REFUTING A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

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> Since Jehovah's Witnesses cannot abide according to the New
> Testament then they cannot
> be considered Christian.

On the contrary, they go by the NT to the letter, and are many times
criticized for doing so. For example Jesus said at Mt 5:44,

"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you," (NASB)

Thus when a politician says to kill your enemies, JW's won't comply.
They must obey God as their ruler, rather than men. (Acts 5:29) Most
professed Christian religions support and/or engage in wars, thus
violating Jesus' direct command at Mt 5:44. JW's are put in prison or
even killed for not participating in their country's wars. That is
what happened to them in Germany during WWII. They were put in prison
here in the USA.

Thus if you have relatives living outside the USA, you will never have
to worry about JW's killing them on the battlefield, since they remain
neutral as to this world's carnal wars.

No, you won't find a more obedient religious group obeying Jesus'
commands, than the JW's.

James
John 4:23,24
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Sorry, you are wrong since you are not suffering for Jesus Christ.

“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say allkinds
of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12Rejoice and beexceedingly
glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so theypersecuted the
prophets who were before you.


Matthew 5:11-12
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> Sorry, you are wrong again as Paul's letter to Titus has nothing to
> do with religion. Paul commanded Titus to organize the existing
> churches specifically on the island of Crete via the appointment of
> elders. The Christian faith is not limited to just one island in
> context.

So then according to your logic,we are not to make applications to ourselves from Paul's writings to the Romans? No, the Bible says ALL scripture is inspired of God, regardless where it was addressed to. 2 Ti 3:16,

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness." (NAB)

James
John 4:23,24 (and the truth is...John 14:6)
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Obviously, you disregard vast portions of Scripture and never apply them to yourself continually quoting verses out of context.

But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us,through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the HolySpirit, 6whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Titus 3:4-7.

Jehovah's Witnesses will never acknowledge that both the Father and the Son are the Savior.

I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior.
Isaiah 43:11
Simple connections within Scripture are never seen by brainwashed cult members.

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> Obviously, you disregard vast portions of Scripture and never
> apply them to yourself continually quoting verses out of context.
>
> But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man
> appeared, 5not by
> works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His
> mercy He saved
> us,through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the
> HolySpirit, 6whom He poured
> out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7that having
> been justified by His
> grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal
> life.
> Titus 3:4-7.
> Jehovah's Witnesses will never acknowledge that both the Father
> and the Son are the Savior.

>You are in error. They do acknowlege that since that is what the Scriptures teach. (but they don't teach the post-Biblical Trinity)

Try understanding the word "and" or English 101 and notice equality being expressed.
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen. 2 Corinthians 13:14.

>The OT scriptures above make it clear who the "Savior" is, it is Jehovah God. For unless He sent his Son to die for mankind, there would be no hope for us.

Note: Whenever you find YHWH 'elohim in the OT it means that God is a plurality of persons since the singular form of 'elohim is 'elowah. But the cult organization babylon watchtower would never teach its followers these facts.

Now it is time to come into the NT and understand progressive revelation.

>So what does it mean when the word "Savior" is also applied to God's
son, Jesus?

Since Jesus Christ is holy and without sin He does not need to be saved. Cult members can never understand context.
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted aswe are, yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15.

>Jesus himself said that his God, Jehovah, was also his savior. He 5:7
says,

" In the days of his flesh [Christ] offered up supplications and also
petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. "

Jehovah's Witnesses will never understand that Jesus Christ had two distinct natures. First, He was 100% human. Thus His humanity was saved and was resurrected. That is why Hebrews 5:7 says "In the days of his flesh."
Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in themidst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” 37But they wereterrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. 38AndHe said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arisein your hearts? 39Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself.Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones asyou see I have.”
Luke 24:38-39.

>Also Ps 28:8 says,
" Jehovah is a strength to his people,
And he is a stronghold of the grand salvation of his anointed one."

Jehovah's Witnesses will never understand that Jesus Christ had two distinct natures. Second, He was 100% God. This He is the author of salvation.
And having been perfected, He becamethe author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, Hebrews 5:9. (why did you stop at just verse 7?)

>Jehovah's provision for salvation was his son. Acts 5:31, " God exalted this one as Chief Agent and Savior to his right hand, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins."

Thus Jesus can properly be called "Savior" even though he is acting as
an agent of his Father, Jehovah.

Sorry, you are eternally wrong as Jesus Christ is defined by the Apostle Paul as THE SAVIOR. Yes, you are in disobedience to God since babylon watchtower has convinced you that all Christians will not be in heaven.
For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21who will transform our lowly body that it may beconformed to His glorious body, according to the working bywhich He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
Philippians 3:20-21.

>Please note this. The name of "Jesus" which was given by angelic
direction, actually means, "Jehovah is Salvation" This name tells us
that Jehovah is the source of Salvation which is carried out through
Jesus. So we see the Father and Son spoken together as our Salvation. Titus 2:11-13,

Yes, the Father and Son together is the Christian Savior.
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all (EVIL); and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30I and My Father are one (GOD).”
John 10:27-30

>"For the undeserved kindness of God which brings salvation to all sorts of men has been manifested, 12 instructing us to repudiate ungodliness and worldly desires and to live with soundness of mind and righteousness and godly devotion amid this present system of things, 13
while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus,"

Note: babylon watchtower has twisted Scripture by declaring that the Father will be manifested by inserting words that do not belong in Scripture and ends up twisting it.
No one has seen God at any time.The only begotten ◙ Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. John 1:18.

>Also Titus 3:4-6,

" However, when the kindness and the love for man on the part of our
Savior, God, was manifested, 5 owing to no works in righteousness that
we had performed, but according to his mercy he saved us through the
bath that brought us to life and through the making of us new by holy
spirit. 6 This [spirit] he poured out richly upon us through Jesus
Christ our Savior,"

>There is no part of a mysterious Trinity here. The word 'Trinity' is not found in the Bible and was
not defined until men defined it at the
Council of Nicea in 325 A.D.

Note: This is a stupid statement above. Since the word "BIBLE" is not in the Bible then using babylon watchtower reasoning, the Bible does not exist.

However just reading Scripture one must realize that three Persons are being talked about and the Greek word for Spirit refers strictly to a person.
“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, Hewill testify of Me." John 15:27

>Thus the Bible does not teach that Jesus was Jehovah, or was a God-man, but Jesus had to be equal to Adam in order to be a corresponding ransom. Adam was not a God-man, but was only a man, who was perfect in the beginning. Jesus also had to be a perfect man of corresponding value. (1 Cor 15:45; 1 Ti 2:5,6)

Sorry, you are absolutely wrong by saying Jesus Christ is equal to Adam and damnation is upon you. First restoration was far more than the original lost.
“If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and slaughters it or sells it, he shall restore five oxen for an ox and four sheep for a sheep." Exodus 22:1.

Second, Jesus Christ as God created Adam.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing wasmade that was made. 4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not ◙ comprehend it. John 1:1-5.

Sadly, Jehovah Witnesses are in spiritual darkness and do not comprehend that they need to bow their hearts and knees to Jesus Christ.

>James
John 4:23,24 (and the truth is ...John 14:6)

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