Sotirios is not enough to stop the cult corruption of the elder or the cult leadership corruption of the hierarchy that supports, enables and protects the cult of ephraim. Volumes could be written and unless practical action that takes risks and is not in fear of the consequences that risk will bring when real action is taken or nothing changes. Do you how much NOTHING is?
The elder is not the primary problem. He is a symptom of the primary problem.
Barrie, do you know what the primary problem is, what is the cause of the elder problem? Sotirios in context of ephraim is really only talking about the symptom and he is not pointing at what the symptom points to as the cause of the elder. Yes, it is well written and it brings up some good points, but it is not the solution. Barrie, what is the solution? Explain it to me. If you had the power and control in authority, what would you bring as solution? The problem has been pointed out for decades now and so where is its practically applied solution or at the very least where is it stated?
I believe the effort of We are Orthodox and Orthodox Truth Reform are over. Yanni is a fine Christian man who is deeply concerned about the welfare of his church. However, he has stated something very wrong and that needs to be addressed. He stated it on the We Are Orthodox website under the article heading Don't Hold Your Breath. I take no pleasure pointing this out. It is painful because I know he has a good heart, but I refuse to play favorites and just like I refuse to play the corrupt religious political game like Jaharis does and that plays favorites. I call them like I see them and no matter who they are. The reason why there is no real Christian critical thinking that is objective about Jaharis from GOTR and WAO is because he is a FAVORITE. You don't hold the co-chairman of the council transparent and accountable when he can't hold the hierarchy and elder transparent and accountable. Get it? No one is really being held transparent and accountable and that is why the entire church structure and system is corrupt and being turned into a cult. There is no objective God standards of accountability the leadership council or the hierarchy are held too. The exclusivity of being Gods only true church and that creates a closed, isolated, insulated and segregated church is the subjective church that will not hold itself objectively transparent and accountable. Until that changes nothing changes. You heard it here first. Now tell me how I got that wrong.
The good Christian man, and I really mean that, commented on the 2014 Jaharis state of the church speech in an article on his website called Don't Hold Your Breath. As much as I regret having to say this, it was weak. My concern is with his misplaced reverence, respect and honor in his thinking in approach to the hierarchy on the issues destroying the GOA. The hierarchy does nothing but disrespect and dishonor the Lord, His people and His church by their systemic corruption and protection of the cult of the elder. The hierarchy does not reverence the Lord they reverence themselves and expect to be held in reverence.
Respect, honor and reverence is EARNED. Unfortunately, Yanni has not learned that yet.
After reading Yanni's comment on the speech I came away with the feeling that Yanni is nearly standing alone now. I could be wrong, but his associates at GOTR have not posted an article for over 5 months. They have been in existence since 2010 and really have been powerless to stop the elder or rally a real grass roots effort to deal with the elder and the corrupt hierarchy.
They have spoken many words but have done little to back those words up with paying the price risk taking and sacrificial action. Playing the religious political game is not paying the price, taking the risk or making the necessary sacrifice. You get the church you pay the price for, take the risk for and make the sacrifice for and if paying the price, taking risk and making the sacrifice is playing the religious political game that only renders them diseased, powerless and pathetic losers.
The losers who play the mind game of the religious political game are over. Their effort is as dead as the religious political disease game whose infection kills. Playing the game kills the effort to stop the disease by becoming the disease itself. Yes, play with an infectious disease and then say you are immune to being infected and being a carrier who spreads the disease. Did spiritual IQ's suddenly drop among all of you to believe that if you play the game you will not be turned into the game played and that is destroying your church? Does this disease that is a disease of your mind, how you think, drop your spiritual intelligence? Does it spiritually dumb you down?
Jaharis got the disease wrong and so Jaharis will get the cure to the disease wrong and nothing that really needs to change is going to change. More than the elder needs to change. For instance, and contrary to what Yanni states, the approach to the hierarchy needs to change or nothing changes. Has anyone of you noticed how the current approach to the hierarchy has resulted in no change? Yes, I know, not a one of you has connected those dots. Let me explain it to you with crayons.
Here is the PICTURE drawn with crayons. When I see pictures of Jaharis at the 2014 Congress with the hierarchy I see how much he is being stone walled by playing their rigged religious political power and control game. The game is the disease and not the elder Jaharis spoke too in his 2012 speech. Jaharis is playing this sick religious political disease game with the sick hierarchy. The disease is the game they play. The elder is just a symptom of the real disease that is the sick Christian cult church the GOA. Those who play this game are showing how infected they are by the disease.
Barrie, do you have a different picture of what you see than I do when you see pictures of Jaharis being reverencing, respecting and honoring of the corrupt church hierarchy at the 2014 congress? What do those pictures tell you what he is doing by being there? Is he stopping the elder and dealing with the corruption of the hierarchy? Is he in trouble and suffering consequences for his UNCOMPROMISING STAND that does not play the corrupt hierarchy religious political game that renders anyone who plays it powerless? Do the pictures reveal Jaharis powerless by having turned his power over to the corrupt rulers he willingly submits too as Gods appointed corrupt authority over his life or does he strike you in those pictures as being under the authority of Christ and operating in the power of the Holy Spirit? Where you see Jaharis in those pictures can you imagine Jesus being in the place of Jaharis in those pictures? Would Jesus be found in those pictures like Jaharis is considering how corrupt and cultic the GOA is in the reality of the real world where Jesus really lives?
Be very thoughtful and careful in how you answer. That is, if you have the spiritual courage to answer. Yes, explain to me how Jaharis is operating like Jesus if you believe he is operating like a spiritually mature Christian leader in his senior role and position on the council.
Play that rigged game that is designed to steal your power and manipulate you and you will end up a manipulated powerless puppet pawn being played on the evil strings of the John 8:42-44 hierarchy in their game of sick systemically corrupt and corporate unrepentant disease. Play the game and the toxic of the disease will kill anything you try to do to bring cure to the corrupt religious political disease game.
Jaharis not speaking the name of the unnamed person in his last section of his 2012 and 2014 speeches is him playing the sick, pathetic and powerless religious political disease game. It exposes how infected sick that he is by the disease that is the whole structure and system of the entire GOA. He is the co-chairman of the diseased church leadership council. He co-leads the disease and when he plays the game of the disease he systemically spreads it. He reinforces it by playing it and believes that by playing it that will somehow bring about the desired solution. There will be no solution coming out of that game being played and only a spiritually immature spiritual fool would believe that there will be. False hope is hope in the game providing the solution. God is not playing that game with the council, the hierarchy or JAHARIS and that is exactly why He cannot and is not going to bring solution. It is the game of corporate unrepentant sin and bondage and God don't play that game no matter who playing that game believe they are in their corrupt church of the powerless making religious political game. Was Jesus in the Gospels religious political leadership or was God the Father centered spiritually mature Christian leadership. Was Jesus a religious political ruler or a spiritual ruler? If you can't see the religious political game being played in the GOA the only reason why is because you are playing it. If you agree that playing it will lead to solution you are as sick as the game being played and the game is playing YOU!
If you can erase the persons name you can erase his memory and what really happened to him in the hands of the disease that is the GOA. What, you don't know who I am talking about and because you don't know the unnamed persons name? Erase his name and you erase his worth, value and significance as a Christian created in the image of God. His life is as expendable as is his name with Jaharis playing this don't speak his name game. Jaharis, the corrupt religious codependent enabler of the game, went along with the hierarchy requirement that the unnamed persons name not be named.
Jaharis is a shame based Christian leader leading in a shame based church that shames by not stating this unnamed persons name. It is the shamed and shaming game the corrupt religious political game plays. Was this unnamed person shamed to his death by the dead church that is shamed based? Shame killed this 'person' like it is now killing this 'persons' name that the shaming Jaharis cannot speak? Is shame killing the GOA?
Oh, I see, shame is the solution to shame based corrupt religious political game that shames. Jaharis shaming this deceased person by not stating his name is the solution to what shamed him to his death. Makes perfect sane rational sense to those who exist in the irrational shame based church. Jaharis is Yanni's hero who he places his hope in to bring solution by shame and that is why he will not hold him objectively transparent and accountable. Yanni, is playing the shame game like Jaharis plays the corrupt religious political game that shames. This entire shame based church is a giant systemically corrupt religious political game that shames and all are involved in the shame game it plays and that renders them powerless by shame. They can no more release that council monastery report as they can say this unnamed persons name. Yes, so tell me how they are not playing the shame based church religious political game that shames them into powerlessness by shamelessly stealing their power that they by shame willing hand over to the shame based church to use their power to shame them into powerlessness with. It is vicious circle of shamed and shaming. Jaharis is shamed and shaming in his playing this shame game.
The unnamed person was part of the GOA church family? This unnamed person has a family of origin? What is the name of his family of origin? The elder was this unnamed persons spiritual FATHER in the monastery that is part of the GOA church family?
Looks like to me that since Jaharis will not speak this unnamed persons name he was never a member of the GOA church family and that the church leadership is , in effect, excommunicating this unnamed person and his name. Is this unnamed person not written in the Book of Eternal Life? Oh, I see it isn't and so this person is not part of the greater family of God and where God the Father is his Father in heaven and because he is not in heaven.
If his name is not written in the book of eternal life then why should Jaharis speak this unnamed persons name? He never was part of the GOA church family and so why even mention his name? This person has no worth, value or significance to God and so why mention his name? His name means nothing like his life means nothing to those who will not speak this persons name.
Of course, no one at GOTR or WAO has ever mentioned that Jaharis will not speak this persons name or why he will not. They are playing the corrupt, pathetic, powerless and loser religious political game right along with Jaharis. They are diseased and at the same time believe they are the cure to the disease. If you point out why the unnamed persons name is being played with by the corrupt religious political gamer Michael Jaharis that would mean holding him transparent and accountable objectively and he will not be seen as the brave hero, but will instead be seen as he really is as a spiritual coward by his not speaking this persons name. It would expose why and how Jaharis is playing the sick religious political game, it will expose his sickness in playing it.
Brain cancer is going to cure brain cancer. The diseased mind is going to cure the diseased mind. The disease is the cure to the disease by playing the disease game in their sick Orthodox Minds. Playing the sick diseased religious political game is the cure to the sick disease of the religious political game in their sick game playing minds. Play that sick game and your effort will become as sick as that game and you will not only lose game you will lose your effort to stop the very sick game all of you are playing. You cannot stop the game or the disease by playing the game and being the disease that plays the sick game that is the disease.
Not saying this unnamed persons name may seem like a LITTLE matter. In reality it is the little of the little leaven that leavens the whole lump. It is a symptom of the disease pointing right at Jaharis as a CARRIER of the disease by playing the religious political game that is the disease. It exposes the leavened state of Jaharis on the leavened council in the leavened church.
Yanni, didn't notice that Jaharis addressed the EP and Astoria, NY in his 2012 state of the church speech and that he also didn't in his 2014 state of the church speech? Two times in a row. Why is that? Did he omit it intentionally like Jaharis did along with the unnamed persons name? Yes, tell me how that is not all of you being the disease that plays the disease game. Has Astoria NY been erased like this unnamed persons name has been erased? Did the EP speaking to the 2014 congress by Skype have anything religious political game to do with why Jaharis did not bringing Astoria, NY up?
Oh, but, Ashley, are you not appreciating that Jaharis still brought the issue up of the unnamed persons death and the problem with the monastery? Aren't you glad he didn't forget about it? It looks like to me that the unnamed person is just a pawn being played in the religious political game. It looks like to me this unnamed person is just a means to some end Jaharis wants to accomplish by playing the rigged, powerless and loser religious political game. A pawn does not have a name like in a child's board game. It is an object played in the game. The unnamed person is not a person. The pawn is an object and not a person. A pawn is expendable and so is this unnamed persons name and the person himself. GOTR and WAO tell me how I got that wrong.
With men like Jaharis on your side you might as well believe that the disease is the cure to the disease. Yes, what is diseased is on your side. Only a spiritual moron would believe that. Jaharis is the disease like the council, hierarchy, elder and entire church is the disease. The GOA is the disease and everyone in it is the diseased. Playing the game of the disease is the systemic spread of its pathology through the entire structure and system of the diseased church.
There will be no cure coming to the disease that is the GOA when those who say they want to bring a cure to the corrupt and failed state of their church are the disease itself. If you play the sick religious political game you are sick with the disease of the game. Those with spiritual EBOLA cannot bring a cure to their sick state. Those who will not separate themselves from the dead body of their diseased church will be infected just like those who will not separate themselves from the dead body of an EBOLA victim become infected and spread the disease to others.
All analogies break down at a certain point but no analogy can really describe the breakdown of this dead body of a church killed by the religious political sick diseased game everyone plays in this corporately systemically corrupt and unrepentant in bondage Christian cult church.
Yes, approach the hierarchy like Yanni tells you too and see what they deliver in return to you. How has that approach methodology turned out for all of you? Its the cure to the disease, right? So, where is the cure then?
The definition of insanity is using the same failed methodology over and over again believing that the next time it used that it will not fail. The insanity is the result of the disease that infects the mind. How you think determines your effort outcome in the real world. How your diseased church thinks has determined its real world outcome. How a deceased church killed the disease think is dead. Yes, tell me how those who play the game of the disease are not the disease that ultimately kills the church dead.
The new save the GOA strategy that Jaharis believes in is the cure to the sick diseased state of the GOA? He supports the systemically corrupt hierarchy in the save the GOA strategy and at the same time wants the elder who they enable,support and protect to come down. The corrupt hierarchy is not the disease, but the elder is and so the elder goes and the corrupt hierarchy that is the real corrupt power and control causing the disease corruption of the entire GOA stays. That's a strategy that is the solution cure to the disease killing the GOA?
Yanni, how failed does your approach methodology have to get before you figure out it is a failed approach methodology? It has been the methodology since 2010 and it has not worked. In another 4 years it will work? Not exposing Jaharis by objective transparency and accountability is going to cure the disease?
Yanni, there is no easy way of telling you this. You have the disease. You are the generational transmission of it, the systemic spread of it. The disease has infected you in ways you do not see and that is a symptom of this disease. It blinds you and since it is a disease of the mind it tells your mind what its cure is and so it will never be cured. The disease is a liar who steals the mind to steal the church to kill the church once it is owned by the disease that stole it. The disease turns the church into the disease and NO ONE escapes being infected. Oh, I see, Yanni and his associates believe they are cured of the disease and when no one is immune in a structure and system of church this deeply infected and for this long of a period of time being infected and where everyone in this church culture of disease is indoctrinated by and into the disease.
Any save the GOA strategy is infected with the disease and the disease will kill the strategy dead.
I know what your church future is for its next generation. It is a continuation of the disease that is the GOA and unfortunately Yanni is my proof.
There is a cure to the disease but the disease of the mind that this disease is will convince those infected that their methodology that does not cure the disease is the cure to the disease. Approach the disease with respect, honor and reverence and that will cure it, right, Yanni? Play the disease game and believe that is its cure, right, Yanni?
The real tragedy here is that the next generation of leaders in the GOA is practicing the same powerless making and corrupt religious political game as the previous generation did. Generational transmission of the corrupt religious political game is alive and well in the GOA and at the same time the GOA is dead and sick for it.
Now, of course, I have this all wrong. The game being played says so and who can argue with the Gods only true Christians in Gods only true church when they are always so God right and true about themselves and their corrupt, failed, irrelevant, abusive, incompetent, cultic and dying outcome proves how Gods only true and right that they are. The religious political powerless and corruption making game proves that it is the authority of Christ in the power of Holy Spirit that is the God leading the GOA through men like Jaharis, the hierarchy and the leadership of the council. Why Jesus played this same powerless and corruption making game with the Sanhedrin and Pharisee's in the Gospels. He is the role model to those who play this rigged pathetic loser making game. He approached those who were the corrupt, exclusively God right and true, self centered and self protective rulers of authoritarian power and control with reverence, respect, loyalty, honor and in submission to their authority. He was all about Greek Orthodox nice etiquette, reverencing protocol and polite manners in His relationship with the evil one and those under his rule power and control and that wanted to kill Him. You know, like all of the Greek Orthodox want the same relationship with those who kill their church dead. Christ never aired their dirty laundry in front of them when He was in their midst or where they were gathered together. He never showed up in person where they were gathered and backed His words up with price paying, risk taking and sacrificial action that confronted them to their faces right in front of each other. He never took them on when He was vastly outnumbered. He was easily intimidated, coerced and threatened and made afraid of the consequences if He showed up and confronted them in a fashion they would not want or like.
Considering this is the reality of the situation that Christ accepted it would just not have been the right time and place to confront them. He came to us at the wrong time and so it was not the time to stand. It had not gotten corrupt enough yet to take action. He interacted, negotiated and compromised with them in their religious political game He played with them and He did that with the highest honor, reverence and respect of them. He believed that was the solution. Jesus did not come as the cure to the disease. He came as the disease itself so that He would be accepted by the disease and so that they would listen and believe Him. Jesus bowed in submission to the disease as His God appointed authority. If He confronted the disease and that offended the disease then the disease never could have been cured by its reaction to His confrontation. They never would have gone along with Him as the cure if He had confronted them and turned them against Him. He walked among them as if He was walking on egg shells. Break the shells and He would have broke unity with them and then where would He had been left without them being in unity with Him? He needed them or He would fail without them. The only thing left that would save them was Christ playing their game with them and that's why He played along with them.
If that previous paragraph sounds ridiculous just ask Yanni if that is not how Jesus Christ came to us and approached those who believed they were Gods only true religious rulers and who believed no rule compared to their God only right and true rule.
Not to worry when Jaharis dies or retires from the council he will be replaced with the same shame based religious game player laity leader or worse. Like the hierarchy has not already figured that out and are not wanting someone 100% in their corrupt camp in that position on the council and like they don't have the power and control to make that happen. Like they don't want to erase Jaharis and replace him with who will help erase any issue that points right at their systemic corruption. Like they will allow a person into that position who will not submit too and obey their corrupt religious political game. Like they ever would have allowed Jaharis into this position had they known he would end up being a problem for them. Having said that, he is not a problem they can't handle for how he plays their corrupt religious political game. It is the person who absolutely will not tolerate or play the game that they fear and so they really have nothing to fear from Jaharis or anyone they replace him with. Jaharis is neutralized and they know it. He neutralized himself by playing their neutralizing game that renders those who play it powerless neutralized.
Don't hold your breath with the highest honor, reverence and respect. Play the shame based corrupt religious political game with the highest honor, reverence and respect for it and those who play it and rule over it. Yanni, the message you sent was crystal, honor, reverence and respect corrupt and unrepentant senior church rulers and as if they were holy men of God worthy of honor, reverence and respect they have earned. Your effort and stand is over when you advocate that. It is no wonder why your church is over in America and why no save the GOA strategy will work if that is thinking and attitude towards the corrupt rulers who lead the strategy and who will not repent.
Yanni, if it comes down to don't hold your breath then why stay and waste your breath on what is not going to change? I know why you stay. You are part of the game being played and that plays you into staying with the game. I am not going to hold my breath waiting to see if your change your mind about how you stated to approach the sick disease with honor, reverence and respect. That has about as much a chance of happening as the save the GOA strategy will see success.
I am very sad for you Yanni. You represent the hope of the future of your church and now by how you see the corrupt authority I see what your generation means for your church future. Nothing is going to change. It is all just going to grow worse and worse. Mark my words Yanni, it is all just going to grow worse and worse. You could have been a catalyst of change and you could have led your generation into that change but not now. Jesus in the Gospels is not your role model the corrupt religious political game being played is your role model. You are a product of the culture of church corruption indoctrination that reverences, honors and respects the rulers of the corrupt religious political game that they play. There is no other approach to them than reverence, honor and respect that they have not earned. The wages of their sin has earned your church the state of being a Christian cult. Your rulers have exactly what they want from you and that is reverence, honor and respect in approaching them and no matter what they have done and no matter how corrupt they become.