Victims of Abuse in the Orthodox Church
Petros
Pokrov.org has been made aware of another sex offender who is
functioning as an Orthodox priest. Fr. John Liadis of Florida is
listed in the Florida sex offender registry and is now also listed on
pokrov.org as of today:
http://www.pokrov.org/pliadis.htm
For more information about sex and cult abuse in the Orthodox Church,
visit this site: Protection of the Theotokos
Z and ALTR
>Date: 08/30/2001 6:43 PM Eastern
Fr. John Liadis is not listed in the 2001 GOA yearbook as a priest nor was he
in the 1998 book (both of which I have), nor is there is a chapel or church
listed for Brooksville, FL, in either of those books. Could you please tell me
which jurisdiction St. Nicholas chapel belongs to and where and by whom Fr.
Liadas was ordained.
++
He is apparently in the HOCNA. :
From: "Fr. Panagiotes Carras" <pcarras@o...>
Date: Sat Jan 6, 2001 8:59 pm
Subject: Christ is Born!
From: Father Seraphim <webmaster@t...>
Date: Sat Jan 6, 2001 6:36 pm
Subject: Christ is Born!
To: "Aristides P. Assimacopoulos" <aristidesp@m...>,
Boyan Atanassov <boyan@s...>, "Fr. Michael Azkoul"
<frazkoul@s...>, Paul Azkoul <Chefpaul@i...>, Otari
Babunashvili <wotar@l...>, Patrick Battstone <pbattstone@d...>, George
Bazios <Georgeb@i...>, David Beierl <dbeierl@i...>, Nina
Bejanchvili <nbejanic@f...>, "Fr. David Belden" <dc759@f...>,
Zacchaeus Bishop <zak@m...>, "Fr. James Bockman"
<bockman@v...>, Photini Bourdos <photini.bourdos@r...>, "Fr. John
Bruk" <frjohnbruk@h...>, Seraphim Burge <xenia@i...>,
Alexander Buterbaugh <abuterbaugh@b...>, "Fr. Panagiotes Carras"
<pcarras@o...>, Michael Christus <christus4@a...>, "St.
Seraphim Community" <seraphim@c...>, Constantine Norton
<cnorton@c...>, Bshara Demien <G.Demien@i...>, Nicholas
Demien <demien@c...>, Thomas Deretich <deretich@e...>, "St.
Gregory of Sinai Monastery" <sinai@s...>, "John B.
Dunlop" <dunlop@h...>, "Fr. Eugene Durkee" <edurkee@t...>, Romanos
Emmert <Romanos777@a...>, Paisios Evans
<cherokeepurple@h...>, "Fr. Elias Fagan" <fr.elias@m...>, The Maillis
Family
<nbamaillis@g...>, "Lisa N. Felton" <lisafelton@j...>,
"Fr. John Fleser" <father.fleser@v...>, Victoria Fleser <vikkif@h...>,
Christos Fogal <ChristosFogal@j...>, Chris Giantsopoulos
<giant1@i...>, George Giantsopoulos <ggiants@h...>, Philip Graham
<philipg@i...>, Josh Hatala <josh_providence@y...>, "Fr.
Damian" <dhohol@h...>, "Fr. Demetrius Houlares" <frdemetrios@s...>,
Ilya Fokin <ilyafokin@m...>, "Fr. Seraphim Johnson"
<johnson11812@e...>, "Fr. Paul Kalamaras" <orth@e...>, John Kalomiros
<jkalom@h...>, David Kaupp <results@k...>, Matushka Nina
Kochergin <nkochergin@w...>, Luka Levidze <luka@p...>, "Fr.
George Liadis" <frgeorgeliadis@s...>, "Fr. Michael
Lightfoot" <clightfo@c...>, Edward Marsh <ed.marsh@w...>, Greg Macris
<GMacris@n...>, "Fr. Michael Marcinowski" <miler@t...>,
Sister Mary Miller <SRMRYMILLR@a...>, "Fr. Victor Melehov"
<RussExarch@a...>, Denis Michalak <gilet_vert@y...>,
Olga Mitrenina <alektor@i...>, Nectarios Mitsilios <scarface@i...>, "Fr.
Nikifor" <fr.nikifor@j...>, Convent of the Meeting in
the Temple <symeon@m...>, "Fr. Neketas Palassis" <frneketas11@h...>,
Constantine Pappas <pappas@e...>, Theodore Pappas
<tpappas@g...>, George Patitsas <gwp2@j...>, "Fr. Sergius Pellegrini"
<skpell@i...>, Rusudan Pirtskhalava <uta3@h...>, George
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Pravica <pravica@y...>, Peter Presson <PPresson@p...>,
Constantine Rasmussen <cd_rasmussen@y...>, Teimuraz
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Archimandrite John Sheklashvili <mioane@h...>, Sergei Shevchenkov
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Vladislav Streltsov <vs@l...>, Joseph Swaydyn
<JoeSwaydyn2000@h...>, James Teterenko <james@i...>,
Victor Timoshenko <mvkt@e...>, "Fr. Photios Touloumes"
<dcnfoti@e...>, Yakov Tseitlin <doma@s...>, Vadim
<vnemira@m...>, Timothy Vargas <tdvargas1@h...>, Michael Vezie
<mlv@p...>, Anthony Vlatas <ajvlatas@e...>, Jacob Wojcik
<WOJO40@a...>, Ed van Wyk <voorlope@m...>, Michael Zervos
<mzervos@m...>, Sergei Zhukov <sergei-zhukov@m...>\
but let's check to be sure:
Hmm, he was in Massachusetts:
McLellan will be the matron of honor.
For both couples and their sponsors, MANY YEARS!!!!!
Births
Helen Galarneau gave birth to a baby girl on January 1/
December 19. Neil and Helen now have two girls in the family.
Many Years to the mother, father.
Unction Service
On Wednesday evening, December 30/17, at 7:00 pm
the Holy Unction service began. Serving with Bishop
Moses were Fathers John Fleser, Christos Constantinou,
George Liadis, John Bruk and the deacons Demetrios
Houlares and Elias Fagan. Present for the service
were over 80 of the faithful from both St. Anna▓s
and St. Mark▓s parishes. All were anointed at the end
of Unction.
Matushka Ann Lardas
No. You're blaming the wrong man.
HOCNA has its problems, but this one is or was with the Greek Archdiocese. The
person you named, George Liadis in Roslindale, is a good man and was my
husband's landlord before we married -- his parents attended the ROCOR parish
in Detroit many years back. I wish he weren't with HOCNA, but, he comes from a
pious family and the sex offender in question is NOT he. Besides, the man you
mentioned was George Liadis. The man on the web page is JOHN Liadis.
The pokrov web page says:
>Profile: According to the on-line directory for the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese
of Atlanta (as of August 26, 2001), John Liadis is currently serving as a
priest at St. Nicholas Chapel in Brooksville, FL. According to court documents
from 1989, John Liadis:
did knowingly commit a lewd and lascivious act on or in the presence of a child
under the age of sixteen years, to-wit: [victim's name omitted] born January
29th, 1974, by touching or fondling the child on or near her breast or on or
near her vaginal area in a lewd, indecent, or lascivious manner, but without
committing sexual battery, in violation of Florida statute 800.04.
Among conditions of Mr. Liadis' probation he was forbidden to have contact with
any children under 18 years of age. <
Matushka Ann Lardas
(mat...@aol.com)
++
Thanks for correcting that, Matushka. We certainly wouldn't want a perfectly nice
priest slandered by this .
Probably this real abuser isn't even Orthodox. I will immediately pull my post
Galina
Ferguson
This underscores why it is so important to ensure information like
this are 100% correct. This could do irrepairable damage to this man.
Nektarios
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++ archivolt@ wrote
Ferguson
your plan to correct this?
Nektarios
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petr...@lycos.com (Petros) wrote in message news:<5389b122.01083...@posting.google.com>...
++
Ferguson wrote:
> Since from other posts it apears you have named the wrong man what is
> your plan to correct this?
>
> Nektarios
Dear Nektarios,
I removed my own posting on the matter, i.e. permanently expunged it. I don't know who the other Liadis
is who was stated by this website holder to be an abuser. The original question was within what
jurisdiction is the offender and the name appeared in a different jurisdiciton but is not the same fellow
as the offender.
Galina
++
Ferguson wrote:
> Can you pull all copies of your post?
I already did
>
> This underscores why it is so important to ensure information like
> this are 100% correct. This could do irrepairable damage to this man.
Matushka Anna has vouched this cannot be the same person. First, the person I found
has a different first name. Second, the abuser is in Florida and the non abuser of
same last name is in another state entirely.
++
message cancelled
Z and ALTR
>From: ++ arch...@erols.com
>Date: 09/01/2001 1:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B911F06...@erols.com>
>
>Zoe,
>
>message cancelled
>
>
Good! Because I was getting ready to point out the difference in the first
names but then I read Matushka Anna's message and saw it had already been
brought to your attention. OTOH, John Liadis is not, and I repeat, is not,
listed as a priest of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese in either the current or
earlier yearbook that I have - and I repeat, there is no chapel of the GOA in
Brooksville - according to the same yearbooks!! If he's not HOCNA, he may be
Old Calendar - and I would not have those yearbooks.
Z and ALTR
>Zoe,
>
>He is apparently in the HOCNA. :
>
>
Galina, this message is still appearing on the newsgroup.
++
\\Repeat repeat George Liadis is known to be a NICE person.
Ferguson
Nektarios
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(Petros) wrote in message news:<5389b122.01083...@posting.google.com>...
++
The priest named George is nice, not the same as person on website
That priest named John who is on website no one can say. No one can find a trace of
him being one of us
Melanie Jula Sakoda
Father John M. Liadis is a retired GOA priest still serving at the
GOA's St. Nicholas Chapel in Brooksville Florida.
If you click here: http://www.goarch.org/goa/Archdioceseyearbook2001.pdf
Page 214 shows Fr. John Liadis as retired and lists his address.
Page 192 lists the Brooksville chapel, St. Nicholas, and its address.
The 2000 GOA Yearbook incorrectly shows the chapel as located in
"Brooksfield," (page 140) but shows the correct chapel name and
address, and indicates that the chapel is "serviced by Rev. Fr. John
Liadis." In that same yearbook you will find Fr. John Liadis listed
among the retired priests.
Melanie Jula Sakoda
Ferguson
-- If this JOHN Liadis, retired GOA priest who is serving as a priest
at St Nicholas Chapel in Brooksville, FL, was allowed to retire after
his crime or before?
-- Did the GOA attempt to do anything or simply continue to allow him
to be a priest?
-- Now that this is out does he continue at St Nicholas Chapel in FL?
Nektarios
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petr...@lycos.com (Petros) wrote in message news:<5389b122.01083...@posting.google.com>...
Ferguson
In his file there is a letter to the judge asking the court to clarify
how he was to continue his ministry when his probation specified that
he was to have no contact with children under the age of 18. (The
court then modified its order to say that he could not have any
contact with children under the age of 18 unless there was adult
supervision.)
This is pretty bizzare stuff.
He is now 68 years old anyone know when he retired? did he just retire
as a matter of course and no one was concerned about his behavior?
The online parish directory of the Atlanta Diocese which was compiled
in 1998, and edited in 1999, Fr. John is listed as the priest at the
Olympic Village chapel, St. Nicholas, and there is no indication that
he is retired.
http://www.atlanta.goarch.org/parishdir.htm
The 2000 GOA yearbook Fr. John is listed as retired, although still
servicing the chapel.
the GOA reaction was interesting as well after this persons conviction
he was removed as onsite director of the GOA summer camp at Olympic
Village during the period of his probation. However, this was
apparently by order of the court, and not at the behest of the GOA.
Otherwise, "Fr." John apparently continued to reside at the Village
and
function as the chapel's priest, as appears in the 2000 GOA yearbook.
The
online version of the 2001 yearbook and the Florida sex offenders'
registry
verifies that Fr. John still resides at the Youth Center.
http://www.goarch.org/goa/Archdioceseyearbook2001.pdf
Other URLs of interest on the subject:
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/cabuse2.htm
"REV. JOHN MICHAEL LIADIS, 56, of Largo, FL, was sentenced to 10
years'
probation after a no-contest plea to 1 count of committing a lewd and
lascivious act on a child under 16. He was also fined $500, told to
stay away
from children, and ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. He
grabbed a
girl, 15, the daughter of friends, at a church retreat. Liadis was
relieved
of his duties at the church camp. (NT Times, FL, 11/4/89)"
Why is the GOA apparently so unconcerned about this?
Nektarios
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(Ferguson) wrote in message
++
Sounds pertty awful. But does the GOA know about this conviction?
Alexander Arnakis
>Nektarios,
>
>Sounds pretty awful. But does the GOA know about this conviction?
>
Could there be a mental-health aspect to this? In other words, could
the priest momentarily have been out of his right mind when he did
this?
The GOA should have weighed the priest's entire record against this
one incident. If he had had a long and blameless career, then the
proper response was to let him retire quietly.
Subsequently, if the retired priest found himself living near a
priest-less chapel in Florida, what's so wrong with him helping out
liturgically, provided he doesn't violate the terms of his parole?
The concepts of contrition, atonement, and redemption are not alien to
Christianity. As Christ Himself said, "Let him who is without sin cast
the first stone."
Melanie Jula Sakoda
> Nektarios,
>
> Sounds pertty awful. But does the GOA know about this conviction?
If the GOA DOES NOT know about this conviction, it would be nothing
short of miraculous.
There was press coverage.
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/cabuse2.htm
"REV. JOHN MICHAEL LIADIS, 56, of Largo, FL, was sentenced to 10
years' probation after a no-contest plea to 1 count of committing a
lewd and lascivious act on a child under 16. He was also fined $500,
told to stay away from children, and ordered to undergo a psychiatric
evaluation. He grabbed a girl, 15, the daughter of friends, at a
church retreat. Liadis was relieved of his duties at the church camp.
(NT Times, FL, 11/4/89)"
Moreover, during the 10 year period of his probation Fr. John was
forbidden to be at the Olympic Village Greek Orthodox Youth Center
when children were regularly present. Since he apparently lived and
worked at the center, it is hard to believe that his superiors could
have been kept in the dark concerning the reason behind his mandatory
absences.
Melanie Jula Sakoda
Melanie Jula Sakoda
> Could there be a mental-health aspect to this? In other words, could
> the priest momentarily have been out of his right mind when he did
> this?
>
> The GOA should have weighed the priest's entire record against this
> one incident. If he had had a long and blameless career, then the
> proper response was to let him retire quietly.
First of all, shortly before Fr. John's no contest plea to the 1989
charges, the state attorneys' office in Hernando County served the
priest with notices of intent to offer evidence of additional crimes.
Their office had found three additional victims, from 1979, 1983 and
1984. That's 4 incidents spanning a 10 year period of time.
Secondly, until the exact date of Fr. John's retirement is known,
it's unclear whether he was retired because of his conviction, or
whether he was retired because of his age.
And finally, there is no indication that this "retirement" changed Fr.
John's status at all. He continued to live and work at the Olympic
Village Greek Orthodox Youth Center, which is where St. Nicholas
Chapel is located, as he had prior to his conviction.
> Subsequently, if the retired priest found himself living near a
> priest-less chapel in Florida, what's so wrong with him helping out
> liturgically, provided he doesn't violate the terms of his parole?
As indicated above, this scenario does not appear to match what is
known about the situation.
Of course, the other problem with allowing a convicted pedophile to
help out liturgically is the possibility that he might harm additional
children. If the thought of more injured children is not appalling
enough, consider that under the circumstances GOA would be hard put to
avoid liability. Currently most insurance coverage for clergy sexual
misconduct is limited to about $100,000 per incident per year. Awards
for clergy sexual misconduct average $200,000 to $250,000 per victim.
> The concepts of contrition, atonement, and redemption are not alien to
> Christianity. As Christ Himself said, "Let him who is without sin cast
> the first stone."
He also said, "...whoever causes one of these little ones who believe
in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone
fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."
4 Orthodox children came to summer camp to learn about God, and were
taught something else entirely by a priest. When considering whether
GOA handled the situation well, that is something that should never be
forgotten.
Melanie Jula Sakoda
++
Thank you for updating us. If a preist had had temporary insanity, he still would have committed this horrendous crime and
been unfit for office.
++
Liadis
John
Rev.Fr.
St. Nicholas
Chapel
Brooksville
FL
904-799-1124
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Gavrilos. stm...@flinet.com. None. St. Nicholas Chapel. Brooksville.
Rev. Fr. Liadis. teu...@atlantic.net. Holy Trinity. Clearwater.
Rev. Fr. Rousakis. St. Demetrios. Daytona Beach. SaintDe...@worldnet.att.net.
Ft. Lauderdale.
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June R Harton
It is time Gail Schneider that you cease posting....you are too
apt to post incorrect information whenever you post. The evidences
of this are numerous, this being only one of the cases.
from: Spirit Of Truth
(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
June R Harton
> Melanie,
> Thank you for updating us. If a preist had had temporary insanity,
> he still would have committed this horrendous crime and
> been unfit for office.
You consider yourself fit to continue posting here, Gail?
Ferguson
guess is that the GOA simply hopes that no one finds out - to late.
If a priest goes to jail for a crime he is not supposed to come out
and serve. Odd sort of thinking here - if a man has been married in
another church or in no church and is divorced one or more times he
may not be a priest however one can continue to be a priest after
being exposed as a pervert. One does that say about the values of
those making the decision?
Nektarios
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++ <arch...@erols.com> wrote in message news:<3B947C59...@erols.com>...
> --
Ferguson
first post I have seen you make in this thread how concerned you are
about the real guy, his crime and the apparent lack of concern by the
GOA?
Nektarios
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"June R Harton" wrote
>"++" <arch...@erols.com> wrote in message
>>Ferguson wrote:
>>> Can you pull all copies of your post?
>>I already did
>>> This underscores why it is so important to ensure information like
>>> this are 100% correct. This could do irrepairable damage to this
man.
>>Matushka Anna has vouched this cannot be the same person. First,
the
>person I found
>>has a different first name. Second, the abuser is in Florida and
the non
>abuser of
>>same last name is in another state entirely.
>>>Nektarios
>>>
>>>-------------------
June R Harton
"Ferguson" <JFer...@e-mailanywhere.com> wrote in message
news:81a8e65a.01090...@posting.google.com...
> She did get the fist name incorrect but just curious since this is the
> first post I have seen you make in this thread how concerned you are
> about the real guy, his crime and the apparent lack of concern by the
> GOA?
> Nektarios
Wake up.
from: Spirit Of Truth
(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
----- Original Message -----
From: "June R Harton" <JUNEH...@prodigy.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: Wrong person. was Re: Victims of Abuse in the Orthodox Church
> "++" <arch...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:3B911E12...@erols.com...
> >
> >
> > Ferguson wrote:
> >
> > > Can you pull all copies of your post?
> >
> > I already did
> >
> > >
> > > This underscores why it is so important to ensure information like
> > > this are 100% correct. This could do irrepairable damage to this man.
> >
> > Matushka Anna has vouched this cannot be the same person. First, the
> person I found
> > has a different first name. Second, the abuser is in Florida and the
non
> abuser of
> > same last name is in another state entirely.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nektarios
> > >
> > > -----------------------
darkmar...@gmail.com
I am horrified as to how many children he must have abused. It affects me to this day.
darkmar...@gmail.com
> NOTICE:
> Pokrov.org has been made aware of another sex offender who is
> functioning as an Orthodox priest. Fr. John Liadis of Florida is
> listed in the Florida sex offender registry and is now also listed on
> pokrov.org as of today:
>
> http://www.pokrov.org/pliadis.htm
>
> For more information about sex and cult abuse in the Orthodox Church,
> visit this site: Protection of the Theotokos
>
> http://www.pokrov.org
darkmar...@gmail.com
I am
wrote:
Father John LIADIS
LIADIS, Father John 79, Brooksville, died Nov. 6, 2012. Visitation on
Thursday, Nov. 8th, 6-8 pm, with service on Nov. 9th, 1 pm, at Holy
Trinity Orthodox Church. In lieu of flowers, family requests donations
be made in Father John Liadis' name to Suncoast Hospice, Brookside
Hospice House, 164 West Lake Road, Palm Harbor, FL 34684. Pinecrest /
352-796-1656
Published in the Tampa Bay Times on Nov. 8, 2012
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/tampabaytimes/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=160928996
Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that
believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about
his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
This is quoted of the Lord within three gospels. Not to be taken
lightly. Especially since the man did it under the color of authority.
I hope that can find it in your heart to forgive and let if go into
the hands of God. That you will receive healing from within, and find
the peace that passes all human understanding, in the Lord.
God IS a just God. On that you can count. Don't let the evil sin of
this man ruin your life.
I pray for the healing in your life.