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Madam

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Sep 22, 2007, 5:11:27 PM9/22/07
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That message that Despota wrote on the Indiana list was directed at
*you*. I called your archbishop twice to report your gossip. Do I need
to tell Despota to call your archbishop? I think I will. I posted a
message to Celt that I want you to post, then I want you to email me
and let me know you posted it and then I want you to remove me. Can
you do that for me? Thanks.

You are doing the exact same thing that Fr. Isidore HATES. Do you get
it?

I feel sorry for Fr. Isidore. He has been weakened by his alcoholism.
I hope he has finally hit bottom. This is insanity, for him and for me.

OrthoNews9

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Sep 22, 2007, 5:47:35 PM9/22/07
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"Madam" <olympi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190495487....@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> That message that Despota wrote on the Indiana list was directed at
> *you*. I called your archbishop twice to report your gossip.


***YOU are a troublemaker.


Do I need
> to tell Despota to call your archbishop? I think I will. I posted a
> message to Celt that I want you to post, then I want you to email me
> and let me know you posted it and then I want you to remove me. Can
> you do that for me? Thanks.


***You unsubscribed. Resubscribe and post it yourself!


>
> You are doing the exact same thing that Fr. Isidore HATES. Do you get
> it?


***You hate!!!


>
> I feel sorry for Fr. Isidore. He has been weakened by his alcoholism.
> I hope he has finally hit bottom. This is insanity, for him and for me.


***Maybe you are insane.

***Leave Hieromonk Ambrose alone.


Troia

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Sep 22, 2007, 6:15:22 PM9/22/07
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I feel sorry for Fr. Isidore having this malicious harridan decide that
she can speak for him.

He's truly lost if he has sunk to that level.


-- Troia

OrthoNews9

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"Troia" <troia....@gmail.removethiscom> wrote in message
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***A vicious and very sick mind.


Madam

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Sep 22, 2007, 7:11:07 PM9/22/07
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On Sep 22, 3:15 pm, Troia <troia.leg...@gmail.removethiscom> wrote:
> OrthoNews9 wrote:
> > "Madam" <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> -- Troia- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Since I have not shown the MVPD any of your messages yet, but the
identifying email from a friend regarding you, and I have others by
the way, I will speak to you. You are the malicious one, that is what
my priesthood told me. I am going to speak for him. He is a simple
man, and a monk and a priest and Meesoon Shirley Chong is a sadistic
fem domme. Fr. Isidore doesn't know a damn thing about sadomasochism
or fem dommes for that matter. Meesoon Shirley Chong is perverting
him. Now DD says today BN is my bf, so I am writing this for him,
trying to provoke his protective instincts. I hope BN writes to
Meesoon Shirley Chong and chews her head off. I know he inquires after
women who write about his clergy in other groups. BN has two MBAs and
worked as the director for Family Support Services for the state of
Nevada so I know he could get Meesoon Shirley Chong if he wanted to
and I hope he does. . He should shut her down, and you too. I am pure
as the rain that is falling today. I went from Eastern Orthodox
marriage to celibacy. How dare you defame me. I am going to be adding
that message to my new case at the MVPD so I might not be able to
write to you anymore after that. Your day is coming Troia AKA ... I
will shut you down.

Fr. Isidore has lost nothing but his ego and his false pride, which is
a good thing. He is still a priest, and that is what is most important
to him, and he will not lose that.

Olympiada

athair ambrois

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Sep 22, 2007, 7:45:00 PM9/22/07
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On Sep 23, 9:11 am, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That message that Despota wrote on the Indiana list was directed at
> *you*. I called your archbishop twice to report your gossip. Do I need
> to tell Despota to call your archbishop? I think I will. I posted a
> message to Celt that I want you to post, then I want you to email me
> and let me know you posted it and then I want you to remove me. Can
> you do that for me? Thanks.

Are you meaning that message from "Bishop" Christodoolos who belongs
to a dissident group which tears at the seamless robe of Christ? Why
does all this fragmentation of Orthodoxy seem to be concentrated in
the States? <sigh>

I thought it was directed at Nathaniel. Have you not seen his article
on his website about John Michalakis (aka Bishop Christodoulos)?

Are you not aware of your own Church's judgement of this "Bishop"?
Why not "Ask Vladyka" on the OCA Alaskan website? I am sure he will
tell you to flee from false hierarchs.


athair ambrois

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Sep 22, 2007, 7:48:06 PM9/22/07
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Olympiada's unusual definition of gossip!?

I moderate Celt List and this is what I placed in it.
_____________________
Dear list kin,

What other groups have dubbed the Olympiada Circus is sometimes
entertaining but in the end destructive of the List. Hundreds of
posts from Oly of a highly personal nature and responses to her soon
overwhelm the List. The tenor and purpose of the list is swamped. Old
timers unsubscribe and flee.

Please, if your posts do not have some connection with Celtic
Christianity, or with Christian themes in general, consider not
sending them. Your attention to preserving the purpose of this list
is appreciated.

Thanks,
Fr Ambrose - Moderator
_______________________

athair ambrois

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Sep 22, 2007, 7:53:38 PM9/22/07
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On Sep 23, 9:11 am, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I posted a
> message to Celt that I want you to post, then I want you to email me
> and let me know you posted it and then I want you to remove me. Can
> you do that for me? Thanks.

It's much quicker for you to remove yourself.

Unsubscribe details are at the bottom of every message you receive
from the List.

Since you have aleady done this about 10 times, you will be able to do
it again.

OrthoNews9

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Sep 22, 2007, 8:02:55 PM9/22/07
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"athair ambrois" <em...@globe.net.nz> wrote in message
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> On Sep 23, 9:11 am, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That message that Despota wrote on the Indiana list was directed at
>> *you*. I called your archbishop twice to report your gossip. Do I need
>> to tell Despota to call your archbishop? I think I will. I posted a
>> message to Celt that I want you to post, then I want you to email me
>> and let me know you posted it and then I want you to remove me. Can
>> you do that for me? Thanks.
>
> Are you meaning that message from "Bishop" Christodoolos who belongs
> to a dissident group which tears at the seamless robe of Christ? Why
> does all this fragmentation of Orthodoxy seem to be concentrated in
> the States? <sigh>


***Maybe because there are few people in the rest of the world interested in
organized religion, especially Christianity.

OrthoNews9

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Sep 22, 2007, 8:04:26 PM9/22/07
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"athair ambrois" <em...@globe.net.nz> wrote in message
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***Thanks for the Saturday night chuckle!!


coyote

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Sep 22, 2007, 8:21:23 PM9/22/07
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Madam wrote:

> I am pure
> as the rain that is falling today.

Ever heard of acid rain, you malicious harridan?

--
~coyote

#2 on Atlanta/Olympiada's Lits o'Haet (or #1, or #3. It depends.)
(I've been deposed by Huey)
#1 Pedantic Wangle-Fucked Nitpicker

athair ambrois

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Sep 22, 2007, 8:27:55 PM9/22/07
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On Sep 23, 11:45 am, athair ambrois <em...@globe.net.nz> wrote:

> Are you not aware of your own Church's judgement of this "Bishop"?
> Why not "Ask Vladyka" on the OCA Alaskan website? I am sure he will
> tell you to flee from false hierarchs.

Here is somthing posted on Nathaniel's site. It would be this that
concerns "Bishop" Christodolos.

"The scandals involving the ordinations of both titular Bp
Christodoulos," says an observer from Greece, "and Father Niphon, have
come to the attention of the GOC Synod in Athens," continued the
observer. "Bp Christodoulos directed and acted in X rated films prior
to being ordained by Met Paul; Fr Niphon, the Abbot of Astoria's
Ascension Monastery, got a girl pregnant before being ordained by Met
Paul."
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/

Earler entries on Nathaniel's site have further news of the bishop's
films, including links to film sites which rate them and discuss them.


OrthoNews9

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Sep 22, 2007, 8:46:48 PM9/22/07
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"coyote" <n...@spam.thx> wrote in message news:19118b....@news.alt.net...

> Madam wrote:
>
>> I am pure
>> as the rain that is falling today.
>
> Ever heard of acid rain, you malicious harridan?

har·ri·dan (h²r"¹-dn) n. A woman regarded as scolding and vicious. [Possibly
from French haridelle, gaunt woman, old horse, nag.]


equalpr...@gmail.com

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Sep 22, 2007, 9:12:25 PM9/22/07
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On Sep 22, 4:11 pm, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Now DD says today BN is my bf, so I am writing this for him,
> trying to provoke his protective instincts.

I'm sorry...your daughter says that Bishop Nikolai is your boyfriend?
And this is supposed to alter reality...how?

Lynn

Madam

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Sep 22, 2007, 9:36:06 PM9/22/07
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I don't read Nathaniel's blog. It makes me sick. You are defaming
Despota as well. Vladyka Nikolai and I are not getting along right now.
DD thinks he is my bf. He is not. In addition, Vladyka Nikolai is too
busy to answer my questions. I already told Despota last night that my
priest would tell me to flee from false hierarchs. I got on Despota's
case about his choice of best female friends, told him it didn't look
good. I dislike him.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Madam

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Sep 22, 2007, 9:37:19 PM9/22/07
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That was not needed. I left that list. You emailed me. I went back. I
wrote a message to the list, asked you to post it and then asked you to
remove me. Your list is abusive and you are abusive. There is no point
in me reading any more of your messages.

M. Shirley Chong

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Sep 22, 2007, 9:53:14 PM9/22/07
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athair ambrois wrote:

> Olympiada's unusual definition of gossip!?
>
> I moderate Celt List and this is what I placed in it.
> _____________________
> Dear list kin,
>
> What other groups have dubbed the Olympiada Circus is sometimes
> entertaining but in the end destructive of the List.

Good for you for standing up to her not-so-veiled threats, Your
Venerableness!


Shirley

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Sep 22, 2007, 10:12:07 PM9/22/07
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athair ambrois wrote:

I had a hard time trying to go through that website for information on
Bishop Christodoulos and Father Niphon. In the end, I was too appalled
to go further. That website is full of hatred for Jews (self hatred it
seems), for the ROCOR, for Greeks and others. So I never found what yuo
wanted people to read on that site related to our bishops CHristodoulos
and Niphon.

>
>
>
>

TyMeDwn1st

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Sep 22, 2007, 10:37:54 PM9/22/07
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:11:07 -0000, Madam <olympi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>BN has two MBAs and
>worked as the director for Family Support Services for the state of
>Nevada

Stop lying about him, Atlanta. You know very well he held no such job.

--
Ty
Who is mostly just a
slightly skewed
Donna Reed

"You and I are told increasingly that we have to choose between
a left or a right. There is only an up or down:  up to man's age-old
dream -- the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and
order -- or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless
of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade
our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course."
Ronald Reagan, Republican National Convention, 1964

athair ambrois

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Sep 22, 2007, 10:40:47 PM9/22/07
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On Sep 23, 2:12 pm, ++ <sp...@erols.com> wrote:

> I had a hard time trying to go through that website for information on
> Bishop Christodoulos and Father Niphon. In the end, I was too appalled
> to go further. That website is full of hatred for Jews (self hatred it
> seems), for the ROCOR, for Greeks and others. So I never found what yuo
> wanted people to read on that site related to our bishops CHristodoulos
> and Niphon.

Yes, the site is putrid but it gave some information on this film
maker turned dissident bishop.

Nobody denies that genuine metanoia is possible for all of us sinners
but they ought not to be elevated to the episcopate. It seems to
contradict the Pauline requirement for the character of a candidate
for bishop.

Something about the bishop - secular name: John Elias Michalakis (aka
John Michaels aka Bishop Christodoulos)

These are just the type of X-rated horror movies he used to make
before he took up the crosier.

His films:
I Was A Teenage Zombie (rape, living dismemberment after rape)
The Toxic Avenger
Splatter University
Campus Killings
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093238/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0584386/
http://www.bleedingskull.com/vhs/teenagezombie.html

++

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Sep 22, 2007, 10:56:23 PM9/22/07
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athair ambrois wrote:

>On Sep 23, 2:12 pm, ++ <sp...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I had a hard time trying to go through that website for information on
>>Bishop Christodoulos and Father Niphon. In the end, I was too appalled
>>to go further. That website is full of hatred for Jews (self hatred it
>>seems), for the ROCOR, for Greeks and others. So I never found what yuo
>>wanted people to read on that site related to our bishops CHristodoulos
>>and Niphon.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, the site is putrid but it gave some information on this film
>maker turned dissident bishop.
>
>Nobody denies that genuine metanoia is possible for all of us sinners
>but they ought not to be elevated to the episcopate. It seems to
>contradict the Pauline requirement for the character of a candidate
>for bishop.
>
>Something about the bishop - secular name: John Elias Michalakis (aka
>John Michaels aka Bishop Christodoulos)
>
>

Where is he bishop? I could not find him on the Goarch site
(www.goarch.org) .

athair ambrois

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Sep 23, 2007, 12:17:20 AM9/23/07
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On Sep 23, 9:11 am, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I feel sorry for Fr. Isidore. He has been weakened by his alcoholism.
> I hope he has finally hit bottom. This is insanity, for him and for me.

> He is a simple


> man, and a monk and a priest and Meesoon Shirley Chong is a
> sadistic fem domme. Fr. Isidore doesn't know a damn thing
> about sadomasochism or fem dommes for that matter.
> Meesoon Shirley Chong is perverting him.

> Fr. Isidore has lost nothing but his ego and his false pride,


> which is a good thing.

Oly, you were forbidden by Fr Isidore to speak about him.

And how awful it must be for Bishop Nikolai that you continue to speak
ill of his protege on the Net. Bishop Nikolai raised him to be the
highest ranking priest in the OCA - a mitred archimandrite. Now you
rubbish him in a heinous fashion and his mentor Bishop Nikolai and all
the bishops of OCA.

Troia

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Sep 23, 2007, 3:06:52 AM9/23/07
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++ wrote:
>
>
> athair ambrois wrote:
>
>> On Sep 23, 2:12 pm, ++ <sp...@erols.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I had a hard time trying to go through that website for information on
>>> Bishop Christodoulos and Father Niphon. In the end, I was too appalled
>>> to go further. That website is full of hatred for Jews (self hatred it
>>> seems), for the ROCOR, for Greeks and others. So I never found what yuo
>>> wanted people to read on that site related to our bishops CHristodoulos
>>> and Niphon.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the site is putrid but it gave some information on this film
>> maker turned dissident bishop.
>>
>> Nobody denies that genuine metanoia is possible for all of us sinners
>> but they ought not to be elevated to the episcopate. It seems to
>> contradict the Pauline requirement for the character of a candidate
>> for bishop.
>>
>> Something about the bishop - secular name: John Elias Michalakis (aka
>> John Michaels aka Bishop Christodoulos)
>>
>>
>
> Where is he bishop? I could not find him on the Goarch site

There are various mentions:
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/2007/08/09/
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/2007/08/14/

and a discussion on yahoo's Orthodox Traditions group.

and this
http://www.stlukeorthodox.com/html/innews/orthodoxlovepope.cfm
(start at "By Bishop Christodoulos - Auxiliary to the Metropolitan Pavlos
Hellenic Orthodox Traditionalist Church of America Astoria, N.Y.")

and
http://www.hotca.org/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3
and
http://www.hotca.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=1&id=38&Itemid=90

and others.


-- Troia

Troia

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Sep 23, 2007, 3:51:27 AM9/23/07
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Madam wrote:
> ... Now DD says today BN is my bf, so I am writing this for him,

> trying to provoke his protective instincts.

I wonder how your daughter ever got the idea that -anyone- would have
bishops for "bf"s (boyfriends).

Have you not explained to her that trying to make a "bf" of a Bishop is,
to say the least, deliberately distracting him from his vocation?

> I hope BN writes to
> Meesoon Shirley Chong and chews her head off. I know he inquires after
> women who write about his clergy in other groups. BN has two MBAs and
> worked as the director for Family Support Services for the state of
> Nevada so I know he could get Meesoon Shirley Chong if he wanted to
> and I hope he does.

You hope Nikolai "gets" Shirley? And just how would you hope he would
"get" Shirley?

And since she's not raising any children at this time, exactly what
connection is there to "Family Support Services"?

Just what are you hoping he would do to Shirley to "get" her for you?


-- Troia

Madam

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Sep 23, 2007, 4:14:10 AM9/23/07
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You know what? I am not pleased with BN either. I am not speaking ill
of anyone on the net. I am the one who told you of his rank. I am not
rubbishing him. I say that we all stop talking about him on Usenet
period, that means each and everyone one of us, right now, but that's
not going to happen. Some people feel they can name whomever they want
in public with impunity. They are the ones that need to get silenced,
especially when they are not even Christians let alone Eastern
Orthodox.

athair ambrois

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Sep 23, 2007, 9:54:52 AM9/23/07
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On Sep 23, 12:02 pm, "OrthoNews9" <orthone...@nospam.net> wrote:

> ***Maybe because there are few people in the rest of the world interested in
> organized religion, especially Christianity.


Organised religion, Al? Organised religion? <splutter> :-)

Haven't you seem the number plates on cars?

"The Orthodox Church - disorganised religion at its finest."

__________________
Holy Father Patrick, pray for us.
Holy Mother Brigid, pray for us.
Holy Father Colmcille, pray for us.


.

Madam

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Sep 23, 2007, 11:07:44 AM9/23/07
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Why not tell us about how the man who is not my husband refuses to
venerate St. Patrick? Enlighten the world.

Fnord Prefect Fnord

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Sep 23, 2007, 11:14:29 AM9/23/07
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:07:44 -0700, Madam wrote:


>>
> Why not tell us about how the man who is not my husband refuses to
> venerate St. Patrick? Enlighten the world.
>

Every man in the world is not your husband.

Alexander Arnakis

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Sep 23, 2007, 12:54:03 PM9/23/07
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:56:23 -0400, ++ <sp...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>Where is he bishop? I could not find him on the Goarch site
>(www.goarch.org) .
>
Come on, Galina. Are you just playing dumb? Of course you couldn't
find him on the Goarch website because he's a vagante "bishop."

OrthoNews9

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"Fnord Prefect Fnord" <fnord...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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***Which proves there is a God!!! :-)


OrthoNews9

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"Alexander Arnakis" <inv...@address.none> wrote in message
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***And Nathaniel Kapner is a nothing converted Jew. He's not a monk, he's
unemployed and often asks for living expenses through his blog... He's a
nutty wannabe Orthodox.


++

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Sep 23, 2007, 9:46:17 PM9/23/07
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Alexander Arnakis wrote:

How should I know? I literally looked through every list of bishops on
the GOARCH site. Vagrante which? There are a lotta jurisdictions aout
there.

>
>
>

++

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Sep 24, 2007, 12:26:35 AM9/24/07
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Troia wrote:


I think I'll give that incredibly racist site a miss.

>
> and a discussion on yahoo's Orthodox Traditions group.


OK, I don't read that group.

>
> and this
> http://www.stlukeorthodox.com/html/innews/orthodoxlovepope.cfm
> (start at "By Bishop Christodoulos - Auxiliary to the Metropolitan Pavlos
> Hellenic Orthodox Traditionalist Church of America Astoria, N.Y.")


OK, looking them up...They are evidently not St. Markella's which used
to be a separate old calendarist Greek communiyt in New York (which I am
familiar with for years) but joined with the GOA.


Oh, ok, I have actually seen these guys. A son and I rolled by the
Clearwater church (both of us like St. Nektarios a lot) the last time we
were down in the area. We asked around, because they emphasize their
old calendar adherence. Local Russian Orthodox population was general
favorable toward that particular parish.


Uh, wait a minute. These guys I THOUGHT were taken back into the
GOA???? St. Markella's is still in their list!!! OK, what's up?

Note parish directory:
http://www.hotca.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=74&Itemid=90

>
> and others.
>
>
> -- Troia


Are they or are they not vagrante???

athair ambrois

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Sep 24, 2007, 12:38:46 AM9/24/07
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On Sep 24, 3:07 am, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why not tell us about how the man who is not my husband refuses to
> venerate St. Patrick? Enlighten the world.

All we have are his words to the Indiana List. Thousands of Irish
converts fled the OCA and went to ROCA which has a proper veneration
of Saint Patrick and a Service (Vigil and Liturgy) to Saint Patrick in
Slavonic approved by the Synod of Bishops in the 1970s. Written by
the late Valeria Hoecke, God rest her.

Troia

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Sep 24, 2007, 12:46:15 AM9/24/07
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++ wrote:
...

> Uh, wait a minute. These guys I THOUGHT were taken back into the
> GOA???? St. Markella's is still in their list!!! OK, what's up?
>
> Note parish directory:
> http://www.hotca.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=74&Itemid=90
>


Just out of curiosity, can you explain their rather odd domain name
registration?

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=hotca.org


-- Troia

Madam

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Sep 24, 2007, 12:54:00 AM9/24/07
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Those words written a long time ago. Do you think he still feels the
same. Do you know what he is doing these days? Somebody asked me during
the fellowship today and I could not tell that person. Actually two
people asked after him. I only imagine he is working on his memoirs and
this other writing projects that he had putting me off. Perhaps he might
wish to post an update on the Indiana list for those who are interested
in what he is doing. If not you could ask him to post it to Orthodox
Jurisdictions and ask him if you could forward me a copy. Of course, I
always encourage everyone who asks me to write to him them self. I don't
think they do. They get discouraged when I don't know anything about him
and give up. :(

++

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Sep 24, 2007, 11:21:00 PM9/24/07
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Dear athair ambrois,

I'm in the OCA. We venerate St. Patrick, sing tropars etc. etc.. A
recent deacon at a local cathedral was named Patrick.

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Sep 24, 2007, 11:36:10 PM9/24/07
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Troia wrote:


Waiting for link to load....

There seem to be two parts. The first part has the Greek webmaster at a
pizza parlor??? ok:

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>Registrant ID:GODA-014515668
>Registrant Name:Matthew Kalamidas
>Registrant Organization:Pyndus Studio
>Registrant Street1:4 Claremont Road
>Registrant Street2:
>Registrant Street3:
>Registrant City:Old Bethpage
>Registrant State/Province:New York
>Registrant Postal Code:11804
>Registrant Country:US
>Registrant Phone:+1.5162256304
>Registrant Phone Ext.:
>Registrant FAX:
>Registrant FAX Ext.:
>Registrant Email:MKala...@optonline.net
>Admin ID:GODA-214515668
>Admin Name:Matthew Kalamidas
>Admin Organization:Mario's Pizza
>Admin Street1:4 Claremont Road
>Admin Street2:
>Admin Street3:
>Admin City:Old Bethpage
>Admin State/Province:New York
>Admin Postal Code:11804
>Admin Country:US
>Admin Phone:+1.5162256304
>Admin Phone Ext.:
>Admin FAX:
>Admin FAX Ext.:
>Admin Email:MKala...@optonline.net
>Tech ID:GODA-114515668
>Tech Name:Matthew Kalamidas
>Tech Organization:Mario's Pizza
>Tech Street1:4 Claremont Road
>Tech Street2:
>Tech Street3:
>Tech City:Old Bethpage
>Tech State/Province:New York
>Tech Postal Code:11804
>Tech Country:US
>Tech Phone:+1.5162256304
>Tech Phone Ext.:
>Tech FAX:
>Tech FAX Ext.:
>Tech Email:MKala...@optonline.net
>Name Server:NS13-1.FUTUREPOINT.COM
>Name Server:NS13-2.FUTUREPOINT.COM
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>Name Server:
>
>
>
> The previous information has been obtained either directly from
> the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network
> Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its
> accuracy or completeness.
>
> Show underlying registry data for this record
> <http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/registry-data.jsp;jsessionid=3ab547015afc41233a4d5293db608:KCNW?domain=hotca.org>
>
>
>
>

THen there is a second part

> *IP Address:* 67.15.8.86
> <http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/arin-details.jsp;jsessionid=3ab547015afc41233a4d5293db608:KCNW?domainTitle=hotca.org&ip=67.15.8.86> (ARIN
> & RIPE IP search)
> *IP Location:* US(UNITED STATES)-CALIFORNIA-BEVERLY HILLS
> *Record Type:* Domain Name
> *Server Type:* Apache 2
> *Web Site Status:* Active
> * DMOZ * no listings
> * Y! Directory: * see listings
> <http://search.yahoo.com/search/dir?p=HOTCA.ORG>
> *Web Site Title:* Holy Metropolis G.O.C. of America - Home
> *Meta Description:* Joomla - the dynamic portal engine and content
> management system
> *Meta Keywords:* Joomla, joomla
> *Secure:* No
> *E-commerce:* No
> *Traffic Ranking:* Not available
> *Data as of:* 31-Jul-2007
>
which makes no sense at all.


OK, clicking on the underlying registry gives the same info as part one.

So, what is the point? It is a Greek old calendar jurisdiction with
churches across the US. It has a Greek webmaster with an IP in Beverly
Hills, California, where there are a sufficient number of Greek old
calendarists (there are a number of old calendar Greek and
Greek/American parishes of some size on the west coast) and the guy who
provides web mastering has a pizza parlor as his day job.

>
>
> -- Troia
>

Troia

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Sep 24, 2007, 11:55:11 PM9/24/07
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++ wrote:
>
>
> Troia wrote:
>
>> ++ wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> Uh, wait a minute. These guys I THOUGHT were taken back into the
>>> GOA???? St. Markella's is still in their list!!! OK, what's up?
>>>
>>> Note parish directory:
>>> http://www.hotca.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=74&Itemid=90
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, can you explain their rather odd domain name
>> registration?
>>
>> http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=hotca.org
>
>
> Waiting for link to load....
>
> There seem to be two parts. The first part has the Greek webmaster at a
> pizza parlor??? ok:
...

>
> THen there is a second part
>
>> *IP Address:* 67.15.8.86
>> <http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/arin-details.jsp;jsessionid=3ab547015afc41233a4d5293db608:KCNW?domainTitle=hotca.org&ip=67.15.8.86>
>> (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
>> *IP Location:* US(UNITED STATES)-CALIFORNIA-BEVERLY HILLS
>> *Record Type:* Domain Name
>> *Server Type:* Apache 2
>> *Web Site Status:* Active
>> * DMOZ * no listings
>> * Y! Directory: * see listings
>> <http://search.yahoo.com/search/dir?p=HOTCA.ORG>
>> *Web Site Title:* Holy Metropolis G.O.C. of America - Home
>> (snip)

> which makes no sense at all.
>
>
> OK, clicking on the underlying registry gives the same info as part one.
>
> So, what is the point? It is a Greek old calendar jurisdiction with
> churches across the US. It has a Greek webmaster with an IP in Beverly
> Hills, California, where there are a sufficient number of Greek old
> calendarists (there are a number of old calendar Greek and
> Greek/American parishes of some size on the west coast) and the guy who
> provides web mastering has a pizza parlor as his day job.


No particular point other than that it all seemed very odd to me, not
what I would've expected, so I asked!


-- Troia

athair ambrois

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Sep 25, 2007, 2:13:38 AM9/25/07
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On Sep 25, 3:21 pm, ++ <sp...@erols.com> wrote:
> Dear athair ambrois,
>
> I'm in the OCA. We venerate St. Patrick, sing tropars etc. etc.. A
> recent deacon at a local cathedral was named Patrick.

Perhaps the non-veneration of Saint Patrick is restricted to the OCA
Diocese of the West. Retired Bishop Tikhon was a stickler for the
Menaion and Saint Patrick is not in there.

Madam

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Sep 25, 2007, 2:34:07 AM9/25/07
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Now what just a minute. Don't speak for my diocese!

athair ambrois

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Sep 25, 2007, 3:14:13 AM9/25/07
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On Sep 25, 6:34 pm, Madam <olympiada2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Perhaps the non-veneration of Saint Patrick is restricted to the OCA
> > Diocese of the West. Retired Bishop Tikhon was a stickler for the
> > Menaion and Saint Patrick is not in there.
>
> Now what just a minute. Don't speak for my diocese!

Bishop Tikhon was quite clear that he authorised no services to Saint
Patrick in his diocese because he is not included in the Menaion.

I am not speaking for your diocese. Your (ex) bishop was speaking for
his diocese. You seem to think that *you* can speak for the bishop?

Madam

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Sep 25, 2007, 3:20:24 AM9/25/07
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Bishop Tikhon is no longer in charge. Saint Seraphim's has a fresco of
Saint Patrick on the wall. I have a photograph in my archives. I know
how my X bishop thinks, believe me. I can not speak for the bishop. You
are the one who brought it up on your list. Frankly, I don't care. St.
Patrick is inconsequential to me as well, so I am with my X bishop on
this one. I don't think anyone can speak for the bishop. He couldn't
even keep a secretary around. He is a VERY private man, perhaps the most
private man I have ever met. Everyone knows he is a very private man,
that is his reputation. I think its time we table the discussion on my X
bishop and the menaion. I am not getting anything out of it, are you? It
just makes me sad to talk about my X bishop. I would rather not. He is
dead to me.

R.V. Gronoff

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Sep 25, 2007, 4:07:36 AM9/25/07
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athair ambrois a écrit :

Mt 5:11 Blessed are ye when they may reproach and persecute you, and
say every wicked thing against you, lying, for my sake.

Madam

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Sep 25, 2007, 2:52:04 PM9/25/07
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This message is for a new friend of mine whom I believe cares about Fr.
Isidore and might be able to help him. Please read this message and come
help if you can. I have failed Fr. Isidore and am now being blamed for
Fr. Isidore's failings in return.
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