How God sorts out the faithful from the fake.

[Michael Christ]

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
understanding.

Faith always sorts out the faithful from the fake.





Michael Christ

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God is God

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

[Ted]

Michael Christ wrote:

> Proverbs 3:5
> Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
> understanding.
>
> Faith always sorts out the faithful from the fake.
>
>
>
> Michael Christ

Interesting. Of course our own understanding won't show us reality.
It's the wrong tool for the job. So what if we discard all our beliefs
and rely only on what God shows us?

[Michael Christ]

On 18/02/2024 9:35 am, Ted wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> Proverbs 3:5
>> Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
>> understanding.
>>
>> Faith always sorts out the faithful from the fake.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
>
>
> Interesting. Of course our own understanding won't show us reality.

Tell that to the hypocrite sinner Christians!

They'll probably find a bible verse for you.

> It's the wrong tool for the job. So what if we discard all our beliefs
> and rely only on what God shows us?

Then you are a believer in God.

[Ted]

Michael Christ wrote:

> On 18/02/2024 9:35 am, Ted wrote:
> > Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > > Proverbs 3:5
> > > Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine
> > > own understanding.
> > >
> > > Faith always sorts out the faithful from the fake.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Christ
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Of course our own understanding won't show us reality.
>
> Tell that to the hypocrite sinner Christians!
>
> They'll probably find a bible verse for you.
>
>
> > It's the wrong tool for the job. So what if we discard all our
> > beliefs and rely only on what God shows us?
>
> Then you are a believer in God.
>
>
> Michael Christ

But our understandings of God are among the beliefs needing to be
discarded. Which is also intimated by the Biblical prohibitions against
idolatry.

[Michael Christ]

On 18/02/2024 11:20 am, Ted wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 18/02/2024 9:35 am, Ted wrote:
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Proverbs 3:5
>>>> Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine
>>>> own understanding.
>>>>
>>>> Faith always sorts out the faithful from the fake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting. Of course our own understanding won't show us reality.
>>
>> Tell that to the hypocrite sinner Christians!
>>
>> They'll probably find a bible verse for you.
>>

Ted wrote:
>>> It's the wrong tool for the job. So what if we discard all our
>>> beliefs and rely only on what God shows us?

Mike wrote:
>> Then you are a believer in God.

Understand: not working on believing in God, but an actual "believer" in
God. In other words, you trust Him.

Ted wrote:
> But our understandings of God are among the beliefs needing to be
> discarded.

Correct, as in Job.

When I say "believer in God," I am not talking about some kind of
process of believing, but faith. If you were to see your child in a
crowd amongst other children, you don't rest on "beliefs" that he is
your child; you just live in that reality (faith).

Do you see what is being said?

> Which is also intimated by the Biblical prohibitions against
> idolatry.

The nature of your questioning appears to paint one into a genuine
corner. So, good questioning! It is good to get it, and it makes me
work, and they are very rare!

However, there is a fine line between faith (deed) and belief.

If I come up to you and say drink that glass of exceptionally good old
scotch, you either choose to or not to. In this scotch case, it is doing
what you are told by faith, not by what you believe or do not believe.
What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is a
leaning on the one you have chosen to trust.

Do you see what is being said?


Henceth...

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine
own understanding.

Faith always sorts out the faithful from the fake.

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

God says to do this or do that—through faith in Him. That is what is
such a stumbling block to sinner Christians with their written
"understandings" under their arms.

But God knows what is in man. Hence...

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine
own understanding.

The proverb means: God is not asking you to believe your own
understanding, but to believe in Him; have faith in Him.

Faith is what sorts the men out from the boys, the faithful from the fake.

Good questioning; well done, Ted.

Anytime.

Also, John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth IN him should not perish, but
have everlasting life.

That verse is saying, believeth in Him—has put their faith in Him—way
past tossing up the options and trying to believe or just believing in
belief and believing in your own understanding.


Now, you got me going even more...

Mar 9:23  Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are
possible to him that believeth.
Mar 9:24  And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said
with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

He is saying help me to have faith. You see, to "realise" the belief, to
bring it alive, like the example I used, to 'live in the reality' of
knowing that kid in the crowd is your son.

Imagine if you kept going up to your son and telling him that you
believed he was your son. He'd look at you and start to think you didn't
believe it.


Mike

[Xian]

Remember what God said about Catholics.

[Ted]

Yes. Having faith in what God shows you and having faith in your
perceptions are essentially equivalent. Right?

Yes! You're spot on. There's the difference and thanks for illustrating
it in such an instructive manner. Beautiful, MX!


>
>
> Mike


Thanks so much, MX.

[Ted]

Yes. As christers, we could all reference scripture showing that the
RCC is against God.

[Michael Christ]

Having true faith in God is having faith in God alone.

In other words, you drink the scotch - an action. The Lord Jesus was
asking for that from the rich young ruler (Mark 10:21); that is where

the rubber meets the road.

That is what is meant by having the Lord Jesus as your Lord. You'd jump
into a fire (Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego), you'd jump into a lion's
den (Daniel), you'd sacrifice your life (Stephen), and so on, and you'd
drink that scotch—no questions asked.

Crazy eh. Well, that is what trust, true faith is—God's standard, and
obviously not hypocrite sinner Christian standard.

That is not for the faint hearted.

The Lord Jesus proved that.

That's if you are predisposed to believe it all, and you know, I do, and
one of the reasons I do is outlined belowethly.

All I ever do, Ted, is...

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

Without any sense of "being better," because I am as you are, what
matters to me is that you get it, Ted. I hope you do. I don't study the
bible anymore, not since 1986, when the Lord told me to put it down by
faith. I walk in the Spirit of Truth, His Spirit, now, but I know that
the bible is the bible, not because of who supposedly physically wrote
it or who didn't write it, or when it was written, or what meanings we
give words in it, etc., etc.

The reason the bible has endured and will always endure is because of
the meaning inside the bible. You can see above that I have just breezed
over a few scriptures, and you are able to perceive, relate to everyday
human life, and experience the truth it is presenting.

It does what it is supposed to do—reveal the ways of God—but it is not
God. I find it amusing to see throughout atheism the desire to bring
down the bible to the level of a comic book, and in sinner hypocrite
Christianity the desire to make it a comical book of religion, but that
is like trying to destroy God by pulling down a statue of Him.

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

[Michael Christ]

Don't eat too much chocolate?

Generally speaking, I find Catholics are more heart-centred, and the
Protestants more head-centred.

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[Ted]

Apt analogy. Thanks MX.