The Palin Pick
AGGreen
The Palin Pick
By NRO Editors
By picking Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has
wowed the public and enthused the Right. He has reinforced some of his
winning themes - that he has the mindset of an outsider and a fighter
against corruption. He has also reinforced his appeal as the candidate more
in touch with traditional values on moral issues.
None of McCain's possible choices was perfect, and attention is being paid
to the way that Palin undercuts other McCain themes, such as the importance
of experience in foreign policy. Palin will have to reassure voters of her
steadiness when she speaks at the Republican convention and when she debates
Joe Biden. McCain, meanwhile, will have to carry most of the foreign-policy
load himself and showcase his good health.
We hope that the choice of Palin also signals a decisive turn toward a
campaign theme of fighting for the middle class. McCain and Palin can and
should say that they will fight to protect Americans from our foreign
enemies, to stop liberal excesses, and to reform dysfunctional institutions.
They should not accept the portrait of middle-class Americans as hapless
victims that so many of the Democratic speakers this week portrayed; but
they need to show that they share middle-class frustrations. Strength in
foreign policy; reforms of taxes and health care geared to the middle class;
and a moderate social conservatism: It's a potentially winning message, and
now Republicans have a ticket that is suited to it.
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nick cobb
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Stephen Adams
>A move of desperation. He WILL still lose!
Keep telling yourself that Nick. The pick was *brilliant*
-Stephen
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Joe Orthodox
> nick cobb <nick...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> A move of desperation. He WILL still lose!
>
> Keep telling yourself that Nick. The pick was *brilliant*
>
> -Stephen
Notice how it took Nick awhile to react today. Must have been a deep
shock to his system.
The Black Monk
candidate is a guy who finished 794th out of a class of 800 in the
Naval Academy (probably only made it in because his father was an
admiral) and the person a heartbeat away from the presidency is a
former Miss Congeniality, sports newscaster, who has a Bachelor's
degree in communication from the University of Idaho.
Good luck, America, if those two get elected.
BM
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Alexander Arnakis
>nick cobb <nick...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>A move of desperation. He WILL still lose!
>
>Keep telling yourself that Nick. The pick was *brilliant*
>
No, it wasn't. Paul Begala says it was an insane choice.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/begala.palin/index.html
AGGreen
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***Good opinion piece...but he IS a Democrat!
Stephen Adams
>Stephen Adams wrote:
>> nick cobb <nick...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> A move of desperation. He WILL still lose!
>>
>> Keep telling yourself that Nick. The pick was *brilliant*
>
>shock to his system.
Obama can't lose to Obama can't win to Obama can't lose in the last
2 weeks. What's got him rattled is that a Republican will be the
first woman VP. And who knows where she goes from there. :-)
Stephen Adams
>She seems like a very decent person. Still, the presidential
>candidate is a guy who finished 794th out of a class of 800 in the
>Naval Academy (probably only made it in because his father was an
>admiral) and the person a heartbeat away from the presidency is a
>former Miss Congeniality, sports newscaster, who has a Bachelor's
>degree in communication from the University of Idaho.
>
>Good luck, America, if those two get elected.
Her executive/management resume is miles longer than Obama's. If
we're worried about 'experience' with regard to the ticket, you are
looking at the wrong ticket. The *real* concern should be over the
inexperience of the TOP of the ticket.
Sure, McCain graduated low in his class. And pretty much everyone
who gets into Anapolis has to 'know somebody' or get help (ie. an
appointment to the Academy). But he did graduate. And he did serve
his country with distinction.
By the way, when people see my degree, they don't ask if I was 1st in
my class or last. Mainly because it makes no real difference.
Stephen Adams
I read it already. He's reacting out of shock. And of course,
we turn the lens on Obama and oops, who is in more trouble?? I
guess then that the entire Democratic Party is insane for picking
Obama!
nick cobb
for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
think so!
Joe Orthodox
This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
experience than Obama. She used to run her own business and has been an
executive of a huge state with natural resources bordering two
countries, one of which is Russia. Obama hasn't run anything except
street agitation. No business (not even a private law practice), no
foreign policy, no executive experience. The legislative
accomplishments aren't there, either. Why is this guy the Democratic
nominee?
AGGreen
***So, elect Obama and have a bumbling, inexperienced person as
president!!!!! LOL and ROTF!!!!
AGGreen
"Joe Orthodox" <spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote in message
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***Joe, what does this say about today's crop of Democrats. Today's party is
soooo much different from the party of FDR and JFK.
nick cobb
over? Not on your life. A losing ticket with an old geezer and a
bumbling administrator from the hot spot of solving US and
International issues - backward Alaska!
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***There have been several stories already on CNN and FOXNews about Palin's
take-no-prisoners governing style. Apparently she is one tough gal.
Stephen Adams
>McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>for him.
She has more experience than Obama. Keep raising this issue, it
will be the end of Obama.
>I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
If women voting for McCain/Palin because Palin is a woman, what
does that make people who are voting for Obama because he is black?
Go ahead, make this an issue. It will backfire.
>Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>think so!
That's what the country will get with the PRESIDENTIAL candidate on
the Democratic side. That will look FAR more risky. If the Dems want
to ensure a loss, they'll make inexperience an issue.
The genious move by McCain has effectively disarmmed the Democrats.
They have nothing but class warfare to sell now, and THAT is a sure
loser.
Alexander Arnakis
>
>I read it already. He's reacting out of shock. And of course,
>we turn the lens on Obama and oops, who is in more trouble?? I
>guess then that the entire Democratic Party is insane for picking
>Obama!
>
views and record are placed under the media microscope and subjected
to partisan attacks. She's (a) unqualified, and (b) extremely
right-wing. This may actually be what McCain is expecting, since it
allows him to get past the convention and then pick his real favorite,
who may be a Ridge or a Lieberman. Or maybe I'm giving McCain too much
credit for brains.
Alexander Arnakis
<spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>
>This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
>experience than Obama. She used to run her own business and has been an
>executive of a huge state with natural resources bordering two
>countries, one of which is Russia. Obama hasn't run anything except
>street agitation. No business (not even a private law practice), no
>foreign policy, no executive experience. The legislative
>accomplishments aren't there, either. Why is this guy the Democratic
>nominee?
The difference is that Obama has run a successful national nominating
campaign. Palin was at 2% among Republicans, as a VP choice, before
the announcement was made. She has no national *political* experience.
That's going to really hurt her. I wouldn't be surprised if she
implodes politically soon after the convention. It's like Bush's
Harriet Miers choice for the Supreme Court.
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***So, elect Obama and have a bumbling, inexperienced person as
>president!!!!! LOL and ROTF!!!!
I didn't see any "bumbling" evident in Thursday night's acceptance
speech!
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***Joe, what does this say about today's crop of Democrats. Today's party is
>soooo much different from the party of FDR and JFK.
The *Republican* party was so devoid of talent that they had to pick
an unknown bimbo from Alaska to be Vice President?!
Alexander Arnakis
>
>By the way, when people see my degree, they don't ask if I was 1st in
>my class or last. Mainly because it makes no real difference.
>
such as medicine or certain technical areas, you're probably right.
But in a low-demand field, such as history or political science, it
makes a big difference. The fact that I graduated Phi Beta Kappa and
with High Honors undoubtedly helped me.
College achievement matters in the first few years after graduation.
After that, actual career performance trumps it. I'd say that McCain
is past the point where his Academy standing is relevant. We should be
judging him on the future, not the past, and his vision for a future
America is sorely lacking.
Alexander Arnakis
The gal from the Lenscrafters sales brochure! "Maverick and MILF" and
"McSame and Mooseburger" -- the late-night comics are having a field
day!
The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
man) and his bimbo. He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
I'll tell you, the traditionalists in the South aren't going to like
this -- especially older women, who feel threatened by uppity younger
women. There's the meme of the younger home-wrecker out there.
Stephen Adams
>You have to be kidding! This woman to be President if McCain drops
>over? Not on your life.
Keep it up Nick, you are making an argument to not elect Obama every
time you scream about her lack of experience. Her resume is LONGER
than Obama's, and you insist HE is ready to be President. What a
hypocrite you are!
>A losing ticket with an old geezer and a bumbling administrator from the
>hot spot of solving US and International issues - backward Alaska!
It's a winning ticket. That's why you are so worked up. Obama has NOTHING
now except to campaign on class warfare and hatred of George Bush. That's
a sure loser.
Stephen Adams
>On 30 Aug 2008 12:31:09 GMT, Stephen Adams <ada...@no.spam> wrote:
>>
>>I read it already. He's reacting out of shock. And of course,
>>we turn the lens on Obama and oops, who is in more trouble?? I
>>guess then that the entire Democratic Party is insane for picking
>>Obama!
>>
>Palin may implode sometime after the Republican Convention, when her
>views and record are placed under the media microscope and subjected
>to partisan attacks.
You hope this happens. Otherwise you get 4 more years of Republicans
in the White House.
>She's (a) unqualified,
More qualified than Obama. By a long shot. Keep this up and Obama
is the one who will suffer!!
>and (b) extremely right-wing.
She's no further to the right than Obama is to the left! Obama and Biden
are two of the most left-wing Senators! Again, keep up this line and it's
bad for Obama. God & Guns are *positives* in the states McCain needs to
win. That's the beauty of this selection.
>This may actually be what McCain is expecting, since it allows him to get
>past the convention and then pick his real favorite, who may be a Ridge
>or a Lieberman. Or maybe I'm giving McCain too much credit for brains.
Your dream is that he picks Lieberman since you think that's a loser for
the Republicans (so do I). Of course, you THEN think McCain is so stupid
that HE can't see this and made a stealth pick.
You are REALLY grasping for straws now, Alex. This pick has rattled you
to your core. You see the handwriting on the wall and can't deal with
it. I've said all along Obama was going down. I'm more convinced than
ever now.
Of course, I still intend to vote Libertarian. I don't think either the
Republicans or Democrats are the answer.
Stephen Adams
He can read a great speech. He's not so hot when he's not reading from
a script. Why do you think he rejected the town hall meetings with
McCain. Watch Obama fall behind and come *begging* for ANY chance to
meet McCain one-on-one. His only hope now is a grave error by McCain.
Stephen Adams
That's low. A bimbo? She has 5 kids, one of them a special needs kid,
who appears to be a loyal mother and wife, as well as a reforming politician.
Attacks like this only make you (and the Democrats) look petty. And afraid.
She has more experience governing and managing than Obama does. And YOU
think he's a great nominee for the Democrats. That's blatant hypocracy.
Stephen Adams
>The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
>really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
>man) and his bimbo. He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
>I'll tell you, the traditionalists in the South aren't going to like
>this -- especially older women, who feel threatened by uppity younger
>women. There's the meme of the younger home-wrecker out there.
In your dreams. Not one WHIFF of this in her past. This gutter-level
inuendo is beneath you, Alex. Man, you ARE rattled.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***LOL! That dark cloud over your head is about to pour down rain!
AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
> Alexander Arnakis <inv...@address.none> writes:
>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:18:30 -0400, "AGGreen"
>><AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>>>
>>>***Joe, what does this say about today's crop of Democrats. Today's party
>>>is
>>>soooo much different from the party of FDR and JFK.
>>
>>The *Republican* party was so devoid of talent that they had to pick
>>an unknown bimbo from Alaska to be Vice President?!
>
> That's low. A bimbo? She has 5 kids, one of them a special needs kid,
> who appears to be a loyal mother and wife, as well as a reforming
> politician.
> Attacks like this only make you (and the Democrats) look petty. And
> afraid.
>
> She has more experience governing and managing than Obama does. And YOU
> think he's a great nominee for the Democrats. That's blatant hypocracy.
***Thrice holy Amen, Amen, Amen.
AGGreen
more than $1600 a year in oil royalties. I'll be Connecticut doesn't give
you money back!! LOL.
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AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
> nick cobb <nick...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>You have to be kidding! This woman to be President if McCain drops
>>over? Not on your life.
>
> Keep it up Nick, you are making an argument to not elect Obama every
> time you scream about her lack of experience. Her resume is LONGER
> than Obama's, and you insist HE is ready to be President. What a
> hypocrite you are!
>
>>A losing ticket with an old geezer and a bumbling administrator from the
>>hot spot of solving US and International issues - backward Alaska!
>
> It's a winning ticket. That's why you are so worked up. Obama has
> NOTHING
> now except to campaign on class warfare and hatred of George Bush. That's
> a sure loser.
***Nearly all the Democratic ads on TV seem to give the impression that
George Bush is running for re-election. What losers!
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:08:55 -0500, Joe Orthodox
> <spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>>
>>This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
>>experience than Obama. She used to run her own business and has been an
>>executive of a huge state with natural resources bordering two
>>countries, one of which is Russia. Obama hasn't run anything except
>>street agitation. No business (not even a private law practice), no
>>foreign policy, no executive experience. The legislative
>>accomplishments aren't there, either. Why is this guy the Democratic
>>nominee?
>
> The difference is that Obama has run a successful national nominating
> campaign. Palin was at 2% among Republicans, as a VP choice, before
> the announcement was made. She has no national *political* experience.
> That's going to really hurt her.
***Nope!
I wouldn't be surprised if she
> implodes politically soon after the convention. It's like Bush's
> Harriet Miers choice for the Supreme Court.
***Nope! Nice try, though.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***Alex, Alex, Alex. Are all Democrats given to such silly statements?
Giving a speech and actually governing are very far apart.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT), nick cobb
> <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>>for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>>Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>>bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>>think so!
>
> The gal from the Lenscrafters sales brochure! "Maverick and MILF" and
> "McSame and Mooseburger" -- the late-night comics are having a field
> day!
***Palin dines on caribou.
>
> The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
> really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
> man) and his bimbo.
***You're a jealous old fart. McCain's got a hot wife and a hot VP
candidate. Eat your frickin' heart out.
He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
***LOL!
Joe Orthodox
They can't elevate the best candidate possible. Their nominating
process is too democratic and doesn't match up with the winner-take-all
electoral system in the general election. They tried to build a hybrid
superdelegate/pure democracy nominating framework where the supers would
temper the excesses of the fringe activists, but we saw how the
superdelegates were afraid of the mob and didn't do what they were
designed to do.
Joe Orthodox
Because scripted, rehearsed speeches are all he knows. The Georgian
bumbling and mumbling are probably warning signs of what's to come.
Joe Orthodox
Biden is old enough to be Obama's daddy. In fact, I'm betting he and
the white silver tops in the Democratic leadership were rooting for him
because they're expecting to "own our boy" when he's in the WH.
BTW, those older white women in the South, the ones you've called
racists, are more likely to feel threatened by an African-American,
particularly one with liberal social values and liberal ideas on
security and public safety. As with the things Nick wrote, what you're
writing here can be applied to Obama times a hundred.
AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
> Alexander Arnakis <inv...@address.none> writes:
>
>>The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
>>really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
>>man) and his bimbo. He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
>>I'll tell you, the traditionalists in the South aren't going to like
>>this -- especially older women, who feel threatened by uppity younger
>>women. There's the meme of the younger home-wrecker out there.
>
> In your dreams. Not one WHIFF of this in her past. This gutter-level
> inuendo is beneath you, Alex. Man, you ARE rattled.
***He sure is. Count the number of times he told me to go f--- my self.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
> On 30 Aug 2008 12:31:09 GMT, Stephen Adams <ada...@no.spam> wrote:
>>
>>I read it already. He's reacting out of shock. And of course,
>>we turn the lens on Obama and oops, who is in more trouble?? I
>>guess then that the entire Democratic Party is insane for picking
>>Obama!
>>
> Palin may implode sometime after the Republican Convention, when her
> views and record are placed under the media microscope and subjected
> to partisan attacks. She's (a) unqualified,
***Maybe she has this in common with OwsamaBama.
and (b) extremely
> right-wing.
***Oh darn. Are only extreme left-wingers allowed to run for president or
vice president.
This may actually be what McCain is expecting, since it
> allows him to get past the convention and then pick his real favorite,
> who may be a Ridge or a Lieberman. Or maybe I'm giving McCain too much
> credit for brains.
***You're giving yourself too much credit for lack of brains with such
stupidity.
Stephen Adams
That seems to be the limit of many Democrats thinking at this point. And
with the pick of Palin, they realize they were playing the wrong game. But
the problem is, their policies are out of touch with America, and all they
have left is class warfare. Heck, Bush's ratings are *rising* (which I
never expected).
The Economist sums it up nicely:
"There is a genuine chance that, even after almost eight years of George
Bush’s calamitous presidency, the voters may actually opt for another stint
of Republican administration. In part this reflects the weaknesses that lie
alongside the charismatic skills paraded by Mr Obama in Denver this week:
his inexperience, especially in foreign affairs, at a time when the world
looks more and more complex and troubling, and a certain cerebral aloofness
that seems to make it hard for him to connect with Middle America. But a big
part of the reason is that, in Mr McCain (see article), the Republicans have
rallied round the only candidate who could have saved them."
And when the Dems screech about Palin, they hurt Obama more. It's the
perfect trick-box.
Alexander Arnakis
>
>You hope this happens. Otherwise you get 4 more years of Republicans
>in the White House.
>
Ridge would have been stronger electorally, to say nothing about
Romney.
>
>More qualified than Obama. By a long shot. Keep this up and Obama
>is the one who will suffer!!
>
nomination campaign. She has nothing to compare. Prior to the surprise
announcement, she was hardly a blip on even the *Republican* radar.
>
>She's no further to the right than Obama is to the left! Obama and Biden
>are two of the most left-wing Senators! Again, keep up this line and it's
>bad for Obama. God & Guns are *positives* in the states McCain needs to
>win. That's the beauty of this selection.
>
the victims of rape or incest. Nor do most people in those states want
the teaching of creationism in the public schools.
She's a "Christian Dominionist," in action if not in words. That's all
I need to know.
>
>Your dream is that he picks Lieberman since you think that's a loser for
>the Republicans (so do I). Of course, you THEN think McCain is so stupid
>that HE can't see this and made a stealth pick.
>
It would be nice for the Democrats if McCain picked Lieberman. It
would be bad for him, but he's contrarian enough that he might just do
it. Ridge would be more likely.
>You are REALLY grasping for straws now, Alex. This pick has rattled you
>to your core. You see the handwriting on the wall and can't deal with
>it. I've said all along Obama was going down. I'm more convinced than
>ever now.
>
I haven't seen anything to change the underlying dynamics, which is
that this is a Democratic year. I just don't think the Dems should be
complacent.
>Of course, I still intend to vote Libertarian. I don't think either the
>Republicans or Democrats are the answer.
>
Good. A vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Obama. Anyway, you're from
Illinois, which means that you're effectively disenfranchised. Obama
has it wrapped up in his home state. (That's how I felt for years with
Virginia being a red state in Presidential politics. We finally have
"battleground" status this year.)
Alexander Arnakis
>
>In your dreams. Not one WHIFF of this in her past. This gutter-level
>inuendo is beneath you, Alex. Man, you ARE rattled.
>
specifics. As any ad man can tell you, the "atmospherics" are really
important. These are what people vote on in the privacy of the voting
booth.
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***Alex, Alex, Alex. Are all Democrats given to such silly statements?
>Giving a speech and actually governing are very far apart.
No, the "bully pulpit" is an important part of the job description.
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***He sure is. Count the number of times he told me to go f--- my self.
I'll give you more f-words at no extra charge!
Stephen Adams
>On 30 Aug 2008 20:40:59 GMT, Stephen Adams <ada...@no.spam> wrote:
>>
>>You hope this happens. Otherwise you get 4 more years of Republicans
>>in the White House.
>>
>No, I really don't think she adds anything to the McCain ticket. Even
>Ridge would have been stronger electorally, to say nothing about
>Romney.
I disagre. She's going to help in OH, PA, MI and WI. States Obama
MUST carry to win. And states where Hillary Clinton did quite well.
>>More qualified than Obama. By a long shot. Keep this up and Obama
>>is the one who will suffer!!
>>
>Nonsense. Obama just went through the crucible of a national
>nomination campaign.
That's not experience with governing. It's not executive experience.
It's speach-making. You are REALLY stretching. But I understand - there's
nothing to say about Obama's lack of experience except acknowledge it and
move on.
>She has nothing to compare. Prior to the surprise
>announcement, she was hardly a blip on even the *Republican* radar.
Which has nothing to do with experience. Obama was a light-weight
IL State Senator. And a neophyte in the US Senate. That is 0 compared
to actually running things like Palin.
>>She's no further to the right than Obama is to the left! Obama and Biden
>>are two of the most left-wing Senators! Again, keep up this line and it's
>>bad for Obama. God & Guns are *positives* in the states McCain needs to
>>win. That's the beauty of this selection.
>>
>"God and guns," yes, but *not* the idea of criminalizing abortions for
>the victims of rape or incest. Nor do most people in those states want
>the teaching of creationism in the public schools.
Which is more than ofset by having two of the most liberal Senators on
the Democratic ticket. Americans are center-right.
>She's a "Christian Dominionist," in action if not in words. That's all
>I need to know.
Get used to her. She's your next vice president.
>>Your dream is that he picks Lieberman since you think that's a loser for
>>the Republicans (so do I). Of course, you THEN think McCain is so stupid
>>that HE can't see this and made a stealth pick.
>>
>It would be nice for the Democrats if McCain picked Lieberman. It
>would be bad for him, but he's contrarian enough that he might just do
>it. Ridge would be more likely.
It's not going to happen. She's the pick. And she's the next Vice
President. The Dems must be having fits that the first woman in the
Vice Presidency is going to be a Republican
>>You are REALLY grasping for straws now, Alex. This pick has rattled you
>>to your core. You see the handwriting on the wall and can't deal with
>>it. I've said all along Obama was going down. I'm more convinced than
>>ever now.
>>
>I haven't seen anything to change the underlying dynamics, which is
>that this is a Democratic year. I just don't think the Dems should be
>complacent.
It may be in the House & Senate, but it's a Republican year for the
White House. Amazing, but true.
>>Of course, I still intend to vote Libertarian. I don't think either the
>>Republicans or Democrats are the answer.
>>
>Good. A vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Obama. Anyway, you're from
>Illinois, which means that you're effectively disenfranchised. Obama
>has it wrapped up in his home state. (That's how I felt for years with
>Virginia being a red state in Presidential politics. We finally have
>"battleground" status this year.)
No. You lie. A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr. The 'vote for Obama'
line (or similar) is a lie trying to convince people to not 'throw away
their vote' but you know what? Every vote counts.
Stephen Adams
And they are all trending Republican right now. Which is why the left
is on the verge of self-immolation at the moment. When McCain wins,
the Democratic Party is going to be lucky not to implode.
AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
> of Republican administration. In part this reflects the weaknesses that
> lie
> alongside the charismatic skills paraded by Mr Obama in Denver this week:
> his inexperience, especially in foreign affairs, at a time when the world
> looks more and more complex and troubling, and a certain cerebral
> aloofness
> that seems to make it hard for him to connect with Middle America. But a
> big
> part of the reason is that, in Mr McCain (see article), the Republicans
> have
> rallied round the only candidate who could have saved them."
>
> And when the Dems screech about Palin, they hurt Obama more. It's the
> perfect trick-box.
***Note the opinion piece i posted earlier Saturday: "McCain's Brilliant
Trap Makes Dems the Male Chauvinists."
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***Do you realize that you didn't refute what I wrote?
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***I just can't wait to see your four-letter tirade if McCain wins. You'll
be a basket case.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***YOU may vote on the smell-of-the-hour, but most voters are much more
intelligent than this.
AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
> Alexander Arnakis <inv...@address.none> writes:
>
>>On 30 Aug 2008 20:45:18 GMT, Stephen Adams <ada...@no.spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>In your dreams. Not one WHIFF of this in her past. This gutter-level
>>>inuendo is beneath you, Alex. Man, you ARE rattled.
>>>
>>I'm just pointing out the "atmospherics" of the selection. Not the
>>specifics. As any ad man can tell you, the "atmospherics" are really
>>important. These are what people vote on in the privacy of the voting
>>booth.
>
> And they are all trending Republican right now. Which is why the left
> is on the verge of self-immolation at the moment. When McCain wins,
> the Democratic Party is going to be lucky not to implode.
***Nick went beserk this evening, too. He must be shaking in his Antonio
Zengara shoes.
Alexander Arnakis
My point was that giving speeches is part and parcel of governing.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
***But not necessarily in reverse. The ability to govern is not part and
parcel of oratory skills.
++
The Black Monk wrote:
> She seems like a very decent person. Still, the presidential
> candidate is a guy who finished 794th out of a class of 800 in the
> Naval Academy (probably only made it in because his father was an
> admiral) and the person a heartbeat away from the presidency is a
> former Miss Congeniality, sports newscaster, who has a Bachelor's
> degree in communication from the University of Idaho.
>
well put
> Good luck, America, if those two get elected.
>
> BM
>
>
>
++
Joe Orthodox wrote:
> nick cobb wrote:
>> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>> think so!
>
>
> This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
> experience than Obama. She used to run her own business
What was that business?
> and has been an executive of a huge state with natural resources
> bordering two countries, one of which is Russia.
She is very interested in tapping it's wildlife reserves for black
gold. That oughta get her the women's vote....not
> Obama hasn't run anything except street agitation. No business (not
> even a private law practice), no foreign policy, no executive
> experience. The legislative accomplishments aren't there, either.
> Why is this guy the Democratic nominee?
Obama is a US senator holding his own with already a huge buncha pals in
DC and abroad. Compare his degree and training with anyone's
++
Alexander Arnakis wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT), nick cobb
> <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>> think so!
>>
>
> The gal from the Lenscrafters sales brochure! "Maverick and MILF" and
> "McSame and Mooseburger" -- the late-night comics are having a field
> day!
>
> The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
> really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
> man) and his bimbo. He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
> I'll tell you, the traditionalists in the South aren't going to like
> this -- especially older women, who feel threatened by uppity younger
> women. There's the meme of the younger home-wrecker out there.
>
She's got the makeup. But is she showing cleavage?
>
>
nedurak
Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus Nandy
Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget John
Edwards.
"++" <fri...@spambot.com> wrote in message
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veritas
wrote:
>Palin showed more class the other day than all of the following combined :
>Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus Nandy
>Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget John
>Edwards.
>
And don't forget Rush Limbaugh the drug dealer -- now there's family
values for you !
LOL
Try to be fair and balanced --- and let *us* decide !!!! :)))
Alexander Arnakis
wrote:
>Palin showed more class the other day than all of the following combined :
>Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus Nandy
>Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget John
>Edwards.
>
Go back under the rock you crawled out from under.
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***But not necessarily in reverse. The ability to govern is not part and
>parcel of oratory skills.
You're losing it. What does that have to do with *anything*?
Alexander Arnakis
>>
>She's got the makeup. But is she showing cleavage?
>>
costume from the movie "Varsity Blues." Someone remarked that even the
glasses are fake (plain glass - no optical distortion). For those who
haven't seen the movie (and I haven't), apparently the guys hire a
stripper dressed primly as a teacher/librarian. It's suppposed to be a
huge turn-on.
nedurak
Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Barbara Streisand, Alec
Baldwin, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the ACLU, the Gay and Lesbian
establishment, the pro-abortionists, etc. That's a real group to push
"family values".
"veritas" <comin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Stephen Adams
Are you REALLY stooping this low? If Al said something like this about
a Democratic candidate, you would be castigating him like nobody's
business.
Who kidnapped Alex and replaced him with Nick????? Please return him
soon.
Joe Orthodox
> She's got the makeup. But is she showing cleavage?
>>
Someone's getting jealous.
Joe Orthodox
> Now there's real logic. Someone who aligns himself with Ted Kennedy, John
> Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Barbara Streisand, Alec
> Baldwin, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the ACLU, the Gay and Lesbian
> establishment, the pro-abortionists, etc. That's a real group to push
> "family values".
>
This feller you're responding to is a dumbass kid. Let him go back to
his video games and gummy worms.
veritas
<spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>nedurak wrote:
>> Now there's real logic. Someone who aligns himself with Ted Kennedy, John
>> Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Barbara Streisand, Alec
>> Baldwin, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the ACLU, the Gay and Lesbian
>> establishment, the pro-abortionists, etc. That's a real group to push
>> "family values".
>>
>
>This feller you're responding to is a dumbass kid. Let him go back to
>his video games and gummy worms.
Joe un-Orthodox ,
Since you've been acting smart with me and I haven't reciprocated I'll
bite this time , you troll :
I've paid more tax in the time I spent in America than you -- I'm
positive since my profession is the highest paying along with lawyers
over there.
Californians pay more tax revenue to the Federal Government than the
much poorer state of Kansas ( where you live ) .So , effectively I was
subsiding hateful "red state" assholes like you .
Don't you think Kansas should only get money it has paid ?
That makes you an inbred , inferior white parasite doesn't it ? You
are living off my hard work and entrepreneurial abilities.
Just in case you don't know , I'll remind you . My vote is more
important than your vote because MONEY TALKS and BULLSHIT WALKS.
I've given money to both political candidates e.g. Swartznegger et al.
Now if there is a war and you get nuked I don't care as long as
California and my house there is not affected .
Got that asshole ?
By the way , my wife in an American from Texas . She used to think
like your *dumbass* you dumbass. Now , from the perspective she has
here due to a FREE PRFESS she has switched sides.
I feel sorry for your wife because she's a Russian and you have shown
bigoted/prejudiced attitudes to Slavs.I know she married you because
she thought she could have a better life in America . Hopefully when
your kids are old enough she will come to her senses and divorce you
because I know you are verbally abusive with her . People like you are
prone to domestic violence .
That's all , for now .
Asshole.
Peter
John Galt
> On 30 Aug 2008 02:33:07 GMT, Stephen Adams <ada...@no.spam> wrote:
>
>> nick cobb <nick...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> A move of desperation. He WILL still lose!
>> Keep telling yourself that Nick. The pick was *brilliant*
>>
> No, it wasn't. Paul Begala says it was an insane choice.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/begala.palin/index.html
Begala obviously had that exact article, with the same title, written
for two weeks. He was just waiting to find out which person would be the
center of attack.
JG
>
John Galt
> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
I don't think they are either. However, long term, more women in the
work force in leadership roles leads to more women who vote economics
rather than hearth-and-home. McCain is hoping to ride this to win, but
the long-term implications of pulling a young woman onto the ticket
(making her a candidate in 2012 even if they lose) is very important.
> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
> think so!
The same argument can be made about Obama. (Although there is no
evidence that either candidate is "bumbling.")
JG
John Galt
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:18:30 -0400, "AGGreen"
> <AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>> ***Joe, what does this say about today's crop of Democrats. Today's party is
>> soooo much different from the party of FDR and JFK.
>
> The *Republican* party was so devoid of talent that they had to pick
> an unknown bimbo from Alaska to be Vice President?!
And the flow of sexism from the party of the "feminists" continues. Are
the Democrats so shallow that they had to pick an inexperienced senator
in his first term to run for President?
The GOP bench is deep but young. I would have preferred Jindal, who is
without question a future party nominee, but he's 36. This is a tactical
strech but a much better strategic move in restoring the GOP brand.
JG
John Galt
> You have to be kidding! This woman to be President if McCain drops
> bumbling administrator from the hot spot of solving US and
> International issues - backward Alaska!
Better her than Obama. Again, note the hypocrisy -- it's OK to make the
inexperienced PRESIDENT, but not ok to make the inexperienced VICE
PRESIDENT.
You're the one that has to be kidding.
JG
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 12:08 pm, Joe Orthodox <spambuc...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>> nick cobb wrote:
>>> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>>> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>>> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>>> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>>> think so!
>> This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
>> experience than Obama. She used to run her own business and has been an
>> executive of a huge state with natural resources bordering two
>> countries, one of which is Russia. Obama hasn't run anything except
John Galt
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:08:55 -0500, Joe Orthodox
> <spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>> This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
>> experience than Obama. She used to run her own business and has been an
>> executive of a huge state with natural resources bordering two
>> countries, one of which is Russia. Obama hasn't run anything except
>> street agitation. No business (not even a private law practice), no
>> foreign policy, no executive experience. The legislative
>> accomplishments aren't there, either. Why is this guy the Democratic
>> nominee?
>
> campaign.
Well, that certainly qualifies him to stare down Putin. :-) He can
campaign Russia to death.
I suppose this is all good for the Voice of America. Obama will choose
to confront Russia with oratory and some occasional harsh language. The
VOA will get an increase in budget.
> Palin was at 2% among Republicans, as a VP choice, before
> the announcement was made. She has no national *political* experience.
> That's going to really hurt her. I wouldn't be surprised if she
> implodes politically soon after the convention. It's like Bush's
> Harriet Miers choice for the Supreme Court.
I wouldn't be surprised if you have to eat your words.
JG
>
John Galt
>
>
> Joe Orthodox wrote:
>> nick cobb wrote:
>>> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>>> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>>> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>>> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>>> think so!
>>
>>
>> This line of reasoning will backfire. Palin has more relevant
>> experience than Obama. She used to run her own business
>
> What was that business?
>> and has been an executive of a huge state with natural resources
>> bordering two countries, one of which is Russia.
>
> She is very interested in tapping it's wildlife reserves for black
> gold. That oughta get her the women's vote....not
It won't get her the Demosocialist women's votes, you're right. Women
who think economics and business, that's another story.
>> Obama hasn't run anything except street agitation. No business (not
>> even a private law practice), no foreign policy, no executive
>> experience. The legislative accomplishments ar
n't there, either.
>> Why is this guy the Democratic nominee?
> Obama is a US senator holding his own with already a huge buncha pals in
> DC and abroad. Compare his degree and training with anyone's
So, we're down to basing our electoral selections on what college was
attended, and who your cronies are?
ROTFL.
JG
>
John Galt
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:16:53 -0400, "AGGreen"
> <AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>> ***So, elect Obama and have a bumbling, inexperienced person as
>> president!!!!! LOL and ROTF!!!!
>
> I didn't see any "bumbling" evident in Thursday night's acceptance
> speech!
No, that was self-love and a huge ego.
But, more broadly, you didnt' see bumbling in Palin's Friday speech,
either. Perhaps "bumbling" is an adjective that should be off the table.
JG
>
John Galt
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:17:11 -0400, "AGGreen"
> <AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>> ***Alex, Alex, Alex. Are all Democrats given to such silly statements?
>> Giving a speech and actually governing are very far apart.
>
> No, the "bully pulpit" is an important part of the job description.
The "bully pulpit" is a much broader concept that giving a speech. And
Bush used it as well as anybody, despite the fact he's a crappy public
speaker.
Content always needs to be separated from delivery. When you read
Obama's speeches rather than listen to them, you realize there's just
not much there to get interested about.
JG
>
John Galt
Al's point is simply that the ability to deliver a rousing speech does
not imply the ability to govern, or to govern well.
Hitler was a gifted speaker, for one datapoint.
JG
>
John Galt
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT), nick cobb
>
>> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>> think so!
>
> "McSame and Mooseburger" -- the late-night comics are having a field
> day!
>
> The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
> really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
> man) and his bimbo. He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
> I'll tell you, the traditionalists in the South aren't going to like
> this -- especially older women, who feel threatened by uppity younger
> women. There's the meme of the younger home-wrecker out there.
Then that will be reflected in the polls. Until then, it's a hypothetical.
However, the attention this has placed on the McCain campaign is all good.
JG
>
John Galt
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:12:25 -0400, "nedurak" <nsko...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Palin showed more class the other day than all of the following combined :
>> Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus Nandy
>> Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget John
>> Edwards.
>>
>
> And don't forget Rush Limbaugh the drug dealer -- now there's family
> values for you !
Yes, we need to attack everyone who has a substance abuse problem.
That's family values for you.
LOL
JG
Stephen Adams
When Jindal bowed out, it looked like McCain had little or no chance. A
tactical move on Jindal's part, as he didn't want to be tarred with what
looked like a losing effort.
Joe Orthodox
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:29:27 -0500, Joe Orthodox
> <spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>
>> nedurak wrote:
>>> Now there's real logic. Someone who aligns himself with Ted Kennedy, John
>>> Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Barbara Streisand, Alec
>>> Baldwin, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the ACLU, the Gay and Lesbian
>>> establishment, the pro-abortionists, etc. That's a real group to push
>>> "family values".
>>>
>> This feller you're responding to is a dumbass kid. Let him go back to
>> his video games and gummy worms.
>
> Joe un-Orthodox ,
>
> Since you've been acting smart with me and I haven't reciprocated I'll
> bite this time , you troll :
>
>
I seriously doubt that.
> Californians pay more tax revenue to the Federal Government than the
> much poorer state of Kansas ( where you live ) .So , effectively I was
> subsiding hateful "red state" assholes like you .
>
I seriously doubt that as well. Those red states you hate have a
disproportionately higher number of soldiers serving in the military
protecting dumbass, America-hating pussies like you. Without their
spilled blood, your Outback ass would be speaking Japanese today.
> Don't you think Kansas should only get money it has paid ?
>
If that's how you feel, don't support far left liberals. They are the
ones pushing for a tax scheme which makes the middle class poorer in
high salary, high cost of living places like NY and CA.
> That makes you an inbred , inferior white parasite doesn't it ? You
> are living off my hard work and entrepreneurial abilities.
>
Here's where your racist dumassery comes to full exposure. I have a
black grandparent and a great grandparent was American Indian, my
father's side is German, and my wife's father is Jewish. I think I have
a better appreciation and sensitivity for multiculturalism than you do,
you dumbass cracker from the Outback.
> By the way , my wife in an American from Texas . She used to think
> like your *dumbass* you dumbass. Now , from the perspective she has
> here due to a FREE PRFESS she has switched sides.
>
Spell check is free, too, you Outback hick. Check into it.
> I feel sorry for your wife because she's a Russian and you have shown
> bigoted/prejudiced attitudes to Slavs.I know she married you because
Rather, she knows how bigoted the folks were in the old country. I've
lived in Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, and the FSU. I can safely
tell you that Russia is the most racist and anti-semitic land I ever
visited. It's like walking into a time warp. The "n" word is thrown
around frequently. I remember new acquaintances would ask, "Are there a
bunch of n*ggers in your home city?" Or, "Hey, you know he's a Jew,
right?" Or, they affectionately refer to anyone from the south as a
"chorniya zhopa".
> she thought she could have a better life in America . Hopefully when
> your kids are old enough she will come to her senses and divorce you
> because I know you are verbally abusive with her . People like you are
> prone to domestic violence .
>
You're entitled to your fantasies, son. My wife and I (married for 14
years and dated three years prior to that) each make six figure salaries
(which makes life great in the Midwest, though I'm sure NYC it'll get
you a roach infested apartment). My wife has spent half of her life in
the US and can form her own opinions regardless of where she lives, in
contrast apparently to your wife.
> That's all , for now .
>
I doubt it, you anti-semitic, dumbass snot from the Outback.
Alexander Arnakis
wrote:
>But, more broadly, you didnt' see bumbling in Palin's Friday speech,
>either. Perhaps "bumbling" is an adjective that should be off the table.
>
People are going to get tired of her piercing, shrill voice. She's
going to have to be coached to tone it down.
Joe Orthodox
Ah, that was it. Something was nagging at the back of my brain as to
what I found troubling about that fawning crowd in Berlin.
Stephen Adams
She's done fine so far. Your anti-Palin attitude is influencing everything
you see and hear.
AGGreen
"John Galt" <kad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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***I sense a sequel to Desperate Housewives...Desperate Democrats!!
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
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***You brought up the subject. You tell me.
AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
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> Alexander Arnakis <inv...@address.none> writes:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:21:28 -0500, John Galt <kad...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>But, more broadly, you didnt' see bumbling in Palin's Friday speech,
>>>either. Perhaps "bumbling" is an adjective that should be off the table.
>>>
>>People are going to get tired of her piercing, shrill voice. She's
>>going to have to be coached to tone it down.
>
> She's done fine so far. Your anti-Palin attitude is influencing
> everything
> you see and hear.
***Episode One of Desperate Democrats, starring Alexander Arnakis!
AGGreen
> wrote:
>
>>Palin showed more class the other day than all of the following combined :
>>Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus
>>Nandy
>>Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget John
>>Edwards.
>>
>
> And don't forget Rush Limbaugh the drug dealer -- now there's family
> values for you !
***Jerk. He used, but never dealt. For God's sake I used pain killers for my
back pain, too. So freakin' what?
AGGreen
"nedurak" <nsko...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Palin showed more class the other day than all of the following combined :
> Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus
> Nandy Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget
> John Edwards.
>
>
>
> "++" <fri...@spambot.com> wrote in message
> news:oa2dnSw84sctlyfV...@rcn.net...
>>
>>
>> Alexander Arnakis wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT), nick cobb
>>> <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> McCain picks this inexperienced woman hoping all the woman will vote
>>>> for him. I don't think the majority of women voters are that stupid.
>>>> Furthermore, if McCain died in office, would YOU really want some
>>>> bumbling, inexperienced person as President in THESE times? I don't
>>>> think so!
>>>>
>>>
>>> The gal from the Lenscrafters sales brochure! "Maverick and MILF" and
>>> "McSame and Mooseburger" -- the late-night comics are having a field
>>> day!
>>>
>>> The campaign poster on McCain's website http://www.johnmccain.com/ is
>>> really weird. It makes them look like a sugar daddy (or a dirty old
>>> man) and his bimbo. He's old enough to be her father, and then some.
>>> I'll tell you, the traditionalists in the South aren't going to like
>>> this -- especially older women, who feel threatened by uppity younger
>>> women. There's the meme of the younger home-wrecker out there.
>>>
AGGreen
"Joe Orthodox" <spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote in message
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>>
>
> I doubt it, you anti-semitic, dumbass snot from the Outback.
***You mean he's a kangaroo humper???
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
>>Clinton (both of them) plus the Muslim Obama plus big mouth Biden plus
>>Nandy
>>Pelosi plus over-the-bridge driver Ted Kennedy. And don't forget John
>>Edwards.
>>
***Yeah. Those Dems don't want people to know the truth.
AGGreen
"Stephen Adams" <ada...@no.spam> wrote in message
> Alexander Arnakis <inv...@address.none> writes:
>
>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:06:30 -0400, ++ <fri...@spambot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>She's got the makeup. But is she showing cleavage?
>>>>
>>costume from the movie "Varsity Blues." Someone remarked that even the
>>glasses are fake (plain glass - no optical distortion). For those who
>>haven't seen the movie (and I haven't), apparently the guys hire a
>>stripper dressed primly as a teacher/librarian. It's suppposed to be a
>>huge turn-on.
>
> Are you REALLY stooping this low? If Al said something like this about
> a Democratic candidate, you would be castigating him like nobody's
> business.
>
> Who kidnapped Alex and replaced him with Nick????? Please return him
> soon.
***Alex and nick...Siamese twins.
AGGreen
"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:06:30 -0400, ++ <fri...@spambot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>She's got the makeup. But is she showing cleavage?
>>>
> No, and deliberately so. She's wearing the fake teacher/librarian
> costume from the movie "Varsity Blues." Someone remarked that even the
> glasses are fake (plain glass - no optical distortion). For those who
> haven't seen the movie (and I haven't), apparently the guys hire a
> stripper dressed primly as a teacher/librarian. It's suppposed to be a
> huge turn-on.
***LOL! So, what have you got going for you, Alex? Got too many calouses on
your hands?
AGGreen
> ++ wrote:
>> She's got the makeup. But is she showing cleavage?
>>>
>
***Gail's not saying much about her own cleavage!!
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***Alex and Nick...Siamese twins.
Not hardly.
++
She sounds like Hillary Clinton with a high pitch whine overtone
>
>
Alexander Arnakis
<spamb...@spaminator.net> wrote:
>John Galt wrote:
>>
>> Al's point is simply that the ability to deliver a rousing speech does
>> not imply the ability to govern, or to govern well.
>>
>> Hitler was a gifted speaker, for one datapoint.
>>
>Ah, that was it. Something was nagging at the back of my brain as to
>what I found troubling about that fawning crowd in Berlin.
Stephen Adams invoked Godwin's Law on me (wrongly, because I was
making a mere observation, not an argument), and now I'll have to
invoke Godwin's Law on you guys. Mention Hitler or Nazis, and you
automatically lose.
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***I sense a sequel to Desperate Housewives...Desperate Democrats!!
I'm going to wait until the dust settles, a week after the Republican
convention, before I allow myself to get desperate!
Alexander Arnakis
<AGGreen@not_the_imposter.tv> wrote:
>
>***Episode One of Desperate Democrats, starring Alexander Arnakis!
Episode Two: The Dems Strike Back!