept just stupid or corrupt to support
you in your harassment and libel campaigns?
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Steven Buehler
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Stephen, Interland has already been notified of your flagrant violations of
their Acceptable Use Policy in impsmail.org, and your attorney is about to
receive a 30-day notification of my consideration of a Federal suit.
Are you still bluffing, Stephen?
SWB
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Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>Stephen, Interland has already been notified of your flagrant violations of
>their Acceptable Use Policy in impsmail.org, and your attorney is about to
>receive a 30-day notification of my consideration of a Federal suit.
>
>Are you still bluffing, Stephen?
Bluffing? Little false-christian scum Buehler, I am the one
with the attorney.
Everything documented at http://www.impsmail.org is true.
Especially http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
Truth is in no way a violation of their acceptable use policy.
You, little scum, are the one who publishes malicious libel.
I will, however, FAX your threat to my atty.
Steven Buehler
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On Friday, January 4, 2002 12:14 am, Pastor Steve Winter
<steve...@prime.org> wrote in Message-ID
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> Bluffing? Little false-christian scum Buehler, I am the one
> with the attorney.
OOOH, I'm SOOOOOO SCAAAAARREED. In the years you've been making threats
you have yet to follow through.
> I will, however, FAX your threat to my atty.
No need to, Stephen; I just sent my 30-day notice by certified mail today.
- --
To Steve Winter, "balls" is an obscene word but "slut" is not.
To Steve Winter, when someone lies it's a mortal sin; when HE does it's
merely "apparent error."
Who is the real false-christian hypocrite? Decide for yourself.
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"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
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> Bluffing? Little false-christian scum Buehler, I am the one
> with the attorney.
One you apparently have yet to use. A 30-day notice of legal action was
sent to your attorney today by certified mail. I will scan and post the
certified receipt on my web page today as proof that I'm serious.
> Everything documented at http://www.impsmail.org is true.
Strike one.
> Especially http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
Strike two.
> Truth is in no way a violation of their acceptable use policy.
Posting partial or twisted truth for the purposes of defamation *IS* in
violation of their acceptable use policy, and Interland has been notified.
> I will, however, FAX your threat to my atty.
You don't need to; I've already mailed it to him, along with my response to
make sure he's getting BOTH sides of the ENTIRE story.
SWB
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Mark Bassett
"Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> "Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
> news:v9ea3uc2693mcec7d...@4ax.com...
>
> > Bluffing? Little false-christian scum Buehler, I am the one
> > with the attorney.
>
> One you apparently have yet to use. A 30-day notice of legal action was
> sent to your attorney today by certified mail. I will scan and post the
> certified receipt on my web page today as proof that I'm serious.
>
> > Everything documented at http://www.impsmail.org is true.
>
> Strike one.
>
> > Especially http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
>
> Strike two.
>
> > Truth is in no way a violation of their acceptable use policy.
>
> Posting partial or twisted truth for the purposes of defamation *IS* in
> violation of their acceptable use policy, and Interland has been notified.
Boy, I will tell you what - you hit the nail on the head with this one.
Mark Bassett
"Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> "Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
> news:v9ea3uc2693mcec7d...@4ax.com...
>
> > Bluffing? Little false-christian scum Buehler, I am the one
> > with the attorney.
>
> One you apparently have yet to use. A 30-day notice of legal action was
> sent to your attorney today by certified mail. I will scan and post the
> certified receipt on my web page today as proof that I'm serious.
>
> > Everything documented at http://www.impsmail.org is true.
>
> Strike one.
>
> > Especially http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
>
> Strike two.
>
> > Truth is in no way a violation of their acceptable use policy.
>
> Posting partial or twisted truth for the purposes of defamation *IS* in
> violation of their acceptable use policy, and Interland has been notified.
>
> > I will, however, FAX your threat to my atty.
>
> You don't need to; I've already mailed it to him, along with my response
to
> make sure he's getting BOTH sides of the ENTIRE story.
>
> SWB
Stevie might be going to have a little family problem that he wasn't
counting on.
Jim Wardrip
> >
> > > I will, however, FAX your threat to my atty.
> >
> > You don't need to; I've already mailed it to him, along with my response
> to
> > make sure he's getting BOTH sides of the ENTIRE story.
> >
> > SWB
>
> Stevie might be going to have a little family problem that he wasn't
> counting on.
Has Stevie finally met his match? Only time will tell!
JW
Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>
>One you apparently have yet to use. A 30-day notice of legal action was
>sent to your attorney today by certified mail. I will scan and post the
>certified receipt on my web page today as proof that I'm serious.
I am confident that among your ignorant blatherings will be some
useful admissions that you will have fun later trying to deny.
Pastor Winter
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http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Pastor Steve Winter
My my, the reprobate scum of the earth (what a STENCH!!)
are just lining up in support of a malicious lying
trinitarian "hero"!
Pastor Steve Winter
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Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 05:59:50 GMT
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>Posting partial or twisted truth for the purposes of defamation *IS* in
>violation of their acceptable use policy, and Interland has been notified.
Little scum, you sent quite a few emails here after notice
that you email was not welcome. That is harassment by wire.
Then you lied about it so much that I finally documented it
at http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html and documented the
corruption or incompetence of the ATT abuse dept as well.
There are serious penalties for filing a frivolous malicious
lawsuit, Mr. Buehler.
You might want to go ahead and hire an attorney as I believe
you are going to need one for one reason or another pretty
soon now.
You are one of the more malicious and deceitful of the
false-christian dirt that I have ever encountered, Mr.
Buehler.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>> Everything documented at http://www.impsmail.org is true.
>
>Strike one.
>
>> Especially http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
>
>Strike two.
See my reply as:
"Harassment by wire from att.net by Steven W Buehler"
Pastor Steve Winter
Message-Id: <1449886.j...@sanctuaryweb.org>
>To Steve Winter, "*****" is an obscene word but "slut" is not.
(obscenity replaced by ***** in the above quote)
Buehler again "demon"strates his ignorance. If a real
Christian was to have fellowship with Mr. Buehler they
would be a spiritual slut. It is God who chose to use
words like "whore" and "harlot" to speak of trinitarians
like Mr. Buehler.
But where is the scriptural foundation for me to call
someone like Mark Bassett or other spiritual filth names
like "spiritual slut"? Also keep in mind the reprobate
fake oneness dirt that have rallied around Buehler since
he started making frivolous legal threats.
We see organizational descent into whoredom, unholiness and
compromise. God does not want His ministers "bearing with" or
otherwise tolerating false preachers like trinitarians.
Did Paul preach tolerance and fellowship towards deceivers?? Nope!
II Corinthians 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off
occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory,
they may be found even as we.
II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed
into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall
be according to their works.
Did Paul teach tolerance and fellowship towards deceiving filth
like Steven Buehler? Hardly!!
II Corinthians 11:16 I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if
otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.
II Corinthians 11:17 That which I speak, I speak [it] not after the
Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.
II Corinthians 11:18 Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will
glory also.
II Corinthians 11:19 For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye
[yourselves] are wise.
Let's look back a few verses:
II Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for
I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a
chaste virgin to Christ.
II Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted
from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Notice that Paul fears for their LOSS OF CHASTITY and CORRUPTION
II Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye
have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye
might well bear with [him].
Just "bearing with" a trinitarian like Mr. Buehler is defined as
the manifestation of whoredom and corruption (lack of chastity is
"unchaste" or "whorish". One who lacks "fidelity" is an "infidel")
When I call someone a spiritual slut I am being scriptural. When
scum like Mr. Buehler use profanity they merely "demon"strate
their ignorance and bankrupt spirituality.
How does the Word of God command us to relate to false-christian
filth like Mr. Buehler?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man]
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him
be accursed.
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to
please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of
Christ.
Will the real Christians join me in obedience to Gal 1:8-9
regarding Mr. Buehler? Make it a matter of daily prayer as
Buehler is a long hardened deceiver with a hatred for the truth.
II John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine
of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he
hath both the Father and the Son.
II John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine,
receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:
II John 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil
deeds.
It would be sin to even bid God Speed to Steven Buehler!
Let us look back and see what would be the symptoms of the HIGH RISK
group for whoredom and infidelity.
2 Cor 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare
ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring
themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves,
are not wise.
They COMMEND themselves this "high risk" group. They MEASURE
THEMSELVES BY THEMSELVES etc .
2 Cor 10:17 But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
2 Cor 10:18 For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom
the Lord commendeth.
Pastor sTeve Winter
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http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Steven W. Buehler, B.A.
I just finished up a little research into Title 47 of the United
States Code, which is the only statute which would apply if Mr. Winter
ever has the guts to file a suit. The applicable statute states:
(a) Prohibited acts generally
Whoever -
(1) in interstate or foreign communications -
(A) by means of a telecommunications device knowingly -
(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and
(ii) initiates the transmission of,
any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, or other
communication which is obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or
indecent, with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass
another person;
(B) by means of a telecommunications device knowingly -
(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and
(ii) initiates the transmission of,
any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, or other
communication which is obscene or indecent, knowing that the
recipient of the communication is under 18 years of age,
regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed
the call or initiated the communication;
(C) makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications
device, whether or not conversation or communication ensues,
without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy,
abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or
who receives the communications;
(D) makes or causes the telephone of another repeatedly or
continuously to ring, with intent to harass any person at the
called number; or
(E) makes repeated telephone calls or repeatedly initiates
communication with a telecommunications device, during which
conversation or communication ensues, solely to harass any
person at the called number or who receives the communication;
or
(2) knowingly permits any telecommunications facility under
his
control to be used for any activity prohibited by paragraph (1)
with the intent that it be used for such activity,
shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two
years, or both.
However, in 47 USC 223(h)(2), "interactive computer services" are
excluded from the defintion of "telecommunications devices":
(h) Definitions
For purposes of this section -
(1) The use of the term ''telecommunications device'' in this
section -
(A) shall not impose new obligations on broadcasting station
licensees and cable operators covered by obscenity and
indecency provisions elsewhere in this chapter; and
--> (B) does not include an interactive computer service.
(2) The term ''interactive computer service'' has the meaning
provided in section 230(f)(2) of this title.
And what is an "interactive computer service"? Look at 47 USC
230(f)(2):
(f) Definitions
As used in this section:
(1) Internet
The term ''Internet'' means the international computer network
of both Federal and non-Federal interoperable packet switched
data networks.
--> (2) Interactive computer service
The term ''interactive computer service'' means any
information
service, system, or access software provider that provides or
enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server,
including specifically a service or system that provides access
to the Internet and such systems operated or services offered by
libraries or educational institutions.
In other words, STEPHEN WINTER HAS *NO* BASIS TO FILE A HARASSMENT
SUIT UNDER UNITED STATES LAW, even if he could prove that anything I
have done was harassing (which it was only to the fantastic mind of
the self-appointed pastor). Because the issue is one of diversity
(meaning that the parties reside in different states), Mr. Winter can
only file in a United States District court. Mr. Winter would also
have to prove that I sent email to his account solely for the purpose
of harassment, and he simply does not have any proof that there was an
intent to harass from a mere eight messages sent over FIVE YEARS, at
least one of them a formal apology that was also copied to this entire
newsgroup.
Does this mean we should all start mailboming Mr. Winter? Of course
not, and I will not endorse the actions of anyone who does so.
M Bassett
He is a windbag who makes constant use of frivilous threats for the purpose
of intimidation.
"Steven W. Buehler, B.A." <ste...@sanctuaryweb.org> wrote in message
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Steven Buehler
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On Tuesday, January 8, 2002 03:47 pm, M Bassett <mba...@optonline.net>
wrote in Message-ID <SVI_7.16581$ds.20...@news02.optonline.net> :
> Same conclusion I came to years ago with qualified counsel.
>
> He is a windbag who makes constant use of frivilous threats for the
> purpose of intimidation.
Here stands one who by God's grace will not be intimidated.
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Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>In other words, STEPHEN WINTER HAS *NO* BASIS TO FILE A HARASSMENT
>SUIT UNDER UNITED STATES LAW, even if he could prove that anything I
>have done was harassing
See Mr. Buehler's email harassment documented at
http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
Maybe some reading here can remember Mr. Buehler's lying
and denying that he had sent me harassing email. He sure
changed his story after I documented it, didn't he?
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Pastor Steve Winter
>Same conclusion I came to years ago with qualified counsel.
>
>He is a windbag who makes constant use of frivilous threats for the purpose
>of intimidation.
Mr. Bassett is another one who uses email harassment and
other electronic harassment. Some of his history
including some criminal activity is documented
at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html
It is no surprise that he would try to defend others
in similar activity.
Mark Bassett
> "M Bassett" <mba...@optonline.net> spake thusly and wrote:
>
> >Same conclusion I came to years ago with qualified counsel.
> >
> >He is a windbag who makes constant use of frivilous threats for the
purpose
> >of intimidation.
>
> Mr. Bassett is another one who uses email harassment and
> other electronic harassment. Some of his history
> including some criminal activity is documented
> at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html
>
> It is no surprise that he would try to defend others
> in similar activity.
More of Mr Winter's ongoing accusation and lying. He has received apologies
from me for a handful of emails that he has received over many years as a
result of accident and oversight. His constant claims of being harassed are
not only foolish and paranoid - they are getting tiresome to the victims and
to the law enforcement agencies that he regularly burdens.
Mark Bassett
> ste...@sanctuaryweb.org (Steven W. Buehler, B.A.) spake thusly and
> wrote:
>
> >In other words, STEPHEN WINTER HAS *NO* BASIS TO FILE A HARASSMENT
> >SUIT UNDER UNITED STATES LAW, even if he could prove that anything I
> >have done was harassing
>
> See Mr. Buehler's email harassment documented at
> http://www.impsmail.org/buehler.html
>
> Maybe some reading here can remember Mr. Buehler's lying
> and denying that he had sent me harassing email. He sure
> changed his story after I documented it, didn't he?
You are making a fool of yourself.
Steven Buehler
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"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
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> Little scum, you sent quite a few emails here after notice
> that you email was not welcome. That is harassment by wire.
I count only eight on your own web site, Stephen. Hardly "quite a few," and
none meet the legal definition of harassment. You really should stop
exaggerating.
> There are serious penalties for filing a frivolous malicious
> lawsuit, Mr. Buehler.
The same penalty you'll get when you file yours, if you ever muster up
enough guts to do so.
> You might want to go ahead and hire an attorney as I believe
> you are going to need one for one reason or another pretty
> soon now.
I've only issued the same cause you've been threatening against several
others for several years. I guess it's different when it's used against
YOU, isn't it?
> You are one of the more malicious and deceitful of the
> false-christian dirt that I have ever encountered, Mr.
> Buehler.
I thought Mark Bassett had that title.
SWB
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Steven Buehler
> Mr. Bassett is another one who uses email harassment and
> other electronic harassment. Some of his history
> including some criminal activity is documented
> at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html
Mr. Winter -- under Federal Law there is no such thing as 'email harassment'
or 'electronic harassment.'
You may go home now.
SWB
Steven Buehler
> Maybe some reading here can remember Mr. Buehler's lying
> and denying that he had sent me harassing email. He sure
> changed his story after I documented it, didn't he?
Stephen, I never changed a story -- I said I did not send you *HARASSING*
email and that continues to be the truth.
You really do insist on twisting my words to your advantage, don't you? No
matter, since I have nothing to fear from you.
I'm especially interested in how you are able to file criminal complaints
when you are not a district attorney or the officer of any court. The 'IR'
designation in the reports you list indicate that they are INCIDENT REPORTS,
not criminal complaints. If they were criminal complaints your detractors
would have been served or arrested.
Mr. Winter caught in yet another lie ...
SWB
Mark Bassett
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> "Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
> news:l5gf3u4esa53rl5jf...@4ax.com...
>
> > Little scum, you sent quite a few emails here after notice
> > that you email was not welcome. That is harassment by wire.
>
> I count only eight on your own web site, Stephen. Hardly "quite a few,"
and
> none meet the legal definition of harassment. You really should stop
> exaggerating.
>
> > There are serious penalties for filing a frivolous malicious
> > lawsuit, Mr. Buehler.
>
> The same penalty you'll get when you file yours, if you ever muster up
> enough guts to do so.
>
> > You might want to go ahead and hire an attorney as I believe
> > you are going to need one for one reason or another pretty
> > soon now.
>
> I've only issued the same cause you've been threatening against several
> others for several years. I guess it's different when it's used against
> YOU, isn't it?
>
> > You are one of the more malicious and deceitful of the
> > false-christian dirt that I have ever encountered, Mr.
> > Buehler.
>
> I thought Mark Bassett had that title.
I think the title is available to ANYONE who threatens to puch a hole in his
infantile fantasy world, Steven.
Pastor Steve Winter
wrote:
>Stephen, I never changed a story -- I said I did not send you *HARASSING*
>email and that continues to be the truth.
Malicious and lying false-christian scum, Buehler. Any
email sent after notice to cease is harassment.
You have no idea what you have made yourself a party to
by your malicious obsession with me and your actions.
Pastor
Mark Bassett
> "Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> spake thusly and
> wrote:
>
> >Stephen, I never changed a story -- I said I did not send you *HARASSING*
> >email and that continues to be the truth.
>
> Malicious and lying false-christian scum, Buehler. Any
> email sent after notice to cease is harassment.
>
> You have no idea what you have made yourself a party to
> by your malicious obsession with me and your actions.
The "pastor" is saying that he is monsterous force and power who has a
divine dispensation to intimidate with frivilous threats of lawsuit.
Meanwhile others must begin to shake in their boots if Mr Winter moves
beyond the "constant windbag" mode.
Have you considered just taking a walk, meeting someone, and discussing
sports or something, Winter? Surely there are better ways to spend your
elder years on earth, sir.
Talk more about "obsession", Mr Winter. How interesting it will be to watch
your response to examination concerning obsessive behavior and libel, in
view of the record of groups.google.com.
John Fraser
"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
news:hu4p3us08bi5lri9u...@4ax.com...
> "Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> spake thusly and
> wrote:
>
> >Stephen, I never changed a story -- I said I did not send you *HARASSING*
> >email and that continues to be the truth.
>
> Malicious and lying false-christian scum, Buehler. Any
> email sent after notice to cease is harassment.
Are you then declaring that you would be happy to quit if Mssrs. Taylor
and Bassett requested you to cease your routine public defamation of them?
>
> You have no idea what you have made yourself a party to
> by your malicious obsession with me and your actions.
Speaking of obsession, how are you profiting concerning Mssrs. Bassett,
Taylor and a few others against whom you take great pride in routine public
defamation?
Cheers,
John
Mark Bassett
"John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:zF4%7.119$SU.4...@sapphire.mtt.net...
> Good evening Steve;
>
> "Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
> news:hu4p3us08bi5lri9u...@4ax.com...
> > "Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> spake thusly and
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Stephen, I never changed a story -- I said I did not send you
*HARASSING*
> > >email and that continues to be the truth.
> >
> > Malicious and lying false-christian scum, Buehler. Any
> > email sent after notice to cease is harassment.
>
> Are you then declaring that you would be happy to quit if Mssrs.
Taylor
> and Bassett requested you to cease your routine public defamation of them?
John, Steve's game is about private email. Public libel is a whole different
thing that he has no problem with, unless of course someone says that he is
lying when he posts his own libel. :-)
> > You have no idea what you have made yourself a party to
> > by your malicious obsession with me and your actions.
>
> Speaking of obsession, how are you profiting concerning Mssrs.
Bassett,
> Taylor and a few others against whom you take great pride in routine
public
> defamation?
We look cautiously forward to the day when we will have to wean ourselves
from his ample praise.
John Fraser
"Mark Bassett" <mbasset@not_optonline.net> wrote in message
news:uj8%7.15816$rs1.2...@news02.optonline.net...
>
> "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:zF4%7.119$SU.4...@sapphire.mtt.net...
> > Good evening Steve;
> >
> > "Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
> > news:hu4p3us08bi5lri9u...@4ax.com...
> > > "Steven Buehler" <s.w.b...@worldnet.att.net> spake thusly and
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Stephen, I never changed a story -- I said I did not send you
> *HARASSING*
> > > >email and that continues to be the truth.
> > >
> > > Malicious and lying false-christian scum, Buehler. Any
> > > email sent after notice to cease is harassment.
> >
> > Are you then declaring that you would be happy to quit if Mssrs.
> Taylor
> > and Bassett requested you to cease your routine public defamation of
them?
>
> John, Steve's game is about private email. Public libel is a whole
different
> thing that he has no problem with, unless of course someone says that he
is
> lying when he posts his own libel. :-)
Agreed. His term harassing e-mail is like the term child poverty. The
term does not address the true situation and is used to draw attention as is
Mr. Winter's claim is designed to do. While I don't doubt that some of his
received e-mail is intended solely for his harassment, I guess children live
in poverty because they can't get decent paying jobs and not because their
parent's cannot. In this regard, Mr. Winter should not be screaming about
harassing e-mail when he routinely and publicly harasses those with whom he
does not like. You can't have it both ways.
> > > > You have no idea what you have made yourself a party to
> > > by your malicious obsession with me and your actions.
> >
> > Speaking of obsession, how are you profiting concerning Mssrs.
> Bassett,
> > Taylor and a few others against whom you take great pride in routine
> public
> > defamation?
>
> We look cautiously forward to the day when we will have to wean ourselves
> from his ample praise.
Of that I have no doubt! Ah, that 100th sheep ...
Cheers,
John
Raymond
MAKING??
That is a interesting concept.
>
>
>
>
Steven Buehler
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"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve...@prime.org> wrote in message
news:hu4p3us08bi5lri9u...@4ax.com...
> Malicious and lying false-christian scum, Buehler. Any
> email sent after notice to cease is harassment.
You have to prove intent, Stephen, and you can't.
> You have no idea what you have made yourself a party to
> by your malicious obsession with me and your actions.
I haven't made myself a party to anything, Stephen, because under Federal
Law you have no case. I just finished proving that.
It's that simple Stephen. Now shut up and go back to the devil's hell you
came from.
SWB
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Rip
Mark Bassett wrote:
Of course, and why should that be surprising ?
Rod
Mark Bassett
"Rip" <R...@terror.com> wrote in message news:3C3FC881...@terror.com...
No surprise, but would it surprise you to say it was worth extending a hand
to stop people from charging into the traffic? They hardly listen, but its
important to try.
Rip
Mark Bassett wrote:
I agree, but because he is what and who he is, I'm am inclined to ignore that
fact, much in the same manner that he
does. Yes..I am guilty of wanting very much to throttle the man, but did you
believe me alone in that regard ?
Rod
Mark Bassett
de1...@bigpond.com
> I just heard that Roberts Liardon has stepped down from minstry in his
> church because he had been carrying on a homosexual love affair with
> his live-in assistant. He plans to get married and then come back and
> say everything is OK. This info came directly from someone on his
> church board. If he does desire change, getting married isn't going
> to fix anything, and he should step down for a heck of a lot longer
> than that! Here's the link to the article in the LA times, which
> speaks of an affair with an "adult". If not a man, why not just
> specify a woman? The gender neutral term clearly points to another
> man.
> http://www.latimes.com/editions/orange/la-000101214dec22.story
It was a man, his youth pastor.
Some Guy
> I think you have read WAY too much into this article. I would not
> participate in the spreading of unsubstantiated rumor but would take the
> article at face value, which simply says he had an affair, owned up to his
> sin, and is now in the process of repentance.
> That's all we need to know.
> SWB
No, you should also know that this isn't the first time he's done this. When he first came to Spring of Life church in Lancaster california it was because he'd been caught in a homosexual relationship in minnesota (or whichever state it was). If Roberts actually repented then he would admit he's a homosexual. Trying to claim a momentary lapse of judgment is still lying to cover up the real problem.