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Steve Hayes

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Jan 6, 2012, 9:47:49 PM1/6/12
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NUN - A member of a religious order or congregation of women living under the
vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. In RC Canon Law only those living
under 'solemn vows' are accounted Nuns (moniales) in the technical sense,
those living under 'simple vows' properly being called sisters (sorores). The
Carthusians require complete bodily integrity, but other orders receive widows
and penitents by dispensation (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church).

The English word "nun" is derived from the old English "nonna", which was the
feminine form of "nonnus", a monk.

The word was originally a term of respect applied to elderly persons, and
therefore means something like "nother" or "father", and is thus similar to
the Russian "starets" or the Greek "geron" (or "gerondissa").




--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
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Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com

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-- Jean-Paul Sartre

Dixe Hollins

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Jan 7, 2012, 6:03:33 AM1/7/12
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Steve, do you have running water? Dixie.

Claire

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Jan 7, 2012, 6:31:25 AM1/7/12
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On Jan 7, 2:47 am, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> NUN - A member of a religious order or congregation of women living under the
> vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. In RC Canon Law only those living
> under 'solemn vows' are accounted Nuns (moniales) in the technical sense,
> those living under 'simple vows' properly being called sisters (sorores). The
> Carthusians require complete bodily integrity, but other orders receive widows
> and penitents by dispensation (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church).
>
> The English word "nun" is derived from the old English "nonna", which was the
> feminine form of "nonnus", a monk.
>
> The word was originally a term of respect applied to elderly persons, and
> therefore means something like "nother" or "father", and is thus similar to
> the Russian "starets" or the Greek "geron" (or "gerondissa").


I can see the attraction of being a nun. It must be nice for the
single women who do not intend to marry to live communally as sisters
in Christ.

� R. L. Measures.

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Jan 7, 2012, 7:32:15 AM1/7/12
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In article
<fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Claire
<claireo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 7, 2:47=A0am, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> NUN - A member of a religious order or congregation of women living under=
> the
>> vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. In RC Canon Law only those livin=
>g
>> under 'solemn vows' are accounted Nuns (moniales) in the technical sense,
>> those living under 'simple vows' properly being called sisters (sorores).=
> The
>> Carthusians require complete bodily integrity, but other orders receive w=
>idows
>> and penitents by dispensation (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Chu=
>rch).
>>
>> The English word "nun" is derived from the old English "nonna", which was=
> the
>> feminine form of "nonnus", a monk.
>>
>> The word was originally a term of respect applied to elderly persons, and
>> therefore means something like "nother" or "father", and is thus similar =
>to
>> the Russian "starets" or the Greek "geron" (or "gerondissa").
>
>
>I can see the attraction of being a nun. It must be nice for the
>single women who do not intend to marry to live communally as sisters
>in Christ.

�� a dormitory filled with women is a magnet for homosexual and bisexual women.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

duke

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Jan 7, 2012, 7:38:44 AM1/7/12
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Haahaahaa. I knew it was coming.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****

Claire

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Jan 7, 2012, 8:23:05 AM1/7/12
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On Jan 7, 12:32 pm, r...@somis.org ( R. L. Measures.) wrote:
> In article
> <fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118-b592-a93a5d315...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Claire
Do they sleep in dorms, I thought they had “cells”? Interesting issue
though. As believers we all must recognise our temptations and choose
not to put them in our path. When we do so we are wilfully sinning,
and I am fairly sure we are all guilty of having done that at times. I
know I have which I am attempting to deal with. I was listening to a
good anecdote from a Christian speaker called Adrian Plass here in the
UK (no, not about homosexual nuns!). He told the story of a Christian
couple he knows. The husband is a very laid back guy and the wife
commutes to work. One day a good looking man gets on the train and the
wife notices him and thinks “Oh, he’s rather nice”. It turns out that
they both become regulars on the same train and she often sees him.
Then one day he sits beside her and they get chatting. This then
becomes a regular thing and she looks forward to their chats. Soon she
starts to feel very guilty because she finds herself falling for this
man. She is conflicted because she loves her husband. As her husband
is also her best friend she decides she can trust him to tell how she
feels about this other man and seek his advise. Amazingly he does not
hit the roof when she tells him and asks what she should do. He gets
up, walks over to her calmly and puts his arms around her. Then he
just says two words “change trains”. As you imply somebody struggling
with inappropriate feelings towards other women would not be best
placed there for the same reason I should never work in a cake
factory! :-)

Claire

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Jan 7, 2012, 8:29:31 AM1/7/12
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On Jan 7, 12:38 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:32:15 -0800, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
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> >In article
> ><fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118-b592-a93a5d315...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Claire
Yep, talking of naughty nuns ...,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh-w8VUolqo

duke

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Jan 7, 2012, 9:35:19 AM1/7/12
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 05:29:31 -0800 (PST), Claire <claireo...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
"Sexual naughty" is rl's middle name. It's about all he talks about.

pyotr filipivich

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Dixe Hollins <mikea...@yahoo.com> on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:03:33 -0800
(PST) typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>Steve, do you have running water? Dixie.

Dixie - do you have a useful contribution to make?
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2) It's not you.
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Paul Duca

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Jan 7, 2012, 1:22:53 PM1/7/12
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I remember a bit from a comic who talked about his youth in parochial
school...two types of teachers
"Nuns...because that's what they get, and the civilian ones, they call
'lay" teachers....because they can".


Paul

Paul Duca

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On Jan 7, 9:35 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 05:29:31 -0800 (PST), Claire <claireonuse...@googlemail.com>
> "Sexual naughty" is what I am frantically trying to get...my GOP friends promised it to me.

Paul Duca

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On Jan 7, 7:38 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:32:15 -0800, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article
> ><fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118-b592-a93a5d315...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Claire
> ><claireonuse...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Jan 7, 2:47=A0am, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >>> NUN - A member of a religious order or congregation of women living under=
> >> the
> >>> vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. In RC Canon Law only those livin=
> >>g
> >>> under 'solemn vows' are accounted Nuns (moniales) in the technical sense,
> >>> those living under 'simple vows' properly being called sisters (sorores).=
> >> The
> >>> Carthusians require complete bodily integrity, but other orders receive w=
> >>idows
> >>> and penitents by dispensation (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Chu=
> >>rch).
>
> >>> The English word "nun" is derived from the old English "nonna", which was=
> >> the
> >>> feminine form of "nonnus", a monk.
>
> >>> The word was originally a term of respect applied to elderly persons, and
> >>> therefore means something like "nother" or "father", and is thus similar =
> >>to
> >>> the Russian "starets" or the Greek "geron" (or "gerondissa").
>
> >>I can see the attraction of being a nun. It must be nice for the
> >>single women who do not intend to marry to live communally as sisters
> >>in Christ.
>
> >€€  a dormitory filled with women is a magnet for homosexual and bisexual women.
>
> I knew it was coming. But it never comes for me from the lay women....

Steve Hayes

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Jan 7, 2012, 2:22:38 PM1/7/12
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That is perhaps part of it, but there is also the other side of the story --
people living in communities with very little contact with anyone outside
their community can get involved in quarrels over the most petty things. As
one monk once said to me, more people go to hell from monasteries than from
anywhere else. So without a real desire to love and worship God, it is very
difficult to make a go of it.

There are also interesting and sometimes surprising things. An Anglican
nunnery that started in Zululand witrh 3 sisters in 1968 had 490 sisters in 4
houses ten years later. That was surprising because in Zulu culture the father
expects to get a dowry for daughters -- sons are much less valuable. So Zulu
girls who are attracted to a celibate life of service to God get a lot of flak
from their families. Nevertheless, it grew rapidly.

Steve Hayes

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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:26:14 -0800, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>Dixe Hollins <mikea...@yahoo.com> on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:03:33 -0800
>(PST) typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>Steve, do you have running water? Dixie.
>
> Dixie - do you have a useful contribution to make?

Possibly attention deficit disorder -- loses the plot between reading the
subject line and writing in the body of the message.

Dixe Hollins

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Jan 7, 2012, 3:18:52 PM1/7/12
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No Steve I want to know if you have running water.Dixie.

• R. L. Measures.

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Jan 7, 2012, 7:09:27 PM1/7/12
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In article <v5fgg7lhdnq821kgf...@4ax.com>, duke
€€ My sister was a noviate in the Sisters of Saint Joseph. She told me
that things got busy after lights out.
>duke, American - American
>
>*****
>1 John 3:4-6
>4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
>sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
>appeared so that he might take away our sins.
>And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
>him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
>sin has either seen him or known him.
>*****

• R. L. Measures.

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Jan 7, 2012, 7:12:24 PM1/7/12
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In article
<742fb928-d449-4ab7...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
Claire <claireo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 7, 12:32=A0pm, r...@somis.org ( R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>> In article
>> <fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118-b592-a93a5d315...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Clair=
>e
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <claireonuse...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 7, 2:47=3DA0am, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> >> NUN - A member of a religious order or congregation of women living un=
>der=3D
>> > the
>> >> vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. In RC Canon Law only those li=
>vin=3D
>> >g
>> >> under 'solemn vows' are accounted Nuns (moniales) in the technical sen=
>se,
>> >> those living under 'simple vows' properly being called sisters (sorore=
>s).=3D
>> > The
>> >> Carthusians require complete bodily integrity, but other orders receiv=
>e w=3D
>> >idows
>> >> and penitents by dispensation (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian =
>Chu=3D
>> >rch).
>>
>> >> The English word "nun" is derived from the old English "nonna", which =
>was=3D
>> > the
>> >> feminine form of "nonnus", a monk.
>>
>> >> The word was originally a term of respect applied to elderly persons, =
>and
>> >> therefore means something like "nother" or "father", and is thus simil=
>ar =3D
>> >to
>> >> the Russian "starets" or the Greek "geron" (or "gerondissa").
>>
>> >I can see the attraction of being a nun. It must be nice for the
>> >single women who do not intend to marry to live communally as sisters
>> >in Christ.
>>
>> =A0a dormitory filled with women is a magnet for homosexual and bisexual =
>women.
>>
>> --
>> Richard L. Measures. AG6K, =A0805-386-3734,www.somis.org
>
>Do they sleep in dorms,

АА my sister was in a dorm.

?I thought they had =93cells=94? Interesting issue
>though. As believers we all must recognise our temptations and choose
>not to put them in our path. When we do so we are wilfully sinning,
>and I am fairly sure we are all guilty of having done that at times. I
>know I have which I am attempting to deal with. I was listening to a
>good anecdote from a Christian speaker called Adrian Plass here in the
>UK (no, not about homosexual nuns!). He told the story of a Christian
>couple he knows. The husband is a very laid back guy and the wife
>commutes to work. One day a good looking man gets on the train and the
>wife notices him and thinks =93Oh, he=92s rather nice=94. It turns out that
>they both become regulars on the same train and she often sees him.
>Then one day he sits beside her and they get chatting. This then
>becomes a regular thing and she looks forward to their chats. Soon she
>starts to feel very guilty because she finds herself falling for this
>man. She is conflicted because she loves her husband. As her husband
>is also her best friend she decides she can trust him to tell how she
>feels about this other man and seek his advise. Amazingly he does not
>hit the roof when she tells him and asks what she should do. He gets
>up, walks over to her calmly and puts his arms around her. Then he
>just says two words =93change trains=94. As you imply somebody struggling
>with inappropriate feelings towards other women would not be best
>placed there for the same reason I should never work in a cake
>factory! :-)

АА chortle

duke

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Jan 8, 2012, 7:37:38 AM1/8/12
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:56:09 -0800, Peter B <e...@dow.org> wrote:
>Some call themselves George, Mike, David. I guess Earls been in their
>nunneries to.

SWOOOOSH. Wow, that one flew like a cookoo right over his nest.

duke

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Jan 8, 2012, 7:38:52 AM1/8/12
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Doing a lot of praying.

Steve Hayes

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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:18:52 -0800 (PST), Dixe Hollins <mikea...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>No Steve I want to know if you have running water.Dixie.

Manchester United knocked Manchester City out of the FA Cup.


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Terms and conditions apply.

Steve Hayes
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Claire

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Jan 8, 2012, 12:39:28 PM1/8/12
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On Jan 8, 12:12 am, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
> In article
> <742fb928-d449-4ab7-a651-39eb27d17...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
> €€  my sister was in a dorm.

Thanks for clarifying

• R. L. Measures.

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Jan 8, 2012, 2:52:57 PM1/8/12
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In article <0h3jg7l86h8j2tcks...@4ax.com>, duke
• Dildoing and licking the lotus.

• R. L. Measures.

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Jan 8, 2012, 2:54:20 PM1/8/12
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In article
<fd9156a1-44a7-4ed6...@h12g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
Claire <claireo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 12:12=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>> In article
>> <742fb928-d449-4ab7-a651-39eb27d17...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Claire <claireonuse...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 7, 12:32=3DA0pm, r...@somis.org ( =A0R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>> >> In article
>> >> <fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118-b592-a93a5d315...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Cl=
>air=3D
>> >e
>>
>> >> <claireonuse...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Jan 7, 2:47=3D3DA0am, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> >> >> NUN - A member of a religious order or congregation of women living=
> un=3D
>> >der=3D3D
>> >> > the
>> >> >> vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. In RC Canon Law only those=
> li=3D
>> >vin=3D3D
>> >> >g
>> >> >> under 'solemn vows' are accounted Nuns (moniales) in the technical =
>sen=3D
>> >se,
>> >> >> those living under 'simple vows' properly being called sisters (sor=
>ore=3D
>> >s).=3D3D
>> >> > The
>> >> >> Carthusians require complete bodily integrity, but other orders rec=
>eiv=3D
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>> >> >idows
>> >> >> and penitents by dispensation (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christi=
>an =3D
>> >Chu=3D3D
>> >> >rch).
>>
>> >> >> The English word "nun" is derived from the old English "nonna", whi=
>ch =3D
>> >was=3D3D
>> >> > the
>> >> >> feminine form of "nonnus", a monk.
>>
>> >> >> The word was originally a term of respect applied to elderly person=
>s, =3D
>> >and
>> >> >> therefore means something like "nother" or "father", and is thus si=
>mil=3D
>> >ar =3D3D
>> >> >to
>> >> >> the Russian "starets" or the Greek "geron" (or "gerondissa").
>>
>> >> >I can see the attraction of being a nun. It must be nice for the
>> >> >single women who do not intend to marry to live communally as sisters
>> >> >in Christ.
>>
>> >> =3DA0a dormitory filled with women is a magnet for homosexual and bise=
>xual =3D
>> >women.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Richard L. Measures. AG6K, =3DA0805-386-3734,www.somis.org
>>
>> >Do they sleep in dorms,
>>
>> =80=80 =A0my sister was in a dorm.
>
>Thanks for clarifying.

• ur welcome

--
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pyotr filipivich

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Jan 8, 2012, 8:01:33 PM1/8/12
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Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net> on Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:30:56 +0200
typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:26:14 -0800, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Dixe Hollins <mikea...@yahoo.com> on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:03:33 -0800
>>(PST) typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>Steve, do you have running water? Dixie.
>>
>> Dixie - do you have a useful contribution to make?
>
>Possibly attention deficit disorder -- loses the plot between reading the
>subject line and writing in the body of the message.

I know people with ADD and Dixie doesn't seem at all like them -
oh look, a pop-up ad!
--
pyotr filipivich
Never pass up a change to kiss a Beeping Sleauty.
Especially if you are a Hung and Pransome Yince.

Paul Duca

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On Jan 8, 7:38 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:09:27 -0800, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article <v5fgg7lhdnq821kgf4obdm7j2ru82ef...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:32:15 -0800, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>>In article
> >>><fbac2bd2-d6fc-4118-b592-a93a5d315...@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, Claire
> Doing a lot of praying for man meat or at least some rug to munch.

Steve Hayes

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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:01:33 -0800, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net> on Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:30:56 +0200
>typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:26:14 -0800, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Dixe Hollins <mikea...@yahoo.com> on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:03:33 -0800
>>>(PST) typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>>Steve, do you have running water? Dixie.
>>>
>>> Dixie - do you have a useful contribution to make?
>>
>>Possibly attention deficit disorder -- loses the plot between reading the
>>subject line and writing in the body of the message.
>
> I know people with ADD and Dixie doesn't seem at all like them -
>oh look, a pop-up ad!

Well, just a master of the non-sequitur then.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

duke

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She got kicked out?

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• for not participating in the above with one of the higher up lesbians.

duke

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Interesting. But we'll never know.

• R. L. Measures.

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In article <7drmg71hnt8sqfdg8...@4ax.com>, duke
• nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors in the convent.

duke

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Now that's one of your sister's stories I'll believe.

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In article <oh1rg71b2ve06kiiq...@4ax.com>, duke
• Convents and rectories, safe homes and secure jobs for non-heterosexuals.
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