Rebecca Brown M.D. a.k.a. Ruth Bailey and Satanism
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Rebecca Brown M.D. has written at least four books:
He Came to set the Captives Free
Prepare for War
Becoming a Vessel of Honor
Unbroken Curses
Her website is: http://www.harvestwarriors.com/
I need information about Rebecca Brown, Elaine a.k.a. Elaine Moses, and
Daniel Yoder other than what is already on the Internet (Drugs, demons,
delusions), demonbuster.com, answers.org. We are trying to find out if this
woman REALLY is a Satanist and if her books are truly Satanic. If anyone
knows VALID information about this situation please post it or e-mail us at
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God bless
Scott May
as a help when I had a friend that was demon possessed or oppressed and the
book she wrote was very helpful.
When the demons talked threw her they told us to get rid of to books
the BIBLE and her Books that she wrote.
Scott May
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> Daniel Yoder other than what is already on the Internet (Drugs, demons,
> delusions), demonbuster.com, answers.org. We are trying to find out if this
> woman REALLY is a Satanist and if her books are truly Satanic. If anyone
> knows VALID information about this situation please post it or e-mail us at
> adNOSP...@yahoo.com.
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I looked up her web site a few months ago. She was on the web, and
her email is posted.
I encourage people not to read her books. I read maybe one and a half
of them in my early 20's. I had trouble sleeping, especially after
reading the part about if you relax your mind, demons can influence
you. Her books can cause trouble, particularly if you believe
everything she writes. I have read on the internet and talked with
other people have had difficulty sleeping after reading Rebecca
Brown's books. I think the reason is because they make the Devil out
to be so big, and Christians' power seem so small.
One question I had somewhere along the way is, why is she writing this
book? Wouldn't it be better if someone who could cast out demons right
away, without having to fight with them for a week like she did wrote
a book? There are plenty of books out there on demonology that are a
lot better and a lot more Biblical.
I don't have any reason to believe that Rebecca Brown is a witch. I
do have plenty of reason to believe that her books promote unbiblical
doctrine. If her books are all true and accurate, and assuming that
Ellen were telling the truth, she is getting her demonology of the
spirit-world from a former high priests demonic experience. Demonic
visions are no basis for Christian doctrine on demonology.
For example, Brown's idea that we have 'spirit bodies' that can leave
our bodies, if empowered by demons, and go throw plates at our enemies
in their apartments, is not based on scripture. She takes a verse out
of context which is about the way Christian's bodies will be IN THE
RESURRECTION and uses this as a proof text for the idea of
spirit-bodies. Just look up all the scriptures she uses to 'prove'
her doctrines in those early books.
Assuming Rebecca Brown as sincere and genuine, why should she believe
anything she 'learned' from Ellen about the spirit-world. How do we
know that her astral projection experiences weren't just demonic
visions, and not reality. The story about one demon tearing another
apart reminded me of that verse, if Satan cast out Satan, how can then
his kingdom stand. If demons don't cast out demons, then would they
tear each other apart? This doesn't make sense to me. If someone saw
demons displaying such a thing, how do they know it is true? Maybe
the demons are just putting on a show for the witches to see, to
intimidate them. Maybe it was a made up story that Brown believed and
put in her book. A lot of Brown's teachings on demonology in these
books are based on Ellen's experiences in the occult, and not on
scripture.
Some of her teachings have no merit to them unless you accept KJV
onlyism. She 'proves' things by whether the KJV uses a capital or
small 's' in the word 'spirit.' The Greek didn't have a distinction
between upper and lower case. Some of her arguments about the
existence of vampires and werewolves are not supported by the verses
she quotes. I don't think her argument about 'evil beasts' verses
wild beasts hold water. Are there werewolves? Honestly, I'm open to
the idea of there being werewolves, as well as flying head
witchdoctors (a local story here in Indonesia) and all kinds of
demonic manifestations. I'm a bit skeptical. But if Egyptian
magicians could turn sticks into snakes, maybe demons can manipulate
matter. Who knows? But I don't see any reason to read vampires into
David's statement that his enemies teeth were like spears.
Her books teach a lot of things that aren't backed up by scripture.
Some of the scripture she uses is clearly taken out of context. The
dangerous thing is that some of the scriptures are taken out of
context to support an unbiblical idea that actually comes from the
percieved experience of a allegedly formerly demonized high priestess
witch. Assuming the high priestess didn't also have a problem with
lying when she told her experiences, how reliable are her experiences?
Are the visions demonized people see always more reliable than what
people see on acid trips?
I haven't read her book about being a vessel of honor in the Master's
service. The book has a great title, but I've only looked through it
a couple of times. It seems to have a lot of detail about how to do
witchcraft in it. How many people really need to know this? I read
an Indonesian translation of one part that said that if someone's hand
gets a demon in it (and therefore feels like it is burning) that you
MUST anoint the hand in a very particular way, which involves kind of
like wringing the hand downward toward the fingers, covering it with
oil. The implication is that if you don't do it, the problem would
remain.
I don't know of any scripture at all about anointing the demonized
with oil. Assuming we accept the idea of 'demon-possessed' hands
that feel like they are on fire, why would we HAVE to anoint the hand
in that particular way? COuldn't someone just cast the demon out by
commanding it to go in faith like the apostles in the Bible? If
demons could only be cast out of hands with that specific method of
deliverance, why doesn't the Bible tell us this. This is pretty
important information for people with demonized burning hands.
I don't think you need to go to websites that accuse Brown of being a
witch. Why even pursue this line of reasoning? If you know someone
who is reading Rebecca Brown books, just study her teachings on
demonology based on scripture. Ask as you study whether the verses
she uses are taken out of context. Ask this question too: does the
doctrine she teach come from the Bible, or from the experience of a
witch.
In the meantime, if whoever is reading this book wants to learn about
demonology, carefully look for a book that is consistent with what the
Bible has to say-- not just the hottest sensational book in the
Christian book store. It would help to get a book from someone who
can cast demons out with power. I can understand how it would be
frustrating to get 'played around with' by demons in a perons you are
trying to help. But this is not good experience to write about with
the implication that other people should imitate you. There are
probably some better books out there. The Bible, of course, is an
excellent resource. A lot of people would be better off looking up
all the cases and teachings on excorcism in the Bible, rather than
buying popular books on the subject from a Christian book store.
Derrick
of the exorcisms of Jesus and the apostles, but can't think of any in the
Old Testament.
Yeah, I don't want to read her book after your information about it, but I
think I saw in the 1611 that the princes in Daniel's 70 weeks were
originally capitallized differently. I hadn't known that the Greek didn't
have a capitalization distinction. What about the Old Testament writers?
God Bless you in the beautiful name of Jesus.
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> Do you have any scriptures on exorcism to get me started. I have read some
> of the exorcisms of Jesus and the apostles, but can't think of any in the
> Old Testament.
I don't have a list. If you have a concordance, or if you can use a
concordance on a web site, you could look up 'unclean spirit' in the
KJV. Most references are in the Gospels. Also, Peter mentions Jesus
ministry to those who were oppressed by the Devil in Acts 10. The
later chapters of Acts tell about Paul performing an excorcism in
Philipi. There are a few examples of excorcism when paul was in
Ephesus in the Roman province of Asia in Acts as well. Is there a
particular aspect of the subject you want to learn about?
> Yeah, I don't want to read her book after your information about it, but I
> think I saw in the 1611 that the princes in Daniel's 70 weeks were
> originally capitallized differently. I hadn't known that the Greek didn't
> have a capitalization distinction. What about the Old Testament writers?
Greek does have capitalization now, but ancient Greek is 'all caps,'
so to speak. (Of course, they weren't caps then, since they didn't
have lower case letters to compare them with.)
I took just one quarter of Hebrew in college, and I've never heard of
such a thing as a capitalized classical Hebrew letter. I really don't
htink they have capitals. They didn't even have vowel markings in the
Hebrew Bible until maybe the 300's-- AD that is. That accounts for
James alternate interpretation of the book of Amos in Acts 15-- part
of it anyway. James apparently interpreted a word to be 'Adam' or
mankind or nations, instead of 'Edom.' The KJV of the OT goes with
Edom, because of the later vowel pointings. Maybe the ambiguity is
there on purpose for a prophetic reason.
I think all are capitalization and punction are added by translators.
I think we need to be careful to get our doctrine about demons from
scripture, and not add to it. Some doctrines about demons have no
real basis in scripture. Sometimes, those who teach their doctrines
take scriptures out of context. I've heard teachings that we are
supposed to order principalities and powers over cities to come down.
I don't see that in the Bible. I do see warnings in the book of Jude,
like verse 9. In the Bible, Jesus and the apostles cast demons out of
people, not out of cities. If we can cast out all the spirits from a
city, won't they come back with seven times as many reinforcements.
I don't see any teaching in the Bible telling us to 'bind' spirits.
Jesus used 'binding' the strongman as an allegory for what He was
doing by _casting demons out of people_, and maybe some other ministry
he was doing. 'Binding and loosing' is apparently legal terminology
that the Sanhedrin used to refer to when they allowed or forbid
something.
Some people blame everything on demons. If someone is an alcoholic,
they interpret this to mean he has a 'spirit of drunkeness' or a
'spirit of alcoholism.' If someone is sick, that person is believed
to have a demon spirit.
I believe demons can cause sickness. Some sickenesses in the Gospel
were caused by spirits. But the end of Matthew 4 says that Jesus cast
out demons, healed the 'lunatick' (sorry, KJV English) and healed them
that had diseases. That indicates to me that not all sickness or
mental illness is caused by an indwelling demon.
If character flaws and sins get classified as 'demons' it makes it
hard for someone with this mentality to overcome sin. Instead of
learning to put to death the deeds of the flesh, and accept by faith
that he is dead and raised with Christ, the person who believes all
sin is caused by demons may just spend all his time blaiming his sin
on imaginary demons he rebukes, instead of focusing on overcoming the
lusts of the flesh by the power of the Spirit.
'Deliverance ministry' may help some people who are bound in sin. But
I sure don't think it is a cure all.